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Google think that almost every device running android, is their device. Therefore they implemented a service within Google Play Services that will connect your device often to the Google and it will drain more battery then needed.
NOTE:
I tried a method that was shown on i think this forum or another one. I can't remember which one it was, and i cant find the thread either.
So before i am going to start this, i wanna thank the guy from the original thread for this, even if i dont know where i can find you. I am only sharing this so i take NO CREDITS.
I repeat, i am ONLY sharing this.
+ Works with:
- AOSP roms
- TW roms
- Well, basicly all android running devices :fingers-crossed:
To start with:
- Turn of location settings
- Go to settings, accounts and go to your google account.
+ go to advertisements and untick the toggle that says that Google takes care of your advertisements.
Most important:
- Download Adaway (latest) from HERE.
Thank you @mrRobinson for this awesome app!
- Open adAway and provide Adaway root access.
- Press the menu button and go to your own custom list.
- Now add a line by pressing the + button in the upper right of the screen.
- Add the following line < mtalk.google.com >
- Make sure the the checkmark is ON with the "mtalk.google.com" line.
- Now go back to the homescreen of adAway, apply the patch.
Note: According to the maker of the original thread, this seems to be the server that your device is always trying to communicate with. So by blacklisting this URL, there is no connection anymore.
Note 2: Cyanogenmod (and maybe other AOSP or GE users) are experiencing that the Blue highlighted WI-FI icon and the blue highlighted antenna icon are now GREY after applying this.
This is because you are not connected anymore to the google servers.
Note 3: Keep in mind that you can still manual synchronise your calander, contacts, Gmail, and other Google account related.
ramon.nmgn said:
Note 3: Keep in mind that you can still synchronise your calander, contacts, Gmail, and other Google account related.
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This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...
Pfeffernuss said:
This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...
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Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for this.
I don't think Ad away works as it should though.
It says its syncing and merging with my current hosts file but after doing that my hosts file goes from 1.4mb to 700kb. So all its doing is deleting stuff. Weird
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Obagleyfreer said:
Thanks for this.
I don't think Ad away works as it should though.
It says its syncing and merging with my current hosts file but after doing that my hosts file goes from 1.4mb to 700kb. So all its doing is deleting stuff. Weird
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Ah i did not checked my host file if became smaller. But adAway definitely works for me as it completely rebuilds the host file.
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how about deleting google play services if dont need automatic syncing?
Pfeffernuss said:
This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...
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I believe this is not a viable option for many users for the same reason ...but still for some may be useful
Vihru said:
how about deleting google play services if dont need automatic syncing?
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I think if you do that, you are not even able to Sync and update your apps at al.
I am just sharing this, i am using it myself and im pretty satisfied.
ramon.nmgn said:
I think if you do that, you are not even able to Sync and update your apps at al.
I am just sharing this, i am using it myself and im pretty satisfied.
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I always delete GooglePlayServices and never have any problems with apps updating.
I still get notifications in my status bar telling me when there is an app update available in the Play Store and also still get my Gmail notifications in my status bar.
Syncing works perfectly and so does Maps, Google Search, YouTube etc.
I actually can't see ANY reason to have GooglePlayServices installed.
All my Google apps still function perfectly without it.
And I no longer have RAM wasted and battery used up by this annoying app!!
My advice to everyone, delete it, it's not needed at all.
Obagleyfreer said:
I actually can't see ANY reason to have GooglePlayServices installed.
All my Google apps still function perfectly without it.
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Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me
Pfeffernuss said:
Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me
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Did you tried the method i mentioned? :happy:
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Pfeffernuss said:
Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me
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That's odd, I don't get Google Maps requesting Play services on my device.
I do get one of those notifications after wiping cache and dalvik cache though, I just swipe it away and carry on as normal.
After you swiped them away can you still use the apps requesting it?
For example when I first boot up YouTube after wiping cache it says it needs PlayServices to run but I just ignore and cancel it.
I have never lost any YouTube functionality at all.
ramon.nmgn said:
Did you tried the method i mentioned? :happy:
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What method? Entering the mtalk line?
Obagleyfreer said:
After you swiped them away can you still use the apps requesting it?
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Some yes, some no. Keep refused to work. Anyway, can easily make it through the end of the day anyway and will always charge at night so no biggie but all small bits can help of course. This fix is a bit too coarse, for me that is of course
Greetings.
as you know, even if we disable "android device manager" from settings->security->device administrators, it still can be enabled from https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager "enable lock & erase"
from one side it is good, but from other side it is bad - i don't want that my phone can be remotely erased by google
this functionality definitely resides in gmscore.apk
of course, we can just kill all google services, but we loose too much.
so : probably someone from devs here already know answer what to patch in gmscore to disable this behavior ?
with latest gmscore update ( 6.1.74 (1511752-038) ) the only message i can see, when pushing "enable lock and erase" :
GCM message com.google.android.gms 0:1414056810224892%136ddda63e77bab2
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of course, hex payload different each time.
disabling service
Code:
com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService
did job
:good:
Thanks you, I 'm searching since 10 minute.
the_laser said:
disabling service
Code:
com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService
did job
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Thanks! I was wondering how to do that.
thanks, but...
the_laser said:
disabling service
Code:
com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService
did job
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I can't seem to find that service, heck I can't even find gmscore.apk
When I use find / -name gmscore.apk in terminal nothing came up.
Running 4.4.2 on galaxy S5, google framework 4.4.2-940549
Any ideas?
I would really not want my device wiped If my google account was compromised (really only have it for android)
as i remember, this service because build into gmscore from 4.4.4 and enabling downloading some external application.
can be wrong, though.
damn it google!
This is really frustrating. I can't find a way to disable it and I can't find 'com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService'.
This a serious security flaw, let me explain why.... I have a company account on my phone, just for the purpose of receiving gmail, and that's very important to me. This also means this account can access my phone through android device manager. So, anyone that can log in to firm's gmail can lock and erase my phone and there's no way to disable it. Best I could do was turn off location reporting and hide my phone from showing in device list. However, anyone that can log in to this account, can also change this in settings and unhide it, enable lock and erase, make it ring and.... well, lock and erase it.
This is very worrying when you have a lot of people with access to gmail account that you also have on your phone. ATM only solution I see is to remove account on my phone and search for other email app.
Anyone knows how one could deal with this and still use gmail app?
gimche said:
This is really frustrating. I can't find a way to disable it and I can't find 'com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService'.
This a serious security flaw, let me explain why.... I have a company account on my phone, just for the purpose of receiving gmail, and that's very important to me. This also means this account can access my phone through android device manager. So, anyone that can log in to firm's gmail can lock and erase my phone and there's no way to disable it. Best I could do was turn off location reporting and hide my phone from showing in device list. However, anyone that can log in to this account, can also change this in settings and unhide it, enable lock and erase, make it ring and.... well, lock and erase it.
This is very worrying when you have a lot of people with access to gmail account that you also have on your phone. ATM only solution I see is to remove account on my phone and search for other email app.
Anyone knows how one could deal with this and still use gmail app?
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Instead of a problem with ADM, this sounds like a massive security issue on your company's side. I don't know why your company need to share the same email account, but the more people who have access, the more likely someone will spill the beans. If I am you, getting my phone wiped will the least of my worries.
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Thank you, that is what I want. Great!
Ok so Im facing the same problem is there any way to disable this process ?
gimche said:
This is really frustrating. I can't find a way to disable it and I can't find 'com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService'.
This a serious security flaw, let me explain why.... I have a company account on my phone, just for the purpose of receiving gmail, and that's very important to me. This also means this account can access my phone through android device manager. So, anyone that can log in to firm's gmail can lock and erase my phone and there's no way to disable it. Best I could do was turn off location reporting and hide my phone from showing in device list. However, anyone that can log in to this account, can also change this in settings and unhide it, enable lock and erase, make it ring and.... well, lock and erase it.
This is very worrying when you have a lot of people with access to gmail account that you also have on your phone. ATM only solution I see is to remove account on my phone and search for other email app.
Anyone knows how one could deal with this and still use gmail app?
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deadwolf666 said:
Ok so Im facing the same problem is there any way to disable this process ?
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tamuin said:
I can't seem to find that service, heck I can't even find gmscore.apk
When I use find / -name gmscore.apk in terminal nothing came up.
Running 4.4.2 on galaxy S5, google framework 4.4.2-940549
Any ideas?
I would really not want my device wiped If my google account was compromised (really only have it for android)
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Install My Android Tools then go to Service>Google Play Service then disable the corresponding service.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.myandroidtools&en
How about using a ROM without gapps?
Cyclu said:
Install My Android Tools then go to Service>Google Play Service then disable the corresponding service.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.myandroidtools&en
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This dosent appear to be working, as after I disable all the above services, clicked on "enable lock and erase" from my google account it reactivated said services. So which service is activating and overriding the services I disabled?
Im running Android 4.4.2(goldeneye rom, Googymax kernal) on a Samsung i9505, I use Xprivacy, Android firewall, and Appmaster(app uninstaller & autostart manager)
Trying to secure an oem samsung Rom from google and its services while still using all the factory apps is going to be like herding cats...
It's similar to going to the pool and expecting to swim but not getting wet.
If you use Google apps and use the accounts feature of Android then you are going to have Google play services and other Google services running, and sadly you can stop them all you want they update and restart themselves regularly.
You just can't get away from Google, if you still use Google play, the Google mail app, Google voice search, Google account verifier, Google download manager, Google hangouts, Google plus or the host of other Google services and apps that a baked into your rom.
All you will do in find yourself with a lot of force closes from apps, and less hair more cats.
What @Cyclu said was the right way. there are several services and receivers that have "mdm" , probably what you could do is use the search function in the app while viewing the services for GooglePlayServices. at the top of the screen, click menu, toggle full, (full/short option) then tap the magnifying glass, then the search box and type "mdm" , then do the same thing under the receivers section
This is so annoying. Can you imagine disabling admin on the phone, knowing that after reading the description in that area of the settings that it cannot be used to wipe the phone? Then someone testing it to prove it and they click "Enable" and wipe the phone? Know how dangerous that is? My phone is an S5 mini, stock firmware and rooted with SuperSU. What can I do to just prevent admin mode being enabled? I want to be able to track my phone's location but I do NOT want my phone able to be remotely wiped by anyone including myself, remotely.
I tried all. Looks like there is no way to disable ADM. Even if u disable corresponding service for ADM still when u restart that service gets re-enables it self again. Had any got a solution to disable this crappy android device manager fully?? thx in advance.
Forgive me, but this thread is just pathetic. If you have Gapps, your device is not yours. It is Google's. Period. If you can't live without hangouts and similar garbage, then enjoy them, but stop *****ing about remote wipe. You can't be half-pregnant. By the way, remote wipe is not the worse thing that could happen to you. Anything could be silently installed on "your" phone, even if you somehow disable ADM. It could be done through Google play and google services framework. Not to mention thar google analytics record everything about your activities and gsf regularly reports the same "home" i.e Google.
To gmail at work guy: if you can't use another client to access your work gmail, get a separate feature phone.
even "android = google" ? much less gapps , eh ?
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
mrrocketdog said:
even "android = google" ? much less gapps , eh ?
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
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Android, unlike Gapps, is open source. So, you can get under the hood and clean lots of things.
So, it's a well known fact that a lot of us hate miui mostly because of the number of bloatwares it comes with. While we can easily uninstall the third party bloatwares, but the problem comes in when it comes to system apps. We can't simply uninstall them, neither can we disable them (surprisingly miui doesn't show any disbale option or even if it's there, it's already greyed out). So, we need to either root our device to easily uninstall them or need to use a bit more complex ADB method.
So, today I will share an easy but tricky way to disable any system app. It has two advantages over ADB debloat method or root method. First, you don't need to be technically sound. Second, you can revert them back in just one tap if you feel so.
So just follow the below steps to disable any system apps in miui.
1. Open Google Play Store
2. Go to the top left menu option
3. Scroll down and click on "Help & feedback"
4. Now click on "Browse all articles"
5. Now locate "Delete or disable apps on android"
6. Click on it and then click on "Tap to go to application settings"
7. Now you will be presented with all apps that are there on your device. Just tap on the app of your desire.
8. Click on "Disable" and voila! The app is disabled as long as you don't wish to enable it again.
I know some users will say it won't free up space as it will still be present on the device. That's partly true. While the app is still present on the device and still occupies space, but it won't add up any additional data and wont run in the background. I'm sure you know what happens when you disable an app. So, I don't want any argument which is better and blah blah!! Remember, this method is mainly for people who need a solution as simple as possible.
So, what are you waiting for? Go try it today! ?
N.B. Sorry if the post is a bit long. I love explaining things in a detailed way.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
So, it's a well known fact that a lot of us hate miui mostly because of the number of bloatwares it comes with. While we can easily uninstall the third party bloatwares, but the problem comes in when it comes to system apps. We can't simply uninstall them, neither can we disable them (surprisingly miui doesn't show any disbale option or even if it's there, it's already greyed out). So, we need to either root our device to easily uninstall them or need to use a bit more complex ADB method.
So, today I will share an easy but tricky way to disable any system app. It has two advantages over ADB debloat method or root method. First, you don't need to be technically sound. Second, you can revert them back in just one tap if you feel so.
So just follow the below steps to disable any system apps in miui.
1. Open Google Play Store
2. Go to the top left menu option
3. Scroll down and click on "Help & feedback"
4. Now click on "Browse all articles"
5. Now locate "Delete or disable apps on android"
6. Click on it and then click on "Tap to go to application settings"
7. Now you will be presented with all apps that are there on your device. Just tap on the app of your desire.
8. Click on "Disable" and voila! The app is disabled as long as you don't wish to enable it again.
I know some users will say it won't free up space as it will still be present on the device. That's partly true. While the app is still present on the device and still occupies space, but it won't add up any additional data and wont run in the background. I'm sure you know what happens when you disable an app. So, I don't want any argument which is better and blah blah!! Remember, this method is mainly for people who need a solution as simple as possible.
So, what are you waiting for? Go try it today! ?
N.B. Sorry if the post is a bit long. I love explaining things in a detailed way.
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not working on 9.1.24
Nfury00701 said:
not working on 9.1.24
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Lol. You want some proof? I am using 9.1.24 myself and I have disabled Chrome and Gmail by this method. Plzz don't write negative comments if you cant follow the steps properly.
FYI: Sometimes you need to uninstall the updates first before disabling an app. That's how it is. It has nothing to do with miui.
For uninstalling updates, tap on the bottom "More" on the app setting page.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
Lol. You want some proof? I am using 9.1.24 myself and I have disabled Chrome and Gmail by this method. Plzz don't write negative comments if you cant follow the steps properly.
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lol
Nfury00701 said:
lol
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Dude, there's a reason why android doesn't let you disable certain apps. You can't call anything and everything as bloatwares. The app you are trying to disable is an essential part of miui and is responsible for the updates of system apps. Without this app, you won't be able to update any system apps. The same goes for Camera, Clock, Contacts, Dialer, Gallery, Messaging etc. It's not a fault of miui. That's how android works. Use your common sense!!
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
Dude, there's a reason why android doesn't let you disable certain apps. You can't call anything and everything as bloatwares. The app you are trying to disable is an essential part of miui and is responsible for the updates of system apps. Without this app, you won't be able to update any system apps. The same goes for Camera, Clock, Contacts, Dialer, Gallery, Messaging etc. It's not a fault of miui. That's how android works. Use your common sense!!
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okay. u should update you op coz u mentioned we can disable any system apps. i have uninstalled "apps" before using root. for me Xiaomi Browser is bloatware too. I have used your instruction and failed to disable. common sense isn't so common.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
Dude, there's a reason why android doesn't let you disable certain apps. You can't call anything and everything as bloatwares. The app you are trying to disable is an essential part of miui and is responsible for the updates of system apps. Without this app, you won't be able to update any system apps. The same goes for Camera, Clock, Contacts, Dialer, Gallery, Messaging etc. It's not a fault of miui. That's how android works. Use your common sense!!
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no, that's not an "essential" part of the OS. The phone will still function perfectly well even if that app is disabled. please, quit your bs. this has nothing to do with how android works, miui doesn't let you disable it, that's all. it's upto your oem, android, by default will let you disable every single app, whether it breaks your phone or not.
If you go into settings and search for 'covid', you'll see settings implying that contact tracing functionality is installed.
How far does it go? It needs bluetooth but will it enable bluetooth regardless if you enable your antenna or not?
Will it show your bluetooth to be on or not?
I don't need answers to these questions. I want to remove this stuff from my phone.
My understanding is that the functionality was installed 'as a part of' and 'in an update of' Google Play-Services.
To remove it, I guess we would need a modified Google Play-Services package
or
remove Google Play-Services altogether.
I don't know to what lengths Google Play-Services is required by OxygenOS or other distros for that matter.
Google Apps won't work anymore without it. That definitely suck for Translate and Maps but I guess there are alternatives for that.
Google bought Waze. I wonder if Waze needs Google Play-Services..
I never was a fan of custom ROMs and rooting. I was perfectly happy with OxygenOS (OnePlus 7).
Now I really don't care, I want this garbage off my phone. Kr,
progonkpa said:
If you go into settings and search for 'covid', you'll see settings implying that contact tracing functionality is installed.
How far does it go? It needs bluetooth but will it enable bluetooth regardless if you enable your antenna or not?
Will it show your bluetooth to be on or not?
I don't need answers to these questions. I want to remove this stuff from my phone.
My understanding is that the functionality was installed 'as a part of' and 'in an update of' Google Play-Services.
To remove it, I guess we would need a modified Google Play-Services package
or
remove Google Play-Services altogether.
I don't know to what lengths Google Play-Services is required by OxygenOS or other distros for that matter.
Google Apps won't work anymore without it. That definitely suck for Translate and Maps but I guess there are alternatives for that.
Google bought Waze. I wonder if Waze needs Google Play-Services..
I never was a fan of custom ROMs and rooting. I was perfectly happy with OxygenOS (OnePlus 7).
Now I really don't care, I want this garbage off my phone. Kr,
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Next phone you can consider huawei.. Lol.. Legally required to ship with no trace of Google.
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OpenGapps the way forward?
progonkpa said:
To remove it, I guess we would need a modified Google Play-Services package
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I am interested in this approach, as Aurora Store isn't able to fully replace google play at this time (no app purchasing)
So I have 2. questions to the community at large:
Would OpenGapps be the way forward? would this prevent googleplayserevices from be update by google thus preventing unauthorised/non-consented changes that facilitate state-level tracking.
And regard9ing the existing google services is there anyway to disable the covid19 toast notification appearing everytime time you enabled/disable bluetooth and or gps. The xposed module 'EnhancedToast' is able to do this, but only works on Andoird 6/7 or below.
b1k3rdude said:
I am interested in this approach, as Aurora Store isn't able to fully replace google play at this time (no app purchasing)
So I have 2. questions to the community at large:
Would OpenGapps be the way forward? would this prevent googleplayserevices from be update by google thus preventing unauthorised/non-consented changes that facilitate state-level tracking.
And regard9ing the existing google services is there anyway to disable the covid19 toast notification appearing everytime time you enabled/disable bluetooth and or gps. The xposed module 'EnhancedToast' is able to do this, but only works on Andoird 6/7 or below.
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Covid-19 contact tracing requires installing an app, if you, yourself, the user, have not installed some form of Covid-19 contact tracing app, then you "should" be in the clear unless you somehow agreed to/allowed/gave permission to something without knowing what you were agreeing to/allowing/giving permission to .
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Droidriven said:
Covid-19 contact tracing requires installing an app, if you, yourself, the user, have not installed some form of Covid-19 contact tracing app, then you "should" be in the clear unless you somehow agreed to/allowed/gave permission to something without knowing what you were agreeing to/allowing/giving permission to .
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Google admitting they installed this on your phone without your permission
youtube video titled "Exposure Notifications System: Helping Health Authorities fight COVID-19"
check your android - settings/general/google->COVID-19 Exposure Notifications
I'm assuming being rooted is required to do anything towards removing/disabling it?
ultra4e said:
Google admitting they installed this on your phone without your permission
youtube video titled "Exposure Notifications System: Helping Health Authorities fight COVID-19"
check your android - settings/general/google->COVID-19 Exposure Notifications
I'm assuming being rooted is required to do anything towards removing/disabling it?
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The only way to get rid of it is to delete Google Play Services. That's how they snuck it in. On Android Pie it's simple. Just debloat via ADB using pm list packages prompt and voila! it's gone. On Android 10 it works the same EXCEPT none of the google apps, firefox, instacart, or anything like that will WORK. So you can de-google all you want - they've baked it into everything. It's something I'm struggling with now since I was forced to upgrade.
Boost carrier Moto g Stylus 5G 2022 XT2215-4 with Android 12. Google Play Services App is DISABLED. I cannot completely disable the Google Play Services Availability alert option in the Phone App (SHOW NOTIFICATIONS locked). Other apps allow the user to disable the Google Play Services Availability alert. Is there a fix for the Phone App?
TIA,
F
You can temporarily disable Google play Services. I normally do unless it's needed like for Gmail. Playstore, Backup Transport are also a dependencies of it. Pretty much a menace... even on Android 9
Change the default phone app and disable Google Dialer.
blackhawk said:
You can temporarily disable Google play Services. I normally do unless it's needed like for Gmail. Playstore, Backup Transport are also a dependencies of it. Pretty much a menace... even on Android 9
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Thanks for your input. I disabled Google Play Services. Even removed it using ADB. Unfortunately, I cannot turn off the alert in the PHONE APP that's looking for Google Play Services (see attached screen shots). The radio button to disable the alert is greyed out.
TheMystic said:
Change the default phone app and disable Google Dialer.
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1. Are you recommending that I install another phone app instead of the default Android? Any recommendation.
2. Isn't Google dialer part of the phone app?
Phone app is fully functional. The issue is the alert message prompting the activation of Google Play Services. I can turn off this prompt with other apps, but not the phone app.
furballi said:
1. Are you recommending that I install another phone app instead of the default Android? Any recommendation.
2. Isn't Google dialer part of the phone app?
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Yes. Since the notification cannot be disabled, it can become annoying after a while.
Google Dialer is currently your phone app and is set as default.
Install a 3rd party dialer app of your choice and set it as default. Now you'll be able to disable Google Dialer (or Phone) app from its app info page.
My recommendation
Simple Dialer - Apps on Google Play
Manage phone calls with this simple phone dialer app with phonebook
play.google.com
If you're fine without call recording feature, the above is an excellent and safe alternative.
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Manage phone calls with this simple phone dialer app with phonebook
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TheMystic said:
Yes. Since the notification cannot be disabled, it can become annoying after a while.
Google Dialer is currently your phone app and is set as default.
Install a 3rd party dialer app of your choice and set it as default. Now you'll be able to disable Google Dialer (or Phone) app from its app info page.
My recommendation:
Simple Dialer - Apps on Google Play
Manage phone calls with this simple phone dialer app with phonebook
play.google.com
If you're fine without call recording feature, the above is an excellent and safe alternative.
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Excellent! Will install the other option. I also have the 6 GB RAM version of this phone from Metro. Per app inspection, the other phone app is identical in revision number, but it doesn't have the Google Play Services Availability radio option.
If time permits, I may remove Phone App via ADB, then download the next Phone App apk. I don't know if Google Play Services Availability is hard coded into Boost's Android 12 build. Thank you very much for your input.
furballi said:
Thanks for your input. I disabled Google Play Services. Even removed it using ADB. Unfortunately, I cannot turn off the alert in the PHONE APP that's looking for Google Play Services (see attached screen shots). The radio button to disable the alert is greyed out.
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On Samsung's they use their own phone/messaging apps and Google play Services isn't mandatorily intergrated into them so they will run fine without it. You're going to have to play with it.
Completely removing Google play Services could cause headaches. It maybe possible to block the popup via a adb edit but no idea how or if possible on a non-rooted phone.
All Gookill apps are a pain and Google play Services is integrated into them to a greater or lesser extent. 3rd party phone app... maybe.
furballi said:
Excellent! Will install the other option. I also have the 6 GB RAM version of this phone from Metro. Per app inspection, the other phone app is identical in revision number, but it doesn't have the Google Play Services Availability radio option.
If time permits, I may remove Phone App via ADB, then download the next Phone App apk. I don't know if Google Play Services Availability is hard coded into Boost's Android 12 build. Thank you very much for your input.
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I suggest that you install the alternative app first, set it as default and test everything is working fine (although there is no reason why it wouldn't) before attempting to remove the stock dialer.
blackhawk said:
On Samsung's they use their own phone/messaging apps and Google play Services isn't mandatorily intergrated into them so they will run fine without it. You're going to have to play with it.
Completely removing Google play Services could cause headaches. It maybe possible to block the popup via a adb edit but no idea how or if possible on a non-rooted phone.
All Gookill apps are a pain and Google play Services is integrated into them to a greater or lesser extent. 3rd party phone app... maybe.
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A whole lot of apps are dependent on Google Play Services. On one of my devices, I disabled it and soon after I got some 12 to 15 notifications from different apps asking me to enable it. The notifications were so frequent and annoying that I just re-enabled it for peace of mind. 🫣
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I suggest that you install the alternative app first, set it as default and test everything is working fine (although there is no reason why it wouldn't) before attempting to remove the stock dialer.
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Yeah, the dialer is part of the core function of a... phone.
Lol, proceed with caution unless you enjoy factory resets
blackhawk said:
On Samsung's they use their own phone/messaging apps and Google play Services isn't mandatorily intergrated into them so they will run fine without it. You're going to have to play with it.
Completely removing Google play Services could cause headaches. It maybe possible to block the popup via a adb edit but no idea how or if possible on a non-rooted phone.
All Gookill apps are a pain and Google play Services is integrated into them to a greater or lesser extent. 3rd party phone app... maybe.
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Thank you.
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A whole lot of apps are dependent on Google Play Services. On one of my devices, I disabled it and soon after I got some 12 to 15 notifications from different apps asking me to enable it. The notifications were so frequent and annoying that I just re-enabled it for peace of mind. 🫣
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You got a lot of trashware running...
blackhawk said:
You got a lot of trashware running...
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Maps (not just Google Maps), SMS app, mail apps, taxi apps.... aren't trashware.
TheMystic said:
A whole lot of apps are dependent on Google Play Services. On one of my devices, I disabled it and soon after I got some 12 to 15 notifications from different apps asking me to enable it. The notifications were so frequent and annoying that I just re-enabled it for peace of mind. 🫣
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Will test drive the alternate phone app. I also saw a bunch of alerts, but I was able to kill them by going into each app and disable the Google Play Services alert radio button. The GPS's main function is probably to update the app. All the apps are fully functional without GPS running in the background.
Google's is in the business of data mining. That's why I want tight control of all Google apps whenever possible.
furballi said:
Will test drive the alternate phone app. I also saw a bunch of alerts, but I was able to kill them by going into each app and disable the Google Play Services alert radio button. The GPS's main function is probably to update the app. All the apps are fully functional without GPS running in the background.
Google's is in the business of data mining. That's why I want tight control of all Google apps whenever possible.
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Updating is handled by Google Play Store.
Google Play Services offers a whole range of services that apps use, such as location, push notifications, etc.
If you are able to find apps that offer full functionality without depending on GPS, then you'll be fine disabling it.
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Maps (not just Google Maps), SMS app, mail apps, taxi apps.... aren't trashware.
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Yeah, they are... sorry.
Gmaps runs fine without it. Less some of the junk features.
Driving a taxi sucks... people are trouble.
Drunks are the worst.
TheMystic said:
Maps (not just Google Maps), SMS app, mail apps, taxi apps.... aren't trashware.
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I use HERE drive. Download the map into your phone and turn ON location. Hopefully, I only need to use the SMS and Clock app. But I agree, a lot of useful stuffs are in the Google ecosystem. Chrome is significantly faster than Firefox per my setup. Edge was fast until it got bogged down with AI search. This is how they push you to upgrade the processor.
blackhawk said:
Driving a taxi sucks... people are trouble
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I'm referring to taxi services as a customer though.
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I'm referring to taxi services as a customer though.
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Than no need for Google play Services 99% of the time. It's a data mining parasite.