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I downloaded the .7z file for JustHome rom for Herald thanks to IVAN!. My IPL is 4.10.0002 and SPL 4.10.0000, I have a microSD ship and ready for action. I just need the walkthrough for installing ROMs from scratch. How do I do the hardspl....I need complete guidance!
You need to search better.
there is a "giude to flashing" in one of these theads that is specific to the htc herald which is the name for you "wing" i thing you might find it under "wiki htc herald " you can probably google it. it is a step by step guide. hope that helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358615 goodluck
I apologize now for the lack of clear answers, and I understand your frustration, even if you did search and read those pages. Sometimes for newbs they can be a bit difficult to understand, and they were for me too, so I'll tell you how in newb language and provide the tools necessary.
First things first, you need to download the folder im going to provide you. Save the zip to your desktop and extract it. Now the fun begins.
1. Drag and extract the .nbh file you downloaded from JustHome and place it inside the RUU folder located inside of the MyFirstRom folder.
2. Turn your phone to flight mode. You can do this in the Comm Manager found in your Connection Settings.
3. Next make sure your phone is connected to your computer and you have Activesync (Win XP) or Mobile Device Center (Vista or Windows 7) connected with a green light.
4. Execute the application Herald-USPL (located in the MyFirstRom folder).
5. Wait for it to verify, press Enter. Wait for it to load SPL, PDA screen will go white at about 70 percent. If it doesn't and it hangs on a tux logo with a little command prompt (on the phone, sometimes this happens.) don't worry and just reset and try again.
6.If everything is successful and the PDA screen is white, press Enter and it'll launch the RUU installer application on your computer.
7. Follow the instructions, Press the Update button when it asks you what ROM you are installing. It should show some version number. Press Next, and it'll start flashing. It will say it will take 10 minutes, it'll go faster than that. After it's finished, the PDA will automatically reset to the new RUU.
If you experience any problems, don't panic, Soft Reset your device by pushing the stylus into the small whole next to the volume slider. If the phone goes into an endless reset, don't panic... Hard reset your phone by pressing holding the two soft-keys (keys with lines located above the Windows key and Ok key) while pressing the sylus into the reset hole. Release the soft keys while still holding reset and then release the reset. It will come up with a screen telling you you are being set to factory settings, press the Send key. (Green phone key)
I know you asked about HardSPL, but for the purpose of this ROM and some others, you won't need it. I prefer USPL because there's not a very easy way to brick your phone. If something goes terribly wrong, generally you can just Hard Reset and its all better.
Good luck, and I'm not liable for any damage to your phones OS or hardware, blah...
that was cool of you to take the time and post all that.wish i had that all explained to me when i started messin around.
bishoprnpb said:
that was cool of you to take the time and post all that.wish i had that all explained to me when i started messin around.
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Yeah, I just recently got started after buying a Wing a few weeks ago on E-Bay. I understand the frustration, and frankly I feel bad for new people... A lot of these threads are so out-dated now, and no one seems to want to help new people any more, with the exception of maybe Ivan who is working on a whole cooking guide. And the past instructions can get a little fuzzy. Even on the second post of Ivan's instructions it says to ask questions if you don't understand, but it seems like questions are just getting answered with more and more links to sites like Google.
Thank for step by step
Now I flash my dopodC800 to ITsPapablack but every time I reset, it's not show SPL
today I will flash again to "gulllums Touchflo2D II"
can I use same step?
What's the fastest way to get specific help at User forums?
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so I'll tell you how in newb language and provide the tools necessary.
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You are right that many MANY threads are now obsolete, or have conflicting language & directions. Can I suggest that you edit your post to give it an explanatory title, so that it can be indexed by the search engine of this site, as well as by google? That way others may find your very post, which helps them bridge the gaps.
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That was good of you to take the time to help. In truth though, many many people help similarly. One of the problems is that the site serves so many different model phones, and so many ROM variations, that the site Admins really try (emphasis on TRY !) to segregate the "I need help with xxxxxx, please help!" threads to their new "Questions and Answers" forum, and keep each phone's ROM threads free of any threads that are not USER CONTRIBUTIONS to "hacking & development".
The problem is circular, though. I'm an information designer so I am often amazed that sometimes site "veterans" forget very easily the idea that for a new user "you don't know what you don't know until you get your toes wet"... then you get slapped around for not following the rules. But at same time, many many new users will pay no attention at all to a very long established culture that is evident in almost every User-to-User forums and bulletin boards on the web/internet... which is:
Please Mr. or Ms. New User, would you start here by simply first reading our Table of Contents -- or list of Forums -- before you begin to post? Thank you.
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But, as I say, a very circular problem, because all across the web most Forum category listings on Forum sites are very badly information-designed... generally too cumbersome to read first before a User feels overwhelm, which then flips the User's mental switch from "keep scanning down this really long list" to "Jesus, I'll spend more time here just figuring out WHERE to post than it takes to get a simple answer to a simple question."
It's more than a 2-way street with User and Community. It's more like a traffic jam at rush hour on a complex freeway interchange. Moral of the story is, it's impossible to know "intent" of a poster who answers a request for help with "use search" or just posts a link or two. Sometimes they really truly are giving someone the fastest exit ramp to their desired destination. It just takes too long to qualify such statements.
And yes, at same time there are examples every day of very inconsiderate people bashing newbies in unnecessarily cold ways.
And look how long this "meta" comment is -- which tries to bring a fuller perspective to the problem! Sometimes it's a wonder at all that so many people with so many phones are, every day, able to get so much help customizing their phones down to very specific solutions -- and all for free. Seen it that light, it's a miracle of cooperation!
pungcheer said:
Thank for step by step
Now I flash my dopodC800 to ITsPapablack but every time I reset, it's not show SPL
today I will flash again to "gulllums Touchflo2D II"
can I use same step?
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Yes.
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COMMENTARY:
That was good of you to take the time to help. In truth though, many many people help similarly. One of the problems is that the site serves so many different model phones, and so many ROM variations, that the site Admins really try (emphasis on TRY !) to segregate the "I need help with xxxxxx, please help!" threads to their new "Questions and Answers" forum, and keep each phone's ROM threads free of any threads that are not USER CONTRIBUTIONS to "hacking & development".
The problem is circular, though. I'm an information designer so I am often amazed that sometimes site "veterans" forget very easily the idea that for a new user "you don't know what you don't know until you get your toes wet"... then you get slapped around for not following the rules. But at same time, many many new users will pay no attention at all to a very long established culture that is evident in almost every User-to-User forums and bulletin boards on the web/internet... which is:
Quote:
Please Mr. or Ms. New User, would you start here by simply first reading our Table of Contents -- or list of Forums -- before you begin to post? Thank you.
But, as I say, a very circular problem, because all across the web most Forum category listings on Forum sites are very badly information-designed... generally too cumbersome to read first before a User feels overwhelm, which then flips the User's mental switch from "keep scanning down this really long list" to "Jesus, I'll spend more time here just figuring out WHERE to post than it takes to get a simple answer to a simple question."
It's more than a 2-way street with User and Community. It's more like a traffic jam at rush hour on a complex freeway interchange. Moral of the story is, it's impossible to know "intent" of a poster who answers a request for help with "use search" or just posts a link or two. Sometimes they really truly are giving someone the fastest exit ramp to their desired destination. It just takes too long to qualify such statements.
And yes, at same time there are examples every day of very inconsiderate people bashing newbies in unnecessarily cold ways.
And look how long this "meta" comment is -- which tries to bring a fuller perspective to the problem! Sometimes it's a wonder at all that so many people with so many phones are, every day, able to get so much help customizing their phones down to very specific solutions -- and all for free. Seen it that light, it's a miracle of cooperation!
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Yeah... I'll explain my point of view in the other forum, seeing as how this is the ROM development forum, and post a link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3836096#post3836096
I was able to figure it out on my own with no posts, just searching. I've never had a problem.
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You are right that many MANY threads are now obsolete, or have conflicting language & directions. Can I suggest that you edit your post to give it an explanatory title, so that it can be indexed by the search engine of this site, as well as by google? That way others may find your very post, which helps them bridge the gaps.
COMMENTARY:
That was good of you to take the time to help. In truth though, many many people help similarly. One of the problems is that the site serves so many different model phones, and so many ROM variations, that the site Admins really try (emphasis on TRY !) to segregate the "I need help with xxxxxx, please help!" threads to their new "Questions and Answers" forum, and keep each phone's ROM threads free of any threads that are not USER CONTRIBUTIONS to "hacking & development".
The problem is circular, though. I'm an information designer so I am often amazed that sometimes site "veterans" forget very easily the idea that for a new user "you don't know what you don't know until you get your toes wet"... then you get slapped around for not following the rules. But at same time, many many new users will pay no attention at all to a very long established culture that is evident in almost every User-to-User forums and bulletin boards on the web/internet... which is:
But, as I say, a very circular problem, because all across the web most Forum category listings on Forum sites are very badly information-designed... generally too cumbersome to read first before a User feels overwhelm, which then flips the User's mental switch from "keep scanning down this really long list" to "Jesus, I'll spend more time here just figuring out WHERE to post than it takes to get a simple answer to a simple question."
It's more than a 2-way street with User and Community. It's more like a traffic jam at rush hour on a complex freeway interchange. Moral of the story is, it's impossible to know "intent" of a poster who answers a request for help with "use search" or just posts a link or two. Sometimes they really truly are giving someone the fastest exit ramp to their desired destination. It just takes too long to qualify such statements.
And yes, at same time there are examples every day of very inconsiderate people bashing newbies in unnecessarily cold ways.
And look how long this "meta" comment is -- which tries to bring a fuller perspective to the problem! Sometimes it's a wonder at all that so many people with so many phones are, every day, able to get so much help customizing their phones down to very specific solutions -- and all for free. Seen it that light, it's a miracle of cooperation!
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Yes.Yes.Yes. Every noob situation is different as many already have the concept of a "list" and its purpose. The problem I see everyday is that new people never read the rules. I know I didnt, but I already understood why there iwas even a list. Its too be read and understood that noob questions do not go where it says "This forum is only meant fro ROM issues and ROM development." Its why the admins get fed up. Its really the responsibility of the poster to be informed about where to post on a forum. Even is there is 3 million forums (yes i know its overwhelming at first) there is only 4 subcategories. Read the rules. If you get lost and dont know what to do. Read the rules. Even if you dont get your answer, at least you'll learn to appreciate when someone posts in the correct place. Now im getting worked up on this. To conclude. The poster was very lucky to receive such nice answers to his question.
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I was able to figure it out on my own with no posts, just searching. I've never had a problem.
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If only more people had that quality in them the world would be a better place.
My point is not to say the information isn't here already, my point is to say the information isn't as clear, as updated, and easily accessible as it could be. If I had my way, you would have a forum specially devoted to Tutorials. And on that tutorial forum you would have a giant sticky that says, "The Complete Idiots Guide on Flashing" (emphasis on complete). It wouldn't give you links to like 20 different libraries of dictionary definitions, wikis, and other guides. It would be like a picture book with easily seen pictures of each step. Who knows we could make it rhyme and it would be like Dr.Seus for nerds. I think after my Complete Cab Collection is finished, I'll work on such a page.
The point is: Herald and Herald Mobile 6 are a little redundant. Why do we need both? What is the point? I read the rules and the forum FAQ and all of that, and I'm not finding an answer to the usefulness of having both. And unfortunately, where are the mods during all of this? From what Ivan says, they aren't taking applications for Mods, but they probably should be. Just look at how long this post is able to get in this thread and you'll see my point.
True eventually you find an answer after reading through 8-10 posts, 2-4 wikis, 3-6 google searches, and 8-10 panic attacks after doing a bad rom attempt. Does it really have to be this way?
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My point is not to say the information isn't here already, my point is to say the information isn't as clear, as updated, and easily accessible as it could be. If I had my way, you would have a forum specially devoted to Tutorials. And on that tutorial forum you would have a giant sticky that says, "The Complete Idiots Guide on Flashing" (emphasis on complete). It wouldn't give you links to like 20 different libraries of dictionary definitions, wikis, and other guides. It would be like a picture book with easily seen pictures of each step. Who knows we could make it rhyme and it would be like Dr.Seus for nerds. I think after my Complete Cab Collection is finished, I'll work on such a page.
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I've been trying to get stuff like this set up. I'm trying to become a mod for partially this reason.
I HAVE posted a complete guide on flashing, but it needs a little updating. The thing about all this is that it's not a business. A bunch of people (like me) read and read and read and gather data from one place and another and put it together to make something useful for our phones. The problem is, being that it's a forum, no one really wants to have to sit there and dedicate hour after hour to just writing out tutorials, when people like me, the ones who have that knowledge already, spend hours and hours and hours making ROMs for everybody else.
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The point is: Herald and Herald Mobile 6 are a little redundant. Why do we need both? What is the point? I read the rules and the forum FAQ and all of that, and I'm not finding an answer to the usefulness of having both. And unfortunately, where are the mods during all of this? From what Ivan says, they aren't taking applications for Mods, but they probably should be. Just look at how long this post is able to get in this thread and you'll see my point.
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Trust me, I've been pushing the whole redundancy issue for a while already. They do have a lot of mods, but none of them really work the Herald forum due to the fact that it's an old device with little to no traffic as compared to the other phone forums.
rstweb said:
True eventually you find an answer after reading through 8-10 posts, 2-4 wikis, 3-6 google searches, and 8-10 panic attacks after doing a bad rom attempt. Does it really have to be this way?
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There IS one great positive aspect to doing it this way. On the way to learn what you THINK you need to learn, you end up learning what you TRULY need to learn accidently. We live in a society where everyone wants the answers right away and to not understand the context. Sometimes, the context is more important than the answers. Searching in this manner forces the context on you before you reach an answer.
ivanmmj said:
I've been trying to get stuff like this set up. I'm trying to become a mod for partially this reason.
I HAVE posted a complete guide on flashing, but it needs a little updating. The thing about all this is that it's not a business. A bunch of people (like me) read and read and read and gather data from one place and another and put it together to make something useful for our phones. The problem is, being that it's a forum, no one really wants to have to sit there and dedicate hour after hour to just writing out tutorials, when people like me, the ones who have that knowledge already, spend hours and hours and hours making ROMs for everybody else.
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I agree, not everyone can do everything at once. You have done a pretty good job, but you have a life, and a wife, so you can't keep up all of that plus doing your ROMs, plus writing out Tutorial after Tutorial. Maybe that's why you have unmarried people like me here who can complain and write up cab collections at the same time . If only we had a female moderator, this forum would be spotless, and she could yell at dumb people at the same time.
ivanmmj said:
Trust me, I've been pushing the whole redundancy issue for a while already. They do have a lot of mods, but none of them really work the Herald forum due to the fact that it's an old device with little to no traffic as compared to the other phone forums.
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I guess that's true, maybe it kind of disappoints me seeing as how I didn't get the Wing too long ago. And what does it hurt adding someone as a Mod... It's not like they are paying you.
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There IS one great positive aspect to doing it this way. On the way to learn what you THINK you need to learn, you end up learning what you TRULY need to learn accidently. We live in a society where everyone wants the answers right away and to not understand the context. Sometimes, the context is more important than the answers. Searching in this manner forces the context on you before you reach an answer.
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I agree that searching forces the context. However, I also think it's possible to put the context together for people. You're right, society is content on finding what we want right away. However, what about the ordinary people who don't really want to dive so in depth into a pool of XDA Development. Should they not be given the right to flash a ROM to a phone, seeing as how it's pretty simple to do now. For people like me... Computer Science Majors... I love learning this context and don't mind the research, but not everyone is exactly like me or you.
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However, what about the ordinary people who don't really want to dive so in depth into a pool of XDA Development. Should they not be given the right to flash a ROM to a phone, seeing as how it's pretty simple to do now. For people like me... Computer Science Majors... I love learning this context and don't mind the research, but not everyone is exactly like me or you.
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I think everybody should know what he is doing before he´s trying to do it.
They have to know at least about the things that can happen.
In the last weaks dozens of users had bricked their phone´s by not reading, if there wasn´t the goldcard.
I don´t like the idea of people that come to this Forum, get everything served on silver plates and leave again without giving something back to the community.
I developed nothing by myself but at least i read the threads, try to help others when i can with answers or testing their work and give feedback.
There are countless threads and user´s that proof my point.
Zaknafein21 said:
I think everybody should know what he is doing before he´s trying to do it.
They have to know at least about the things that can happen.
In the last weaks dozens of users had bricked their phone´s by not reading, if there wasn´t the goldcard.
I don´t like the idea of people that come to this Forum, get everything served on silver plates and leave again without giving something back to the community.
I developed nothing by myself but at least i read the threads, try to help others when i can with answers or testing their work and give feedback.
There are countless threads and user´s that proof my point.
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Of course they should know what could happen. But it doesn't take a whole lot of threads to tell you the risks, it takes a paragraph, maybe two at most. Just read the back of a bottle of sleeping pills. There are more risks to taking those and yet they fit them in the space the size of an inch, maybe an inch and a half. And if things were organized, it would be like, "If these happen, see this thread." and there's a thread full of problems and solutions. And at the bottom, "If you cannot find your problem, try Searching. Recommend using Google XDA search, because normal XDA search sucks balls."
I have seen the posts of people who have bricked their phone. Although, in my opinion, this can be as much to blame as them not reading, as the material is not easily presented. It also doesn't help that organization has ceased to exist...
My idea was not to hand everything on a silver platter, either way, you have to read something or else you'll screw up... My idea is to take the information already available, revise it, update it, and make it easily available. Rather than hidden on page 2, 3, 4, 5. I'm thinking since there are no mods available to come Sticky some of these really important things on pages 2, 3, 4, and 5... I might just bump them all.
To me, all of this is far from being handed on a silver platter... But perhaps if you are unhappy with gratuity, just don't do anything at all here, instead of expecting more... Leave it to the people who are happy with and feel good about receiving thanks. It reminds me of some guy calling to get support and all he is is directed to an automated service, sometimes you just WANT to hear a human voice for once in your miserable support seeking life...
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Of course they should know what could happen. But it doesn't take a whole lot of threads to tell you the risks, it takes a paragraph, maybe two at most. Just read the back of a bottle of sleeping pills. There are more risks to taking those and yet they fit them in the space the size of an inch, maybe an inch and a half. And if things were organized, it would be like, "If these happen, see this thread." and there's a thread full of problems and solutions. And at the bottom, "If you cannot find your problem, try Searching. Recommend using Google XDA search, because normal XDA search sucks balls."
I have seen the posts of people who have bricked their phone. Although, in my opinion, this can be as much to blame as them not reading, as the material is not easily presented. It also doesn't help that organization has ceased to exist...
My idea was not to hand everything on a silver platter, either way, you have to read something or else you'll screw up... My idea is to take the information already available, revise it, update it, and make it easily available. Rather than hidden on page 2, 3, 4, 5. I'm thinking since there are no mods available to come Sticky some of these really important things on pages 2, 3, 4, and 5... I might just bump them all.
To me, all of this is far from being handed on a silver platter... But perhaps if you are unhappy with gratuity, just don't do anything at all here, instead of expecting more... Leave it to the people who are happy with and feel good about receiving thanks. It reminds me of some guy calling to get support and all he is is directed to an automated service, sometimes you just WANT to hear a human voice for once in your miserable support seeking life...
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The problem is that most new users expect the busy people who already create everything to put together something that would take hundred of man hours for them. Someone has to do it, but unfortunately, I'm too busy to do it. Someone has to step up to the plate of becoming the researcher and write up some nice walkthroughs, properly formatted. I tried doing that for a while, but people ignored those posts and still spammed the forums with the same questions over and over. If we can get some good walkthroughs and a general (here's the links for everything), I'm sure we can get it stickied... but again, it's the responsibility of the new person to read the sticky. Although a lot of new people won't read them, at the very least, it will help those who WANT to try to search. ^_^
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The problem is that most new users expect the busy people who already create everything to put together something that would take hundred of man hours for them. Someone has to do it, but unfortunately, I'm too busy to do it. Someone has to step up to the plate of becoming the researcher and write up some nice walkthroughs, properly formatted. I tried doing that for a while, but people ignored those posts and still spammed the forums with the same questions over and over. If we can get some good walkthroughs and a general (here's the links for everything), I'm sure we can get it stickied... but again, it's the responsibility of the new person to read the sticky. Although a lot of new people won't read them, at the very least, it will help those who WANT to try to search. ^_^
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My point exactly. Thank you Ivan.
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To me, all of this is far from being handed on a silver platter... But perhaps if you are unhappy with gratuity, just don't do anything at all here, instead of expecting more... Leave it to the people who are happy with and feel good about receiving thanks.
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That´s not what i was trying to say!
I try to help and would help to start the walkthrough threads but i don´t think this would help. The Stickys allready there aren´t bad especially this sticky
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369397
I am not frustrated about the done work, i am frustrated about lazy users.
If my point wasn´t clear i think i have to blame my limitited english.
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The problem is that most new users expect the busy people who already create everything to put together something that would take hundred of man hours for them. Someone has to do it, but unfortunately, I'm too busy to do it. Someone has to step up to the plate of becoming the researcher and write up some nice walkthroughs, properly formatted. I tried doing that for a while, but people ignored those posts and still spammed the forums with the same questions over and over. If we can get some good walkthroughs and a general (here's the links for everything), I'm sure we can get it stickied... but again, it's the responsibility of the new person to read the sticky. Although a lot of new people won't read them, at the very least, it will help those who WANT to try to search. ^_^
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Agree.
Look, this is probably a little bit against the rules, (linking to the Q&A forum from here) but this issue needs some serious attention from Galaxy-S Gurus:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863745
Multiple users are now having a serious problem connecting to their Galaxy-S Captivate in download mode. No string of drivers, updates, or anything else is solving the problem.
Why does this need your attention? Because if we can't get our phones connected in download mode, the risk of bricking your phone while flashing is FATAL, not something you can simply ODIN your way out of.
Please help. And please don't delete/move this thread until we clear this up.
Can you clarify what tasks you're performing that are giving you problems? Using Odin can unbrick a software bricked phone if you boot with it and the phone in download mode. It may help if you were more explicit about what you were doing and the steps you were taking.
Edit: sorry, didn't see the link you posted. Can you list all the options you've attempted and the steps you took? It might reveal something you may be missing.
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Simple driver problems... reading the odin thread would have gotten him fixed up right away.
I downloaded the driver that dg is talking about in the Odin thread. Not the one from Samsung site and have never had any issue and I flash my phone like its a drug.
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Simple driver problems... reading the odin thread would have gotten him fixed up right away.
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Please refrain from responses like this in the future. I know you'd like to have a simple answer and think that I'm some n00b, but there's more to it than just a driver issue.
I've installed, uninstalled, reinstalled every driver there is. Samsung Kies, Samsung New PC Studio, Samsung USB Drivers -- Hell, I even started downloading drivers for the Samsung MOMENT and any other phone that anyone listed having the same problem with. I downloaded the driver package with the uninstaller that you're supposed to run before you reinstall. I've uninstalled, rebooted, edited registry values, rebooted, reinstalled, rebooted, and still can't get the PC to recognize the phone in download mode. USB Mass Storage, Kies Mode, Debug mode all work fine. Not download mode.
I've been working on this for 36 hours. Trust me, it's not a simple driver problem.
I even tried running USBDeview and it doesn't even list the device as plugged in when it's connected in download mode. Windows tells me "A USB device connected to this computer has malfunctioned."
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Please refrain from responses like this in the future. I know you'd like to have a simple answer and think that I'm some n00b, but there's more to it than just a driver issue.
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Refrain from telling you exactly how to fix the issue because I have had the exact same issue.
Not a problem, good day sir.
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Refrain from telling you exactly how to fix the issue because I have had the exact same issue.
Not a problem, good day sir.
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I'm thrilled that you think you have it all figured out, but I think you need to actually look at the Q&A thread before providing such terse replies.
It's not a simple driver issue. I can't even jam the driver up Device Manager's ass.
It sees a download-mode phone as a malfunctioning USB device. Get it? Is there another way to say that I've downloaded 700+MB worth of Samsung apps and drivers since 5PM EST on 12/13?
DesignGears was just trying to help. He was just pointing out that there are different usb drivers in the ODIN post besides the ones from Samsung. DesignGears is a senior member of this site and also a rom developer. He may have helped you out further (considering he's is an expert at this) but probably not anymore, good luck.
I've been here for two days. It's tough to go two days on this forum without seeing his name. I'm somewhat aware of his credentials. That really doesn't change the fact that he gave me the first, simplest answer which came to mind without even reading the thread that I linked. In a fairly dismissive fashion.
I mean, right in my first post I mentioned that no updates or drivers seemed to be solving the problem. Shouldn't that intrigue the expert just enough to have him actually read the Q&A thread about the problem?
If not, I plainly don't want his help. Someone less dismissive with just as much knowledge will come along. This board is teeming with helpful minds; something else I've learned in my two days here.
i read that entire thread and it seems only 3 people have this issue, and 2 of them stop posting.. so.. it looks like its just you.
not to sound like a broken record but it sounds like a driver issue, borrow another phone if possible and see if it works in your comp, a lot of the fixes are posted in the previous thread that you linked already.
edit: im pretty sure this belongs in Q&A anyway as its not a major issue
Hard to imagine why the OP hasn't gotten any help...
Your usb port doesn't supply enough power. Use a diff port or use another comp
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...he gave me the first, simplest answer which came to mind...
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And it is the right answer.
All you need to do is pay attention.
Your phone goes into download mode just fine. The problem is that your computer is not reading/recognizing the device correctly. This is a driver issue. The drivers you need are not readily available by simply browsing the Samsung site. You can find them in the Dev forum.
I understand you are frustrated because you did something to your phone that you were unprepared for. Do not snap at the people who are trying to help.
1. Post in wrong forum
2. Receive answer anyway
3. Yell at people
4. ?????
5. Profit!
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1. Post in wrong forum
2. Receive answer anyway
3. Yell at people
4. ?????
5. Profit!
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Refresh your USB Driver stack maybe?
Move your USB cable to the back of the computer, right off the MB.
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Move your USB cable to the back of the computer, right off the MB.
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When I first started to use ODIN I had this same issue, then I moved the USB to the back and it worked. I also made sure I had all the ancillary software loaded on my PC too.
I believe in the looong Q&A thread, someone already suggested moving the usb cable to a different usb port.
My only suggestion: Do a master Windows cleanup and reboot of your computer...or try using someone else's computer.
eliminate more variables, improve your logic, stop banging head, change way of life
I hate to reply to this yardsale, but:
The logic would probably be:
Stop banging head, create another relevant test scenario.., or:
assumptions: phone seems to be in download mode. problem may be at other end of cable, device manager seems to be functional, test another device manager, is it ok? try another USB port?
In any case, moving to another machine probably would have fixed it. You didn't seem to eliminate many variables in your process.
You certainly may have eliminated an intervention from God as a possibility.. fortunately humans are very compassionate.. they seem to have stepped in for you, despite yourself...
THIS IS AN OPEN POST TO EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE NEW TO THIS OR ANY FORUM, AND MOST ESPECIALLY TO THOSE WHO ARE NEW TO ANDROID.
I originally wrote this post in the InsertCoin ROM Forum, and it seemed to get a lot of positive feedback. I'm submitting it here because I feel and hope that it will provide help for those who need it, and relieve unnecessary stress from those who have more important things to do.
I urge EVERYONE to read this in its entirety, especially if you're new to Android. Yes, it's long, but I hope it's worth it.
Here's what I said, with certain paragraphs and sections rearranged for emphasis.
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A story to start you off …
If you really want to understand how truly annoying some of you can be, consider this: Imagine you are at a new job, in a position you've always dreamed of, and you're working on an incredibly important project involving a new piece of technology that will save the world. Now imagine that you are alone in the building one night, working in your second floor office, and someone presses the buzzer at the front door. You get up, make your way downstairs, and walk all the way to the door only to discover that the person wants to know directions to the nearest coffee shop. Now imagine that you go back upstairs, start working, and the buzzer goes off again. It's another person who wants directions to the nearest coffee shop. This happens 4-5 times before you finally decide to write a HUGE note with very clear directions to the nearest coffee shop, and you post this note on the front door. Now imagine that over the next hour 10 more people press the buzzer, all wanting to know directions to the nearest coffee shop, and you go downstairs each and every time.
Would you not be extremely annoyed at the last 10 people who didn't read the note ... the very clear note staring them right in the face? Would you not want to punch them in the face? Well?
The moral of this story is, if you have a question, DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST. Many questions are asked over and over and over again, which upsets those of us who respect the time and effort some people here take in trying to help others. I'm especially thankful to the ROM and Kernel Chefs. They spend a great deal of time, usually their own time, working on much more important things to HELP US make our phones more user friendly. I tip my hat to them.
So, with all that said and done, here are a few recommendations before you waste everyone's time by asking questions that have already been answered.
NUMBER 1: This applies to ALL threads. READ THE FIRST FEW POSTS before you ask anything in the forum. READ THEM CAREFULLY, AND TAKE YOUR TIME. Many questions have already been answered in the first or second post.
NUMBER 2: If you still cannot find an answer to your question, USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION. If, for example, you are interested in a battery percentage mod, simply go to the first page of your intended forum, click on the "Search this Thread" button, put "Battery Mod" in the search box, and hit the enter key. You will get a whole slew of posts relating to this issue. THINK! THINK! THINK! Try to take the most important words out of your question and put those words in the search box. Again, you may be shocked at how easy it is to get the answer you want without having to waste anyone else's time.
NUMBER 3: If you still cannot find an answer to your question, post it in the forum. However, take time to write clearly and, if possible, don't use short forms like BTW, or AFAIK, etc. There are many people in these forums from other countries who do not understand these abbreviations, yet they may have the answer to your question. Therefore, it would be best to keep your question as clear as possible.
FINALLY! This is the most important point of all: DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH FIRST, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH FIRST, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH FIRST, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH FIRST! And when that isn't enough, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH FIRST!
Clear enough?
Have a great day!
Thank you,
Peter
Very good post, it is not what everyone, especially noobs, want to hear but it must be said. And this says it very well. Thanks button clicked
do you work for Rogers or HTC?
Cool story!
HTC Sensation
I don't get it ): I was hoping to come into this thread to learn a little more about my phone but I just read some rant about some of the new users on the forums that don't know how to use the search button.
Canadians crack me up
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I don't get it ): I was hoping to come into this thread to learn a little more about my phone but I just read some rant about some of the new users on the forums that don't know how to use the search button.
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Stick around XDA long enough and you will know exactly what he means by this post. I mean you are very new to XDA thus you do not understand.
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do you work for Rogers or HTC?
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I don't work for either Rogers or HTC. In fact, if I worked for HTC, I'd have a replacement Sensation by now. As it is, I'm in the middle of an ongoing fight to have them replace my unit due to dust UNDERNEATH the glass. I hear it's not uncommon.
We'll see.
Peter
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I don't get it ): I was hoping to come into this thread to learn a little more about my phone but I just read some rant about some of the new users on the forums that don't know how to use the search button.
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I do understand your disappointment and, perhaps, even your anger.
I created the title of this thread specifically to "trick" certain people. I wanted to get them to read what I believe is something very important. I also know that a great percentage of members who read the title are probably relatively new to xda.
As LPChris47 said, when you're here long enough, you'll fully understand what I said.
However, I do apologize to you and everyone else for using a trick title to get you to read something that many of us feel is very important.
Peter
Ok so I'm looking to root my HTC M7, I've been told the obvious problem already, I dont know enough yet to be rooting. Sorry, still want to try. That being said, I'm looking for some direction. A good site, a good video, anything or recommendations that will help me out. Yes I have gone to You Tube step by step videos but I always seem to run into a problem. For example, the person in the video says to follow a link below in description, I go and the link is no longer there. Or, maybe its there but takes me somewhere different than described. One of them even changed my browser to AVG (I know, I'm retarded).
Does anyone have any ideas on where to go, where to learn and where it will literally be a step by step?
By the way, the unlocking part seems easy enough. I think its from that point I run into trouble. Also, why? Everyone seems to want to know why. Simple, I would really like to learn for one. Second, I hate the garbage att lays in on me. Id like to mess with the speed (I've heard this is possible) and Id like more choices. I just want to keep the phone interesting. The last reason, I saw yesterday. If its not BS, Id like to get function from my HTC logo.
So I hope this is not to silly for all of you. If so, I do apologize.
Thanks, Chris
root htc m7
have you tried this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...one-m7-and-install-recovery-xda-developer-tv/
Yes, it may sound repetitive but read, read and read it again. There is an incredible amount of knowledge contained throughout this site. Sometimes the smallest mistake/oversight can lead to a huge headache, that's why its so important to have a basic understanding of any modifications you are about to make. Start with the dedicated forum for ur service provider/phone. All the info your going to need will be included in the forum and subsequent sub-forums. Good luck and don't be afraid to ask questions, we've all been in the same spot before. Use the tools that the site provides, search for your answers and read thru the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2222
Thanks.
Thanks for the help. I did end up finding more help in the dedicated area, especially when I went to my phones forums. Huge thanks for the encouragement. I will deff. read a little more before jumping off the cliff. Looks like the process has become much easier and people are developing all in one tools. Cool stuff, thanks again!
Hello Everybody, I'm new to this specific site so I apologize in advance if I posted this in the wrong forum section. I have a OP7P that I was running BlissRom. Today I decided to check out the EX kernel app. After installing. There was a pop-up that said "There is an Kernel update would you like to update mow, so I accepted and it asked me to reboot, like always after a system flash. And it's boots into Fastboot. I tried everything from Selecting Start to selecting recovery. To holding Vol and power buttons and Fastboot is where it goes no matter what. So I said at least it's in Fastboot. I'll just reflash the TWRP img file. Then. I noticed I was in trouble when my PC didn't detect the device at all. I plugged another device into the cable to make sure the cable was good and it was. So I ran Fastboot devices command and No devices detected rebooted it back into Fastboot. Tried it again and same thing. Someone please tell me I'm not totally screwed. I've bricked phones on a few occasions and always have gotten them back. This is my personal device. Fingers crossed my kids didn't just get a new frisby. Thanks everyone in advance!
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Hello Everybody, I'm new to this specific site so I apologize in advance if I posted this in the wrong forum section. I have a OP7P that I was running BlissRom. Today I decided to check out the EX kernel app. After installing. There was a pop-up that said "There is an Kernel update would you like to update mow, so I accepted and it asked me to reboot, like always after a system flash. And it's boots into Fastboot. I tried everything from Selecting Start to selecting recovery. To holding Vol and power buttons and Fastboot is where it goes no matter what. So I said at least it's in Fastboot. I'll just reflash the TWRP img file. Then. I noticed I was in trouble when my PC didn't detect the device at all. I plugged another device into the cable to make sure the cable was good and it was. So I ran Fastboot devices command and No devices detected rebooted it back into Fastboot. Tried it again and same thing. Someone please tell me I'm not totally screwed. I've bricked phones on a few occasions and always have gotten them back. This is my personal device. Fingers crossed my kids didn't just get a new frisby. Thanks everyone in advance!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/msm-tool-guac-t3934691
As many thorough threads for unbricking this device that people invested a lot of time to make 100% idiot proof we somehow keep getting these same cry for help post SMDH
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As many thorough threads for unbricking this device that people invested a lot of time to make 100% idiot proof we somehow keep getting these same cry for help post SMDH
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Kind of ignorant to be calling people idiots when they follow the same process theybalways have to update their ROM and things go south. Not every method works for the same device.
If you're not going to help, don't comment.
OP, check out my thread. I had something similar happen to me last week.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/help/issues-rooting-oneplus-7-pro-installing-t4094885
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Kind of ignorant to be calling people idiots when they follow the same process theybalways have to update their ROM and things go south. Not every method works for the same device.
If you're not going to help, don't comment.
OP, check out my thread. I had something similar happen to me last week.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/help/issues-rooting-oneplus-7-pro-installing-t4094885
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Never called anybody idiot brother and if you are older than twelve you should be familiar with the terminology and context of which I used idiot proof. Rather than giving answers that can be easily found why not promote the use of the search function? If we continue to just give answers these forums will continue to be full of meaningless space keeping threads like this one that only point you to another thread while the useful information gets pushed out.
There's a reason we didn't make all A's from teachers giving us all the answers or you don't just tell you're kids to listen to you count to 100 or sing the ABCs and it's because we wouldn't learn jack ish. Your reply was less helpful than mine. I stated that the threads were available hoping the OP attempts to use the search feature to find them. You just made the most useful tool (SEARCH) obsolete.
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Never called anybody idiot brother and if you are older than twelve you should be familiar with the terminology and context of which I used idiot proof. Rather than giving answers that can be easily found why not promote the use of the search function? If we continue to just give answers these forums will continue to be full of meaningless space keeping threads like this one that only point you to another thread while the useful information gets pushed out.
There's a reason we didn't make all A's from teachers giving us all the answers or you don't just tell you're kids to listen to you count to 100 or sing the ABCs and it's because we wouldn't learn jack ish. Your reply was less helpful than mine. I stated that the threads were available hoping the OP attempts to use the search feature to find them. You just made the most useful tool (SEARCH) obsolete.
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Could've just used fail-proof or other terminology, Hulk Hogan. No need to be passive aggressive to people are getting the hang this device.
This is the first time I've triggered a neckbeard. Nice.
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Could've just used fail-proof or other terminology, Hulk Hogan. No need to be passive aggressive to people are getting the hang this device.
This is the first time I've triggered a neckbeard. Nice.
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Lol I'm just frustrated to not be able to help . I check the questions and answers regularly to see if I can assist someone but the questions and answers forum is only filled with "Bricked" threads of which non are unique to anything posted in the Mega Unbrick and MSM Tool thread. I've had about every Bricked situation possible for this device and never once had to create a thread or even ask a question in a thread because I know the power of search. This device will always Unbrick as long the mother board isn't fried.
That Hulk Hogan was nice ?
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Lol I'm just frustrated to not be able to help . I check the questions and answers regularly to see if I can assist someone but the questions and answers forum is only filled with "Bricked" threads of which non are unique to anything posted in the Mega Unbrick and MSM Tool thread. I've had about every Bricked situation possible for this device and never once had to create a thread or even ask a question in a thread because I know the power of search. This device will always Unbrick as long the mother board isn't fried.
That Hulk Hogan was nice
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True. Nah, I'm just coming from OP's point of view. I've rooted my tablet and other phones and have never come close to bricking a device besides this one. I got all the way down to the Qualcomm crash dump message. I was so frustrated. All I did was literally download an update ROM build and applied it the exact same way I had the previous build, but something messed up along the way. I tried different methods til I finally found that All-in-One tool. I tried all the others and they didn't work for me.
Anyway, my bad for being rude. I know I'm not dealing with the typical YouTube type of people here
SMH.
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I literally said that I'm new to XDA and I'm not apart of any other forums or websites, and for one I looked up unbricking this device. None of them had an issue with their computer detecting their device in Fastboot mode. Therefore I reached out for help. The real problem is that people are so bored and have nothing to do that they just complain about other people's threads. What's the point in having a forum on this subject if you can't use it without dealing with this **** I could have done without a smartass response. If you missed the part where I stated that the USB-C port was not functional in Fastboot mode. Then please read my entire thread before adding input. I see your a senior member. I respect that and you probably have tons of knowledge that could be useful. So you should want to encourage instead of downgrade people for their questions. This hobby is slowly dying. Help the younger crowd. Theyre gonna be afraid to ask questions if they feel the experienced guys are gonna make them feel stupid. No disrespect I just didn't see the point in your response and with my bricked device having something uncommon from the other threads. I still feel that my question was a valid ask for help
Thanks!
Thanks Knightsriot
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As many thorough threads for unbricking this device that people invested a lot of time to make 100% idiot proof we somehow keep getting these same cry for help post SMDH
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Could've just used fail-proof or other terminology, Hulk Hogan. No need to be passive aggressive to people are getting the hang this device.
This is the first time I've triggered a neckbeard. Nice.
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True. Nah, I'm just coming from OP's point of view. I've rooted my tablet and other phones and have never come close to bricking a device besides this one. I got all the way down to the Qualcomm crash dump message. I was so frustrated. All I did was literally download an update ROM build and applied it the exact same way I had the previous build, but something messed up along the way. I tried different methods til I finally found that All-in-One tool. I tried all the others and they didn't work for me.
Anyway, my bad for being rude. I know I'm not dealing with the typical YouTube type of people here
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I'm glad there's still people out there who are willing to help. Update on the problem. I got frustrated with it and went to bed. It died overnight and when I plugged it in the next morning by the grace of God it decided to boot into TWRP 3.3.1-79. Where I had done a backup a few days prior! ?. I do have another quick question. I'm back on stock OOS 10.3.2 running renovate Ice. How come none of the changes I make in the rice tweaks app will actually change. None of them. Sorry in advance if this is a "stupid" question
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I'm glad there's still people out there who are willing to help. Update on the problem. I got frustrated with it and went to bed. It died overnight and when I plugged it in the next morning by the grace of God it decided to boot into TWRP 3.3.1-79. Where I had done a backup a few days prior! . I do have another quick question. I'm back on stock OOS 10.3.2 running renovate Ice. How come none of the changes I make in the rice tweaks app will actually change. None of them. Sorry in advance if this is a "stupid" question
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Search the RICE thread for the ''overlay mount fix''. Its a magisk module.
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I literally said that I'm new to XDA and I'm not apart of any other forums or websites, and for one I looked up unbricking this device. None of them had an issue with their computer detecting their device in Fastboot mode. Therefore I reached out for help. The real problem is that people are so bored and have nothing to do that they just complain about other people's threads. What's the point in having a forum on this subject if you can't use it without dealing with this **** I could have done without a smartass response. If you missed the part where I stated that the USB-C port was not functional in Fastboot mode. Then please read my entire thread before adding input. I see your a senior member. I respect that and you probably have tons of knowledge that could be useful. So you should want to encourage instead of downgrade people for their questions. This hobby is slowly dying. Help the younger crowd. Theyre gonna be afraid to ask questions if they feel the experienced guys are gonna make them feel stupid. No disrespect I just didn't see the point in your response and with my bricked device having something uncommon from the other threads. I still feel that my question was a valid ask for help
Thanks!
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Dude all I'm saying is search is the key. Note that I still helped just not the way you wanted. I don't have over 300 thanks for nothing.