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I've noticed, when I install twitter/facebook that the Z3 seems to get excited and mention some sony app or other. And there's a weather app which just updated itself but I've not used or bothered to look for. I've gone around and uninstalled all the pre-installed apps which can actually be uninstalled (some can't) but I'm not sure what these ones are.
Does anyone know what I'm talking about, and can add anything here? Is there a definitive guide to all of Sony's added software, what's good/bad, what can be stopped/disabled etc without harm?
I've been considering to upgrade a Z5 from using a LG G3 for over a year and have somehow grown attached to root for various uses.
I've read some post here and there and seems like it comes down to having to unlock your bootloader. I do understand that SONY provides OEM unlocking of bootloader but does it do the DRM thing that most people are complaining about? And what are the limitations of this lack of DRM thing?
Anyone can help to advice? I don't really need to flash roms and stuff, just root access and maybe kernal flashing will do but is it that flexiblee?
Z5 is rootable, but you must first to unlock your bootloader (if your device is unlockable).
See here for detailed explainations.
By unlocking, you will lost your DRM keys and some functionalities, but they can be recovered (the functionalities) by applying this patch.
Good luck!
Loosing DRM device key you'll loose Sony camera image optimizations, Sony X-reality engine, use of some Sony apps and other things you can find in various topics. We have a patch nowadays (thanks to a great developer), to simulate DRM key but there are still 2 problems:
- Sony warranty is VOID when DRM keys are deleted. In some Countries, depending on laws, you might still be protected, but generally if you have hardware problems you'll have to pay yourself for repair service (or hire a lawyer).
- We'll always need a patch for future android versions (and someone working on it, hoping that Sony does not prevent the method completely)
Hello, anyone installed modded Google camera at XZ Premium?
It doesn't work, it requires Camera2 API (I think full mode) which is not supported by the XZp.
I read somewhere that SONY uses a modified version of the API which is why it causes the Google Camera app to crash.
https://source.android.com/devices/camera/versioning
This explains everything. But I am not quite sure which one Sony actually using. AFAIK it's legacy.
Edit: Yes it is Legacy.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/04/2...capture-in-future-if-there-is-popular-demand/
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Software-Updates/Camera2-API/m-p/974754#M21577
I read that we can custom enable camera2api, but from recovery mode, anyone tried it?
Thing is there's an issue with the camera with unlocked bootloader. They're working on a DRM fix for unlocked bootloader.
But what's this custom enable cameraAPI2? cause I really wanna enable that so we get full control over. But I highly doubt we will be able to.
chesterr said:
Thing is there's an issue with the camera with unlocked bootloader. They're working on a DRM fix for unlocked bootloader.
But what's this custom enable cameraAPI2? cause I really wanna enable that so we get full control over. But I highly doubt we will be able to.
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This is guide how to enable camera2api, but you need twrp to install this.
I tryed to install this Google camera apk http://www.androidapksfree.com/apk/google-camera-latest-apk-download/
It works but sux a lot
The clearest sample photo quality is from sony app, the other is from Google camera apk
ex3meex said:
I tryed to install this Google camera apk http://www.androidapksfree.com/apk/google-camera-latest-apk-download/
It works but sux a lot
The clearest sample photo quality is from sony app, the other is from Google camera apk
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I think this is not modded google camera with Hdr+
Shako1993 said:
I read that we can custom enable camera2api, but from recovery mode, anyone tried it?
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Yes, it instantly crashes.
So if you have phone rooted and u want to install camera 2 api with some guides about it, on the xzp will not work properly? For works it must have a modded camera 2 api from xda develpers?
Edit: and if we install magisk and the relative camera 2 api module?
1) https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
2) https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-camera2api-enabler-t3656651
ex3meex said:
So if you have phone rooted and u want to install camera 2 api with some guides about it, on the xzp will not work properly? For works it must have a modded camera 2 api from xda develpers?
Edit: and if we install magisk and the relative camera 2 api module?
1) https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
2) https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-camera2api-enabler-t3656651
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We have already discussed and tried it over here.
But there is a magisk update released on 6 September
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...systemless-t3473445/post73690093#post73690093
If I'm wrong, sorry for all I'm only trying to be helpful
The camera2 api is enabled by default (it was on my device) on XZP, but they limited the functionality for 3rd-party apps. RAW is not supported and the resolution is limited @ 8,3MP (back) and @ 13MP (front). I didn't found a way to brake the limits. I have no idea if it's possible.
Not all 3rd party apps are limited. FV-5 (force legacy drivers), open camera, a better camera, Camera ZOOM FX
Google open sources deeplap v3 technology
Hey guys Google open sources deeplap v3 in github
Can anyone use this repository and create a camera mod for Xperia XZ Premium if possible??.
Waiting for developer to respond,
Thanks in advance
Hi KGV! you made my Day!
The devs here on Sony's XDA either are paid by Sony, either Sony's employees, either lazy, either they have bought Samsung phones, either Sony really encrypted their software.
Don't expect something like this.
Hat down for Storm, Turbo and Munjeni.
Inerent said:
Hi KGV! you made my Day!
The devs here on Sony's XDA either are paid by Sony, either Sony's employees, either lazy, either they have bought Samsung phones, either Sony really encrypted their software.
Don't expect something like this.
Hat down for Storm, Turbo and Munjeni.
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Dude but what can we do for portrait mode??
It would be awesome if it works
(Don't say me to edit pics in snapseed nor picsart for portrait)
I am not a big fan of portrait mode, but I really think Sony's Bionz camera software is better than Google HDR + at least for our sensor.
Instead of running for fantasies, maybe you try to learn how our Bionz works. You wont be dissapointed.
Now a good thing will be to port XZ2 camera to our XZP.
Google is our friends and they're are tons of patched Google camera mods out there. I am currently running it with aosp
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Google is our friends and they're are tons of patched Google camera mods out there. I am currently running it with aosp
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Which one are you using i tried different cameras and still not working
I'm to flash aosp 8.1 in order to use Google Camera HDR+, but it seems like there's still no complete TA or DRM backup for XZP
I googled for this, and there was one post that says to be DRM backup for XZP, but participants of that post say it's just a partial backup of TA partition, and not a complete backup.
Does anyone know if DRM backup for XZP released?
I know there's DRM patch for XZP, but not having to bypass DRM and get full backup of DRM might be way better.
im not sure there is but most likely not.
its not about better or worse,the patch works the same as restoring original backed up DRM. but then again if you want to relock/unroot you dont have the original DRM and you will not have a working camera, so in my opinion once rooted youre stuck...
but there are stock roms that have drm fixed and you will not notice any difference than official sony fw if you do its probably an advantage over the official fw as it is more optimized and smoother (thats why they made them XD)
another disappointment by sony....
having 120hz screen that we have no access to, neither perfectly working native 4k at all time, camera has potential that is not fully used in stock camera app.
all these features are there but we cant access them I dont know whats the point then, root could be the option to use such splendid features but then again, warranty is gone
so thanks to sony if we want to use the full potential of their creation we have to compromise to warranty and stock functionality.
only one type of people would create such features that are usless - money hungry advertisers who only care about money rather than customer's happiness
I mean if I ever create a device, I would never release it out there without its full potential functioning in the best way possible, like HTC. ( maybe HTC is not the best in some point of views of people but you get what they promise).
Hi,
i have read here in Forum about android pie and i cant find my answer for myself.
Is it possible to Flash rooted pie on xzp with restore the drm keys?
i know the camera is workin on pie's root, but what is with the other Issues?
Is there any Solution out there?
Best Regards
Sc0rp1on said:
Is it possible to Flash rooted pie on xzp with restore the drm keys?
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No, you can't do anything to resotre lost keys, not unless you made a backup of them first. You can fool the phone that the DRM is in place, but that's different to restoring them.
You can unlock you phone and put a custom rom on there, there are some Pie threads here on XDA, eXistenZ Pie, or LineageOS. But getting these to work isn't a simple download the rom and install it. You need to follow the instructions on the Sony unlock, then install TWRP, which will give you the ability to flash roms and recoverys.
It might be worth sticking to a stock rom and using janjan's kernel, wich will fix any DRM problems and give you compatability with Magisk
Yes, the camera does work on Pie, even with bootloader uinlocked, but there are some other features that remain disabled, but nothing important.
Thx for Reply. My Old XZP has unlocked Bootloader, Oreo Rooted within DRM Patch from XperiFix. But now, the Display is broken and the Phone is dead.
I have buy the Same Model (Locked & Fresh) and want to remove System Apps , have Root and eventually Pie. But i want to have all functions like unrooted and hoped that the time brings out new Methods for that.
I have read here, that the camera Quality gets down on pie root.
Now my Hope / Question:
Pie + Root within DRM Features (Fooled DRM is ok also) or should i Flash Oreo and use Xperi Fix again, like my old one?
Sc0rp1on said:
Thx for Reply. My Old XZP has unlocked Bootloader, Oreo Rooted within DRM Patch from XperiFix. But now, the Display is broken and the Phone is dead.
I have buy the Same Model (Locked & Fresh) and want to remove System Apps , have Root and eventually Pie. But i want to have all functions like unrooted and hoped that the time brings out new Methods for that.
I have read here, that the camera Quality gets down on pie root.
Now my Hope / Question:
Pie + Root within DRM Features (Fooled DRM is ok also) or should i Flash Oreo and use Xperi Fix again, like my old one?
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Pie or Oreo is a personal choice and you'll get people batting for both sides on the forum here.
You can stick with what you know, or go with stock Pie and use janjan's kernel, that will get you Pie build with DRM fix.
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Pie or Oreo is a personal choice and you'll get people batting for both sides on the forum here.
You can stick with what you know, or go with stock Pie and use janjan's kernel, that will get you Pie build with DRM fix.
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Thx for Answer.
I have read the thread about the kernel and pie and i cant find Information for camera Quality (i have read pie root make camera Quality bad) and about the Screen-Modus (Superlebendig / Professional/ Standard). My old Oreo Rooted One was running perfect, but i would try pie, only if i can get sure, that cam and Display works like stock Rom.
I hope you understand my english and my wishes
Sc0rp1on said:
Thx for Answer.
I have read the thread about the kernel and pie and i cant find Information for camera Quality (i have read pie root make camera Quality bad) and about the Screen-Modus (Superlebendig / Professional/ Standard). My old Oreo Rooted One was running perfect, but i would try pie, only if i can get sure, that cam and Display works like stock Rom.
I hope you understand my english and my wishes
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The camera on the Sony works perfect or it doesn't (takes green pictures), it's a myth that there is some sort of half way 'poor' quality.
There is no degradation of camera quality with rooted Pie no DRM, if you think that might be a problem then use a 'fixed' rom or kernel.
Try Pie and if you think that the camera is broken, then go back to Oreo
Didgesteve said:
The camera on the Sony works perfect or it doesn't (takes green pictures), it's a myth that there is some sort of half way 'poor' quality.
There is no degradation of camera quality with rooted Pie no DRM, if you think that might be a problem then use a 'fixed' rom or kernel.
Try Pie and if you think that the camera is broken, then go back to Oreo
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@Sc0rp1on, @Didgesteve, in my opinion, it is totally worth to backup and restore locked TA to preserve drm keys, if just only in order to be on the safe side.
The unlock procedure erases all userdata anyway, similarly as when you do downgrade to exploitable oreo...
Anyway, I am not sure about the camera quality - is it really a myth? Please see here for few pictures comparisons where differences are visible. You may visit the linked posts too for more opinions / previous discussions.
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@Sc0rp1on, @Didgesteve, in my opinion, it is totally worth to backup and restore locked TA to preserve drm keys, if just only in order to be on the safe side.
The unlock procedure erases all userdata anyway, similarly as when you do downgrade to exploitable oreo...
Anyway, I am not sure about the camera quality - is it really a myth? Please see here for few pictures comparisons where differences are visible. You may visit the linked posts too for more opinions / previous discussions.
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I wouldn't advocate anyone unlock thier phone without backing up the TA partition. but I was replying to a question.
I can't see any difference in the pictures myself and I think if there were a difference more would have been said about it.
Myself I was an early jumper and unlocked my phone before backup and restore of the DRM keys was possible, so that rather shaped which version of firmware I use. I didn't step to Pie, I stuck with Oreo and a 'fix' that keeps everything sweet.
@Didgesteve, it's not easy to do a good comparison - only those who have two phones or at least have a locked _and_ unlocked TA backup of one phone could try. Although many complain about camera quality in general.
But as you could see in the linked "xz1c locked oreo vs unlocked pie comparison" post I tried to compare having two xz1 compact phones side by side, one still locked and one with lost drm keys.
And comparing the not downsized original photo images you can clearly see some differences - which are cut to attached pictures so you can find them easier in the original files available for download.
It could have been a coincidence, but it's have been done two times in a row switching the order of the phones getting very similar results of quality difference in each trial.
So in my opinion, it might be a myth or may not.
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[MENTION=4354390]So in my opinion, it might be a myth or may not.
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It may or may not, but no one else seems to have noticed.
If you think it makes a difference then use Janjan's kernel with built in 'fix'
@Didgesteve, that "no one else seems to have noticed" - a rather big assumption of yours. There are many users complaining about xzp/xz1/xz1c camera quality in general.
But just with regard to oreo vs pie, read the xzp thread from here: post#27, particularly post#30 contains very interesting internal stuff.
I would like to believe sony stopped conditioning camera with keeping bootloader locked with pie but somehow I am not sure about that at all considering all the circumstances and my linked camera quality comparison test.
Thanks for your advice, luckily I do not need janjan's kernels as I've implemented the TA backup exploit, so both my phones can have drm keys restored (in fact one of them is still locked on purpose).
I (and anybody who saved TA-unlocked.img together with TA-locked.img) can switch easily between "drm keys restored" and "drm keys lost" states for testing/comparisons.
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@Didgesteve, that "no one else seems to have noticed" - a rather big assumption of yours. There are many users complaining about xzp/xz1/xz1c camera quality in general......
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I have 3 xz premiums running pie in my household. My wifes - never unlocked. Mine - unlocked with no ta backup. And a third one which I acquired cheaply recently - unlocked with restored original ta backup running a kernel with @j4nn's commits which hides bootloader unlock status.
The photo quality appears similar on all three devices. Maybe closer scrutiny on a pc will reveal differences.
However restoring original ta with blu hide kernel will always be the optimal solution regardless of camera quality due to the fact that it also restores widevine L1 functions (eg: screen mirroring etc.)
@shoey63, that's right, on phone's display, differences are probably not visible.
But if not zoomed out images are compared on PC, you may see some differences as my test showed.
Most people just take a quick shot to post it on a social network, there you cannot see a difference at all, as the image gets downscaled automatically - so majority may not complain.
Anyway that "restoring original ta with blu hide kernel will always be the optimal solution" is right - should behave as much as in still locked state as we can get.
Mentioning screen mirroring - does it depend on drm too in case of pie?
I tested it with oreo and it needed TA-locked restored with bootloader unlock hidden to get it working - running just kernel hiding BL unlock with lost drm keys is not enough with oreo.
I cannot test it anymore and I wonder if it still depends on drm keys with pie too or if sony dropped that dependency similarly as making camera somehow working instead of green pictures with pie.
@j4nn
Screen mirroring still is reliant on drm keys on Pie.
It won't connect with unlocked bootloader and stock kernel.
However with restored TA backup and blu hide kernel it connects without issue.
The problem with screen mirroring is just the use of HDCP.
You can disable it with persist.debug.wfd.enable=1 or persist.debug.wfd.appmonitoring=1