[Q] Speaker Dock - HTC Sensation

Hi, i previously had an iphone for which i used a JBL On Stage Micro (v2) dock. Now i have a Sensation i was looking for a way of possibly connecting it to the docking station, it has a Audio in / Usb / Audio Out connectors at the back. So i was wondering;
1) what leads (if any) would i need to make this work
2) If i cant do above, what basic audio docks are out there that i can use with my htc sensation?
Thanks for your time

easiest method is to just get a male-to-male 3.5mm headphone cable, but that defeats the purpose of a "dock", but will still sound pretty much the same.
the only other option is prolly to mod and hack the **** out of that thing

Solidus_n313 said:
easiest method is to just get a male-to-male 3.5mm headphone cable, but that defeats the purpose of a "dock", but will still sound pretty much the same.
the only other option is prolly to mod and hack the **** out of that thing
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seems silly the lack of speaker docks for the galaxy s2 (my gf's phone) and the sensation. we only want something to take on holiday in a weeks time.
thanks anyway

well they did just come out, and from my experience, the ONLY company that has docks out at launch or earlier are apple speaker docks, but thats only cuz companies like altec, bose and monster have to pay out the ass for all of apples many, many patents
hopefully altec or imotion come out with a really nice HTC this-gen speaker dock, but im not holding my breath, they prefer to cover a broader, more consistant market :/

it's annoying that everyone makes all of these Apple docks bug none for any other cell phones

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better headset than default (or usb->minijack converter)

Hi,
The sound in the headset that comes with the Trinity is quite bad and I really want to get a better one. Does anyone know if there is anyone making good headsets (prefferrably in-ear earbuds) or alternatively a plug converter such that I can use my normal headset with the usb plug on the trinity.
This should be the nice solution for you : http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142091&asource=HTC _P3600
(i'm getting one too, cause the BT stereo isn't that great at all...)
HTC Stereo Converter
Check this one:
11pins to 3.5mm Stereo Head Jack Converter for HTC devices.
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
Or you could check this site out. I ordered mine already and it's on the way.
http://www.doml.com/productdec.asp?pid=2698&model=d_d810&modeln=P3600
I ordered from brando a couple of days ago. Wanted a silicone cover too, but he did not have those yet.
sweet thanks for the links!
the mini usb to 3.5mm converter just have a problem doesn't support microphone function...
need to remove every time you receive a call...
Any other solution... like a normal headset with microphone and a mini usb?
the oem headset's sound quality is really bad, but i recognized that you can turn music much louder than older devices like my old wallaby
on expansys search for ORA usb to jack converter. there's a version that has a microphone.
Solution
This will solve the problem for me!
http://www.expansys.se/p.aspx?i=145154
i'm looking to use my p3600 for line in recording of a djset. would that be possible with a custum adapter.
iow does the audio in on the usb port support stereo sound?
2much4me said:
This will solve the problem for me!
http://www.expansys.se/p.aspx?i=145154
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This one looks cool... but can I know what is the approximate price for this in USD?
W100
it's cost 34€95...
This is an official HTC addon.
This is the HTC P3600 W100 ...
Cost
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=145154
$41.95
Got a Bose QC3 noisecanceling headset today.
Wouwwwww!!!!!
What incredible sound, what incredible bass!
Expensive, but it's worth it.
does anybody tried this
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=139893
with FM,RDS and 3.5mm
I personally picked this up
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=140107857073&rd=1&rd=1
I don't know if it's going to work or not, I'll post and let everybody know when I recieve it. The reason I opted for a 2.5mm headset is because I have like 3 of them lying around because my old phone used a 2.5mm and I didn't want them to go to waste.. if it doesn't work or if the sound quailty sucks I'll give a motorola mini usb headset a try.
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I personally picked this up
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=140107857073&rd=1&rd=1
I don't know if it's going to work or not, I'll post and let everybody know when I recieve it. The reason I opted for a 2.5mm headset is because I have like 3 of them lying around because my old phone used a 2.5mm and I didn't want them to go to waste.. if it doesn't work or if the sound quailty sucks I'll give a motorola mini usb headset a try.
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I can tell ya ahead of time that this will not work. The moto pinouts are different from the HTC proprietary pinouts. You need to get one made for HTC phones.
RebelShadow said:
I can tell ya ahead of time that this will not work. The moto pinouts are different from the HTC proprietary pinouts. You need to get one made for HTC phones.
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Hmm in that case, do you know of any headsets for the Trinity that is a single earpiece headset and not the double it comes with?
open stock headset
vanydotk said:
Hmm in that case, do you know of any headsets for the Trinity that is a single earpiece headset and not the double it comes with?
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why not just cut off the unwanted earpiece....
anyone managed to open the mic box on the stock headset? does it just have snap locks or is glued? I would break it open, but the operative word would probably be Break. I was considering just changing the ear phones over to some expensive ones to improve sound quality without losing the mic and usb connection.
Speedn
edit: no glue, just snap locks. Push in on the walls of the mic box on the large bit, (the bit with the button in it). slide ya fingernail into the gap an prise the top small piece off. Caution the small top piece has small pins in it so pull it straight up and not to the side.
remove old earpieces and solder new ones on, its even got L- L+ R- R+ labelled for ya.
I havent actually progressed to the attaching of new phones yet, will pick some up over the weekend mebbe.
Enjoy

Can't hear phone call with aftermarket headphone

anyone have this problem. with all other phone i have before all of them i can answer or make a call while i am enjoying my music. d i9000 have no problem calling out or picking up, but the phone call can't be here through the headphone i have to unplug it and use the phone speaker. anyone can help me out here? many thanks.
dinfung said:
anyone have this problem. with all other phone i have before all of them i can answer or make a call while i am enjoying my music. d i9000 have no problem calling out or picking up, but the phone call can't be here through the headphone i have to unplug it and use the phone speaker. anyone can help me out here? many thanks.
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same here.. I wonder why....
anyone else have this problem? have anyone try with the oem samsung headset? we r stuck to use with the oem 1?
same here ... i think we need an option to say use headphones instead of headset which it is looking for .
The galaxy s seems to have a non standard alignment (probably because it isnt standardised) If i listent to music through headphones that have a mic on it doesn't sound right because i believe its playing through the wrong channels (trying to play sound through the mic probably!).
I think you're screwed, use a bluetooth headset instead.
I'm having the same problem. I couldn't understand why it wouldn't put voice calls through my own earphones (obviously without microphone). So I bought a Griffin Smarttalk adapter hoping this would sort it and I still have no luck. Even though this adds the three contacts to the headphone jack, still no calls will come through my earphones. Very frustrating. Whether or not this is a non-standard alignment, it should be fixable with software as the phone is able to play media through standard earphones. Why can't something so simple just work.
ok guys, heres the thing
the samsung headphone jack layout is four pole t/r/r/s left right mic ground i think
it will not recognize an aftermarket headset with iphone jack config where the ground and mic is reversed or t/r/r/s left right ground mic
the samsung pin layout is similar to nokia's
i had a problem with my triplefi10vi too
so i got my old nokia 5310 headset adapter with mic and used it.
the layout is SGS<-nokia adaptor wiith mic<-triplefi10 standard cable without mic<-triplefi10
worked perfect
i can control the playback and answer call with the nokia phone adapter and it all gets routed to my triplefi10 iems
Yikes, your solution sounds like a Rube Goldberg contraption. An adapter to an adapter to the headsets.
This really sucks. Would have been a deal breaker for me had I known about it before buying the Galaxy S without option to return unless defective.
I wish some of the 100's of glowing reviews on the internet about this phone had caught this. All my headsets work with iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G, iPods, my MacBook Pro, etc...the Samsung's the only one with issues. Ugh.
furstrated said:
ok guys, heres the thing
the samsung headphone jack layout is four pole t/r/r/s left right mic ground i think
it will not recognize an aftermarket headset with iphone jack config where the ground and mic is reversed or t/r/r/s left right ground mic
the samsung pin layout is similar to nokia's
i had a problem with my triplefi10vi too
so i got my old nokia 5310 headset adapter with mic and used it.
the layout is SGS<-nokia adaptor wiith mic<-triplefi10 standard cable without mic<-triplefi10
worked perfect
i can control the playback and answer call with the nokia phone adapter and it all gets routed to my triplefi10 iems
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furstrated said:
ok guys, heres the thing
the samsung headphone jack layout is four pole t/r/r/s left right mic ground i think
it will not recognize an aftermarket headset with iphone jack config where the ground and mic is reversed or t/r/r/s left right ground mic
the samsung pin layout is similar to nokia's
i had a problem with my triplefi10vi too
so i got my old nokia 5310 headset adapter with mic and used it.
the layout is SGS<-nokia adaptor wiith mic<-triplefi10 standard cable without mic<-triplefi10
worked perfect
i can control the playback and answer call with the nokia phone adapter and it all gets routed to my triplefi10 iems
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So I'm wondering if it wouldn't be easier for those of us who don't have the parts you already do to get something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Ada..._1_2?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1278989309&sr=1-2
and then just cut into it and cross the appropriate wires to give the proper t/r/r/s wiring. I think I'll run over to Best Buy and see if I can find something similar and give it a try.
I successfully made an adapter by taking a short 4-pole extension cord for iPhones and then cross-wired the mic and ground wires. On the iphone it's t/r/r/s (L/R/G/M) and on the Samsung it's t/r/r/s (L/R/M/G) - on the adapter I cut the cord open, then soldered the G->M and M->G.
Works great. Music volume perfect, headset works for mic and headphones in phone calls, and the mic switch answers/hangs-up the phone as well as pause/play music player.
I'm happily using my Etymotics HF2s on the Samsung with full functionality as I type this.
This is the kind of stuff I wish the industry would standardize on. iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G all wired the same, but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way. Silliness.
This does not sound good.
distortedloop said:
This is the kind of stuff I wish the industry would standardize on. iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G all wired the same, but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way. Silliness.
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While I agree with you, honestly, the way I read this is you mean that Samsung and Nokia have it wrong. Which, on the surface, I just flatly disagree with. Now, anyone with facts can set me right, if Apple's interface is better from a quality standpoint then so-beit.
BUT...and this assume's I read your comment right, sense you essentially mean that since the iPhone, N1 & Evo 4G, then the two biggest cell phone manufacturers in the world have it wrong...Please keep in mind Apple is the new comer and that HTC, while having a long history with OEM builds that got rebranded, doesn't really have a long, storied history.
NO, what he is saying is that he wishes that all manufacturers would adopt the same pin-out. This would benefit everyone as then we could use any headset that we preferred especially as the Samsung is an in-ear type and they don't make and ear-bud type for the SGS which I would prefer. The SGS supplied headset would have been a deal breaker for me too if it was advertised prior to purchase.
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NO, what he is saying is that he wishes that all manufacturers would adopt the same pin-out. This would benefit everyone as then we could use any headset that we preferred especially as the Samsung is an in-ear type and they don't make and ear-bud type for the SGS which I would prefer. The SGS supplied headset would have been a deal breaker for me too if it was advertised prior to purchase.
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Correct, that was my only point as it was written. I don't care who is right or wrong, I just want my aftermarket parts on something this ubiquitous to be interchangeable.
Buying a cheap cable and rewiring it isn't a big deal for me, but for most consumers it's probably never going to happen. There must be some third party adapter that works for exactly this, but I didn't find any with some quick searches that I was sure would work.
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While I agree with you, honestly, the way I read this is you mean that Samsung and Nokia have it wrong. Which, on the surface, I just flatly disagree with. Now, anyone with facts can set me right, if Apple's interface is better from a quality standpoint then so-beit.
BUT...and this assume's I read your comment right, sense you essentially mean that since the iPhone, N1 & Evo 4G, then the two biggest cell phone manufacturers in the world have it wrong...Please keep in mind Apple is the new comer and that HTC, while having a long history with OEM builds that got rebranded, doesn't really have a long, storied history.
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Wow, I really don't want to get into a pissing contest debate over who has it right and who has it wrong. That's really the only thing you took away from my post?
My background, as indicated in the signature below is mostly Apple and HTC products, so of course from my point of view, that's the "correct" way. LOL.
Seriously, my only real point, as said above is that I wish this were industry standardized. There's probably some secret agenda out there to sell more headsets by not making them not easily swapped between other products. I can imagine most normal consumers whose Etymotics or Bose or whatever didn't work from one phone to another just buying a new pair that did. Lots more sales for the manufacturers that way.
Since we're Android users in this forum, if I were going to debate who has it right or wrong OFFICIALLY for Android, I'd point out that the HTC/Google Nexus One is the officially anointed chosen phone from Google, and the official "reference phone" to show manufacturers what Google thinks is the right way to do an Android device. Since the Nexus One has the t/r/r/s of L/R/G/M format, it is the official Google way to design an Android phone.
In reality, Google probably didn't pay that much attention to that kind of thing, or if they did, they chose to go with the iPhone pattern as part of some strategy. Apple probably went opposite the industry norm for the reason of just being jack-asses with their i/o ports and because Steve didn't want you using anything but Apple headsets.
That said, and five minutes wasted arguing a point I don't really care about, I'll let you say you won the debate and I'll acknowledge that Apple/HTC/Google as the newcomers must be wrong with their design.
It still doesn't change the fact that I wish this were standardized across the industry, whatever the standard is, which was all I said originally. Note that my original post that you quoted said:
"but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way"
not "but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same wrong way."
Big difference in the meaning of those two statements.
Take care!
dinfung said:
anyone have this problem. with all other phone i have before all of them i can answer or make a call while i am enjoying my music. d i9000 have no problem calling out or picking up, but the phone call can't be here through the headphone i have to unplug it and use the phone speaker. anyone can help me out here? many thanks.
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that sounds like my old Treo 650 / 600
If you use Bluetooth, you wont have that problem
Don't forget htc only recently started to use standard 35mm jacks, before it was 25mm and mini usb. God how that annoyed winmo users like me
Sent back in time from my Samsung Galaxy SSS
ickyboo said:
Don't forget htc only recently started to use standard 35mm jacks, before it was 25mm and mini usb. God how that annoyed winmo users like me
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The explains the plethora of 3.5 to 2.5 adapters on the Amazon market.
i really hated those 2.5mm plugs it was always annoying, i still have about 5 of those adapters at home that i don't use
from the time when i used my Treo in a daily basis
distortedloop said:
I successfully made an adapter by taking a short 4-pole extension cord for iPhones and then cross-wired the mic and ground wires. On the iphone it's t/r/r/s (L/R/G/M) and on the Samsung it's t/r/r/s (L/R/M/G) - on the adapter I cut the cord open, then soldered the G->M and M->G.
Works great. Music volume perfect, headset works for mic and headphones in phone calls, and the mic switch answers/hangs-up the phone as well as pause/play music player.
I'm happily using my Etymotics HF2s on the Samsung with full functionality as I type this.
This is the kind of stuff I wish the industry would standardize on. iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G all wired the same, but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way. Silliness.
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Great man. Can you post a picture?i am looking for a non cord solution.
So with an angle. Would that be possible?
Ciao valentijn
How about just an ordinary headset
How about using just an ordinary stereo headset like I do on all of my Nokias an iPhones?
Samsung should recognize it doesn't have a microphone and use the built in one, like all other phones in the world.
I can'd say it's a deal breaker but is pain in ass.
I can only hope it is software related and can be fixed in the future.

Music dock

Hi
Does anybody know of a music dock with speaker and amplifier to play music?
There is several avalibel for the iPhone but i can't finde any for the DHD :-(
I'd also like any information on this too. I've missed a great music dock since my W800i.
It amazes me that there is such a huge selection of iPod docks yet I do not know of one single mini USB dock - wtf?
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deekod said:
It amazes me that there is such a huge selection of iPod docks yet I do not know of one single mini USB dock - wtf? ...
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Yeah. Sometimes it's just easier to go with the flow! In the sense that if a music dock was a deal-breaker then best get an iPod/iPhone as there're plenty of alternatives.
Though you can get Bluetooth ones or ones with a 3.5mm aux input which would work. Depends whether you want to charge at the same time. It'd be nice to.
Dave
PS: don't ask me for links as I've seen them whilst *surfing* the web but not book-marked them as I'm not after one myself!
Any news about this ? I'm interested of buying one 'music dock'. Anyone found something?
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Maybe something like this ... http://www.gromaudio.com/store/accessories/cable-c-ipd2jk.html ... will allow you to use ipod stuff? Not tried one myself though.
Dave
Why not just buy a pair of PC speakers?
I cant really see what docking would add extra feature-wise. Unless you can simulate the buttons from the headphones.
PC speakers? Hardly a great way to listen to music from our DHD's.
A dock I am after will hold the DHD, charge it & play music from it.
andyharney said:
PC speakers? Hardly a great way to listen to music from our DHD's.
A dock I am after will hold the DHD, charge it & play music from it.
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It will still be a hellovalot better than the builtin speaker
Edit: Are you looking for something portable? That you keep on your lap? My 10 year old Creative Inspire 440 4.1 speaker set is small and makes a crap load of noise.
I'm after something that would sit happily on a sideboard or table, and not look out of place.
I ideally want the DHD equivalent of the B&W Zeppelin iPod HiFi system. I can dream....
If we can't find a complete set, I think a simple dock with 3.5mm out it will be good ... with a good set of speakers.
I run a 3.5mm to L+R RCA cable to a NAD Amp, running to 2 floor standing 300w Speakers and I can tells you ... I certainly get better sound than any of the iPod docks get!
Spare charger runs right next to it on a phone stand thing and I'm sorted.
I posted the adaptor cable earlier but that was only for interest. On my office desk I have a Celjel stand and connect a mains charger and an amp to my DHD. The amp is connected to my PC as well but I use an amp so that I can use decent speakers ....
In the living room where my main stereo is I was going to get one of these ... http://www.amazon.co.uk/QED-uPLAY-WIRELESS-BLUETOOTH-RECEIVER/dp/B003BF0OF2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_6 ... sounds expensive but it gets great reviews. So then the DHD gets played through my floor standing Mission speakers .. . All I need on top of that is a cheap fleabay charging stand for it to sit on the stereo stand. Sorted!
Dave
I know this is a slightly old thread but wondering if anyone has found a good music dock? I am after a small portable music dock, preferably one which charges the DHD at the same time, but would settle for a decent one with just 3.5mm connector.
Any recommendations?
I love it when old, but still useful, threads get revived.
Sadly I could not find a dock that I liked. So I made my own from a chunk of timber, a male to male 3.5mm jack and my wifes old SGS charger.
It took about 5 hours to get it right and sanded down, finished with a coat of teak oil.
I roughly followed this guide, but its set about 4-5mm into the wood leaning back and has a smaller back board.
Perfect bank holiday weekend project!
I wish you could just buy something like this http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/ instead of having to make it yourself
andyharney said:
I love it when old, but still useful, threads get revived.
Sadly I could not find a dock that I liked. So I made my own from a chunk of timber, a male to male 3.5mm jack and my wifes old SGS charger.
It took about 5 hours to get it right and sanded down, finished with a coat of teak oil.
I roughly followed ***, but its set about 4-5mm into the wood leaning back and has a smaller back board.
Perfect bank holiday weekend project!
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sromer said:
I wish you could just buy something like this *** instead of having to make it yourself
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a combi of the two would be a nice solution, a wooden dock-thingy...
Although its a bit inconvenient, i plug my charger in and my logitech z2300s. Absolutely amazing sound with srs turned on.

Petition to keep the jack on the futur S8/S8 Edge !

Hello all i will publish a petition to keep the jack on the futur Galaxy S8, i will publish the petition in 1 hour, i just have to know if someone have already hear a petition like this thanks !
And sorry for my English, nobody are perfect haha
Let's try to change the world guy's haha !
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-petition-to-keep-the-jack-on-the-future-s8-s8-edge
my friend too late for this if even they decided to remove it!!!
now most likely the phone will be out if 3-4 months max,design is already prepared and in manufacturing and resting phase.... they will not change and start a whole new design. development, testing for just a petition.... this IS Samsung after all
- tapatalked - from my VANTABLACK S7 EDGE
Perfectdevil said:
my friend too late for this if even they decided to remove it!!!
now most likely the phone will be out if 3-4 months max,design is already prepared and in manufacturing and resting phase.... they will not change and start a whole new design. development, testing for just a petition.... this IS Samsung after all
- tapatalked - from my VANTABLACK S7 EDGE
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Even if we are more than 100 000 person ?
To late they start SD830 production this month
Shipoftheline said:
To late they start SD830 production this month
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I would be sad without haha
I have a Bose QC35, that exist a Jack 2,5mm to USB-C ?
There is always a convertor jack to use with old phones, we should welcome the new technology instead sticking with the old. It will take time to adapt though
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Hopefully the adaptor will come with the phone and not be some $50 accessory lol.
Hopefully they give a decent wireless headset with the phone.
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Sucks to ditch it but Type C is the way forward for better audio
Slem34 said:
I would be sad without haha
I have a Bose QC35, that exist a Jack 2,5mm to USB-C ?
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You have bluetooth with your QC35, so no problem The sound remains awesome with Bose bluetooth... It's perfect on my QC30 anyway
And I don't really care if they remove the jack on the S8, i'm tired of Touchwiz (or Samsung Experience or whatever)
For those who don't know, no 3.5 jack means Sam doesn't need to put a decent DAC (or sound card as a more familiar term) into the phone. What remained is only a poor DAC that is enough to drive internal speaker. There is nothing called forward movement. It's purely cost cutting. If phone makers need to push forward wireless tech for headphones, first they have to make the transmission better with higher bit rates and no more stuttering. This way, users decide themselves if moving forward worth it or not.
Also, if headphones manufacturers decided to make type c headphone instead of 3.5, it means that each headphones must come with their own DAC instead of having just one on the phone itself. This way you cannot,ever than before, expect cheap but good headphones due to DAC cost.
Since Apple decision to ditch out headphone jack. I think it's the stupidest idea ever. The bottom line of producing sound into your ears is always in analog. No one cannot make hearable sound in digital format. I don't get it why do so many people agree with such an illusional digital shift paradigm.
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For those who don't know, no 3.5 jack means Sam doesn't need to put a decent DAC (or sound card as a more familiar term) into the phone. What remained is only a poor DAC that is enough to drive internal speaker. There is nothing called forward movement. It's purely cost cutting. If phone makers need to push forward wireless tech for headphones, first they have to make the transmission better with higher bit rates and no more stuttering. This way, users decide themselves if moving forward worth it or not.
Also, if headphones manufacturers decided to make type c headphone instead of 3.5, it means that each headphones must come with their own DAC instead of having just one on the phone itself. This way you cannot,ever than before, expect cheap but good headphones due to DAC cost.
Since Apple decision to ditch out headphone jack. I think it's the stupidest idea ever. The bottom line of producing sound into your ears is always in analog. No one cannot make hearable sound in digital format. I don't get it why do so many people agree with such an illusional digital shift paradigm.
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Perfect answer ??
BigBen60 said:
You have bluetooth with your QC35, so no problem The sound remains awesome with Bose bluetooth... It's perfect on my QC30 anyway
And I don't really care if they remove the jack on the S8, i'm tired of Touchwiz (or Samsung Experience or whatever)
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You're right, but I'm not a fan of bluetooth, I always use jack because in bluetooth you have:
1. Less autonomy
2. It f * ck you brain well.
3. You can steal your helmet much easier.
It makes me laugh when I think of the guy with an iPhone 7 (DAS 1.38kg / W) with its headphones bluetooth. He nicely bites his brain ?
romeokk said:
For those who don't know, no 3.5 jack means Sam doesn't need to put a decent DAC (or sound card as a more familiar term) into the phone. What remained is only a poor DAC that is enough to drive internal speaker. There is nothing called forward movement. It's purely cost cutting. If phone makers need to push forward wireless tech for headphones, first they have to make the transmission better with higher bit rates and no more stuttering. This way, users decide themselves if moving forward worth it or not.
Also, if headphones manufacturers decided to make type c headphone instead of 3.5, it means that each headphones must come with their own DAC instead of having just one on the phone itself. This way you cannot,ever than before, expect cheap but good headphones due to DAC cost.
Since Apple decision to ditch out headphone jack. I think it's the stupidest idea ever. The bottom line of producing sound into your ears is always in analog. No one cannot make hearable sound in digital format. I don't get it why do so many people agree with such an illusional digital shift paradigm.
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And if the space for headphone jack can be used for a second speaker?
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why you need headphone jack

Turns out getting rid of the headphone jack is not such a great idea when it leaves you with no plan B
http://bgr.com/2016/11/07/iphone-7-plus-review-addendum-bluetooth-problems
First Samsung got rid of removable battery and they have a total Fukushima meltdown
Then Apple gets rid of headphone jack and their latest and greatest phone has unfixable Bluetooth connection issues...
Thank you LG V20
lets let those two companies play with each other in the corner while the rest of us laugh with popcorn.
Plus a lot of us enthusiasts have too many great and expensive headphones that we wont be parting ways with anytime soon.
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Apple is not the first company or first phone to remove the headphone jack. Let's not forget about the slim and sexy Oppo R5. Oppo has removed the 3.5mm jack because their whole phone is thinner than 3.5mm. People don't like the idea much and R5 didn't get much of the limelight.
(Premise: I'm an audiophile and a sound engineer in the free time) Well, the only reason i could judge acceptable for mobile phone companies to get rid of the headphone Jack is to change the way sound flow is managed nowadays, to be clear;
DAC in our smartphones is the "weakest link" in the audio path, you can have a pair of 1000$ cans but you wont be able to get the right sound quality from a phone without using an extra Amp, especially for high impedance cans such as Hd500, DT880, DT990, and so on. The only reason Apple, HTC and others like LeEco, Lenovo have dropped the use of the Jack is; they don't care about sound and they don't want to include DAC in their devices anymore, anyhow most of phones use the integrated sound processing of the SoC, only a few such as HTC 10, LG v20 and other niche market phones have dedicated quality DACs. Manufacturers that get rid of the Jack think this way: "why should i provide a quality converter? Why quality headphones manufacturers can't get the responsability of digital/analog conversion?" By only providing USB-C or Lightning ports on devices, the can manufacturer will have to embed a DAC inside the headphone, so it will be his work to convert the digital signal into music, which is much more logical... Downside is, this new devices without Jack have only one plug you can use at once and yes, you have no plan B, either using BT headsets or use USB-C/Lightning headphones (but can't recharge while headpones are plugged in, bummer). Philips has already released lighting headphones that sound pretty good. It's another way to conceive audio path. It might be the future i don't know. What i DO know, is that I appreciate corded Headphones with the V20 DAC and i've been waiting for a device with this sound quality for years!
spiderx_mm said:
Apple is not the first company or first phone to remove the headphone jack. Let's not forget about the slim and sexy Oppo R5. Oppo has removed the 3.5mm jack because their whole phone is thinner than 3.5mm. People don't like the idea much and R5 didn't get much of the limelight.
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Slim and sexy doesn't even need to be a requirement for ditching the jack. The T-Mobile G1, the very first Android phone but not even the first to go without a jack, was neither sexy nor slim and it didn't have a headphone jack. I hated that dongle and preferred to just carry a dedicated mp3 player instead.
I happen to just like having something to plug a Square (or other credit card reader) into.
axaman943 said:
The only reason Apple, HTC and others like LeEco, Lenovo have dropped the use of the Jack is; they don't care about sound and they don't want to include DAC in their devices anymore, anyhow most of phones use the integrated sound processing of the SoC, only a few such as HTC 10, LG v20 and other niche market phones have dedicated quality DACs.
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Apple dropping the jack really wasn't a decision based on sound equipment issues at all. It was a move to force all new iphone users onto Apple pay. Small businesses that use the credit card swipers need the headphone jack. Those systems compete with Apple pay that uses NFC to bypass the need for the credit card swipe device. With one move to eliminate the jack Apple just disrupted a huge part the mobile payments business to their benefit.
Didn't know about this thing, pretty sharp...

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