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Yu Yureka Phones, similar to Idol 3 5.5?

Hi all,
While looking for a rom to flash on my Idol, I found one guy comparing the Idol 3 5.5 to the Yu Yureka Plus phones.
Seems they are similar.
http://www.gsmarena.com/yu_yureka_plus-7436.php
Maybe another device to follow-up and port from?

Anghirrim said:
Hi all,
While looking for a rom to flash on my Idol, I found one guy comparing the Idol 3 5.5 to the Yu Yureka Plus phones.
Seems they are similar.
http://www.gsmarena.com/yu_yureka_plus-7436.php
Maybe another device to follow-up and port from?
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Dear lord,they are pretty much identical! O.O
I think that we won't need to do MUCH to port ROMs from the Yureka Plus.
Hopefully one of the two devs we have will try to mix something up. xD
Sent from my 6045K using XDA Forums Pro.

They are totally different phones
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/cff450e54

gautam.malik said:
They are totally different phones
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/cff450e54
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I dont mean to be rude,but are you OK?
Exact same CPU,same clockspeed,same amount of RAM,same camera module.
The only possible difference(software-wise) can be the partition tables.

The Marionette said:
I dont mean to be rude,but are you OK?
Exact same CPU,same clockspeed,same amount of RAM,same camera module.
The only possible difference(software-wise) can be the partition tables.
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Chipsets are the same but both front and back cameras are different, no dual band wifi, no stereo speakers, no NFC, CDMA, different LTE bands. Its a copy, not a clone.

flopticalcube said:
Chipsets are the same but both front and back cameras are different, no dual band wifi, no stereo speakers, no NFC, CDMA, different LTE bands. Its a copy, not a clone.
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I over-exaggerated.
I never thought they were identical,but at least in the past,same CPU,camera and RAM were things needed in order to port a rom to another device,other things would be patched up.
I think it would be much easier to try porting a rom for that device and patch some things up than making a rom out of scratch with only 3 devs working for the Idol 3.

The Marionette said:
I over-exaggerated.
I never thought they were identical,but at least in the past,same CPU,camera and RAM were things needed in order to port a rom to another device,other things would be patched up.
I think it would be much easier to try porting a rom for that device and patch some things up than making a rom out of scratch with only 3 devs working for the Idol 3.
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Yes, I see what you are saying. It would be a good starting point. I think only the lens configuration is different on the rear cam.

The Marionette said:
I dont mean to be rude,but are you OK?
Exact same CPU,same clockspeed,same amount of RAM,same camera module.
The only possible difference(software-wise) can be the partition tables.
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I didn't want to be rude at all, may be the message was misleading.
When I compare identical phone, I think in terms of whether the rom of one phone can be used, after some tweaks, in another phone that you are comparing.
Otherwise, many phones share some level commonless.
Eg. Umi Emax mini and idol 3 5.5 are quite similar except screen size. Look at their rom... they are nearly identical

gautam.malik said:
I didn't want to be rude at all, may be the message was misleading.
When I compare identical phone, I think in terms of whether the rom of one phone can be used, after some tweaks, in another phone that you are comparing.
Otherwise, many phones share some level commonless.
Eg. Umi Emax mini and idol 3 5.5 are quite similar except screen size. Look at their rom... they are nearly identical
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I know. I was being dramatic.
But it is much easier to port a rom from a device with same CPU and other parts(plus patching some things up) than making a rom out of scratch.

It seems that Android N won't come to Honor 6 and 6 plus. Is it true ?

Since Honor 6 and 6 plus are running on Kirin 920, 925 which doesn't support Vulcan API, it seems that it can't be updated to Nougat.
Will Honor provide it by any alternate means, if any?
Got it from Wiki that Kirin 920 and 925 won't support Vulcan API. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulkan_(API)

most probably it wont get as the gpu fails to be compatible with vulkan

I don't think so

Personally,I think google must remove vulcan api as requirement for update.Its like:
''Your phone has the power to handle the next at least 3 android versions,but since your gpu doesnt support vulcan api,which practically has nothing to do with running the os,fock off.''
I also think that 2 versions forward update thing should be broken,I mean we have ultra fast device with 3gb ram,it just doesnt make sense to get stuck on marshmallow,when some phones which are much weaker than our will get nougat.I even got the phone in the end of july...
Meanwhile apple bricking iphone 5 with ios 10.

MaRtYy01 said:
Personally,I think google must remove vulcan api as requirement for update.Its like:
''Your phone has the power to handle the next at least 3 android versions,but since your gpu doesnt support vulcan api,which practically has nothing to do with running the os,fock off.''
I also think that 2 versions forward update thing should be broken,I mean we have ultra fast device with 3gb ram,it just doesnt make sense to get stuck on marshmallow,when some phones which are much weaker than our will get nougat.I even got the phone in the end of july...
Meanwhile apple bricking iphone 5 with ios 10.
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yeah, thats so sad.
mainly because of some stupid decison made by google

MaRtYy01 said:
Personally,I think google must remove vulcan api as requirement for update.Its like:
''Your phone has the power to handle the next at least 3 android versions,but since your gpu doesnt support vulcan api,which practically has nothing to do with running the os,fock off.''
I also think that 2 versions forward update thing should be broken,I mean we have ultra fast device with 3gb ram,it just doesnt make sense to get stuck on marshmallow,when some phones which are much weaker than our will get nougat.I even got the phone in the end of july...
Meanwhile apple bricking iphone 5 with ios 10.
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I agree with you, because of this many great smartphones (like GS5, 1+1 G3...etc) won't get official update

MaRtYy01 said:
Personally,I think google must remove vulcan api as requirement for update.Its like:
''Your phone has the power to handle the next at least 3 android versions,but since your gpu doesnt support vulcan api,which practically has nothing to do with running the os,fock off.''
I also think that 2 versions forward update thing should be broken,I mean we have ultra fast device with 3gb ram,it just doesnt make sense to get stuck on marshmallow,when some phones which are much weaker than our will get nougat.I even got the phone in the end of july...
Meanwhile apple bricking iphone 5 with ios 10.
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It can be optional but not compulsary.
In Honor series of smartphone this affects Honor 6, 6 plus and 7.

PalakMi said:
I agree with you, because of this many great smartphones (like GS5, 1+1 G3...etc) won't get official update
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Yes indeed.The 2014 generation flagships finished the progress that the 2013 ones started,what I mean is that they are still running on almost full speed as on their launch,older flagships(galaxy s3 is a perfect example) started to get pretty laggy at some point.If vulcan api is the thing that stopped the breaking of the 2 versions forward update scheme,I hope that at least the 2015 gen ones will do it when android 8 comes out.
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vsriram92 said:
It can be optional but not compulsary.
In Honor series of smartphone this affects Honor 6, 6 plus and 7.
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I hope at least honor 7 will get the update.Its just 1 year old and got just 1 major update,deserves nougat for sure.

MaRtYy01 said:
Yes indeed.The 2014 generation flagships finished the progress that the 2013 ones started,what I mean is that they are still running on almost full speed as on their launch,older flagships(galaxy s3 is a perfect example) started to get pretty laggy at some point.If vulcan api is the thing that stopped the breaking of the 2 versions forward update scheme,I hope that at least the 2015 gen ones will do it when android 8 comes out.
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most phones should get android 7 as their gpu's have vulkan support, bt its still upto eoms, weather to update or not, even vulkan api supported phones may still be betrayed

Google is the only one to blame here

venom007 said:
most phones should get android 7 as their gpus have vulkan support, bt its still upto eoms, weather to update or not, even vulkan api supported phones may still be betrayed
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We can't do anything for betrayal by OEM.. But in this case, OEM do think to provide updates. Due to google restriction, they were unable to.

vsriram92 said:
We can't do anything for betrayal by OEM.. But in this case, OEM do think to provide updates. Due to google restriction, they were unable to.
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They're helpless

PalakMi said:
They're helpless
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Only Google can reconsider its policies if people makes the Google to know that we are heavily dissatisfied on this.

vsriram92 said:
Only Google can reconsider its policies if people makes the Google to know that we are heavily dissatisfied on this.
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It's seems that google won't listen (trying to sell the pixel no matter what)

PalakMi said:
It's seems that google won't listen (trying to sell the pixel no matter what)
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Honor 7 , Honor 6, Honor 6 plus are affected in Honor line by this decision

vsriram92 said:
Honor 7 , Honor 6, Honor 6 plus are affected in Honor line by this decision
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Those are great phones, unfortunately they won't taste nougat

Cant huawei just release updated drivers and source so devs would be able to build 7.0 themselves?It seems more realistic than a whole new official update.
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MaRtYy01 said:
Cant huawei just release updated drivers and source so devs would be able to build 7.0 themselves?It seems more realistic than a whole new official update.
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As of now, Huawei has not released most of the sources. So I doubt that this will happen.

MaRtYy01 said:
Cant huawei just release updated drivers and source so devs would be able to build 7.0 themselves?It seems more realistic than a whole new official update.
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It didn't even release the basics to building custom ROMs. I doubt they'll do ot now

They already distributed source code some time ago. But no Vulkan support, no Nougat update.

Verdict about MiA2 Lite.

Hello! I have been using A2 Lite for about six months now. I liked Mi phones. But I think A2 Lite is not up to mark as per the price charged. Especially, Android One experience. It lacks lots of features as compared to other MI phones in this range running on MIUI.
What are your thoughts on this?

Mohib86 said:
Hello! I have been using A2 Lite for about six months now. I liked Mi phones. But I think A2 Lite is not up to mark as per the price charged. Especially, Android One experience. It lacks lots of features as compared to other MI phones in this range running on MIUI.
What are your thoughts on this?
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That's the point of this phone. Stock android with no features. That's why you do your research before buying something. You could've bought Redmi 6 Pro which is basically the same device with MIUI rom.

Mohib86 said:
Hello! I have been using A2 Lite for about six months now. I liked Mi phones. But I think A2 Lite is not up to mark as per the price charged. Especially, Android One experience. It lacks lots of features as compared to other MI phones in this range running on MIUI.
What are your thoughts on this?
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What features do you really need? I had redmi 4x before and miui sucks, I dont remember any feature which would be missing...

marstonpear said:
That's the point of this phone. Stock android with no features. That's why you do your research before buying something. You could've bought Redmi 6 Pro which is basically the same device with MIUI rom.
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I did my research before buying the phone. The hardware specs are great of this phone, I'm talking about software features.

wenna.speedy said:
What features do you really need? I had redmi 4x before and miui sucks, I dont remember any feature which would be missing...
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Some very basic features, like scheduling a SMS, adding speed dial number, double tap to wake etc. Its camera's hardware is good, but it's software is not.

Mohib86 said:
Some very basic features, like scheduling a SMS, adding speed dial number, double tap to wake etc. Its camera's hardware is good, but it's software is not.
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So, why dont you try custom rom? Btw, sms scheduling works with non-native app. Dt2w - Iam using fingerprint unlocking, the fastest. And I dont think miui has this feature.

Mohib86 said:
I did my research before buying the phone. The hardware specs are great of this phone, I'm talking about software features.
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Exactly what I said. You should've bought the Redmi 6 Pro then. Which means you didn't do your research.

marstonpear said:
Exactly what I said. You should've bought the Redmi 6 Pro then. Which means you didn't do your research.
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I wanted app drawer, that's why I didn't go for Redmi 6 Pro.

wenna.speedy said:
So, why dont you try custom rom? Btw, sms scheduling works with non-native app. Dt2w - Iam using fingerprint unlocking, the fastest. And I dont think miui has this feature.
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Redmi 5A and Note 4, both have Dt2w, and they both run MIUI.

I bought this phone specifically because it didn't have MIUI on it.
Stock Android, unlockable bootloader. It's the first phone I've had that gets security updates too.
I've had it for a few months now and I still love it.

MIUI suck, give so many features that u might never use.
Those features consume CPU and battery, while stock Android has lesser feature but any feature you want you can just get them from PlayStore.
My last Xiaomi phone (Mi 4i), became super laggy until cannot unlock the screen.
Turn out it was MIUI fault because it became normal again after I flashed it with custom ROM.

From my point of view it's the perfect Android terminal.
I only miss one feature from MIUI : Scheduled turn on and off :crying:

sinthemau said:
From my point of view it's the perfect Android terminal.
I only miss one feature from MIUI : Scheduled turn on and off :crying:
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Try flight mode, almost zero consumption. -+1%/night

This phone absolutely lives up to its price point of the $159 I purchased two of them at. Great screen, great battery life, decent processor that can handle mostly everything except high end gaming, metal body, 2 of 3 American LTE bands for T-Mobile, FM radio, IR blaster, security updates monthly with Android One. MIUI is a dumpster fire and if you wanted MIUI you should've bought a Redmi.
It's a great phone.

I'm still wondering why so many people who prefer MIUI over stock android bought the A2 Lite instead of the Redmi 6 Pro which is even cheaper. Personally, I wouldn't even touch a MIUI phone with a pair of pliers.

wenna.speedy said:
Try flight mode, almost zero consumption. -+1%/night
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Yes I know but love to turn off during the night. Anyway, doesn't matter so much. Thanks

I am one of the users who has the problem of slow wifi in 2.4ghz when the bt or gps is active. The problem arises from the month of December following the update to android P. From December to today Xiaomi has not produced any patch to solve this serious problem. For me this is a serious bug and leads me to say that it was not a good buy.

Durotan said:
I am one of the users who has the problem of slow wifi in 2.4ghz when the bt or gps is active. The problem arises from the month of December following the update to android P. From December to today Xiaomi has not produced any patch to solve this serious problem. For me this is a serious bug and leads me to say that it was not a good buy.
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I flashed a custom rom on mine and have no such problem, actually no complains about the device. It's just hardware, with a proper OS on it (stock is never that) it works really good.

I bought this smartphone right after it was available version 4/64. I can tell is the best smartphone i never had, The best quality/price ratio, Battery last 9 hours sot, now you can install many custom rom, gcam makes photos great.... its fast and the display is great. Im totally satisfaited with this device. If you miss Miui than its you that bought the wrong models phone

celrau said:
I flashed a custom rom on mine and have no such problem, actually no complains about the device. It's just hardware, with a proper OS on it (stock is never that) it works really good.
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Which rom did you use? Does it support gcam?

Question Possible similar device to Neo 3T (rmx3371) ?

Hi,
My colleague want to buy the neo 3T and interested to try installing custom rom. I don't see the Neo 3T section in XDA and I find Neo 2 and Neo 3T are shared similar specs with very minor differences in camera sensor and charging speed.
I'm wondering if all unlock process downright to custom kernel and roms are compatible to each other, does anyone can shed some lights?

i have same question

+1 attention

I have Neo 3T and looking for answer too ;-)

but you will never get an answer because there is no one here...
Some devs post their roms but never answer questions...

Although they are almost identical in terms of spec, the kernel/IO driver that runs from respective motherboard might be different. Let's say in terms of the battery charging control for both. The kernel will control this component and it is the way it differentiates both models. Even if you succeed on flashing the rom, some component on the software or hardware might crash and cannot work properly.

Alifirdaus said:
Although they are almost identical in terms of spec, the kernel/IO driver that runs from respective motherboard might be different. Let's say in terms of the battery charging control for both. The kernel will control this component and it is the way it differentiates both models. Even if you succeed on flashing the rom, some component on the software or hardware might crash and cannot work properly.
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Thanks a lot for your message. Yes, that is absolutely clear. At the moment, I will be very happy just to have working TWRP ;-) Do you think that this could be done?

AndriiG said:
... to have working TWRP
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The TWRP-3.7.0-12-0-RMX3371 doesn't work?

RMX3311 said:
The TWRP-3.7.0-12-0-RMX3371 doesn't work?
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@AndriiG try this

I don't like Neo 3T. You cant do 120 fps gaming on it, and multitasking is bad. I recommend Mi 11 lite 5G NE

Question Xiaomi 13 opensourced their kernel

Seems custom rom is on the way?(Is any developers take interest on it?🥹
GitHub - MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource: Xiaomi Mobile Phone Kernel OpenSource
Xiaomi Mobile Phone Kernel OpenSource. Contribute to MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com

Over a year since the code was released for the 12 pro and nothing.
The source codes are incomplete for some devices (Confirm by devs I contacted)and the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen can also be a problem because no rom also for Samsung or One Plus.

NOSS8 said:
Over a year since the code was released for the 12 pro and nothing.
The source codes are incomplete for some devices (Confirm by devs I contacted)and the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen can also be a problem because no rom also for Samsung or One Plus.
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I could not found any AOSP based ROM for Snapdragon 8Gen1/2. So keep using my OnePlus 9 Pro x Evolution X. (and miss my hard bricked Pixel 6 Pro )

Aquariuslt said:
I could not found any AOSP based ROM for Snapdragon 8Gen1/2. So keep using my OnePlus 9 Pro x Evolution X. (and miss my hard bricked Pixel 6 Pro )
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FYI: Zenfone 9 has a couple that came out a month or two ago. 8 Plus Gen 1

Veiranx said:
FYI: Zenfone 9 has a couple that came out a month or two ago. 8 Plus Gen 1
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Looks like Asus is the last bastion of hope, maybe Nothing phone 2 will come and save us all ?

Jbrimb said:
Looks like Asus is the last bastion of hope, maybe Nothing phone 2 will come and save us all ?
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Perhaps those other phones simply don't have developers to volunteer their time. I am eventually lumbering my way towards ROM development and am interested in the hardware of the 13.
Coming from a Snapdragon 870 (Poco F3, still solid) that has a host of other custom ROMs for me to practice with.

Veiranx said:
Perhaps those other phones simply don't have developers to volunteer their time. I am eventually lumbering my way towards ROM development and am interested in the hardware of the 13.
Coming from a Snapdragon 870 (Poco F3, still solid) that has a host of other custom ROMs for me to practice with.
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I personally have an X3 pro, a bit less solid and I'd like an amoled screen
But i'm afraid I'd would be disappointed if i switched, coming from a phone with so much roms (I even have installed windows 11 on it)

Actual Windows 11?! Or is it a home screen replacement for android?

Veiranx said:
Actual Windows 11?! Or is it a home screen replacement for android?
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Yeah actual Windows 11 for Arm64, I've also installed it on my one plus 6. It's available for a few android devices : https://renegade-project.tech/en/state
There has been some work for poco f3 as well i think

Xiaomi Shows No Interest in Releasing Kernel Source Code of its Devices
Xiaomi is having a good time in all the smartphone markets over the world releasing numerous devices. It is popular for producing budget-friendly phones. It has a great user base in the Indian market…
www.thecustomdroid.com
but
newer platforms all use GKI, which means it's identical between devices, even if the SoC vendors are different.
Not sure that they are obliged to release source codes for vendor kernel modules, those are proprietary.

The fuxi-oss-t branch has removed by xiaomi and dont know reason

Aquariuslt said:
The fuxi-oss-t branch has removed by xiaomi and dont know reason
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It's back

LordTonoicu said:
It's back
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Link?

GitHub - MiCode/kernel_devicetree at fuxi-t-oss
kenrel devicetree project for xiaomi kernel opensource - GitHub - MiCode/kernel_devicetree at fuxi-t-oss
github.com
Edit: i guess they just renamed it from fuxi-oss-t to fuxi-t-oss

LordTonoicu said:
GitHub - MiCode/kernel_devicetree at fuxi-t-oss
kenrel devicetree project for xiaomi kernel opensource - GitHub - MiCode/kernel_devicetree at fuxi-t-oss
github.com
Edit: i guess they just renamed it from fuxi-oss-t to fuxi-t-oss
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T=>Tiramisu android 13

LordTonoicu said:
GitHub - MiCode/kernel_devicetree at fuxi-t-oss
kenrel devicetree project for xiaomi kernel opensource - GitHub - MiCode/kernel_devicetree at fuxi-t-oss
github.com
Edit: i guess they just renamed it from fuxi-oss-t to fuxi-t-oss
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It's different from archived one. https://github.com/Mandi-Sa/micode-fuxi-t-oss

I will never understand why people ask for AOSP roms so much. Google's material you aesthetic is horrible, and customization is sorely lacking. The best of xiaomi is MIUI.

sakun-ice said:
I will never understand why people ask for AOSP roms so much. Google's material you aesthetic is horrible, and customization is sorely lacking. The best of xiaomi is MIUI.
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Its a matter of taste.
I also 'hated' miui 11/12 back in the years, but after i tried miui14 now on x13 i must admit, that pretty much good and fluid UI now. I like it now.

sakun-ice said:
I will never understand why people ask for AOSP roms so much. Google's material you aesthetic is horrible, and customization is sorely lacking. The best of xiaomi is MIUI.
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One of the main advantages, not to mention the additional settings, is that you can use an Android version that is no longer provided by Xiaomi.
For customization from A12, it's ugly.

Aquariuslt said:
It's different from archived one. https://github.com/Mandi-Sa/micode-fuxi-t-oss
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Now indeed is added back https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/fuxi-t-oss