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My Himalaya is starting to get pretty flaky - it's given many years of excellent service and I'll be sad to see it go. But I pretty much have to replace it so I started researching and have struck a snag:
While I'd love to get a Touch HD, if for no other reason than the 3.5 mm audio jack, the unit is way overpriced for my taste so it's not an option.
All of the phones on my shortlist have the EXTUSB interface and I'm wondering just how resilient that is?
I carry my Himalaya in the inner pocket of my motorbike jacket and listen to music whilst riding ... this hasn't been a problem with the 2.5 mm jack - does anyone think it would be a problem with an EXTUSB plug?
Scotty
My experience with miniUSB ports (essentially the same stuff) has shown them to be pretty damn durable... it may tend to get a bit loose (it'll become easy to unplug it accidentally; although will still maintain a connection without issue) but it won't outright break...that said, that may be different with extUSB
I suggest you invest in a stereo bluetooth headset... they're quite good these days; although I guess having another thing to charge is a bit of a pain
I hate HTC, if they are too incompetent to fit a 3.5mm hole in the phone atleast include a adapter.
but no.. so instead I had to wait 2 weeks for this one before I could use my phone:
http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/36/_SD_MiniUSB-3.5mma
But after a week it broke, only one channel audio but it still worked if you fiddled with it so that it's only half inserted, but then it completely stopped working (so that you just can't listen to anything while walking).
So then I changed it on warranty to a new cable and now the exact same scenario has happened.
Has this happened to anyone else and do you have any recommendation?
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I hate HTC, if they are too incompetent to fit a 3.5mm hole in the phone atleast include a adapter.
but no.. so instead I had to wait 2 weeks for this one before I could use my phone:
http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/36/_SD_MiniUSB-3.5mma
But after a week it broke, only one channel audio but it still worked if you fiddled with it so that it's only half inserted, but then it completely stopped working (so that you just can't listen to anything while walking).
So then I changed it on warranty to a new cable and now the exact same scenario has happened.
Has this happened to anyone else and do you have any recommendation?
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HTC didn't include an adapter? My Fuze had one. Thank you AT&T! The old one I had for my Tilt works fine.
My recommendation is buy the official one and not some cheapy like that one.
Here is the real deal: http://store.wmexperts.com/htc-multifunction-audio-adapter/11A176A4401.htm
I have this one:
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02373&dept_id=001&cat_id=0413
bought it at ebay for 3€ (2€ transport ) and I think it's the best choice for headphones, because there is no chance to break something in it while putting it into pocket etc... (omg my english... )
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I hate HTC, if they are too incompetent to fit a 3.5mm hole in the phone atleast include a adapter.
but no.. so instead I had to wait 2 weeks for this one before I could use my phone:
http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/36/_SD_MiniUSB-3.5mma
But after a week it broke, only one channel audio but it still worked if you fiddled with it so that it's only half inserted, but then it completely stopped working (so that you just can't listen to anything while walking).
So then I changed it on warranty to a new cable and now the exact same scenario has happened.
Has this happened to anyone else and do you have any recommendation?
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Hmmmmm.... I bought a couple of those style on ebay back when i had my Tilt, both of them broke. One out of the box had the issue you explained where only one side would work. the other worked for a while but broke after a short period of time. Most definitely these are junk.
I bought another style as well, but it had other issues. Would play though stereo headphones or speakers just fine, but for some reason tilt would make calls while listening to media, fuze did the same. It was a three in one type looked like this one: http://store.wmexperts.com/htc-3-in-1-usb-adapter/11A176A3571.htm .
I havent really used the HTC one that came with the fuze other than a couple of times when i first got it, and was playing with FM radio. Build quality seems strong. Phone didnt make calls while i was listening to media .
I have a couple of these:
http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html
They're compact, no cable, and have mini usb for charging (and cheap). Seem pretty durable. Works on my Kaiser, Fuze.
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I bought one of those that snathanb recommended and same F***KING PROBLEM.
This is my 6th audio-cable now, do I have to sell my £500 phone and buy another one just so I can listen to audio in my regular headphones..
And guess what, because this one is officially from HTC ("the real deal" as snathanb put it) they refuses to give me warranty on it!!
Heres the answer I got from HTC warranty support(after having to explain to them 5 times that its not a phone, its a cable FOR a phone) :
"Thank you for your feedback. You can certainly buy a new cable. Please see available accessories on our website at: www.htc.com Thank you."
yeah those suck too, go with the ones with no wire. they are on ebay for about $6 US shipped. I just ordered one. You're asking for trouble with any that have wires. As a side note, you are better off building your own male to male 3.5mm cable with parts from radio shack if you know how. It isn't hard, plus you can use higher quality parts.
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This is my 6th audio-cable now...
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6 cables from multiple manufacturers...
Still on my first cable. I wonder if perhaps you should take a bit better care of the adapter; they appear to be a bit fragile.
Hopefully HTC will have the 3.5 adapter right in the phone someday.
Doug M.
ftdn2006 said:
yeah those suck too, go with the ones with no wire. they are on ebay for about $6 US shipped. I just ordered one. You're asking for trouble with any that have wires. As a side note, you are better off building your own male to male 3.5mm cable with parts from radio shack if you know how. It isn't hard, plus you can use higher quality parts.
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Thanks thats good advice that its probably the cable bit that is the problem so the noncable ones might work, unfortunately they are impossible to get in the UK
Which makes me so angry that if HTC are so cheap they cant even include a cable with the product they should atleast not make me have to chase the cable all around the globe,
I found one on ebay but the seller is in Hongkong.
mackay: all I do is walk with them 20min to work every day, I guess that puts a certain repetive tear on them but it should not even be close to damaging the cable.
whatledog said:
I have a couple of these:
http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html
They're compact, no cable, and have mini usb for charging (and cheap). Seem pretty durable. Works on my Kaiser, Fuze.
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how are the sound qualities from these guys? do they give the background static noises like the cable ones? So far only the original dongle and this other adapter with built-in mic I got off ebay offer good sound quality. I'm looking for another adapter just for music only though.
i got the orginal HTC 3.5mm adaptor and it happens to mine sometimes as well where the audio will cut ou t of one or two headphones. i think its because I keep it in my pocket and the wire is always twisting and bending, something you have to live with tho if you don't want to switch to bluetooth
And people wonder why the iphone is eating every HTC + Microsoft device's lunch.
WAKE THE F*** UP, HTC! People don't want to deal with stupid chintzy adapters to listen to music on their $500 phone!
anyone have this problem. with all other phone i have before all of them i can answer or make a call while i am enjoying my music. d i9000 have no problem calling out or picking up, but the phone call can't be here through the headphone i have to unplug it and use the phone speaker. anyone can help me out here? many thanks.
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anyone have this problem. with all other phone i have before all of them i can answer or make a call while i am enjoying my music. d i9000 have no problem calling out or picking up, but the phone call can't be here through the headphone i have to unplug it and use the phone speaker. anyone can help me out here? many thanks.
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same here.. I wonder why....
anyone else have this problem? have anyone try with the oem samsung headset? we r stuck to use with the oem 1?
same here ... i think we need an option to say use headphones instead of headset which it is looking for .
The galaxy s seems to have a non standard alignment (probably because it isnt standardised) If i listent to music through headphones that have a mic on it doesn't sound right because i believe its playing through the wrong channels (trying to play sound through the mic probably!).
I think you're screwed, use a bluetooth headset instead.
I'm having the same problem. I couldn't understand why it wouldn't put voice calls through my own earphones (obviously without microphone). So I bought a Griffin Smarttalk adapter hoping this would sort it and I still have no luck. Even though this adds the three contacts to the headphone jack, still no calls will come through my earphones. Very frustrating. Whether or not this is a non-standard alignment, it should be fixable with software as the phone is able to play media through standard earphones. Why can't something so simple just work.
ok guys, heres the thing
the samsung headphone jack layout is four pole t/r/r/s left right mic ground i think
it will not recognize an aftermarket headset with iphone jack config where the ground and mic is reversed or t/r/r/s left right ground mic
the samsung pin layout is similar to nokia's
i had a problem with my triplefi10vi too
so i got my old nokia 5310 headset adapter with mic and used it.
the layout is SGS<-nokia adaptor wiith mic<-triplefi10 standard cable without mic<-triplefi10
worked perfect
i can control the playback and answer call with the nokia phone adapter and it all gets routed to my triplefi10 iems
Yikes, your solution sounds like a Rube Goldberg contraption. An adapter to an adapter to the headsets.
This really sucks. Would have been a deal breaker for me had I known about it before buying the Galaxy S without option to return unless defective.
I wish some of the 100's of glowing reviews on the internet about this phone had caught this. All my headsets work with iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G, iPods, my MacBook Pro, etc...the Samsung's the only one with issues. Ugh.
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ok guys, heres the thing
the samsung headphone jack layout is four pole t/r/r/s left right mic ground i think
it will not recognize an aftermarket headset with iphone jack config where the ground and mic is reversed or t/r/r/s left right ground mic
the samsung pin layout is similar to nokia's
i had a problem with my triplefi10vi too
so i got my old nokia 5310 headset adapter with mic and used it.
the layout is SGS<-nokia adaptor wiith mic<-triplefi10 standard cable without mic<-triplefi10
worked perfect
i can control the playback and answer call with the nokia phone adapter and it all gets routed to my triplefi10 iems
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furstrated said:
ok guys, heres the thing
the samsung headphone jack layout is four pole t/r/r/s left right mic ground i think
it will not recognize an aftermarket headset with iphone jack config where the ground and mic is reversed or t/r/r/s left right ground mic
the samsung pin layout is similar to nokia's
i had a problem with my triplefi10vi too
so i got my old nokia 5310 headset adapter with mic and used it.
the layout is SGS<-nokia adaptor wiith mic<-triplefi10 standard cable without mic<-triplefi10
worked perfect
i can control the playback and answer call with the nokia phone adapter and it all gets routed to my triplefi10 iems
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So I'm wondering if it wouldn't be easier for those of us who don't have the parts you already do to get something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Ada..._1_2?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1278989309&sr=1-2
and then just cut into it and cross the appropriate wires to give the proper t/r/r/s wiring. I think I'll run over to Best Buy and see if I can find something similar and give it a try.
I successfully made an adapter by taking a short 4-pole extension cord for iPhones and then cross-wired the mic and ground wires. On the iphone it's t/r/r/s (L/R/G/M) and on the Samsung it's t/r/r/s (L/R/M/G) - on the adapter I cut the cord open, then soldered the G->M and M->G.
Works great. Music volume perfect, headset works for mic and headphones in phone calls, and the mic switch answers/hangs-up the phone as well as pause/play music player.
I'm happily using my Etymotics HF2s on the Samsung with full functionality as I type this.
This is the kind of stuff I wish the industry would standardize on. iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G all wired the same, but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way. Silliness.
This does not sound good.
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This is the kind of stuff I wish the industry would standardize on. iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G all wired the same, but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way. Silliness.
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While I agree with you, honestly, the way I read this is you mean that Samsung and Nokia have it wrong. Which, on the surface, I just flatly disagree with. Now, anyone with facts can set me right, if Apple's interface is better from a quality standpoint then so-beit.
BUT...and this assume's I read your comment right, sense you essentially mean that since the iPhone, N1 & Evo 4G, then the two biggest cell phone manufacturers in the world have it wrong...Please keep in mind Apple is the new comer and that HTC, while having a long history with OEM builds that got rebranded, doesn't really have a long, storied history.
NO, what he is saying is that he wishes that all manufacturers would adopt the same pin-out. This would benefit everyone as then we could use any headset that we preferred especially as the Samsung is an in-ear type and they don't make and ear-bud type for the SGS which I would prefer. The SGS supplied headset would have been a deal breaker for me too if it was advertised prior to purchase.
peterfz30 said:
NO, what he is saying is that he wishes that all manufacturers would adopt the same pin-out. This would benefit everyone as then we could use any headset that we preferred especially as the Samsung is an in-ear type and they don't make and ear-bud type for the SGS which I would prefer. The SGS supplied headset would have been a deal breaker for me too if it was advertised prior to purchase.
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Correct, that was my only point as it was written. I don't care who is right or wrong, I just want my aftermarket parts on something this ubiquitous to be interchangeable.
Buying a cheap cable and rewiring it isn't a big deal for me, but for most consumers it's probably never going to happen. There must be some third party adapter that works for exactly this, but I didn't find any with some quick searches that I was sure would work.
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While I agree with you, honestly, the way I read this is you mean that Samsung and Nokia have it wrong. Which, on the surface, I just flatly disagree with. Now, anyone with facts can set me right, if Apple's interface is better from a quality standpoint then so-beit.
BUT...and this assume's I read your comment right, sense you essentially mean that since the iPhone, N1 & Evo 4G, then the two biggest cell phone manufacturers in the world have it wrong...Please keep in mind Apple is the new comer and that HTC, while having a long history with OEM builds that got rebranded, doesn't really have a long, storied history.
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Wow, I really don't want to get into a pissing contest debate over who has it right and who has it wrong. That's really the only thing you took away from my post?
My background, as indicated in the signature below is mostly Apple and HTC products, so of course from my point of view, that's the "correct" way. LOL.
Seriously, my only real point, as said above is that I wish this were industry standardized. There's probably some secret agenda out there to sell more headsets by not making them not easily swapped between other products. I can imagine most normal consumers whose Etymotics or Bose or whatever didn't work from one phone to another just buying a new pair that did. Lots more sales for the manufacturers that way.
Since we're Android users in this forum, if I were going to debate who has it right or wrong OFFICIALLY for Android, I'd point out that the HTC/Google Nexus One is the officially anointed chosen phone from Google, and the official "reference phone" to show manufacturers what Google thinks is the right way to do an Android device. Since the Nexus One has the t/r/r/s of L/R/G/M format, it is the official Google way to design an Android phone.
In reality, Google probably didn't pay that much attention to that kind of thing, or if they did, they chose to go with the iPhone pattern as part of some strategy. Apple probably went opposite the industry norm for the reason of just being jack-asses with their i/o ports and because Steve didn't want you using anything but Apple headsets.
That said, and five minutes wasted arguing a point I don't really care about, I'll let you say you won the debate and I'll acknowledge that Apple/HTC/Google as the newcomers must be wrong with their design.
It still doesn't change the fact that I wish this were standardized across the industry, whatever the standard is, which was all I said originally. Note that my original post that you quoted said:
"but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way"
not "but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same wrong way."
Big difference in the meaning of those two statements.
Take care!
dinfung said:
anyone have this problem. with all other phone i have before all of them i can answer or make a call while i am enjoying my music. d i9000 have no problem calling out or picking up, but the phone call can't be here through the headphone i have to unplug it and use the phone speaker. anyone can help me out here? many thanks.
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that sounds like my old Treo 650 / 600
If you use Bluetooth, you wont have that problem
Don't forget htc only recently started to use standard 35mm jacks, before it was 25mm and mini usb. God how that annoyed winmo users like me
Sent back in time from my Samsung Galaxy SSS
ickyboo said:
Don't forget htc only recently started to use standard 35mm jacks, before it was 25mm and mini usb. God how that annoyed winmo users like me
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The explains the plethora of 3.5 to 2.5 adapters on the Amazon market.
i really hated those 2.5mm plugs it was always annoying, i still have about 5 of those adapters at home that i don't use
from the time when i used my Treo in a daily basis
distortedloop said:
I successfully made an adapter by taking a short 4-pole extension cord for iPhones and then cross-wired the mic and ground wires. On the iphone it's t/r/r/s (L/R/G/M) and on the Samsung it's t/r/r/s (L/R/M/G) - on the adapter I cut the cord open, then soldered the G->M and M->G.
Works great. Music volume perfect, headset works for mic and headphones in phone calls, and the mic switch answers/hangs-up the phone as well as pause/play music player.
I'm happily using my Etymotics HF2s on the Samsung with full functionality as I type this.
This is the kind of stuff I wish the industry would standardize on. iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G all wired the same, but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way. Silliness.
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Great man. Can you post a picture?i am looking for a non cord solution.
So with an angle. Would that be possible?
Ciao valentijn
How about just an ordinary headset
How about using just an ordinary stereo headset like I do on all of my Nokias an iPhones?
Samsung should recognize it doesn't have a microphone and use the built in one, like all other phones in the world.
I can'd say it's a deal breaker but is pain in ass.
I can only hope it is software related and can be fixed in the future.
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Does anybody know of a music dock with speaker and amplifier to play music?
There is several avalibel for the iPhone but i can't finde any for the DHD :-(
I'd also like any information on this too. I've missed a great music dock since my W800i.
It amazes me that there is such a huge selection of iPod docks yet I do not know of one single mini USB dock - wtf?
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deekod said:
It amazes me that there is such a huge selection of iPod docks yet I do not know of one single mini USB dock - wtf? ...
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Yeah. Sometimes it's just easier to go with the flow! In the sense that if a music dock was a deal-breaker then best get an iPod/iPhone as there're plenty of alternatives.
Though you can get Bluetooth ones or ones with a 3.5mm aux input which would work. Depends whether you want to charge at the same time. It'd be nice to.
Dave
PS: don't ask me for links as I've seen them whilst *surfing* the web but not book-marked them as I'm not after one myself!
Any news about this ? I'm interested of buying one 'music dock'. Anyone found something?
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Maybe something like this ... http://www.gromaudio.com/store/accessories/cable-c-ipd2jk.html ... will allow you to use ipod stuff? Not tried one myself though.
Dave
Why not just buy a pair of PC speakers?
I cant really see what docking would add extra feature-wise. Unless you can simulate the buttons from the headphones.
PC speakers? Hardly a great way to listen to music from our DHD's.
A dock I am after will hold the DHD, charge it & play music from it.
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PC speakers? Hardly a great way to listen to music from our DHD's.
A dock I am after will hold the DHD, charge it & play music from it.
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It will still be a hellovalot better than the builtin speaker
Edit: Are you looking for something portable? That you keep on your lap? My 10 year old Creative Inspire 440 4.1 speaker set is small and makes a crap load of noise.
I'm after something that would sit happily on a sideboard or table, and not look out of place.
I ideally want the DHD equivalent of the B&W Zeppelin iPod HiFi system. I can dream....
If we can't find a complete set, I think a simple dock with 3.5mm out it will be good ... with a good set of speakers.
I run a 3.5mm to L+R RCA cable to a NAD Amp, running to 2 floor standing 300w Speakers and I can tells you ... I certainly get better sound than any of the iPod docks get!
Spare charger runs right next to it on a phone stand thing and I'm sorted.
I posted the adaptor cable earlier but that was only for interest. On my office desk I have a Celjel stand and connect a mains charger and an amp to my DHD. The amp is connected to my PC as well but I use an amp so that I can use decent speakers ....
In the living room where my main stereo is I was going to get one of these ... http://www.amazon.co.uk/QED-uPLAY-WIRELESS-BLUETOOTH-RECEIVER/dp/B003BF0OF2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_6 ... sounds expensive but it gets great reviews. So then the DHD gets played through my floor standing Mission speakers .. . All I need on top of that is a cheap fleabay charging stand for it to sit on the stereo stand. Sorted!
Dave
I know this is a slightly old thread but wondering if anyone has found a good music dock? I am after a small portable music dock, preferably one which charges the DHD at the same time, but would settle for a decent one with just 3.5mm connector.
Any recommendations?
I love it when old, but still useful, threads get revived.
Sadly I could not find a dock that I liked. So I made my own from a chunk of timber, a male to male 3.5mm jack and my wifes old SGS charger.
It took about 5 hours to get it right and sanded down, finished with a coat of teak oil.
I roughly followed this guide, but its set about 4-5mm into the wood leaning back and has a smaller back board.
Perfect bank holiday weekend project!
I wish you could just buy something like this http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/ instead of having to make it yourself
andyharney said:
I love it when old, but still useful, threads get revived.
Sadly I could not find a dock that I liked. So I made my own from a chunk of timber, a male to male 3.5mm jack and my wifes old SGS charger.
It took about 5 hours to get it right and sanded down, finished with a coat of teak oil.
I roughly followed ***, but its set about 4-5mm into the wood leaning back and has a smaller back board.
Perfect bank holiday weekend project!
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sromer said:
I wish you could just buy something like this *** instead of having to make it yourself
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a combi of the two would be a nice solution, a wooden dock-thingy...
Although its a bit inconvenient, i plug my charger in and my logitech z2300s. Absolutely amazing sound with srs turned on.
Hi, i previously had an iphone for which i used a JBL On Stage Micro (v2) dock. Now i have a Sensation i was looking for a way of possibly connecting it to the docking station, it has a Audio in / Usb / Audio Out connectors at the back. So i was wondering;
1) what leads (if any) would i need to make this work
2) If i cant do above, what basic audio docks are out there that i can use with my htc sensation?
Thanks for your time
easiest method is to just get a male-to-male 3.5mm headphone cable, but that defeats the purpose of a "dock", but will still sound pretty much the same.
the only other option is prolly to mod and hack the **** out of that thing
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easiest method is to just get a male-to-male 3.5mm headphone cable, but that defeats the purpose of a "dock", but will still sound pretty much the same.
the only other option is prolly to mod and hack the **** out of that thing
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seems silly the lack of speaker docks for the galaxy s2 (my gf's phone) and the sensation. we only want something to take on holiday in a weeks time.
thanks anyway
well they did just come out, and from my experience, the ONLY company that has docks out at launch or earlier are apple speaker docks, but thats only cuz companies like altec, bose and monster have to pay out the ass for all of apples many, many patents
hopefully altec or imotion come out with a really nice HTC this-gen speaker dock, but im not holding my breath, they prefer to cover a broader, more consistant market :/
it's annoying that everyone makes all of these Apple docks bug none for any other cell phones