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Hi,
I'm currently designing a completely new android device and would like some feedback on the hardware designs. (It is a phone with a 4.2" screen.)
I will build a working prototype from an old Zte blade and 3d printed bits at some point.
Update: the hardware i'm thinking of for a product final isn't like the blade's, it would be higher end.
Update 2: The apk thing was kind of a separate note, this phone would initially be AOSP i was just thinking of something separate I'm working on.
Please don't steal my idea, and credit this source if you build upon it.
Any way
please let me know what you think:
docx format concept attatched below
Not something u see everyday, will definitely take a look
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How about stereo speakers? You should design it like this; one on the bottom left (speaker A) & one on top right (speaker B). In portrait, speaker A is the left channel, speaker B the right channel. This is ideal for listening to music. But when the user switch to landscape for example to watch movies, speaker B becomes the left channel, speaker A becomes the right channel. I know it's quite hard to imagine but it totally makes sense. Also, it distinguishes your device from others in the market.
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How about stereo speakers? You should design it like this; one on the bottom left (speaker A) & one on top right (speaker B). In portrait, speaker A is the left channel, speaker B the right channel. This is ideal for listening to music. But when the user switch to landscape for example to watch movies, speaker B becomes the left channel, speaker A becomes the right channel. I know it's quite hard to imagine but it totally makes sense. Also, it distinguishes your device from others in the market.
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Why though? Who listens to music from the speakers anyway?
votum said:
Why though? Who listens to music from the speakers anyway?
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Not always, but I do.
About the speakers:
good idea but i don't know if it's plausible to have two sets at the top, what if the mic was two way? then it has two larger speakers on the front for stereo playback?
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Both speakers should be on the back, not in front. That would be ridiculous LOL. Also, how about a kickstand so you don't always have do hold it when watching movies.
You always have to have a speaker on the front, it's a phone. there wont be room to have it at the back at the top as well as the two cameras, proximity, ambient light sensor, and front calling speaker.
about the kickstand; I've already been thinking about that, but where would it go? I'm building up some models for one with a kick stand now.
I think you a referring to the speaker for phone call. I'm talking about speakers that you listen to when you play music. Almost all phones have it on the back, but only 1. My idea is to put 2 of them.
Edit: An example of phone with stereo speaker http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w595-pictures-2469.php
right new picture; this one incorporates the idea of a kickstand with two speakers, although they are on the sides they wrap around to the back.
My comment on the front speakers was an idea that you could use the calling speaker as a music/ other audio speaker, as well, for movie playback.
Great! Are you really building this phone for the market or just designing for fun?
Looks like a weird version of the Xperia Arc
Sound like a good ideai would love to see how this turns out
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TobiasV said:
Looks like a weird version of the Xperia Arc
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Also xperia s
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If you fancy some crit, (BTW I'm a 3D artist of 16 years in games/film as a TD so I often only see the bad points of design or function)
1. "Edge to Edge" screen. Although I've often thought about a phone with this, from a design standpoint it becomes a little impractical for a number of reasons.
a) The users hands activate the areas on the edge just by holding it.
b) The problem of a) becomes much greater when holding the phone and operating it with one hand (it near enough means you can't, because of your palm or lower finger/thumb)
c) Any case or protection that one would want for the phone has a problem of not being able to wrap at the sides to create better grip to the unit.
2. Curved screen. Most curved screens work from a convergence angle based of the "average" eye distance in use. I think the curves are just too much for a device of this size. I personally only see a need and or advantage for screens of 15" + to be curved.
3. The volume/power button arrangement seems inconsistant with the actual design flow of the phone. Me personally would have them following the profile of the phone (curved)
4. Front speaker position not being centered would mean the use of the phone as a phone would require you to hold it at a rather odd angle for optimal function. Thats why most ear speaker outs are centered with sensors / camera surrounding them.
5. Depth/feel I could imagine this phone if held would be almost as annoying to me as an iphone4, maybe more. The angled edges and depth mean it would feel more like a slab of metal than something I would be using every day.
Just a few thoughts for an "angry" Yorkshireman
Cup holder!
Lol, sorry couldn't resist.
Make it contoured for a natural feel.
Decent aspect ratio for gaming/movies
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Right, so I'm taking all of your ideas into play (sorry no cup holders though )
I'll post back in a bit with 3 new, different, concepts. If you could vote on them it will be most appreciated.
FYI: This is initially for fun but if there is enough interest I might try to release a couple of low end working phones to the market.
If you did release a version of your phone how much do you expect it to be to a consumer?
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eoghan2t7 said:
If you did release a version of your phone how much do you expect it to be to a consumer?
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Depending on what i did for the guts; somewhere between £150 and £250
Rule 1: no rectangular shape.
Rule 2: no rectangular home button.
Or be prepared to be sued.
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Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Xiaomi Mi 5's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
it's loud, but on max volume there's a lot of distortion, contacted Xiaomi, they sayed that's normal (i don't think so, maybe faulty batch, mine's 64GB white one). Overall, loud, but not clear enough.
How is the sound quality through 3.5mm jack?
killbox said:
How is the sound quality through 3.5mm jack?
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Great and loud, loudest from all phones i had. Check gsmarena review for more details
Anybody tried to cover one of the speakerphone holes? I've tried mine, and sounds from the left ones are small compared to the right ones. I looked into the holes, and it seems that something covered the left holes from the inside. I've attached a picture of it.
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Anybody tried to cover one of the speakerphone holes? I've tried mine, and sounds from the left ones are small compared to the right ones. I looked into the holes, and it seems that something covered the left holes from the inside. I've attached a picture of it.
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same for my phone, seems to be normal
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Anybody tried to cover one of the speakerphone holes? I've tried mine, and sounds from the left ones are small compared to the right ones. I looked into the holes, and it seems that something covered the left holes from the inside. I've attached a picture of it.
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the left hole probably contains mic and no speaker and also for symmetry
loud and clear
loud and beautiful
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The speakerphone is very loud and clear, it's amazing to have the combination of both
In test the loudspeaker is quiet good
Source: G******A
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Anybody tried to cover one of the speakerphone holes? I've tried mine, and sounds from the left ones are small compared to the right ones. I looked into the holes, and it seems that something covered the left holes from the inside. I've attached a picture of it.
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Hey mate,
That is not the speaker hole. That hole for the mic and this phone comes with the single speaker (just mono not like stereo).
Headphone
I have no problem with the speakerphone sound, but the headphone out could be a lot better, lots of background noise with sensitive in ear monitors. That said, other "flaships" like the LG G2 suffer from the same problem...
Which ROM are you using? Do you have VoLTE in your country?
I am using CM 13.0-20161211-NIGHTLY.
The speakerphone sound is pretty loud and clear, but my friends tell me my mic is pretty bad while I'm using the speakerphone.
I think my problem is ROM dependent rather than a hardware defect.
I am planning to revert to MIUI soon, I will keep you posted.
I got crackling and broken loudspeaker, tried to flash another ROM but the issue persisted :crying:
I flashed MIUI Global Stable ROM.
The speakerphone now works fine on phone calls.
I still got issues on Skype calls though (it occurs only on Skype).
i got htc one m8 now, and planning to upgrade to this phone, what do i need to expect about sound quality?
strikereg said:
I have no problem with the speakerphone sound, but the headphone out could be a lot better, lots of background noise with sensitive in ear monitors. That said, other "flaships" like the LG G2 suffer from the same problem...
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I'm afraid it's your headphones mate. The phone is very clear and proper tests (through GSMarena) show that it has the lowest distortion of any phone on the market (conparable to Sabre DACs), not to mention it's decently loud too, something phones like the G2 can't boast. That said, I didn't like the sound signature (how the output is shaped), so I replaced the audio driver with Viper4Android and disabled Xiaomi's driver altogether. I suggest you try that and see if that works for you?
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I'm afraid it's your headphones mate. The phone is very clear and proper tests (through GSMarena) show that it has the lowest distortion of any phone on the market (conparable to Sabre DACs), not to mention it's decently loud too, something phones like the G2 can't boast. That said, I didn't like the sound signature (how the output is shaped), so I replaced the audio driver with Viper4Android and disabled Xiaomi's driver altogether. I suggest you try that and see if that works for you?
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In a way it really is the headphones, for being such good IEM
They cost more than the Xiaomi Mi5. Problem is, good IEM are generally very sensitive, so they need a good quality source, with no background noise.
Sorry but it the Mi5 really has bad sound quality. Way worse that any iPhone.
I've given up and went and bought an IPhone 7. No problems there, of course.
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In a way it really is the headphones, for being such good IEM
They cost more than the Xiaomi Mi5. Problem is, good IEM are generally very sensitive, so they need a good quality source, with no background noise.
Sorry but it the Mi5 really has bad sound quality. Way worse that any iPhone.
I've given up and went and bought an IPhone 7. No problems there, of course.
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I also prefer IEMs for their sound quality. Which ones do you use? Also, check out this website and run the tests, it's quite fun and revealing: http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php
See the attached screenshot. There shouldn't be an audible distortion difference between the Mi 5 and iPhone. And unlike the iPhone, you can actually change the audio driver to suit your preference.
Edit: Looking at the numbers you can see that the Mi 5 has quicker frequency response, lower noise level, higher dynamic range, less harmonic distortion, less intermodulation distortion, and less stereo crosstalk than an iPhone 6s. There is not a single thing you can measure where the iPhone does better yet you call the Mi 5 "way worse". I don't have an iPhone on me so I can't verify it myself, but output should be identical.
I got my Pixel 3XL device yesterday and it seems to me that the quality of the front facing speakers is much worse than previous generations. My Nexus 6P had better front speakers. The top and bottom speakers are clearly very different. The top speaker is basically just sound from an earpiece speaker and sounds tinny and not very loud. The bottom speaker is more bassy but muffled. I wanted to know if it's just my unit or anyone else noticed the same. Maybe the regular Pixel 3 is better? The speaker grilles look symmetric on that device.
Thanks!
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The top speaker on both the Pixel 2 and Pixel 3 series does not get as loud or have as much bass as the bottom speaker. They also sound less warm in tone than the 6P, but some have assumed the waterproofing mesh that is used contributes to this.
notifications sound terrible. they only come out one speaker so its not loud and sounds like crap. why in the world would google make it so that only one speaker is used for notifications?? other then that they are fantastic
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I got my Pixel 3XL device yesterday and it seems to me that the quality of the front facing speakers is much worse than previous generations. My Nexus 6P had better front speakers. The top and bottom speakers are clearly very different. The top speaker is basically just sound from an earpiece speaker and sounds tinny and not very loud. The bottom speaker is more bassy but muffled. I wanted to know if it's just my unit or anyone else noticed the same. Maybe the regular Pixel 3 is better? The speaker grilles look symmetric on that device.
Thanks!
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This is a wide spread issue. Hopefully Google jumps on this quickly. I think they could easily fix them in a software update.
TheAtheistOtaku said:
notifications sound terrible. they only come out one speaker so its not loud and sounds like crap. why in the world would google make it so that only one speaker is used for notifications?? other then that they are fantastic
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It's been like this for most dual speaker phones. Every HTC , Pixel, and Sony dual speaker phone I've had only uses notifications and call speaker through the bottom speaker. I'm surprised people are just now noticing this. I started a thread on the pixel 2 forum nearly a year ago asking if anyone found a mod to enable the second speaker for notifications and speaker phone calls. Short answer, no.
I am sure we can find a solution by editing the right XML files in the root system directory.
My note 9 sounds better. May have to return this baby as the speakers and camera are my main reason for switching and I don't think either are better.
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I have both the Pixel 3 and 3 XL, the smaller Pixel 3 do sound much better than the XL. The XL sounds muffled and not as clear compared to the smaller Pixel 3.
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I have both the Pixel 3 and 3 XL, the smaller Pixel 3 do sound much better than the XL. The XL sounds muffled and not as clear compared to the smaller Pixel 3.
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Figures. Last year the small Pixel had a better screen, so Google fixed that this year. Now they screwed up the speakers. What's next? Oh well, once we get root we can fix the sound. I feel sorry for the Verizon Pixel owners, they won't be able to do anything about the sound.
In the interim, could try this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devdnua.equalizer.free
Disable musicfx and play with the eq a bit. It's the best option til root is available.
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In the interim, could try this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devdnua.equalizer.free
Disable musicfx and play with the eq a bit. It's the best option til root is available.
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Does this run in the background and drain battery much??
synplex said:
Does this run in the background and drain battery much??
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I havent noticed any extra drain. 4hr sot at 53% since
I don't have any way to quantify this, but I think that there might be a break in period for the speakers. While they remain unbalanced in volume output between top and bottom speakers, the clarity, quality and distortion have all improved greatly. The distortion seems to be gone and I no longer can hear any "fuzziness" in the audio. And when watching videos, people speaking is much more clear and understandable. Like I said, this could just be my perception but I'm very pleased by this considering the very rough start with this phone.
All that said, my iPhone still sounds better on balance. But that doesn't really surprise me as Apple has been in the music game far longer.
I Googled it and Google says speakers do have a break in period. Maybe the speakers will sound better the longer they're used. I don't know if it's true or not but you can Google it and read what I did.
Listen to this video around half volume. Listen to your bottom speaker.
Can you tell when holding the phone 12 or more inches away from your face? I am pretty sure that is the use case the sound was engineered for... I can't but my hearing sucks.
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Huh, I use speakerphone all the time and I think it sounds great. Also sounds fine to me with videos and that sort of thing where dialog is clear and relatively natural sounding. You folks talking about music playback over the speakers?
Edit... Ok, never mind. Just listened to music through the speakers and that does have sort of a muffled quality to it. I cant compare it because I never use my phones to play music through the speakers but I'm guessing it's usually more clear.
I dont like the imbalance especially since my pixel 2 xl doesn't have it granted the 3 xl speakers have better quality then the 2 XL . i can hear the one side much louder making the other one almost not heard at all because the one side just over powers it
This may not be a sound issue, as a notification issue. I noticed that if you play the notification sound from the settings menu, it sounds clearer, than when it's used in a notification. Anyone else want to try and see if they hear the same?
In general, there is some truth to improved sound after speaker break-in. It's normal high end speaker manufacturer education to consumers.
Hello guys,
I noticed something weird with my new Pixel 3A:
The sound is very low when it's set between 0 and ~75%, and start to become louud only at the end (like 80% and more). But when the audio is set on maximum, the sound is kind of weird... like there is too much "bass", not natural... I don't know how to describe it.
Am I the only one? Is your Pixel 3a audio weak except at maximum?
Thanks
Check out this thread: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/1483051?hl=en (expand to see all replies). One person reported this for 3a and another for 3a XL
All my sounds in general are very low
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Check out this thread: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/1483051?hl=en (expand to see all replies). One person reported this for 3a and another for 3a XL
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OMG! Thanks for the link. This could be a deal breaker. Strange, though that one poster said he didn't have the issue on Oreo. One reported issue started after 6 mos but didn't link it to OS upgrade. My white 3a is coming from B&H on "1st come" as the inventory replenishes so it could be weeks before it arrives.
Never had a Pixel ($$$) but had every Nexus device (phones and tablets) since GNex--which I kept because of hdmi out. Generally, issues with the phones, but the our last three (N9, 5X, and 6P) had serious hardware issues. LG fixed one 5X --twice; we replaced battery in 6P which revitalized that device. N9 became hopeless. Am wishing for better with the 3a (like the N5--which I'm still using as a device--not phone). The 3a reminded me of the N5 which I really loved as a daily driver.
Please, posters, chime in if you've found this issue, too. TIA.
I've noticed that my ringer and notifications are what's low, the call volume and media seem loud. Not sure what's going on
In fact, I don't care if it's software, I just wanted to know if I have a defect unit...
I will never buy a smartphone with updates not directly from Google again, so I don't care about some software issue, I will always buy Pixels. But my only problem is to know if it's only my device or not. .
Yes, the volume for all things for me is quite low until you get past ~75% like you said.
cjbr0wn said:
Yes, the volume for all things for me is quite low until you get past ~75% like you said.
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Thanks for confirming it's not only my device
It's weird, why Google did that? It's like the 100% sound is like 3x or 4x louder than 50-60%! But my maths say to me (correct me if I'm wrong) 50-60% should be half less than 100%.
Today I finally had a chance to play with 3a that was connected to the network and I experienced low volume at about 50% for YouTube playback. In-call volume for conversation seemed OK but I was not able to check ringtone because phone was not accepting incoming calls.
sorry do you mean the loudspeakers or with headphones? or in-call? sound levels seem fairly normal for me i'm afraid, the audio quality is not great but i've punched it up with ViPER. made a call last night and didn't notice the in-call volume being unusual. my alarm was loud this morning. loudspeaker sound quality also not great but that doesn't really affect me.
Viper works without root?
smartuser8 said:
Viper works without root?
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We have root
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Do you know one good and safe non-root equalizer app ? Thanks
One guy (on the above linked google page) realized it was the plastic protective cover that the phone came with. It was covering the speaker hole (one of the stereo speakers is located behind the earpiece hole - they are not BOTH at the bottom of the phone). He removed the plastic cover and the sound volume was fine.
So make sure you have removed the plastic and that any screen protector you might have installed doesn't cover the speaker!
Mine seems pretty good--loud. My hearing is very sensitive, though. Brightness, otoh, is sub-par--or calibrated differently. 70% on my 3a = 30% on N5X.
Yeah that's what I mean... At max the audio is like other phones, but at 70 it's lower... Weird calibration.
Hey all, I've been playing around with my phone and I'm not sure if I'm the only one but only one "side" of the cutout actually plays sound. Is anyone else encountering this?
Wdenton said:
Hey all, I've been playing around with my phone and I'm not sure if I'm the only one but only one "side" of the cutout actually plays sound. Is anyone else encountering this?
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That's the way it works. The other hole is only for optical balance. You have the top speaker which is front firing and one bottom speaker which is down firing
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jmtjr278 said:
That's the way it works. The other hole is only for optical balance. You have the top speaker which is front firing and one bottom speaker which is down firing
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I believe the other hole is actually a mic. This is VERY common in phones with a single bottom firing speaker.
I noticed the Pixel 3a isn't 'really' stereo. I feel like it's mono sound but with 2 speakers for boost the audio.
I don't know if you guys noticed that, when you watch a video or listen podcast... if you put your finger and your block the audio from a speaker, and you do the same thing with the other speaker, the audio isn't the same, there is like 'low freq" (bass?) coming from the bottom, and 'high freq' (normal) coming from the top speaker.
I mean... when you test that with your finger and put the phone near to your ear, you will notice the audio from both speakers is not the same at all, it's weird...
EDIT: I was wondering if I'm the crazy guy who se weird things or issues everywhere but after some research I found I'm not the only one who noticed that, we have the confirmation in the Unbox Therapy video about Pixel 3a:
https://youtu.be/3mlMq3pQyt8?t=687
"It's NOT a stereo implementation. They called that but in reality most of the low-end is coming from here, some high-end is coming from here..."
Did you noticed that guys?
Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.
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Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.
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It's a spycam....no, just kidding, just kidding - it was reported to be a 3rd microphone for cutting out any background noise.
I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
A *white* hole?
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the Universe; a white hole returns it.
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Some say a mic and some say a small speaker, waiting on reviews now
kxdaorbit said:
Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.
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The bigger cutout on top is a speaker as well as at the bottom of the phone.
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The bigger cutout on top is a speaker as well as at the bottom of the phone.
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Sorry, maybe my question wasn't as clear as it could have been.
I was questioning the cutout on top of the phone, next to the sim tray hole. Since found out that it's another microphone, used in the 'sound focus' (or zoom sound) feature.
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Sorry, maybe my question wasn't as clear as it could have been.
I was questioning the cutout on top of the phone, next to the sim tray hole. Since found out that it's another microphone, used in the 'sound focus' (or zoom sound) feature.
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I understood you correctly. Next to the sim tray hole to me is the speaker. The device to my knowledge has stereo speakers, as S10, but since the earpiece cutout is so small, I don't think Samsung would make it a speaker as it is on S10.
One mic is on top, another one is at the bottom and another one(Sound focus mic?) is located next to the 3 camera lenses(on the edge of the camera housing/frame) - can't find that video that showed the location of the mic next to cameras
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I understood you correctly. Next to the sim tray hole to me is the speaker. The device to my knowledge has stereo speakers, as S10, but since the earpiece cutout is so small, I don't think Samsung would make it a speaker as it is on S10.
One mic is on top, another one is at the bottom and another one(Sound focus mic?) is located next to the 3 camera lenses(on the edge of the camera housing/frame) - can't find that video that showed the location of the mic next to cameras
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Sorry dude, the video you're talking about doesn't exist, there's no mic next to or anywhere near the camera array.
The cutout in question is absolutely a mic, and the earpiece does indeed doubles as the secondary speaker.
Microphone
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try this ....
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-new-features/
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try this ....
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-new-features/
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This is getting more confusing by the minute, even Sammobile seem confused, having updated their story on this twice already.
Some Youtube reviewers saying yes, others saying no, a lot of fake news floating around this feature.
Will just have to wait till I hold it in my own 2 (or is it 3?) hands.
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This is getting more confusing by the minute, even Sammobile seem confused, having updated their story on this twice already.
Some Youtube reviewers saying yes, others saying no, a lot of fake news floating around this feature.
Will just have to wait till I hold it in my own 2 (or is it 3?) hands.
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I was in Best Buy store and did try opening YouTube to hear the speakers. So the earpiece and the top hole are both speakers. Also on the white color(easier to spot), there is a small slit in the side of the 3 cameras frame(closed to the side where flash is) - I think it is the zoom mic
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I was in Best Buy store and did try opening YouTube to hear the speakers. So the earpiece and the top hole are both speakers. Also on the white color(easier to spot), there is a small slit in the side of the 3 cameras frame(closed to the side where flash is) - I think it is the zoom mic
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You're right, there now seems to be a consensus amongst the early reviewers, and posts by 'XDA' members such as yourself, who've seen it in person.
The mic in the camera frame slit is such an elegant work of engineering, that I can't understand why 'Samsung' wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops, but yet it's nowhere mentioned in marketing or spec infographics.
I do wonder though whether it impacts (however slightly) on the waterproofing of the device, maybe the reason it didn't achieve the IP69 rating as earlier touted?
Apologies for my dismissal of your earlier post, you were right all along.
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You're right, there now seems to be a consensus amongst the early reviewers, and posts by 'XDA' members such as yourself, who've seen it in person.
The mic in the camera frame slit is such an elegant work of engineering, that I can't understand why 'Samsung' wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops, but yet it's nowhere mentioned in marketing or spec infographics.
I do wonder though whether it impacts (however slightly) on the waterproofing of the device, maybe the reason it didn't achieve the IP69 rating as earlier touted?
Apologies for my dismissal of your earlier post, you were right all along.
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I was curious too about the speaker placement and mic's location when Samsung unveiled devices. I wanted the top hole to be IR Blaster, but at least we get nicer sound. I doubt the earpiece slit would be enough to act as an upper speaker, but they Samsung came up with the idea of making additional hole on top Oh and I do remember some years ago when Nokia came out with zoom mic in their phone, the mics pointed towards the object, so that might explain why Samsung had to make a slit in the camera frame. Now that I have seen Note 10 in person, I am happy that I pre-ordered it. I don't think I would have done it if Samsung wouldn't offer $600 trade in for my S10e. I really don't like the idea of buying expensive phones, let alone replace them every year.
There's 3 microphones :
- top
- bottom
- in the bevel of the camera.