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Hello everyone!
First of all sorry for my bad English. I represent smartphones distributor from Kiev, Ukraine. We have contacted with GooApple sales director and have got GooApple V5 sample phone for tests before bulk orders.
All I can say: it's just not ready for international market at the moment and unfortunately they are not very much interested in positive firmware or hardware changes.
They have made firmware ios_11.12.08 for our last recall but non of our issues have been resolved + one added: it doesn't react on first home button push after lock screen, it only shows unlock screen after the second home button push or fast twice push.
Here is our issues list:
Phone's battery draining, runs out too fast!!! After full charge it runs out 75% battery life for 4 hours of usage: 1 call during 5 min., video watch during 8 min., music during 6 min, looking thought photos during 5 min., taking 3 pictures with the camera. 1,5 hour is just for walkthrough over the interface, settings, lock/unlock. 3,5 min. video takes about 5-6% of battery life. And it's without any gaming, internet surfing, making videos. Other time it's just holding.
Screen has some lightness flickering. Backlight blinking, flashing a little bit from the sides and left top corner.
Connect button (in putting Wi-Fi password mode) doesn't work. Just can't connect to any locked Wi-Fi network.
Bad Wi-Fi catch signal even with a close to phone router.
Doesn't remember icons location on springboard bar after moving around and reboot the phone.
Showing the last called phone number in background when sending USSD commands (checking balance or any anything else).
The input keyboard should be the same as iOS with working English and Russian (now it doesn't work) and customization ability in the General folder in Settings.
Booting animation should be the same as iOS with Apple logo only.
Creating folders (put in and put out icons) and moving icons around doesn't work properly.
The font in Calendar, Time, Dial is not the same as iOS.
The sim card pin code enter should be the same as iOS.
How to delete apps like Call Log, PowerOff... chinese QQ and others?
Reminders, Maps, Weather Stocks iReader apps should be in English.
Browser app should be renamed to Safari.
Gallery app should be renamed to Photos.
Phone key at dialpad should be renamed to Keypad.
Must speed up fake iOS usage response, performance.
Must speed up screen rotation/orientation response.
Must replace red ! (exclamation) to the Sending progress bar when sending messages/SMS.
Must replace chinese word to english word Call at the dial pad.
Make possibility of adding your own ringtones in the Settings.
Make double tap or pres hold the home button for multitask, running apps view like on iOS with appear at the bottom of the screen.
Make possibility of completely close/kill apps taking up memory and running in the background.
Make dialing numbers sound quieter (it's set to max by default).
Make lock/unlock sound quieter (it's set to max by default but should be possible to customize).
Make full-screen camera mode when taking photos.
Correct + - add sound mode when playing video, music (quiet sound from 2 to 6 bars and after 6 bars it's big increase in sound).
Remake Videos app (it should redirect/open phone's gallery instead of SDcard content).
Remake YouTube app (it should be in English or redirect/open youtube.com).
WLAN folder in Settings should be renamed to Wi-Fi.
Phone warms up when gaming, talking, videos.
It doesn't recognize sim card enter when ON.
Word Wednesday comes out of the Calendar app icon.
Power On/Off button dangles, swing around with sound.
Upper background part can be seen when charging.
While start pinching any picture from the center it zooms in with imprecision to the side of the picture.
Battery life doesn't shows properly on lock screen (it shows all empty when screen corner shows less of 20% battery life).
It Reboots by itself few times during the day when locking the screen.
If you know any other issues please add them by numbers 39, 40....
Or if you have solutions for any of the issues please also add it by the 1-38 numbers.
I hope we can make it better together!
Possible Solutions to Gooapple V5 issues.
Generally speaking, I don't think that all these reasons are real for every V5 phone around. Did you wipe out every data BEFORE flashing the new rom? If not, certain applications may have been running multiple times (i.e.: Maps in my case when I did that). I am using the android rom (not the iOS one) and I have not all these problems whatsoever.
Possible solutions:
1. Try and see if you have data enabled or GPS is on. This device has a hardcoded (R) Roaming on (i.e. you can't turn it off) plus it's not (yet) capable of 3G data. Turn both of them off while not needing them helps A LOT.
2. Not an issue here with newest android build; maybe your screen has issues. I've had some friends with original iPhones having the same flickering as yours. Turned out to be their retina display.
3. Not true. I'm connecting on both my wifi spots at home both Wep and WAP/PSK. Wifi is low powered though and need you to be NEAR the wifi router / spot (see below).
4. True! Just 5 meters away and a mid-wall makes the difference. They really need to boost their receiver.
5.Try reinstalling AFTER you've made a complete wipe data/factory reset. THEN install the rom. This might fix the issue.
6.I'd really like to see a list of USSD commands if you have one available for this phone... (pm me??? )
7.Same for Greek keyboard. I've overcame the problem by installing Greek Input Method from the market.
8.Heh. +1
9.It works for me for both android and iOS roms.
10,11.I agree.
12.You'll have to be 'root' to do so. The only way I've found to do so is the program superoneclick (google it). After rooting the V5, download from market 'Root Uninstaller'. Works perfectly even with the 'protected apps' like the one you mentioned. I know that you don't have 'market' on iOS rom so here's what I did:
I've had a factory reset first, then installed Android rom and THEN the iOS rom. I've also installed a program called 'Go Launcer EX'. This pops up when unlocking the device asking you what launcher you prefer, this way you have the best of both worlds.
13-16: Agree.
17 & 18: The problem is the retina display with the slow (relatively) 650MHz MTK6573 processor. The G3 (previous model) had a smaller screen that the cpu was able to handle. On android rom things are better though...
19 & 20: Agree.
21: On android you can do so by adding your custom ringtones on a folder called /alarms, /ringtones etc on your sd card. Should work for us too (didn't try it yet).
22. Agree.
23. I am using an app from market called: Advanced Task Manager does the trick.
24-31. Agree.
32. I didn't go that far!!! I guess you're right.
33 & 34. Yep.
35 & 36. I haven't got such a problem. Consider the retina screen of yours has a problem / issue?
37&38. Nope. Works alright here.
Finally another issue with no solution:
39. GPS lock. The GPS won't operate properly in EU (Greece) where I live. Takes forever to find satellites and it won't lock to a fix point even if you wait 10 mins. This is what I'm after right now and if I have a proper solution I'll post it here.
Thanks for putting up this thread Cyber_dude. If you need anything I'll be more than glad to help!
Thanks for your reply.
We have talked with GooApple for about a week now and sure I have made all needed such as wipe data before firmware update. That's because you are basically using Android ROM. Customers buying phones like this one because they just want iPhone for less and want everybody else think they got an iPhone. So using Android on any iPhone replica is just not right. It should run fake iOS and should be at least 60% of the original one. This phone costs $300 icnl. shipping at resellers (price of used iPhone 4 on eBay) and I think user interface should be well polished and flawless for that money.
Yes, Maps on last gooapple_ios_11.12.08 works in English now. But after resolving one problem they made two others, like it doesn't react on first home button push after lock screen, it only shows unlock screen after the second home button push or fast twice push.
1. That's not a solution! Sure I have turned everything like wi-fi, gps... off. But customers want it to be fully functional phone, without thinking: "ohh., have I turned my phone's wi-fi and gps off to kepp the battery alive?" It's shouldn't be like that!
They have you used so low capacity 1050mAh battery. (but we think it's even less). The original iPhone's has 1420mAh. And there are even 2200-2430mAh on the market today. They have changed screen, ram, cpu but keep the same battery. It's just stupid. And it's smaller then iPhone's battery so you just can't replace it. It works maximum up to 3 hours in active usage mode without gaming. (with full brightness on, because turning it less on this screen is just sacrilege).
That's they have answered about that: "when making a phone, we have to consider a lot of things, especially the cost, when everything is as great as iphone 4, the price will be too..."
2. Yes, it's old issue, it resolves after reinstall.
3. It's true. It works on you because your wep password is large then 8 characters. It doesn't work with less passwords like mac or iPhone.
5. Yes, new firmware resolved that.
6. I mean USSD commands for checking balance.
But here is a command to enter EngineerMode: *#67876#*
7. Stock keyboard is a crap. I use Smart Keyboard Pro.
8. I can change robot with apple booting animation but can't change gooapple name at the beginning. I think it's logo.img at the rom zip file. I have tried to delete it and make other changes to the rom but can't sign it. It's always shows sign error at the install.
9. It works but it works very-very badly. Then you are trying to move icon to other position it creates a folder with other icon, it's so annoying.
12. I have also made the root with the SuperOneClick. And delete Chinese apps with Root Explorer.
Thanks for Go Launcer EX advise. What else it can help us with?
17 & 18. They used MTK6513 it's cuted MTK6573 without 3G. It's not the best one anyway.
21. Yes, I also want to try to add custom ringtone to media directory folder.
23. Yes, I also use Advanced Task Killer Pro on gooapple_ios_11.11.30 but they have added double tap home button like iPhone to kill running apps on gooapple_ios_11.12.08
35 & 36. These issues are real and haven't resolved on new roms. That's not screen problem, I can make a screenshot if needed.
37. This one is also real. Can also make a screenshot.
38. Haven't seen this issue on gooapple_ios_11.11.30
39. Maybe you should try to test it in EngineerMode Have you tried to use any other GPS third-party application?
I didn't know about this issue because I haven't tried GPS, no need with this battery.
Do you know how to replace chinese word (Call) to english word Call at the dial pad? Because it's immediately catches the eye when using. I have decompiled the Phone.apk with APK Edit program but all image files are normal over where, chinese word is not an image file. I don't know how to change it.
Just lets keep this thread go by adding new issues and how to solutions.
Got my V5 about 2 weeks ago. Been playing with it for a while - tried both the newer roms and currently running the ios version that is made available about 10 days ago. Been working fine for me, except I may gps is very slow (can take up to 10 minutes for it to find me), and the built in FM Transmitter does not work. I also have various chinese apps which I was not able to delete. I will try the latest rom to see what improvemements it has.
Question, how did you root the phone? I downloaded superoneclick, but keep getting hung on the "waiting for device". I have usb debuggin on, and tried it both with "usb connect" on and off (the setting in the phone to establish a usb connection to a PC). Instead of using this "usb connect" feature, do I need to download some type of usb driver for this phone? If so, can you provide details? I've tried various usb drivers for MT6513 but nothing yet works - even tried something called PDANet which installed some type of software oin the phone and said it was connected, but still the superoneclick failed. Any ideas?
Oh, by the way I found a vending.apk that works on the ios rom. See link below
http://www.mediafire.com/?khpvzmzwwaqyxdm
Thanks
I have uploaded the drivers for GooApple V5, here is the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?h6hr1ckrf3sc7cj
How to root your GooApple V5:
Make sure you use Win XP.
Download drivers file from the link above and unzip it.
Phone Settings -> Applications -> Unknown sources, on
Phone Settings -> Applications -> Development -> USB debugging, on
Phone Settings -> Applications -> Development -> to keep awake, on
Phone Settings -> Applications -> Development -> Allow analog location, on
Connect the data cable, turn on USB storage in the phone.
In the Windows Device Manager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_Manager) find your phone, open properties and install or update the drivers from the unzipped folder.
Reboot your computer.
Now download the SuperOneClick from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 If you run XP, install .NET Framework v2.0 or above.
Shut down your antivirus/firewall.
Turn off USB storage in the phone. Make sure you do not mount the sd card.
Run the SuperOneClick BOOT process. If it's not success from the first time try it again.
After that install the Root Explorer to your phone, go system/app, push Mount R/W button and delete any app you want.
Thanks for the vending.apk, here are also some tips for it: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-new-android-market-2-2-6-on-your-device/
Cyber_Dude, thanks for the engineering mode code. You've done a nice job on the rooting info. Just for the story: I've done it on W7, 32bit and worked alright too. Newest superoneclick has the ability to forcibly ask for Admin privileges. Drivers have to be installed manually though.
I've found out into the Engineering menu that there's a CPU Frequency test that reports a high of 806MHz. THAT would be awesome to have when needed. Do you have any *working* utility that is able to over clock the MTK6573 CPU of it? I've tried some from the market but with no luck whatsoever.
Some info on the WiFi boosting would be helpful too. I've been digging into the /etc directory and found out several conf files that may, or may not do the job. I'd rather not alter the values on my own though...
Ah, finally another addition:
There seems to be an issue importing/exporting my contacts from the phone to google.com. Plus the Account and Sync options on the settings menu isn't reporting the respective field (i.e.: only Picassa, books and gmail is able to sync. Contacts is not on the list).
Thanks.
Cyber_dude - thanks for the rooting details. Got my V5 rooted today, and it worked from my vista laptop (didn't need a xp PC). I deleted the 9 chinese apps no problem including the chinese market app.
The vending.apk I provided works whether you root or not - however now that I'm rooted I will keep your instructions in mind if I want to upgrade to a different market version.
I'm still on the Dec1/2011 ios rom - anyone know what the newer ios rom (Dec10/2011) has to offer? I have tons of apps and settings personalized, so I'm not really wanting to wipe the phone to load the latest ios rom unless I know it will have some improvements.
Only problems I still have, which I would appreciate feedback on, are:
1) gps is very slow to find my location (can take up to 30 minutes). Funy thing is that as I scroll on the map it refreshes fast, and I can find addresses and streets, but it just can not find my location?
2) ther built in FM Transmitter does not work - would love to get this working since I do not have bluetooth stereo in the car. FYI - found other fmtransmiiter.apk apps on the net - can I just replace my existing same app on systems/bin to make it work?
Thanks
Have you tried it with the 'new' Android UI ROM? How does it perform? I'd really like to see some videos - youtube only has 13 and I've seen them all ..
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Only problems I still have, which I would appreciate feedback on, are:
1) gps is very slow to find my location (can take up to 30 minutes). Funy thing is that as I scroll on the map it refreshes fast, and I can find addresses and streets, but it just can not find my location?
2) ther built in FM Transmitter does not work - would love to get this working since I do not have bluetooth stereo in the car. FYI - found other fmtransmiiter.apk apps on the net - can I just replace my existing same app on systems/bin to make it work?
Thanks
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1) Same thing here. From the data sheet (from Mediatek) of the MTK6573 (which this phone has) the update location should be as fast as 10ms (that's 1/100 of a second) so something is DEFINITELY wrong.
2) I think you'll have to 'sign' it somehow. There are some apps that are supposed to provide 'signed' apps but never got to work with one; so I have no experience.
Cheers
macsga, DanADaMan, you are welcome.
I think cpu overclocking is not in time now and it also can make even worse. But we'll be glad if you can find any good, stable working app for that and test it. The only thing need to be overclocked now is the iOS UI, it should have to be polished well to match the original one.
For WiFi boosting, have you tried Wifi Fixer or Wifi Analyzer, you can change your WiFi channels with it.
GPS chipset is very bad. It's just a copy, fake phone, so they have used the cheapest hardware parts for it, we should reconcile to it. Unless they somehow fix it in new firmware, but I don't think it's gonna happen in near future. The main market for this phone is China, so they don't hasten with any international changes. As GooApple sales director said to me: "we sold more then 500pcs aday, should this problem happend to every phone, i think all the phone should return to us". So maybe chinese people are just not as demanding as we are, and they are happy with the phone? Anyway, I think with a good administrative force all listed issues can be resolved in just one week.
By the way, as I know they are planning to produce new phone in January with the 3G support. No info about any other new hardware at the moment.
Meantime we have to add new issues to the list:
39. GPS is very slow to find my location (can take up to 30 minutes).
40. Built in FM Transmitter does not work.
41. Importing/exporting my contacts from the phone to google.com. Plus the Account and Sync options on the settings menu isn't reporting the respective field (i.e.: only Picassa, books and gmail is able to sync. Contacts is not on the list).
42. In last gooapple_ios_11.12.08 firmware it doesn't react on first home button push after lock screen, it only shows unlock screen after the second home button push or fast twice push.
Updates in the last gooapple_ios_11.12.08 firmware:
Increase in task manager.
Blocking state to increase unread text message reminder.
Debug chinese QQ picture upside down.
Some Google applications added (en maps, gmail, voice..)
Task Manager.
Standby SMS prompts.
Double-click the home button shows running/standby apps and kill possibility like in original iOS.
Plus issue 42 added.
I haven't tried all new features in gooapple_ios_11.12.08 I don't want to use it because of the 42 issue. Now I'm using previous gooapple_ios_11.11.30 version. If anyone already installed and running the gooapple_ios_11.12.08 please give us your feedback.
DanADaMan, maybe you should try to make the data backup in stock recovery mode first and install firmware update after that? Maybe this should keep all your apps in and give you the new firmware? (haven't tried by myself)
jontelang, Sure, Android UI works much better with it, but I personally don't want to use it on this phone, it would be too simple and means you gave up making iOS UI ROM better.
As a side note, I've noticed that the phone is able to provide extraordinary 2D & 3D performance. I don't agree with the comment "It's just a copy, fake phone, so they have used the cheapest hardware parts for it, we should reconcile to it." you posted earlier Cyber_Dude, because I've seen cheap devices and this is nothing like it.
I do believe that the dev team has issues supporting the phone chipset due to the novelty that presents at the current time. This processor came out only at the end of June 2011 (fairly new).
News about MTK MT6573 Processor
Monday, June 13, 2011 3:25:26 AM America/Los_Angeles
Since the release MTK MT6516 processor, there is lots of Android phones in the market, which support GSM network and dual SIM card smartphone. But later, when Qualcomm, Broadcom and other smartphone processor manufacturer access into the field, mtk's dimmed. MTK MT6573 is the only hope in the future.
The end of June, 2011, we will share the latest trends with you, with the following new star.
Time: the first smartphone with MT6573 processor has been assembled, the major integrators, solution providers have had contact with, the reaction generally very good, have begun to prepare the relevant program models. As far as know, next month the first smartphone with MT6573 processor will unveiled.
Performance: As MT6573 is positioned in the low-end smartphone, we should not expect performance of deification, but the actual test performance to facilitate more than Qualcomm MSM7227, while MT6573 with the 3D acceleration in the multimedia DSP will give you a surprise. Currently sent to the integrators, solution providers of 3G features are still several prototype debugging.
Programs: MT6573 and MT6516 share same pins, and the both chips can be exchange without any hardware change, this will save cost on design for smartphone manufacturers.
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Via: http://android-sale.com/blog/news-mtk-mt6573/
macsga, But have you test it side by side with the iPhone 4 (not talking about 4S)?
Sure if comparing with other copies it's a winner. It's the best choice if you want to buy an iPhone replica for the price of the used iPhone 4 and you're not too picky. But it's a huge contrast with the original iPhone 4 UI performance, speed and hardware. And at the present time it's not totally ready for the wide international market due to the all listed issues. That's why I have started this thread, all together we can make it better. Unfortunately GooApple's dev team/engineers do nothing for it, local market and the new phone's version is their main goal at the moment. I know that because I've contacted with the GooApple sales director for the last 3 weeks.
As I have posted before they used MTK6513 it's cut MTK6573 without 3G support. It's good but not the best one. Anyway CPU is not the main problem of GooApple V5. The low capacity battery is much bigger failure. The android-sale.com is just a reseller, they can write anything they want to sell the phones more efficiently.
Hehe, I do have a 4s and (you're right) side by side there's nothing like it. That's why I gave up on iOS UI and turned to the android native one. I do believe that it's a perfect android testbed though. And for 230 Eur (retail price) that the 32Gb model cost me; well I can't really complain.
So; I totally agree! Let's try and make it better
The UI might be faster if you lower the resolution (i.e.: draw @ 480x320 and not the retina native resolution this phone has). It's zoom capabilities should cover the gap and reduce choppiness. Of course, this is just a crazy thought of mine...
macsga, Where have you got it for 230 EURO for 32GB? Official resellers like android-sale.com and rofen.net selling 32GB model for $319.99 (245 EURO) without shipping cost.
How could you lower the resolution? And why? If you want lower resolution you just should buy cheaper GooApple 3G version and it has faster UI response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqAevweocKs
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macsga, Where have you got it for 230 EURO for 32GB? Official resellers like android-sale.com and rofen.net selling 32GB model for $319.99 (245 EURO) without shipping cost.
How could you lower the resolution? And why? If you want lower resolution you just should buy cheaper GooApple 3G version and it has faster UI response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqAevweocKs
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I got it before the EUR/USD was at 1/1.29 which is what you just calculated . The lower resolution (magnified) would in my opinion give the fast and smooth feeling the 3G has.
As per why I didn't go for the 3G, I did not, because of the retina display the V5 has. The official replacement for a retina display from Apple goes up to 390EUR+pnp, where I got the whole phone for 230 (OK plus 11$ shipping). In the meanwhile I have an android phone to play with (apart from my 4s). Fair deal.
I just wiped the phone and tried to load the ios 12-08-11 rom. Got an error something about not being a signed rom. I reinstalled the ios 12-01-11 ios rom no problem.
Anyone else have problems loading the latest ios rom?
Thanks
is this real?
i have heard that the Gooapple v5 is very good, and it is the same display as the real iphone 4, and can exchange with the iphone 4 display, does this ture?
DanADaMan said:
I just wiped the phone and tried to load the ios 12-08-11 rom. Got an error something about not being a signed rom. I reinstalled the ios 12-01-11 ios rom no problem.
Anyone else have problems loading the latest ios rom?
Thanks
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There are newer ones from 2011.12.10 on http://rom.gooapple.com use those. Hopefully you won't have the same issues. Correction: Unfortunately the new Android one is not signed- The iOS though works OK
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lovebargaining said:
is this real?
i have heard that the Gooapple v5 is very good, and it is the same display as the real iphone 4, and can exchange with the iphone 4 display, does this ture?
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Yes, it's real. You can watch exchanging one another, on youtube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s7nUkSdzOqo
The flickering at the corners of the screen is annoying on mine, has this developed from the latest ROM or did you guys see it in previous? I've only had it a few days and updated straight away. I've resorted to the android UI cos the IOS one was sluggish but am more than happy to swap back to help?!
What I did find was GTA III kills this phone. On launch the intro plays but as the game launches the screen goes black and the phone will not respond to any button pressing for an hour, then I think it kills the process and the phone comes back. Just don't try, unless someone can tell me otherwise?
Mine responds on one click of the home button right now but Wireless is pants and so is GPS!
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How do I tell if I loaded 2011-12-08 or 2011-12-11?
I downloaded them on the 15th and loaded the Android one without any complaints of it being unsigned? Did it over the top of the version it came with though so not fresh install...
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Thought it was worth adding how to get into engineers menu:
Dial “*#67876#*”
Is there a way to turn WiFi Tx from 20 to 40 or even more?
I need to root mine still
I never noticed flickering and I have to say that the latest 'iOS' rom is a bit faster on my device resulting in a rather good imitation while the previous was very choppy.
The only drawback is that the UI crashes every now and then. I do like the 'long press' function of the home button that is able to kill apps in the 'official' iOS mode plus I think for the 1st time since I owned this phone that I like more the iOS UI to the android one.
I do have to offer a couple of tips that I found through my xda search:
1. Using a program like Root Explorer (root) you may want to make the following directories as Read Only: /data/tombstones and /data/system/dropbox
This has as a result, that the phone won't be able to log into the main phone memory thus trimming down your available space.
2. *IF* you're using the iOS UI version of the rom you can safely(?) remove the following apps (I state them as bloatware) via Root Uninstaller (root):
-QQ input method and keyboard
-Chinese market
-Chinese Youtube (Yuku)
-Chinese Maps
-Chinese Weather (3 entries, remove all three)
-Chinese iBooks (Google books does the job)
3. Add the following app: Locale Select from the Market and choose your language of choice.
4. If you search the xda site you will be able to find signed Google Apps that (most of them) work with this phone.
Ah, one last thing: I found the best player for playing p0r... erm, Movies, MoboPlayer with the additional ArmV7VFP3 plugin. Supports almost every codec and srt file out there and respective char encodings. Please ignore the message: This program is not compatible with your device. Works like a charm, I swear.
Cheers.
Okay so ive been battling this for sometime. I'm starting to get a little more knowledgeable but still don't know what to do with all this.I experienced this first back in 2015 then I completely made a switch. Well now I'm back to same issues.
The problems I'm experiencing is it's happening on all the devices I have. The phone I'm on now bought brand new from metropcs. and not even a day 30minutes later I get an update for the phone. I new not to install or download. But it inventively did. Now it's sitting on my storage wanting me to move files to root.
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR. NON OF MY DEVICES ARE ROOTED.
to make this short. My devices seem to have a Bluetooth admin. And connects to any Bluetooth device without me knowing.
So far from what I see chromium and stage fright is a big part of what I'm seeing.
I'm attaching some pictures to give more detail look. And it's not just my Android devices it's my Xbox one S as well.
looking to completely remove. I'm not trying to waste money on switching networks or completly going Mia.
Fast responses please.
Sincerly,
-Desperate androidian
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Okay so ive been battling this for sometime. I'm starting to get a little more knowledgeable but still don't know what to do with all this.I experienced this first back in 2015 then I completely made a switch. Well now I'm back to same issues.
The problems I'm experiencing is it's happening on all the devices I have. The phone I'm on now bought brand new from metropcs. and not even a day 30minutes later I get an update for the phone. I new not to install or download. But it inventively did. Now it's sitting on my storage wanting me to move files to root.
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR. NON OF MY DEVICES ARE ROOTED.
to make this short. My devices seem to have a Bluetooth admin. And connects to any Bluetooth device without me knowing.
So far from what I see chromium and stage fright is a big part of what I'm seeing.
I'm attaching some pictures to give more detail look. And it's not just my Android devices it's my Xbox one S as well.
looking to completely remove. I'm not trying to waste money on switching networks or completly going Mia.
Fast responses please.
Sincerly,
-Desperate androidian
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The Android community isn't what it used to be that's for sure. No help, no suggestions. Just nothing.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Okay so ive been battling this for sometime. I'm starting to get a little more knowledgeable but still don't know what to do with all this.I experienced this first back in 2015 then I completely made a switch. Well now I'm back to same issues.
The problems I'm experiencing is it's happening on all the devices I have. The phone I'm on now bought brand new from metropcs. and not even a day 30minutes later I get an update for the phone. I new not to install or download. But it inventively did. Now it's sitting on my storage wanting me to move files to root.
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR. NON OF MY DEVICES ARE ROOTED.
to make this short. My devices seem to have a Bluetooth admin. And connects to any Bluetooth device without me knowing.
So far from what I see chromium and stage fright is a big part of what I'm seeing.
I'm attaching some pictures to give more detail look. And it's not just my Android devices it's my Xbox one S as well.
looking to completely remove. I'm not trying to waste money on switching networks or completly going Mia.
Fast responses please.
Sincerly,
-Desperate androidian
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I'm no expert but I'm struggling to see your exact issue you seem to think you have, is it just t your Bluetooth is switching on. All those licences, security certs, file locations etc look normal to me (without checking numbers or being able to compare to same phone os etc) though I have disabled many of those certs eg the Turkish ones etc & my Bluetooth files are different but I can find ref hill those locations online eg Xieomi phones
You appear to have a ZTE, please give model number and current OS & rev (must be stock I suppose). ZTE was found with a backdoor in older phones, sending data to China, so it's possible, & some Chinese phones also update their apps without notification. But as you say your whole network appears compromised so the source may be something else, like your router/modem, or Bluetooth as you think (though some apps require Bluetooth admin permission legitimately, you can disable it as an Admin). Tell us what behaviors you are seeing that you believe are malicious. New phone update soon after you turn on is quite common, as I'm sure you know.
When I had a quick look at your log it did have a lot of activity going to the US DOD, would you expect this, as well as the usual google & Facebook connections. Though (perhaps) strangely also to a server from a small marketing company here in Australia, but I'm no expert even if I looked at your log line by line I wouldn't understand it all.
Ref his other post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/security-global-family-credientals-t3665851
Things to try. Run a reputable antivirus. Boot into safe mode, so only system apps run, is it still happening? Can you turn off anything that is listed as a device admin? Try run a root checker app. Even if it all comes back negative you may still have a problem as a port may already have been opened and malicious app self deleted or something. Use an app like Fing to see if any device you don't recognise are connected to your network.
You may be able to block some activity if it's not going through root with a firewall eg NetGuard no root firewall, start with everything blocked.
Above are just some general hints, without knowing specifics I can only suggest you backup any stuff you want to keep then factory reset everything & change ALL passwords to strong ones (no good just adding a number on the end of your old ones!), better still reflash all firmware (updates if available) to overwrite everything. This incl your internet access points eg router, and only reconnect to the net/networks after you have done them all (one at a time preferably then you may be able to identify source of problems)
That turned out a lot longer than I intended!
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I'm no expert but I'm struggling to see your exact issue you seem to think you have, is it just t your Bluetooth is switching on. All those licences, security certs, file locations etc look normal to me (without checking numbers or being able to compare to same phone os etc) though I have disabled many of those certs eg the Turkish ones etc & my Bluetooth files are different but I can find ref hill those locations online eg Xieomi phones
You appear to have a ZTE, please give model number and current OS & rev (must be stock I suppose). ZTE was found with a backdoor in older phones, sending data to China, so it's possible, & some Chinese phones also update their apps without notification. But as you say your whole network appears compromised so the source may be something else, like your router/modem, or Bluetooth as you think (though some apps require Bluetooth admin permission legitimately, you can disable it as an Admin). Tell us what behaviors you are seeing that you believe are malicious. New phone update soon after you turn on is quite common, as I'm sure you know.
When I had a quick look at your log it did have a lot of activity going to the US DOD, would you expect this, as well as the usual google & Facebook connections. Though (perhaps) strangely also to a server from a small marketing company here in Australia, but I'm no expert even if I looked at your log line by line I wouldn't understand it all.
Things to try. Run a reputable antivirus. Boot into safe mode, so only system apps run, is it still happening? Can you turn off anything that is listed as a device admin? Try run a root checker app. Even if it all comes back negative you may still have a problem as a port may already have been opened and malicious app self deleted or something. Use an app like Fing to see if any device you don't recognise are connected to your network.
You may be able to block some activity if it's not going through root with a firewall eg NetGuard no root firewall, start with everything blocked.
Above are just some general hints, without knowing specifics I can only suggest you backup any stuff you want to keep then factory reset everything & change ALL passwords to strong ones (no good just adding a number on the end of your old ones!), better still reflash all firmware (updates if available) to overwrite everything. This incl your internet access points eg router, and only reconnect to the net/networks after you have done them all (one at a time preferably then you may be able to identify source of problems)
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Thank-you. Now for a better visual. There's to many apps.
And if u can give me links to apps that will help.
And on my oneplus one the Bluetooth thing says :1002 sharing or midi or something.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Thank-you. Now for a better visual. There's to many apps.
And if u can give me links to apps that will help.
And on my oneplus one the Bluetooth thing says :1002 sharing or midi or something.
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And code.auroa? What is this
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Thank-you. Now for a better visual. There's to many apps.
And if u can give me links to apps that will help.
And on my oneplus one the Bluetooth thing says :1002 sharing or midi or something.
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I don't have that phone so can't really tell what is a suspect app or not, especially just from screen shots.
Here use this app to run on demand scans against the virustotal database (this is not an "antivirus app" like Avast so offers no protection, it only scans apps on demand, so you should run a good antivirus also)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funnycat.virustotal
it should flag any suspect apps and you can submit any unknown ones you are worried about.
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BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
And code.auroa? What is this
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edit: not Firefox then.
org.codeaurora.bluetooth is a legit part of Bluetooth .... Well unless it's flagged by virustotal then it probably is a malicious app just given a common name to try and hide
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I don't have that phone so can't really tell what is a suspect app or not, especially just from screen shots.
Here use this app to run on demand scans against the virustotal database (this is not an "antivirus app" like Avast so offers no protection)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funnycat.virustotal
it should flag any suspect apps and you can submit any unknown ones you are worried about.
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Okay but what is provisioning? Code auroa smartcard services googleplay for instance apps and
And IV never encrypted this phone.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Okay but what is provisioning? Code auroa smartcard services googleplay for instance apps and
And IV never encrypted this phone.
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And alot of the overlay apps n simtoolkit are all questionmarked
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
And alot of the overlay apps n simtoolkit are all questionmarked
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ser my edit above re aurora
sometimes virustotal will have 2 or 3 antiivirus companies flag a file, these are probably false positives so probably nothing to worry about (though could just be a new submission, other companies should soon update if real malicious code, check back in a day or two). If lots of companies flag an apk then you haven a problem.
It looks like you have a problem whit overlays (unless it's an app your phone company installs for that function, not sure what you mean). You should install a proper antivirus app like Avast, malwarebytes etc as a first step, hopefully it can remove malicious apk
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BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
And IV never encrypted this phone.
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Doesn't matter, encrypting phone only protects unauthorised access to your data. Once it is unlocked anyone can view your stuff. And once a malicious app is on your system it can shall read all your data even if you had encrypted it as it's unencrypted when you use it
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ser my edit above re aurora
sometimes virustotal will have 2 or 3 antiivirus companies flag a file, these are probably false positives so probably nothing to worry about (though could just be a new submission, other companies should soon update if real malicious code, check back in a day or two). If lots of companies flag an apk then you haven a problem.
It looks like you have a problem whit overlays (unless it's an app your phone company installs for that function). You should install a proper antivirus app like Avast, malwarebytes etc as a first step, hopefully it can remove malicious apk
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Doesn't matter, encrypting phone only protects unauthorised access to your data. Once it is unlocked anyone can view your stuff. And once a malicious app is on your system it can shall read all your data even if you had encrypted it as it's unencrypted when you use it
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Okay so now I'm trying to post screenshots of when I'm connected to wifi and it's not letting me
Pairwise cyphers and
Group cyphers
Sim_num
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BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
And alot of the overlay apps n simtoolkit are all questionmarked
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Tap those with question marks to submit to virustotal for analysis
IronRoo said:
Tap those with question marks to submit to virustotal for analysis
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/sys/fs/selinux/class/appletalk_socket/perms
Not suspious?
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
/sys/fs/selinux/class/appletalk_socket/perms
Not suspious?
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Now I'm not stupid, this is facts. I just need defined and solution!!!
No these are normal library files. Stagefright "the malicious exploits" were called this as it was the stagefright framework it exploited. Everyone has these files, here are mine below.
You need to use tools like antivirus to identify bad files but even that is no guarantee as there is the possibility the original malicious file could have self deleted and, for example, just left open ports which would not be found as a "virus" but still allow remote access to your device.
If you cannot identify the actual exploit on your phone then the best solution is probably to just reflash the stock rom as this will wipe & overwrite everything. But if a malicious file is left on your SD card or another networked device you could soon be infected/compromised again. That is why I said before if you can't identify the source of your infection you really need to factory reset or reinstall all OS on all devices affected including your home router etc (or maybe it's your work or public network) and change all passwords.
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No these are normal library files. Stagefright "the malicious exploits" were called this as it was the stagefright framework it exploited. Everyone has these files, here are mine below.
You need to use tools like antivirus to identify bad files but even that is no guarantee as there is the possibility the original malicious file could have self deleted and, for example, just left open ports which would not be found as a "virus" but still allow remote access to your device.
If you cannot identify the actual exploit on your phone then the best solution is probably to just reflash the stock rom as this will wipe & overwrite everything. But if a malicious file is left on your SD card or another networked device you could soon be infected/compromised again. That is why I said before if you can't identify the source of your infection you really need to factory reset or reinstall all OS on all devices affected including your home router etc (or maybe it's your work or public network) and change all passwords.
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I'm on a video bridge network I got the direct TV setup with 2 wireless setups. Both secure from what I know.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Pairwise cyphers and
Group cyphers
Sim_num
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These are for encryption of your connection, not your phone
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
I'm on a video bridge network I got the direct TV setup with 2 wireless setups. Both secure from what I know.
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I'm no coding/security guru, but I have worked on telecoms, military electronics, etc but my coding & network security knowledge is limited.
I would run this app Fing to check your local network, are there any unknown devices connected?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.overlook.android.fing
note: this only finds currently connected devices, so you'd want to do this several times & especially when you see suspect behavior.
Also check for open ports, easiest way is probably this site, it will scan the first 1000 ports or so (select all)
https://www.grc.com/
go to shields up
but you really need to scan ALL possible ports with a tool like Zenmap (for PC) if you think you are compromised
https://nmap.org/zenmap/
However it's not clear to me if you ever installed a proper antivirus and whether it found and deleted anything? Virustotal seemed to find some suspect apks, I had a quick look at Trendmicro database but it didn't list details of the one it found in your screenshot, but the fact some of those antivirus companies called the suspect apk names with "joke" in it may suggest it's just a joke app your mate has installed, though probably not a joke app if your other devices are really also compromised, from memory there is also real malware with that name which may be able to infect other devices. Running a proper antivirus should easily find and clean any "joke" app on your phone & hopefully any real malware. If you've done this and still seeing indications you are compromised then do what I suggested above. (Also repeat malware checks on other devices and removable storage media)
You should also log into your router as admin and check settings, are you using a secure router password? Is firmware up to date. Is firewall set up correctly? Also close any open ports that you don't use. Turn off remote admin, if router has it. Etc etc what do your router logs show (turn on more detailed logging if necessary) Factory reset or reinstall firmware if you think changes have been made to your router by someone else.
Hi I am having same issues. Exact same behaviors regardless of new phones new carrier and all accounts being unconnected in name. Google etc. This is extreme. Its via bluetooth I agree something with esims or virtual sims for use of wifi access and or signal piracy for media. The DOD files are also something I am familier with seeing. Code Aurora was also a govt project way back. Its Interesting thst I have Verizon files loading on at & t phones and sprint loading on Verizon. Whatever this is has managed to infiltrate my computers as well. Its relentless. Its impressive and sophisticated. Please please help.
Spidder77 said:
Hi I am having same issues. Exact same behaviors regardless of new phones new carrier and all accounts being unconnected in name. Google etc. This is extreme. Its via bluetooth I agree something with esims or virtual sims for use of wifi access and or signal piracy for media. The DOD files are also something I am familier with seeing. Code Aurora was also a govt project way back. Its Interesting thst I have Verizon files loading on at & t phones and sprint loading on Verizon. Whatever this is has managed to infiltrate my computers as well. Its relentless. Its impressive and sophisticated. Please please help.
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I'm having the same issmy ues. Did anyone ever resolve or figure out what is happening? I think I'm under investigation by the DOD and they own my devices. My uploads/downloads are blocked, internet searches filtered, pics/screenshots of evidence deleted off my phone, etc.
Hi guys.
I'm wanting to buy my partner a 2017 version of Amazon fire HD 8.
Before I do so, I'm wanting to know if it had the option of adding "unknown sources", and also, if I can mirror anything from the fire tablet which is seen on screen, to her TV, which is able to receive devices.
I know there's quite a few fire tablets over time, and they differ, but I want to know this tablet is good enough, before I purchase it. Thanks in advance
David7878 said:
Hi guys.
I'm wanting to buy my partner a 2017 version of Amazon fire HD 8.
Before I do so, I'm wanting to know if it had the option of adding "unknown sources", and also, if I can mirror anything from the fire tablet which is seen on screen, to her TV, which is able to receive devices.
I know there's quite a few fire tablets over time, and they differ, but I want to know this tablet is good enough, before I purchase it. Thanks in advance
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Hey there - I wrote you a response but this system keeps blocking me from replying crying: ), so I'll send you a message. But in a nutshell - yes and yes.
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richaardvark said:
Hey there - I wrote you a response but this system keeps blocking me from replying crying: ), so I'll send you a message. But in a nutshell - yes and yes.
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David7878 said:
Hi guys.
I'm wanting to buy my partner a 2017 version of Amazon fire HD 8.
Before I do so, I'm wanting to know if it had the option of adding "unknown sources", and also, if I can mirror anything from the fire tablet which is seen on screen, to her TV, which is able to receive devices.
I know there's quite a few fire tablets over time, and they differ, but I want to know this tablet is good enough, before I purchase it. Thanks in advance
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Hi David! To answer your questions:
Yes - you can install apps from "unknown sources."
Yes, - you can mirror your screen (using various third-party tools) but the built-in/stock Android casting/mirroring feature doesn't work. I've come close to getting it to connect but there's always an error. I've used several third-party casting apps though with overall decent screen mirroring quality.
Enhancing your 2017 Fire HD 8 by installing the Play Store/by way of some of the recent guides on here, especially (IMO) the most recent method for hiding/disabling system apps & bloatware, you're actually left with a pretty solid tablet! My expectations have been exceeded anyway, though I'll admit they were pretty low, lol. Just remember - no rooting nor bootloader unlocking options are available yet (and may never be), so you won't be able to install custom ROMs or anything of that nature. But I'd say it's worth it, especially if you buy one on sale for next to nothing.
richaardvark said:
you can mirror your screen (using various third-party tools) but the built-in/stock Android casting/mirroring feature doesn't work. I've come close to getting it to connect but there's always an error. I've used several third-party casting apps though with overall decent screen mirroring quality.
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Can you recommend one of these third party casting apps? I've tried a few but nothing seems to work on my TV (which I believe uses miracast)
ModuRaziel said:
Can you recommend one of these third party casting apps? I've tried a few but nothing seems to work on my TV (which I believe uses miracast)
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These tablets unfortunately have too much of the Miracast code missing so I can't get the actual original Miracast to work. The only Cast app I managed to get to work from device to device is Remo Droid which is available on the Play Store. It's relatively easy to setup and use. Let me know how it goes for you.
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Hey there - I wrote you a response but this system keeps blocking me from replying crying: ), so I'll send you a message. But in a nutshell - yes and yes.
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Hi David! To answer your questions:
Yes - you can install apps from "unknown sources."
Yes, - you can mirror your screen (using various third-party tools) but the built-in/stock Android casting/mirroring feature doesn't work. I've come close to getting it to connect but there's always an error. I've used several third-party casting apps though with overall decent screen mirroring quality.
Enhancing your 2017 Fire HD 8 by installing the Play Store/by way of some of the recent guides on here, especially (IMO) the most recent method for hiding/disabling system apps & bloatware, you're actually left with a pretty solid tablet! My expectations have been exceeded anyway, though I'll admit they were pretty low, lol. Just remember - no rooting nor bootloader unlocking options are available yet (and may never be), so you won't be able to install custom ROMs or anything of that nature. But I'd say it's worth it, especially if you buy one on sale for next to nothing.
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It's not that it doesn't work it's that most of the OEM have taken out the Android code that activates it. For example in fire OS, on every tablet except the HD 8, the 'wifi_display' string is missing in the public XML of the framework. I've recently come across a post on XDA that explains how to create settings like that, but I haven't read enough about it yet and haven't tried it. I have the next 2 days off and it's a project I'm going to try. And if it works it might reactivate the old stock feature.
DragonFire1024 said:
These tablets unfortunately have too much of the Miracast code missing so I can't get the actual original Miracast to work. The only Cast app I managed to get to work from device to device is Remo Droid which is available on the Play Store. It's relatively easy to setup and use. Let me know how it goes for you.
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It's not that it doesn't work it's that most of the OEM have taken out the Android code that activates it. For example in fire OS, on every tablet except the HD 8, the 'wifi_display' string is missing in the public XML of the framework. I've recently come across a post on XDA that explains how to create settings like that, but I haven't read enough about it yet and haven't tried it. I have the next 2 days off and it's a project I'm going to try. And if it works it might reactivate the old stock feature.
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I'd be interested to see the results of your work. I just tried Remo Droid and a few other apps but none work. Remo doesnt detect any devices and the others all kick back to the amazon wireless settings page
ModuRaziel said:
I'd be interested to see the results of your work. I just tried Remo Droid and a few other apps but none work. Remo doesnt detect any devices and the others all kick back to the amazon wireless settings page
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Weird. Remo worked on my HD 8. It kicks back likely because the 'config_enableWifiDisplay' in the framework is set to false.
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Weird. Remo worked on my HD 8. It kicks back likely because the 'config_enableWifiDisplay' in the framework is set to false.
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I suspect Remo not working is more to do with the tv than the device. Im sure if i browsed on my pc to the url that remo puts out, id be able to see the screen, but it just doesnt see the tv as a device to connect to.
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Weird. Remo worked on my HD 8. It kicks back likely because the 'config_enableWifiDisplay' in the framework is set to false.
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remo was the only oneto work for me.
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ModuRaziel said:
I suspect Remo not working is more to do with the tv than the device. Im sure if i browsed on my pc to the url that remo puts out, id be able to see the screen, but it just doesnt see the tv as a device to connect to.
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And that case is quite possible you may need a dongle like Chromecast for you to use your television. Because I have the same issue with my computer monitor. It won't read any devices. And Google says I need Chromecast.
richaardvark said:
Hey there - I wrote you a response but this system keeps blocking me from replying crying: ), so I'll send you a message. But in a nutshell - yes and yes.
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Hi David! To answer your questions:
Yes - you can install apps from "unknown sources."
Yes, - you can mirror your screen (using various third-party tools) but the built-in/stock Android casting/mirroring feature doesn't work. I've come close to getting it to connect but there's always an error. I've used several third-party casting apps though with overall decent screen mirroring quality.
Enhancing your 2017 Fire HD 8 by installing the Play Store/by way of some of the recent guides on here, especially (IMO) the most recent method for hiding/disabling system apps & bloatware, you're actually left with a pretty solid tablet! My expectations have been exceeded anyway, though I'll admit they were pretty low, lol. Just remember - no rooting nor bootloader unlocking options are available yet (and may never be), so you won't be able to install custom ROMs or anything of that nature. But I'd say it's worth it, especially if you buy one on sale for next to nothing.
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***Thank you.
Which third party apps have you used to do this? I have the fire tablet, and there is no option for display mirroring, and therefore need to download an app which will mirror it. Ive tried a few on the app store which is on the fire tablet but with no joy. The TV I use received display mirroring. Thank
I got the Mate 20 X from Italy, delivered two weeks after order on November 12 for € 829, VAT and 2-years warranty included. It is a nice silver device 6/128 (don’t need more memory). My first hands-on impression? I was shocked.
I had pure Chinese phones before (Huawei and Lenovo) and I know how to deal with them. That wasn’t what upset me. And it wasn’t EMUI either, I like some of its functionality and I know how to customize it.
But my previous phone was Mate 10 pro (international, not Chinese), which really works well and comparison with a newcomer is what really shocked me. The EVR_AL00 came slow and clumsy with those big fat letters and ugly ios-like icons on the screen. I tried to improve the look with increasing the smallest width in the developer options, but original resolution came back with every reset.
So what I did first, is factory reset (I usually perform it on every new phone). I lost Google Play but I didn’t care, I intended to install and adjust Google apps anyway.
And then I started to customize the phone. Basically, it means “dechinezed” and “deiosinezed” it and make it usable for my purposes as the daily driver. Eventually, I succeeded and like before I don’t regret that I bought the Chinese phone as I never regretted before. I believe that my customization demands would request almost the same amount of work and effort with the “international” version.
And with “dechinezed” I don’t mean to be impolite, actually, I like some of the features of China phones, some of them after years comes to western phones as well (night sight, close all apps etc). I just prefer the more Android look of the phone (even more than currently, Google delivers).
The actual status of my phone is as follows:
In the beginning, when I started phone manager, the performance never exceeded 69%. It seems that later it adapted and healed itself (maybe with help of AI) and now performance is usually over 90, close to 100% and the phone suddenly becomes snappy and smooth, slightly better than Mate 10 pro. As expected, the battery life is due to its capacity and with my way of use it could easily survive two days. I don’t have exact data on SOT and other parameters of the battery performance yet. By adjusting the text and display size (both too small) under settings/display the phone gets a nicer look and more usable size of applications.
I had decided to keep EMUI launcher before I learned that the phone has a hard time with other launchers. I bought Nova Prime once, I consider it a great launcher, maybe the best, but even on my previous phone I used EMUI. The reason is in its features that I don’t want to sacrifice: dedicated Accuweather, swype gestures (now with 9), dark mode. I was never a fan of ios-like white themes, I always considered that Android’s color is black. Besides, what even Google admits now (and started to return black mode into its apps accordingly), the white mode consumes a lot more energy (especially with AMOLED). What is yet to admit is that it burns your eyes.
So, what I have now, is a fully customized EVR_AL00 that perfectly suits my needs. That means that it looks like Android, works like Android and behaves like Android. I replaced most Chinese apps with Google’s ones, installed additional that I use and tune the system. With tuning the system I mean screen adjustment and customization. Under Settings/Display/text and display size, I changed both values to small and thus converted ugly appearance of the display into something that suits size and purpose of the phone. I replaced IOS icons with the Android ones. Adjusted notifications and permissions for each application.
First I was thinking about keeping some Chinese apps that I considered useful, like Sky Mobile and a few others. But trying them I found out that all of them are more or less connected either with Chinese environment or payment system and therefore eventually I removed them all. After I had to perform the factory reset I was only got more careful with apps that I disabled. And according to my orientation, I kept Email, at least until Google implements dark color in Gmail. And kept useful utilities: (Manager, Gallery, Remote…).
Otherwise, I use Google Phone (the amazing last beta from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-google-phone-v14-0-175904292-bubble-t3708218, thank you Martin), Messages, Translate (removed nonfunctional MS Translate), Auto, Duo, Voice, Photos, Trips, Pay, Assistant, Lens, Google, Chrome, and of course all Google system apps. I also use third-party apps like VLC, Xiaomi calculator and YouTube vanced. Pretty much everything works as expected, including notifications to the extent that suits my way of use. After I erased Hivoice, Assistant works together with the hot word, if the screen is turned on (never wished to use it from turned off screen). The red mic on notification bar of the attached picture shows that assistant is active.
All banks application work. Google Play is not working at the moment but I expect that it will eventually. Currently, failure is the result of poor synchronization between Chinese EMUI and Google Android. No point to call the bank, it is the last one to solve the problem. The problem will be solved with the new EMUI or Play Services, because there is no material obstacle for G Play (SafetyNet passed and bank card is recognized and could be used online). I have another identical payment system installed (Inteso SP) and it works flawlessly.
CUSTOMIZATION
In order to adapt the phone to my needs, I had to deal with existing Chinese application first. I had to either: 1) remove them, 2) hide them, or 3) disable (erase) them.
Removing apps
Removing apps was easy. Just uninstall Chinese in Settings/Apps. As I said, I did it thoroughly and indiscriminately.
Hiding apps
My overall objective is to have only one home screen page. I’m fed up with slippery pages interfering with gestures. And besides, I decided to use gestures (swype) as system navigation and therefore swyping between homepages could be annoying even more.
In order to have only one home page, I have to use folders and hide auxiliary functional apps (like download, OTA, backup, clock..etc).
Surprisingly I found that Tweaker for Huawei works pretty well with EMUI9, although it is an old application: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teammt.gmanrainy.emuitweaker&hl=en. One of its functions is triggering the abandoned EMUI gesture that enables hiding any application and thus removing it from the home screen without affecting its functionality.
Disabling (erasing) apps
To “remove” any nonremovable application without root you need a computer with the adb command-line tool. In fact, this method never removes any application, rather disables and hides it for the current user. So it doesn’t affect OTA and it doesn’t revert after reset either. It does come back after factory reset though.
The method of erasing an app works through adb (so adb must be installed on the computer – either Windows or Linux) and it requests the following syntax in command line:
1. adb devices (and after that setting permission on the phone)
2. adb shell
3. pm unistall -k --user 0 <package name>
where <package name> is not the name of the application as it shows but the name of the installed package, which must be discovered and one of the apps which could do that effectively could be found here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.itto.packageinspector&hl=en.
(for example: pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.wallet)
A basic idea what to disable could be found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-10/how-to/guide-to-remove-apps-root-t3828324. Of course, what to disable always depends on personal preferences and therefore this list should be taken with a grain of salt.
So, after arranging applications there comes the final stage of making the phone Android again. EMUI makeover. For that, we need this EMUI editor: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mixapplications.themeeditor.
But there is a bad news. It doesn’t work with EMUI 9 (yet). What now? There are two possibilities: either finding a good theme and simply installing it (there are plenty of them, only I didn’t test if they are working with EMUI 9 (some of the android likes are to be found in the Playstore under Hamzio7 or here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/themes/pure-black-theme-emui-8-t3719904.
The other possibility is to find a phone with EMUI 8 and compile the hwt file there and transfer it to Mate 20 X. That is what I did. The system will warn you that it is an old version of the theme and it might not work well but skip that. It works just fine.
Don’t judge the solution by my design. I’m a modest guy, more practically oriented. You may have almost any design that you wish.
And of course, if you decide to experiment with this stuff yourself, you should be aware that you are the only one taking the risk. I honestly believe that you can’t, if you are not extremely innovative, irretrievably destroy anything, but even factory reset might be sometimes really annoying.
Good luck with your brand new Chinese Mate 20 X.
Great post Just a couple of questions:
1) Are your notifications working perfectly? By that, I mean without delay under both wi-fi and mobile networks, with screen on and screen off? If so, what did you do to achieve this?
2) Do you mind sharing where did you buy the device from?
Nice job! Looking even more forward to the arrival of my Mate 20 X!
@piskr
Would you mind give some steps to get google phone and Messages to work properly. When phone call comes in, my phone call screen does not come on. Messages only works sometime and sometime message does not send. Thanks.
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Great post Just a couple of questions:
1) Are your notifications working perfectly? By that, I mean without delay under both wi-fi and mobile networks, with screen on and screen off? If so, what did you do to achieve this?
2) Do you mind sharing where did you buy the device from?
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1) Yes, notifications work flawlessly in my extent of use, both with the screen on and off. I don't use exotics like telegram or whatsapp though. It's a matter of permissions and notification settings. Be aware that each notification had to be set separately and checked under application and under notification sector under settings. And also have in mind that if you install the third party phone, it is just addition of original phone (under app/system processes), and the later must remain active and has its own permissions and notification as well. Phone app has different system structure than SMS. You can simply erase Huawei messaging and replace it with the Google one (haven't tried others).
2) You can find here both color and memory variants: https://www.ilmultistoredelzazza.eu...l_Sim_EMUI_9_Android_9/p1748191_19236868.aspx
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Would you mind give some steps to get google phone and Messages to work properly. When phone call comes in, my phone call screen does not come on. Messages only works sometime and sometime message does not send. Thanks.
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You should really carefully check and set both permissions and notifications for each application. And remember that you mustn't neglect the system phone app.
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You should really carefully check and set both permissions and notifications for each application. And remember that you mustn't neglect the system phone app.
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I checked all the settings and seem to be correct unless I missed some steps.
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I checked all the settings and seem to be correct unless I missed some steps.
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OK. Here are my settings.
You do know there's an EVR-L international models, right? Why not just get that instead? That's what I have.
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OK. Here are my settings.
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Thanks for taking the time to post the screen shots. All my the settings are the same except I don't the phone app on your last screen shot. Did you download it or it's a stock app?
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You do know there's an EVR-L international models, right? Why not just get that instead? That's what I have.
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It's too late. I already bought the China version. It's too much hassle try to sell it.
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Thanks for taking the time to post the screen shots. All my the settings are the same except I don't the phone app on your last screen shot. Did you download it or it's a stock app?
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It's too late. I already bought the China version. It's too much hassle try to sell it.
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That's right, the last one is Google phone from the link I published and it works just fine (I really recommend it, it has so many opportunities). But you have managed to get notifications neither on the home screen nor on the lock screen? Neither for messages nor for the phone? If I were you I would go from setting to setting for this two apps and inspect every item very carefully. It is possible in this early stage of EMUI9 that it has some weird glitches occurring randomly on some phones but it is not very likely. A small overlooked detail in settings could mean everything.
Otherwise, I don't regret that I bought the Chinese version. Now I've got everything that I would have with the international variant. Only I don't have working Google pay yet, but so far I haven't seen a clear statement that it really works on international Mate 20x either. To work means to be able pay with the phone not only loading a card, that's what I did too. Otherwise, I got a good price (€660 before VAT), integrated call recorder and rooting opportunity.
And regarding crap, international one has it too. I've got international Mate 10 pro and I know it. Besides Chinese one additional western, baked in (MS, Facebook, Google's and third party's).
@piskr
The phone will ring on the google phone app but the screen does not come. I will play with the settings and figure it out. Thanks for all the help.
Thank you. This helped get me to a non-Chinese specifc phone.
Attachin my ADB run.
UPDATE: Please check out AJ's great thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/how-to/guide-remove-apps-adb-t3870727
I mistakenly removed one item (com.huawei.android.hwouc) I shouldn't have and I amnot getting OTAs (which I also turn off automatic ones in dev options, but if I want one, I lost it them).
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Thank you. This helped get me to a non-Chinese specifc phone.
Attachin my ADB run.
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As I'm not well schooled on ADB. How would you apply this? And why 2 Zips? Gracias
See beginning of the thread and other threads on ADB. Same list, mine in txt or zip, same file, not necessarily good for everyone.
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As I'm not well schooled on ADB. How would you apply this? And why 2 Zips? Gracias
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Here's my Spreadsheet with a quick guide in it along with the adb files you'll need.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/how-to/guide-remove-apps-adb-t3870727
Once you get the list of packages on your AL00 just run the fastboot command to remove each one.
wingzero said:
@piskr
The phone will ring on the google phone app but the screen does not come. I will play with the settings and figure it out. Thanks for all the help.
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Wondering if you had any luck. Some people actually use a phone as a phone
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Wondering if you had any luck. Some people actually use a phone as a phone
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I got it working. I am using the stable v.25 version. What I did was after selected the google phone as default dialing app, I go back to default apps and click the stock phone and then click the google phone again. I did this by chance and luck. Hope this will solve your issue. The stock phone app is horrible. Make sure you use the stable version. Good luck.
wingzero said:
I got it working. I am using the stable v.25 version. What I did was after selected the google phone as default dialing app, I go back to default apps and click the stock phone and then click the google phone again. I did this by chance and luck. Hope this will solve your issue. The stock phone app is horrible. Make sure you use the stable version. Good luck.
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Thanks man.
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Now it's 27. And so far everything work. Regarding comments on the forum we are on the privileged side. Just be sure to set notifications and permissions right.
I recently got a replacement S pen from a Note20 to play around with, and am interested in trying to get the Bluetooth features working with my Note9 (the actual Pen stuff works as expected). Pairing through the app (as you might expect) times out and is unsuccessful so I've come here for potential options that somebody knowledgeable might be able to guide me towards.
Possible causes:
The S Pen "app" is not updated to support newer pens
The app in question seems to be "Air Command," which I can update through APKMirror. However, slightly newer versions still don't pair the new pen, and the latest version crashes if any pen is inserted into the device. Does anybody know what version came bundled with the Note20 so I can test that one?
Additionally, is there another "app" that I've missed that also needs to be updated?
The S Pen "app" depends on firmware blobs that the note9 never received
In this case I'm out of luck, but can somebody confirm if this is the case? I am no stranger to rooting my phone and getting a ROM with back-ported features, as long as said ROM exists on the N960U1.
The S Pen I have is somehow a gimped version of the real one
While the pen I got was labeled "Generic," it seems to be crafted as well as an official pen can get, and I see no way to confirm it has the correct hardware without just snapping it in half, or buying a note20 to test it there.
Thanks again in advance
Network reset.
Clear system cache.
The app must support the bt spen.
Here's what Samsung says.
If that function is supported spens can be a bit twitchy at first initialization or if not used for a while. Make sure it's charging to 100%, that's the first initialization hurdle to overcome if it's being difficult. Play with it...
I've done both resets, and will see how much the pen charges within an hour (though the pen is advertised to get 80% of its charge in a minute...)
I hope I've made it clear in the OP, but the new pen I'm trying to connect is not the Note9 pen, but a newer Note20 pen in order to try to take advantage of its newer bluetooth features (which, in theory but not in practice, only requires a bluetooth connection).
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I've done both resets, and will see how much the pen charges within an hour (though the pen is advertised to get 80% of its charge in a minute...)
I hope I've made it clear in the OP, but the new pen I'm trying to connect is not the Note9 pen, but a newer Note20 pen in order to try to take advantage of its newer bluetooth features (which, in theory but not in practice, only requires a bluetooth connection).
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As I recall the newer features that first appeared on the N10+ aren't available on the N9. Can't find the article that describes the differences though.
Pick up a N10+ if you want, night and day performance difference. Less so with the N20U going forward, in fact a step backward with efficiency and display color/gamma rendering.
Color calibration and rendering take a hit with the variable rate displays; they are extremely hard to color calibrate accurately.
I have taken a look into the Air Command .apk and found some classes that look like they control the S pen features (they are named as drivers, so its probably that regardless). I will be attempting to simply splice the drivers from a newer device into the `crown` folder and hope the only reason Samsung never tried was not because it was impossible in software.
Apologies for the bump
After doing a bunch of string renaming and rebuilding the apk with the new drivers spliced in, it is very apparent that to actually test the changes I would either need a rooted device, or a way to sign the apk as if I were Samsung myself. If neither of those are possible, then it would be impossible to get an N960U1 with an S Pen newer than the Note9's stylus.
Further questions that could potentially be researched:
If the latest Air Command seems to be incompatible with the Note9 (crashes if any pen is inserted into the device), then why do the Crown files still exist in the apk?
(this thread effectively dies here)
Google it, don't hack what doesn't need a hack.
It may require the latest firmware upgrade and updates to work but it appears the N9 does indeed support it. The spen needs to be compatible with the N9 as well.
This improvement was probably added sometime after 2019...
The S Pen on the Note9 (Crown) has always supported the Remote feature, however the Note10 (Davinci) and newer have gesture support built into the pen. I have been attempting to backport the gesture support to get my new pen to work, however it looks like the driverset will forever be separated unless a way to update a Samsung system APK without root exists.
If I do come back to this I will try to see if this entire driver can be run in userspace, then write an app accordingly
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The S Pen on the Note9 (Crown) has always supported the Remote feature, however the Note10 (Davinci) and newer have gesture support built into the pen. I have been attempting to backport the gesture support to get my new pen to work, however it looks like the driverset will forever be separated unless a way to update a Samsung system APK without root exists.
If I do come back to this I will try to see if this entire driver can be run in userspace, then write an app accordingly
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Gestures is so-so at best. If you got bt remote shutter release, be happy...