Hi I recently got a second hand Mate 7 32GB (TL10) running on marshmallow (build 561). Love the phone and all but noticing that the fingerprint sensor is very spotty.
When fhe phone has been idling for a bit, a tap of a registered finger only wakes the phone maybe half the time, and the other half of the time the phone doesn't even seem to realize that a finger has been placed there.
I have tried reregistering my fingerprints but I notice that sometimes I will get repeated notifications to keep my finger still despite not having moved my finger. I've also cleaned the sensor but to no avail.. Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be wrong or what fixes there may be?
Much appreciated!
update 2 : i posted a video on youtube for the lowered sensitivity of pocophone f1 8.11.29 and compared it to note 9 touch to settle the debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cALkjau09xs
update : about the touch there seem to be a debate whether it is improved or not .. i just did a reset and discovered that by default the google keyboard has no borders and full gesture is not enabled .. so if you set the theme of the gboard to enable key borders and enabled full screen gesture you will definitely feel the lower edge space bar problems and that allover sensitivity is lowered
thought to write my initial impressions about 8.11.29 open beta software .. it was released couple of hours ago and i updated from 8.11.15 with ota and no reset done
hdr still works in youtube
youtube full screen support is there
hevc 4k60 10 bit files now works flawlessly on mi video app
camera noise during low light conditions improved but on the expense of details as there is some kind of photo softness introduced
there is a small bug too which is still there google keyboard key-presses sound is mute every restart and you have to turn it off and on again to enable
PUBG touch is fixed
my analysis for the touch :
1st they reduced touch sensitivity a bit and i think this was done as some people complained from over-sensitivity with cables touching screen and stuff .. the problem i see this is normal and it didn't deserve to lower sensitivity for as this is how touch works .. the flow of electric charge from your hand pass through the cable and reach the screen
2nd ghost multitouch issue is there but i only tested with multitouch tester and i didnt notice it while working on the mobile
3rd now if i put the mobile on the chair hand and do not catch it with my hand 95% of touches are not registered which proves they lowered sensitivity ( the percentage may differ with mobile position grounding and battery level and charging or not )
4th the edges touch is less sensitive specially the lower part and space bar in addition to their lag so the keyboard is not usable now and will give you lots of space bar mistakes .. i think this is because of the lowered sensitivity all over the screen in addition to crippled edges touch from the start (using full screen gestures)
5th this is complicated it is how the PUBG was fixed : there was a user here on xda and miui that complained of particular touch issue were small turns were laggy and not registered .. this was completely fixed and PUBG plays excellent now
so to sum this up apparently edges have some sort of hardware problem and it will not be better than 8.11.15 so they should return sensitivity to 8.11.15 level so keyboard is usable again and keep the PUBG fix .. i think this will be the best partial fix for touch issues .. as by now i am convinced that they dont have a 100 % fix .. i was surprised they even fixed PUBG but who knows .. so now keyboard is in an unusable state if you turn on fullscreen gestures and cancelled the homescreen buttons .. so temporarily solutions till fix #1 you need to turn on the home buttons bar and wait for a fix or #2 disable keyboard borders in gboard theme and enable fullscreen gestures
i will add edit this post later and add rest of my impressions to this post as i test the phone
please share yours .. also do you see that i need to reset the phone before assessing the update ?!
Touch issue is still present, but different.
It is less than before, however now I notice it mostly on the spacebar. (In fullscreen mode)
While typing, it sometimes doesn't register me pressing the spacebar entirely. Does someone has the the same feeling about this?
knallex said:
Touch issue is still present, but different.
It is less than before, however now I notice it mostly on the spacebar. (In fullscreen mode)
While typing, it sometimes doesn't register me pressing the spacebar entirely. Does someone has the the same feeling about this?
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yes i was testing the touch this last hour and i agree with you about the space bar and i will tell you my anaylsis
but as a starter and to cheer people up PUBG turn touch lag is fixed and now small turns are registered without a lag
so again PUBG touch fixed
my analysis for the touch :
1st they reduced touch sensitivity a bit and i think this was done as some people complained from over-sensitivity with cables touching screen and stuff .. the problem i see this is normal and it didn't deserve to lower sensitivity for as this is how touch works .. the flow of electrons from your hand pass through the cable and reach the screen
2nd ghost multitouch issue is there but i only tested with multitouch tester and i didnt notice it while working on the mobile
3rd now if i put the mobile on the chair hand and do not catch it with my hand 95% of touches are not registered which proves they lowered sensitivity ( the percentage my differ with mobile position grounding and battery level and charging or not )
4th the edges touch is less sensitive specially the lower part and space bar in addition to their lag so the total experience here with keyboard is not good and will give you lots of space bar mistakes .. i think this is because of the lowered sensitivity all over the screen in addition to crippled edges touch from the start
5th this is comlpicated it is how the PUBG was fixed : there was a user here on xda and miui that complained of particular touch issue were small turns were laggy and not registered .. this was completely fixed and PUBG plays excellent now
so to sum this up apparently edges have some sort of hardware problem and it will not be better than 8.11.15 so they should return sensitivity to 8.11.15 level and keep the PUBG fix .. i think this will be the best partial fix for touch issues .. as by now i am convinced that they dont have a 100 % fix .. i was surprised they even fixed PUBG but who knows
Agreed, however the screen now flickers a lot and the user experience is very poor due to this.
I never had any touch issues and even now it's fine.
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Agreed, however the screen now flickers a lot and the user experience is very poor due to this.
I never had any touch issues and even now it's fine.
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what do you mean by flickering rajeev ?! i didnt notice any flickering while using the mobile and playing videos or games .. the only flicker i saw is in camera in certain modes while recording video and i think this can be easily fixed by xiaomi team i think
So, after this final update the touchscreen works awful.
I mean, I never had screen bleeding or touch issues with this phone, but this last update really killed it. I have to often press twice on something to open it. Looks like it does not have the same sensitivity like before.
Very anoying.
Al3xxxinho said:
So, after this final update the touchscreen works awful.
I mean, I never had screen bleeding or touch issues with this phone, but this last update really killed it. I have to often press twice on something to open it. Looks like it does not have the same sensitivity like before.
Very anoying.
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i dont know why they lowered the sensitivity ??!! i have been investigating till i found a couple of posts complaining from over-sensitivity but apparently they were talking with some one important .. of course any mobile screen will be touch sensitive to cables thats no brainer hhhhhh
https://en.miui.com/thread-4141753-2-1.html
Well, it seems to be f*cked up to the point i have to press very hard on the screen to register touches. Yesterday everything was smooth and perfect, and now ... I'm thinking of selling this and buy myself a real phone ...
Al3xxxinho said:
Well, it seems to be f*cked up to the point i have to press very hard on the screen to register touches. Yesterday everything was smooth and perfect, and now ... I'm thinking of selling this and buy myself a real phone ...
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i know what you mean but since rest of features such as hdr works flawless for me now i can endure a couple of weeks for a better fix .. but eventually i will sell it too when i found an appropriate one .. pocophone sold out from egypt so i will have no problem selling it under warranty anytime .. i will stick for a couple of months
For me stable 10.0.6.0 is the best. I hope MIUI team will release a good stable based on android 9
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what do you mean by flickering rajeev ?! i didnt notice any flickering while using the mobile and playing videos or games .. the only flicker i saw is in camera in certain modes while recording video and i think this can be easily fixed by xiaomi team i think
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Flicker is very visible on the lock screen. Touch sensitivity has gone down as well
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Flicker is very visible on the lock screen. Touch sensitivity has gone down as well
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no it is not present on mine .. my friends call me pixel peeper .. did you try to reset yours .. anyway i will use a camera to spot any flicker out of the normal and infrom you if present .. only flicker noticed in camera video rear and front
update : i just took a photo of my mobile screen with shutter speed at 1/30 and there is no flicker .. but i saw couple of posts complaining of your problem .. how did you update to 8.11.29
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no it is not present on mine .. my friends call me pixel peeper .. did you try to reset yours .. anyway i will use a camera to spot any flicker out of the normal and infrom you if present .. only flicker noticed in camera video rear and front
update : i just took a photo of my mobile screen with shutter speed at 1/30 and there is no flicker .. but i saw couple of posts complaining of your problem .. how did you update to 8.11.29
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Try to record on low brightness, it's using PWM backlight at low level.
But I thought everyone known this already?
mustafa811 said:
the flow of electrons from your hand pass through the cable and reach the screen
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Wait, what? xD
The wiring of cables are always covered with an insulator which restricts the flow of electrons on the outer surface, so it's definitely the over-sensitivity which is the devil here.
This issue is not present in custom ROMs as the devs have managed to implement the fix from 8.11.15 and 8.11.23.
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Wait, what? xD
The wiring of cables are always covered with an insulator which restricts the flow of electrons on the outer surface, so it's definitely the over-sensitivity which is the devil here.
This issue is not present in custom ROMs as the devs have managed to implement the fix from 8.11.15 and 8.11.23.
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i changed electrons to electric charge to be precise .. also i have acer iconia w700 tablet that register touches from cables .. also my note 5 do this .. there is nothing called over-sensitivity except when it affects things or cause a malfunction .. if over-sensitivity was present i never felt a malfunction from it and pubg game touch issues was not related to over-sensitivity at all and there was a complete topic here taking about this specific poblem
on the other side almost all ppl complain from touch problems and screen edges that do not register touches as center .. so you take a decision to lower sensitivity ????!!!!! thats weird and i cannot comprehend till now
do you know that if i used the side of my finger vs the tip touch differs .. so there is difference between ppl and you cannot go lower sensitivity on a phone ppl complaining about its touch issues
also dont forget the screen protector that has its toll on touch sensitivity .. all these factors must be considered
their only excuse that this is a beta
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i changed electrons to electric charge to be precise .. also i have acer iconia w700 tablet that register touches from cables .. also my note 5 do this .. there is nothing called over-sensitivity except when it affects things or cause a malfunction .. if over-sensitivity was present i never felt a malfunction from it and pubg game touch issues was not related to over-sensitivity at all and there was a complete topic here taking about this specific poblem
on the other side almost all ppl complain from touch problems and screen edges that do not register touches as center .. so you take a decision to lower sensitivity ????!!!!! thats weird and i cannot comprehend till now
do you know that if i used the side of my finger vs the tip touch differs .. so there is difference between ppl and you cannot go lower sensitivity on a phone ppl complaining about its touch issues
also dont forget the screen protector that has its toll on touch sensitivity .. all these factors must be considered
their only excuse that this is a beta
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Ahhhhh! I get it now!
But my verdict is that Xiaomi released this phone with just pure excitement and nothing else. They did not optimize the phone for users' convenience. This is a beta phone and they'll PROBABLY hit the right note with the successor of this phone. And worst part, we've surrendered ourselves as 'testers' for this phone. :/
Al3xxxinho said:
So, after this final update the touchscreen works awful.
I mean, I never had screen bleeding or touch issues with this phone, but this last update really killed it. I have to often press twice on something to open it. Looks like it does not have the same sensitivity like before.
Very anoying.
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Exactly. I too never had touch issues before this update.
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I had done the multi touch test when I bought this smartphone and it registered all the 10 touches easily in the first go. Now, after this update it won't even register 5 touches without trying repeatedly.
I also noticed unresponsive touch problem with .23 and .29 beta updates. I didn't have this touch problem with .15 beta and below. Also, the lock screen flickers on .29. Most probably due to auto brightness I think. While using facelock, the screen brightness changes like crazy. Tried .29 with global beta, EU rom and globe rom, and with franko kernel. The screen flickers like super fast brightness change from low to high to low continuously with all.
Reverted back to .15 now, and touch is good now. And also no screen flickering.
petraru1 said:
For me stable 10.0.6.0 is the best. I hope MIUI team will release a good stable based on android 9
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Same here, work flow less on oreo based miui 10.0.6.0
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no it is not present on mine .. my friends call me pixel peeper .. did you try to reset yours .. anyway i will use a camera to spot any flicker out of the normal and infrom you if present .. only flicker noticed in camera video rear and front
update : i just took a photo of my mobile screen with shutter speed at 1/30 and there is no flicker .. but i saw couple of posts complaining of your problem .. how did you update to 8.11.29
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I installed the full rom- 1.7gb and the flicker is gone from lockscreen.
Hi all, I have been using a OnePlus 7 Pro since June and it's been going great for me.
However, recently I've noticed that if I press a bit harder (almost like a force touch) on the top middle-ish part of the display, I can hear a distinctive creaking, almost popping noise from the phone? This sound doesn't come from pressing harder on any other part of the display, just that middle area. It doesn't appear to be causing any problems so far, but I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this with their device? Haven't found anything on the internet just yet...I'm worried that it'll become an actual problem later on.
I'm on stock OOS Android 10 Beta 4, but I don't believe this is a software issue (hopefully it's not). Side note though, I do notice that my device still suffers from ghost touches and is parts of the display are nonresponsive occasionally.
Thanks for the help!
I have the same popping on the upper middle of the phone ever since I got the phone in May. But, as you say, not causing any issues....yet. don't have ghost touches and non-responsiveness. I'm on Pie still.
Skenderbeggar said:
I have the same popping on the upper middle of the phone ever since I got the phone in May. But, as you say, not causing any issues....yet. don't have ghost touches and non-responsiveness. I'm on Pie still.
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Very weird...I wonder if this is a common issue or not; doesn't seem like it. I thought upgrading to Android 10 would fix the ghost touches (pretty sure I read something related to that somewhere before) but I guess not; almost seems like it added more ghost touches than before lol
mine is fine
I've been using this phone since it came out and I have nothing close to what you describe my screen is completely fine.
My OP9 is perfect apart from 1 thing. When scrolling, I keep my finger on the screen when I stop. When I resume scrolling after a second of the finger being still, there is a slight delay in responsiveness of the screen which resolves within a second. The bug does not occur in any other scenario.
I've figured out what the issue is using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rt.touchmultitest
The touch sampling rate drops to around 50Hz when the finger is stationary on the screen, and doesn't reset to 240Hz fast enough when you start moving again...
Can anyone please test it to confirm?
TLDR: Touch sampling rate idles when finger doesn't move/moves a little.
Ive noticed issues but it was resolved when i removed the OEM screen protector that's preinstalled on the phone.
I also had to get a new OP9 (unrelated to removing said OEM screen protector) and I am now just dealing with the responsiveness issues until it starts losing its flush application to the screen and starts peeling.
Just a guess but people not realizing its there or just forgetting due to it being so easy to forget is a major reason they report touch responsiveness issues (happen to me when I first got the OP9 AND 6)
Maybe thats it?
applyscience said:
Ive noticed issues but it was resolved when i removed the OEM screen protector that's preinstalled on the phone.
I also had to get a new OP9 (unrelated to removing said OEM screen protector) and I am now just dealing with the responsiveness issues until it starts losing its flush application to the screen and starts peeling.
Just a guess but people not realizing its there or just forgetting due to it being so easy to forget is a major reason they report touch responsiveness issues (happen to me when I first got the OP9 AND 6)
Maybe thats it?
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It could be the screen protector, although I doubt it... It seems to occur in a very specific situation, almost like it's there intentionally.
Could you please replicate these steps:
1. Scroll on a website/text
2. Stop scrolling and keep your finger on the screen (important)
3. After a second of the finger being still, resume scrolling with a fast gesture (without moving the finger off the screen) and see if the screen follows with appropriate speed.
In my case, there is a noticable delay at first but it resolves after moving the finger for a while.
Can anyone please check if their phone behaves like this? Thanks a lot!
I have the exact same issue.
i have the same issue too
Nope , tried recreating, no issue here .
p.s. not using seen protectors .
Hey OP. I am on the Paranoid Android Alpha ROM and believe this will correct your issue. Its touch responsiveness feels completely different from stock for me and no longer have any issues.
If you are comfortable with any of that, maybe give it a try.
Miha512 said:
Can anyone please check if their phone behaves like this? Thanks a lot!
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i cant find the article, but its a bug that was introduced by google even to the pixel lineup in android last year or year before. The same thing happens on the One Plus Nord N200. Its annoying. I beleive google fixed it but doesnt seem like one plus has fixed it or carried the fix from the google tree. In android 11 google also introduced touch sensitivity but seems like one plus removed it in their final release ROM/FIRMWARE https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-new-increased-touch-sensitivity-option-android-11/
Anyone here getting ghost touch issue and sometimes proximity sensor issue too?
I tried with different firmware as well as stock miui and custom...
Upto 12.0.7 I didn't face that issue ..
After 12.0.8... I think my phone evolved into android robot
Oh man, it is automatically working
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Anyone here getting ghost touch issue and sometimes proximity sensor issue too?
I tried with different firmware as well as stock miui and custom...
Upto 12.0.7 I didn't face that issue ..
After 12.0.8... I think my phone evolved into android robot
Oh man, it is automatically working
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I didn't have that problem.
btw you posted in the wrong place.
Huh?
Posted in X3 thread only!
I have faced that issue too, but my phone has been dropped already and has a broken screen in the bottom. I guess this could be the reason my scenario.
Not a single damage on display.
now trying with latest firmware with custom rom and up to this time I didn't face it..
proximity working well
I have also ghost issue for months. It start after 5 or 6 months. I saw a lot of threads on reddit, and some here for other POCO or X3 Pro.
My issue is that sometime, 1 or 2 times a day, the screen goes crazy. Touch appears on all the screen and the only solution is to lock and unlock the screen.
I tried to disable 3 touchs option, stays à 90Hhz, update rom... I even tried to RMA but my local official xiaomi affiliated can't reproduce the issue.
At last I tried to install ArrowOs but crazy ghost touch reappears after 2 days. Do you think we can find some kernel or "touch driver" that can help ? What for an "indonesian" rom ?
It's a Hardware Problem.
I'm still looking for a way to mitigate this issue.
I just have to shut down the screen and then it's ok. It could be a software solution to reset some memory or electric level somewhere.
I saw tens of reporting, it look like a common issue on POCO device
Try and install: Touch Improvement magisk module of Akira
I think it need time for it to work right (somehow), but I don't have any issues anymore, while my phone was flipping like...
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