Would it be possible to see a Sense based ROM for the Pixel? I figured it might be considering its HTC hardware.
Since sense rom are not open source its very unlikely
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If someone ports it over to Pixel then sure. It really is a lot of work with very little reward though. Probably would be pretty buggy too.
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Hey guys, why is there only one (with many problems) sense rom for the nexus s? what is it that makes it so hard to port?
Having come from the HTC Dream where there is always an abundace of (insert random sense phone here) sense rom ports, it seems very odd that the Nexus S doesn't have them.
Htc sense is proprietary code. The only way to port is in smali and aosp devs don't like smali. I don't mind working with it but no plans on working with it (sense).
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Another question is why isn't there any touchwiz port yet? Sgs and ns are very similar phones both made by samsung. There is a sense rom which is pretty functional, but no touchwiz? COMON!
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Maybe because stock Android is better and faster than these bloated third party UIs?
tekkitan said:
Maybe because stock Android is better and faster than these bloated third party UIs?
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Agreed most of us are on aosp to escape all that bloat if you want the latest touch wiz interface I suggest the samsung within
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asb123 said:
Hey guys, why is there only one (with many problems) sense rom for the nexus s? what is it that makes it so hard to port?
Having come from the HTC Dream where there is always an abundace of (insert random sense phone here) sense rom ports, it seems very odd that the Nexus S doesn't have them.
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Your Dream was made by HTC.
Sense is made by HTC.
The Nexus S is made by Samsung.
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Maybe because stock Android is better and faster than these bloated third party UIs?
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I have heard this so many times that it turned into a pathetic cliche...
Your statement has no sense btw, it would be a ROM with root acces so system apps can easily be unninstalled. I would use touchwiz for the graphic acceleration alone, in the browser.
You can even get rid of it's launcher, you can delete absolutely everything you want and you would still have the features from touchwizz, like codec support out of the box and maybe the cool camera app. But I repeat, the browser alone would be the biggest feature.
Edit: Touchwizz is not an UI, its a ROM with extra features.
generally people that would buy a nexus dont want the propriatary UIs. thats why they bought a nexus, to avoid that extra bloat.
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I have heard this so many times that it turned into a pathetic cliche...
Your statement has no sense btw, it would be a ROM with root acces so system apps can easily be unninstalled. I would use touchwiz for the graphic acceleration alone, in the browser.
You can even get rid of it's launcher, you can delete absolutely everything you want and you would still have the features from touchwizz, like codec support out of the box and maybe the cool camera app. But I repeat, the browser alone would be the biggest feature.
Edit: Touchwizz is not an UI, its a ROM with extra features.
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The hardware is different the camera alone wouldn't work for us
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dreamsforgotten said:
The hardware is different the camera alone wouldn't work for us
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The closest similar phone to the NS on the market is SGS. There is a port for HTC Sense which comes from a totally different phone, totally different CPU and GPU and touchwizz can't be ported? I really, really doubt it.
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The closest similar phone to the NS on the market is SGS. There is a port for HTC Sense which comes from a totally different phone, totally different CPU and GPU and touchwizz can't be ported? I really, really doubt it.
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No once said it can't be ported, my statement was addressing the end of your previous post having the codexes and camera app. You can't because the hw is different. The camera in the sgs, is capable of 720p recording, ours is not. Just because porting touchwiz is possible I would never expect to see it I promise no dev has the interest in it. You should have went with the sgs2 a newer updated tw than on the sgs.
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...want Sense 3.6 to be the final Sense version that we get for the Sensation? I mean, I love it. It's great. Obviously a more polished version makes sense, however, I think this sense version is pretty great. (I've had tons of Sense phones and have used many roms.) Sense 4.0 looks so... Blah... to me. That plain grey, I like it on AOSP and in the menus on Sense 3.6... but for it to be the launcher bar on the bottom... I dunno. I feel like they are doing away with the glassy gloss of Sense that made me love it.
Anyone else agree?
Yes, I would love to see sense die, but it seems to be popular enough to some that it keeps HTC making it. These custom skins also give a layer of distinction between manufacturers. I know my next phone will be a Nexus phone or a phone that active and successful AOSP based roms. I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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They do open the kernel source up, but IIRC it's only after a phone or update with that version of the kernel is shipped this occurs.
So my guess is once they push out the ICS update they will make the kernel source available here: http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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Yes, I would love to see sense die, but it seems to be popular enough to some that it keeps HTC making it. These custom skins also give a layer of distinction between manufacturers. I know my next phone will be a Nexus phone or a phone that active and successful AOSP based roms. I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Sense. However, I don't like the direction they are going with Sense 4.0. I would like the new landscape rosie and lockscreen, other than that... Sense 3.6 is the way I like my Sensation.
Μe too,I think now they are making it too grey ang ugly for me.sense 3.6 has that touch polish you can't see elsewhere.
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I think 3.6 is kinda ugly. Those grays are very real in Sense 3.6 but they have a bluish tint to them. I just wish the current releases weren't so laggy. Sure, they're stable and the lag is tolerable, but nothing beats AOSP 4.0
Personally I can't stand sense, but thats just a personal preference. I didn't realize how much I disliked it until I received a sense device. I used to think it was just a skin and a different launcher would fix it.
It would be great if HTC offered factory baked AOSP roms as an option. So those who want a regular android experience will continue to buy HTC phones and can do so without voiding their warranty. I get why people like sense, even more when you take it back to windows mobile 6.x (touchflo), but as long as sense is a part of HTC phones for the future, I will no longer buy phones from them. Except for 9 months on blackberry I have had only HTC phones for at least 6 years.
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I think 3.6 is kinda ugly. Those grays are very real in Sense 3.6 but they have a bluish tint to them. I just wish the current releases weren't so laggy. Sure, they're stable and the lag is tolerable, but nothing beats AOSP 4.0
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Blue tint is a bug affecting some users. Flash this kernel to fix it: 1.512_GHz_overclocked_kernel_3.0.16-g9788208_by_SebastianFM.zip
You can't really complain about Sense 4.0 when no one has even used it.
All you've seen so far are leaked videos and pictures. It could still change before it's released.
i might pick up one of those things soon (i'm feeling serious G.A.S!!!), so i just want to know if this phone will see a lot of roms, considering the camera chip... if you think it'll slow down the development significantly, please leave a reply and explain yourself, i'll be very grateful. i'm coming from a desire z, is there anything i have to take into further consideration before buying ? cheers
For sense roms.. no. For AOSP roms, it's possible. Maybe in AOSP roms the ImageSense chip will just be ignored/disabled. I don't see it as a huge hinderance though, just a camera hinderance.
Debateable question. Currently loads of older phones still haven't got fully working camera on asop roms. It will be a 'long' time before the one s has a fully functioning cm9. For the while the no sense roms are sweet. The only difference is the settings....and a few other bits.development will kick in.there are devs working on it. As for the one s...its a beautiful piece of phone. Dont be put off by your asop wish...I love cm...but be honest the no sense roms are great till it arrives. If not Lee Droid is coming soon..so tweaks ahoy..
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It's not because i need an aosp rom, i'm more concerned about longterm-upgrade-ability. If HTC decides to not include the imagechip technology in newer iterations of sense, would it be left behind?
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Well they just developed it... I don't see them already leaving it behind especially with as beautiful the pictures turn out with if. I used it through the weekend and I'm very impressed with the quality. It my be a bit before it gets worked into rom development, but I don't think they are gonna drop it any time soon
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Weird question...would it be possible to port a sense 3.6 ics Rom?
I'm not dev, but just based on what I've seen in the past:
Just about anything is "hypothetically possible". Now whether its practically feasible or not, is an entirely different (and more important) question. There comes a point, where the work to port the ROM is simply too much, and it just doesn't make sense to port (poor cost versus benefit).
At a minimum, if the device the ROM is being ported from has a different screen resolution, all of the launcher graphics need to be resized, which is a good amount of work.
Not sure, but the hardware might need to be similar as well. If not, the hardware drivers are all wrong, and its way too much work to create new drivers.
Probably trumping all this, is that Sense 3.6 is pretty obsolete at this point. Variety in ROMs is usually a goodthing. But the usual point of porting, is to get the latest and greatest on the device. Older versions of Sense are typically going to be seen as a step backwards, and therefore generate little (if any) developer interest.
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Weird question...would it be possible to port a sense 3.6 ics Rom?
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If the kernel is similiar to a past one xl kernel than it makes things much easier. As well as stated above with resolution.
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There's someone in android themes porting a sense 3 6 theme/skin to jellybean. Haven't checked in the progress though
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Will that benefit us, HTC One X users? Sense was ported from One to One X and its my daily driver,yes some things don't work but with elementalx kernel this is the fastest ROM yet and I tried a lot of them. CM10.1 and all other open source ROMs can't make a daily driver stable ROM till this day, so do you think someone will port One's ROM to One X?
Not sure why they'd need to since we can just build it from source... It's just stock android, is all
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Not sure why they'd need to since we can just build it from source... It's just stock android, is all
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Things like bluetooth and camera may benefit, would it not? Might also help plug any remain holes in the code that might makeup the difference in battery life between Sense and AOSP.
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Things like bluetooth and camera may benefit, would it not? Might also help plug any remain holes in the code that might makeup the difference in battery life between Sense and AOSP.
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It might, but they are using a different chipset
Next nightly is already incorporating merges based off "Google Edition" source.
http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/#/evita/next
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/44819/
One thing I read from the Verge is battery life on the One Google Edition is suppose to be improved over its Sense 5 counterpart. That's always been the contrary with the One X. I'm optimistic they'll be able leverage what they find and apply it to Evita.
Also curious what it'll mean
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edditnyc said:
Next nightly is already incorporating merges based off "Google Edition" source.
http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/#/evita/next
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/44819/
One thing I read from the Verge is battery life on the One Google Edition is suppose to be improved over its Sense 5 counterpart. That's always been the contrary with the One X. I'm optimistic they'll be able leverage what they find and apply it to Evita.
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Agreed. Battery life is the thing that's currently keeping me on Sense based ROMs with the One XL.