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Hi dear,
I'm going to get Galaxy S or Nexus S next week for myself and my gf(my gf's birthday is coming so I'm gonna sell my white iphone 4...)
Btw, I'm on the middle of the road.
I enjoy the internet browsing with my phone and watch youtube quite often. Also, I do video chat with my parent via skype.
But I saw on Nexus S the internet browsing is not as smooth as on galaxy s.
How is the performance on both devices?
and I read that galaxy s also have got 2.3.4 so now skype is working with video call. That is, Nexus S is not only the device can do video call via skype.
Please give me an advice guys! hope i'll hear many advice from here
First of all, I got to say that I only have the Nexus S, and not the Galaxy S, just like most of the people on this forum. That's why my opinion may be biased.
From what I've heard, the Nexus S is certainly smoother than the Galaxy S, mainly because there is no Touchwiz. The internet browsing on the Nexus S is indeed not perfect (on the standard browser that is), but I believe that's a problem of most of the Android devices. Tip: download a new browser from the market. Opera and Miren Browser are one of the fastest.
If you are going to use Google Services like Youtube much, then I recommend the Nexus S, since you'll be sure to get updates from Google for a long time.
As for Skype, I don't see a reason why it would work better on the Nexus S than on the Galaxy S, or the other way around. I wouldn't use Skype anyway, the application is far from perfect (your battery will drain like there's no tomorrow, although there are certain apps that prevent that).
In my eyes, the Nexus S is basically a better Galaxy S. Faster, slicker design and faster updates. Oh, one thing that may be important to you: the Nexus S doesn't have FM radio. The Galaxy S does. You'll have to rely on internet radio on the Nexus S.
I hope I wasn't too biased!
Androyed said:
First of all, I got to say that I only have the Nexus S, and not the Galaxy S, just like most of the people on this forum. That's why my opinion may be biased.
From what I've heard, the Nexus S is certainly smoother than the Galaxy S, mainly because there is no Touchwiz. The internet browsing on the Nexus S is indeed not perfect (on the standard browser that is), but I believe that's a problem of most of the Android devices. Tip: download a new browser from the market. Opera and Miren Browser are one of the fastest.
If you are going to use Google Services like Youtube much, then I recommend the Nexus S, since you'll be sure to get updates from Google for a long time.
As for Skype, I don't see a reason why it would work better on the Nexus S than on the Galaxy S, or the other way around. I wouldn't use Skype anyway, the application is far from perfect (your battery will drain like there's no tomorrow, although there are certain apps that prevent that).
In my eyes, the Nexus S is basically a better Galaxy S. Faster, slicker design and faster updates. Oh, one thing that may be important to you: the Nexus S doesn't have FM radio. The Galaxy S does. You'll have to rely on internet radio on the Nexus S.
I hope I wasn't too biased!
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no no no you are not biased at all. Very objective
hm.. that's one thing I've concerned.. update directly from Google as it's the reference phone! alright. I'll think about it again.
But how is the opera web browser? is it working well? I want to see how smooth it is!
jorkobe23 said:
no no no you are not biased at all. Very objective
hm.. that's one thing I've concerned.. update directly from Google as it's the reference phone! alright. I'll think about it again.
But how is the opera web browser? is it working well? I want to see how smooth it is!
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The opera web browser adds lots of functionality (like tabs, still can't believe the stock browser doesn't have that) and has (sort of) proven to be the fastest.
One more thing in favor of the Nexus S: it's easier to root and install custom ROMs, which will make it even faster. I don't know if you are interested in that, but since you already are on XDA, I figured that might be important to you.
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The opera web browser adds lots of functionality (like tabs, still can't believe the stock browser doesn't have that) and has (sort of) proven to be the fastest.
One more thing in favor of the Nexus S: it's easier to root and install custom ROMs, which will make it even faster. I don't know if you are interested in that, but since you already are on XDA, I figured that might be important to you.
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Oh, cool. Yeah I'd like to try some custom roms.
But one problem is when I asked my gf which one looks better, she said galaxy s
I think she likes more iphone-like a phone.
jorkobe23 said:
Oh, cool. Yeah I'd like to try some custom roms.
But one problem is when I asked my gf which one looks better, she said galaxy s
I think she likes more iphone-like a phone.
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Time to get a new girl friend
you probably should take a nexus to you and a galaxy to your girlfriend. =o)
in my opinion, nexus is best than galaxy, except for browser, stock browser in nexus is really bad (some web pages are impossible to use), specially when you use opera browser and see how smooth it can be (that's the point you say 'wtf, what's wrong with stock one?')
I just happen to have both on my desk. The Samsung Galaxy S is my personal Phone and the Nexus S is my development Phone (I got a Milestone and a Galaxy Tab too).
What I like about Galaxy S:
Slightly thinner than Nexus S. Not much but I notice it.
MicroSD card slot. Missing in Nexus S
FM Radio.
Touchwiz notification area icons. IMHO a better place than a widget to quick access to power controls (and besides it has the very useful orientation locking button not present in default power controls widget).
Hardware home button. More comfortable to get screen back on rather than using power button all the time (the only choice on Nexus S).
What I like about Nexus S:
NFC. Interesting in my case for work but not very useful at present due to lack of support/information (need card emulation mode)
Development. You always get up-to-date versions of Android first (from Google) and development is less hassle than on other phones (rom building/flashing directly supported with standard Google tools). No mess with bootloaders, propietary flashing programs (Odin for Galaxy S) and no need to go with unofficial sources such as Cyanogen (Samsung S not yet supported, it will be from next version 7.1).
Camera flash. I miss it sometimes on my Galaxy S.
My personal choice. For everyday use I prefer my Galaxy S. For pure development or just to be always up-to-date Nexus S.
Note: Some people are discussing about software. You must take into consideration that hardware is almost the same in both models. I have not noticed noticeable performance differences. Nonetheless I have not used the Nexus S very much yet. I do have experienced performance improvements on my Galaxy S upgrading to new firmwares. Currently I have installed "F1 Series V6" which is a little modification over stock 2.3.4 GB Samsung firmware. It works great and my Quadrant score is around 2000. My advice is software can be changed/improved after you purchase your phone. Hardware can't. So choosing a phone based on my XXXX app run a little bit smother on this phone with firmware YYYY is not a wise decision, because those measurements are not very accurate and can vary over time. Both phones have virtually the same hardware, so they should more or less run the applications with practically no difference in performance.
Just my 2 cents.
m0rtadelo said:
Some people are discussing about software. You must take into consideration that hardware is almost the same in both models. I have not noticed noticeable performance differences. Nonetheless I have not used the Nexus S very much yet. I do have experienced performance improvements on my Galaxy S upgrading to new firmwares. Currently I have installed "F1 Series V6" which is a little modification over stock 2.3.4 GB Samsung firmware. It works great and my Quadrant score is around 2000. My advice is software can be changed/improved after you purchase your phone. Hardware can't. So choosing a phone based on my XXXX app run a little bit smother on this phone with firmware YYYY is not a wise decision, because those measurements are not very accurate and can vary over time. Both phones have virtually the same hardware, so they should more or less run the applications with practically no difference in performance.
Just my 2 cents.
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that's quite oposite from what i think about it, today i make my decisions looking for software, it could make a crappy phone works nice and a 'dream' phone a hell (like atrix, to me), sure you can always tweak to get it better and when everything is great, Google releases a new android and the cycle starts again: new roms, new kernels and "when, where, why" start to pop in general forum. It's just not fun anymore (for me).
The thing is: I flashed all roms and all kernels from dev section in my nexus and couldn't find anything even close to stock setup. Nexus stock is just solid (despite lack of some good features).
i think chasing hard specs is not a wise decision anymore (besides, it's a endless chase), if you need a sd card slot, or fm radio, or HD camera, you should go with sgs. if you don't care about it and want a device that just works as soon as you get it out of the box, so... =o)
to resume, that is exactly what i think: http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/30/coming-nexus-s/
sorry for my engrish! =o)
The only reason why browsing on the Galaxy S is smoother is because it uses hardware acceleration. And another browser to worth mentioning in that list would be Dolphin Browser HD. It's a very smooth browser.
I came from a Samsung Vibrant (Galaxy S) to a Nexus S for its developmental purposes. Some may argue that there are not many ROMs. But all in honesty, the ROMs coming out to the Galaxy S are mainly all based on TouchWiz. They're all the same ROM behind the hood and just appear different. Now there is CM7, so things might of changed now. But regardless, to install CM7.. you'd have to go through a long process of changing its partition type from RFS to ext4.
I still don't look back at the Galaxy S. The only feature I can primarily say that I miss are the codecs, but with DICE Player. That filled the missing part so now I'm able to watch 720p without any lag.
But yeah, +1 on Google updates. When Ice Cream Sandwich is announced later this year, the Nexus S will be one of the first phones to get it.
Galaxy S? Good luck. Samsung will be busy updating their current flagship phone, Galaxy S2. And if you're in the U.S. it'll take even longer because it'll have to go through approval with the carrier and addition of their bloat blah blah blah. the list goes on.
Update coming from Google?
Google makes update -> OTA
Update coming from Samsung in the U.S.?
Samsung makes updates -> Goes through approval process with carrier -> OTA
And with the carriers, usually multiple revisions have to satisfy the carrier before its approved.
Nexus S hands down.
I also say the nexus s. I own both galaxy s and nexus s. My vibrant is decent but the nexus s blows it out the water. U.S. phones still don't have gingerbread either and froyo on the galaxy s looks retarded. It really does, the nexus s software looks slick and sexy. The browser lag is over blown. It's not that bad at.
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I own a Captivate and just bought a Nexus S today and I will give it to the NS.
Looks better, feels better, smoother and as retarded as it sounds, you feel better mentally. This is all Google and Google only. No workarounds, fixes, patches or anything to make this phone run as it should.
I could go on forever to discuss the pros (and also some cons) but they are redundant and have been discussed to death. It comes down to the Nexus S being a more refined and polished version of the Galaxy S.
dunkerya said:
The browser lag is over blown. It's not that bad at.
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So, make a test for me: go to http://www.gizmodo.com.br/conteudo/...orkut-continua-vivo-e-aparentemente-saudavel/
Wait it loads, and roll to end of the page... does it work fine for you?
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Galaxy S has FM and comes with Swype (though you can get this thru beta program on NS)
Nexus S screen looked much better after the 2.3.3 update, now galaxy S screens look too blueish for me.
Both of them have voodoo sound support, so its all good!
Thanks guys!
I just wanna know which one is better between amoled or super lcd.
I live in New Zealand and here they only sell super lcd version..(GT-i9023)
I heard Super LCD version is better for battery efficiency and reading a text.
jorkobe23 said:
Thanks guys!
I just wanna know which one is better between amoled or super lcd.
I live in New Zealand and here they only sell super lcd version..(GT-i9023)
I heard Super LCD version is better for battery efficiency and reading a text.
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Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921861. I once started it when I was trying to find the real difference between (Super Clear) LCD and (Super) AMOLED. The thread has tons of pictures, videos, experiences, etc. Read it through. If that's not enough (I doubt it), you can read this thread that I made on a dutch forum. You probably don't speak dutch, but you could translate it. It is a very informative thread about the difference between LCD and AMOLED. It took me a while to make, but it was worth it. Keep in mind though that there is a difference between Super LCD and Super Clear LCD. A big difference.
Androyed said:
Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921861. I once started it when I was trying to find the real difference between (Super Clear) LCD and (Super) AMOLED. The thread has tons of pictures, videos, experiences, etc. Read it through. If that's not enough (I doubt it), you can read this thread that I made on a dutch forum. You probably don't speak dutch, but you could translate it. It is a very informative thread about the difference between LCD and AMOLED. It took me a while to make, but it was worth it. Keep in mind though that there is a difference between Super LCD and Super Clear LCD. A big difference.
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Nice review mate!
I just read your thread and I feel Super Clear LCD feels more like iPhoney.
I like the retina display as well as Super Amoled but for web browsing I guess Super Clear LCD is better.
jorkobe23 said:
Nice review mate!
I just read your thread and I feel Super Clear LCD feels more like iPhoney.
I like the retina display as well as Super Amoled but for web browsing I guess Super Clear LCD is better.
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The retina display is very much undersaturated, like 40 percent. Just like Super AMOLED is like 40 percent oversaturated. Super Clear LCD's colors are much more natural.
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The retina display is very much undersaturated, like 40 percent. Just like Super AMOLED is like 40 percent oversaturated. Super Clear LCD's colors are much more natural.
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Ah really?
But I want to know about how it is different when I read the text on the phone.
Retina display is amazing for web browsing and reading books.
is Super clear lcd like that?
jorkobe23 said:
Ah really?
But I want to know about how it is different when I read the text on the phone.
Retina display is amazing for web browsing and reading books.
is Super clear lcd like that?
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Not that sharp as the retina display, although that has nothing to do with the fact that it is a retina display.
Iphone 4 resolution is higher than Nexus S resolution. And the screen of the iPhone 4 is smaller. But like I said, that has nothing to do with the fact that it is a retina display.
One thing I can say you is that whites are very easy to the eye on Super Clear LCD. With Opera or another web-browser that isn't as laggy as stock browser, you'll have a pleasant experience. True, the resolution isn't as high as the iPhones resolution, but the bigger screen also has an advantage of course.
I was originally thinking about getting an international Galaxy Tablet, but as much as I'd like a tablet as a phone...I know it's not the ideal solution for multiple reasons (lack of warranty, primarily).
Anyway, a friend can get me one brand-new for $250, and it'd be a decent upgrade from my HTC G2. I know development for it isn't the best, and ICS probably won't arrive at least for another month (and it'll suck going back to Gingerbread after having used ICS for a bit on my G2), but I don't want my G2 to completely crap out and have to buy a new phone on a whim like that (and it'd be nice to have the G2 available as a backup).
Not interested in the Galaxy II (I get that it has better features, but it just looks/feels so cheap to me), and the Galaxy III is a nice phone, but I won't use half the features/power and it'd be an extra $100 or so. Nothing else on T-Mobile really appeals to me.
That being said, other than the previously-mentioned lack of development, are there any issues with the Blaze that I should know about? Or any major reason (other than development) that I should go with the GS3 instead?
If you've only ever used a AOSP style CM capable device (like me) you may regret going to something that only runs TouchWiz. Sure, you can change the launcher, uninstall swype and install the better version, and root it to uninstall a bunch of apps you don't want/need... but there are other things you can't change.
The lock screen, phone call screen(s) and some other things are remarkably slow and unresponsive, and is this ridiculous attempt to bring ICS looks and features to a poor gingerbread implementation. I don't understand how a company can make a phone with dual 1.5Ghz cores perform some things so slowly when my 1Ghz MT4G was responsive as hell. The phone feels "nicer" in the hand than some other samsungs I've held but that's about all it has going for it. Oh, and it supports T-Mobile's WiFi calling.
And yeah, the development is going REALLY slow and will likely remain so, even with the generous help of the guys that are making moves on this phone now.
If I had the choice again, I wouldn't. I will never again purchase a phone that isn't already supported by some AOSP style ROM. I thought root was enough and I'd get by with it, but I was wrong.
But that's just me.
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If you've only ever used a AOSP style CM capable device (like me) you may regret going to something that only runs TouchWiz. Sure, you can change the launcher, uninstall swype and install the better version, and root it to uninstall a bunch of apps you don't want/need... but there are other things you can't change.
The lock screen, phone call screen(s) and some other things are remarkably slow and unresponsive, and is this ridiculous attempt to bring ICS looks and features to a poor gingerbread implementation. I don't understand how a company can make a phone with dual 1.5Ghz cores perform some things so slowly when my 1Ghz MT4G was responsive as hell. The phone feels "nicer" in the hand than some other samsungs I've held but that's about all it has going for it. Oh, and it supports T-Mobile's WiFi calling.
And yeah, the development is going REALLY slow and will likely remain so, even with the generous help of the guys that are making moves on this phone now.
If I had the choice again, I wouldn't. I will never again purchase a phone that isn't already supported by some AOSP style ROM. I thought root was enough and I'd get by with it, but I was wrong.
But that's just me.
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Well then, wasn't exactly expecting to hear that on this of all boards - it's definitely good to hear, though, as I didn't realize how serious reviews were about the device being bloated like that.
My only other choice I'd be remotely interested in would be the HTC Amaze, and not that I don't like HTC, but I've read the battery life isn't the best, and there's issues like backlight bleeding and whatnot. I guess I'll just wait to get the GS3 and hope there aren't any major issues.
Yeah, sorry
For the price, if the community were more active, I'd say it's a great deal. But if it isn't active now, the sad truth is that it won't get more active down the road. And I wouldn't wait for the likes of me to actually succeed in getting CM9 running on this thing...
As a comparison, the HTC One S has been around half as long and has like 10x the interest and activity. Just walk around their XDA Android Dev subforums and you'll see what I mean. Mind you, the 1S has the same CPU, memory, and other misc. features. The storage and battery are fixed, but that's the only downside. It's got a slimmer package and more accessories available. The blaze is dead in comparison.
TouchWiz just irritates me, but I make do with the phone, and maybe I'm being picky. Ask if you can test drive the thing... insert your sim and make/answer some calls... do some basic things and just know that's pretty much how the device will always be. If you could live with that, then so be it.
For a T-Mobile compatible phone, I'd just get a new Galaxy Nexus, or a 1S. The Galaxy Nexus will be the first to run Jelly Bean, and you'll also have support for a fairly long time from the likes of the CM team and AOKP, et al. It has some great features too. Just food for though
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Yeah, sorry
For the price, if the community were more active, I'd say it's a great deal. But if it isn't active now, the sad truth is that it won't get more active down the road. And I wouldn't wait for the likes of me to actually succeed in getting CM9 running on this thing...
As a comparison, the HTC One S has been around half as long and has like 10x the interest and activity. Just walk around their XDA Android Dev subforums and you'll see what I mean. Mind you, the 1S has the same CPU, memory, and other misc. features. The storage and battery are fixed, but that's the only downside. It's got a slimmer package and more accessories available. The blaze is dead in comparison.
TouchWiz just irritates me, but I make do with the phone, and maybe I'm being picky. Ask if you can test drive the thing... insert your sim and make/answer some calls... do some basic things and just know that's pretty much how the device will always be. If you could live with that, then so be it.
For a T-Mobile compatible phone, I'd just get a new Galaxy Nexus, or a 1S. The Galaxy Nexus will be the first to run Jelly Bean, and you'll also have support for a fairly long time from the likes of the CM team and AOKP, et al. It has some great features too. Just food for though
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I guess I'll try and look into the Blaze in person more before I totally dismiss it, then. After hearing numerous issues with the 1S (between random reboots, screens failing, really hot temperatures, data/service issues, and even stuff as weird as the capacitive buttons being completely unresponsive - all reasons people have returned it, according to a friend at T-Mobile), I'm staying away from it, at least for the moment; I like everything else about the phone, however, and don't care about lack of expandable storage or removable battery. Not a fan of the lack official accessories (and accessory choice in general), however, compared to most Samsung phones.
And nothing against the Nexus but...it just doesn't appeal to me. I can understand any of the numerous reasons to go for one, but it just doesn't stand out to me in any way; I'd much sooner get the Galaxy S 3 for the better specs and camera alone.
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I guess I'll try and look into the Blaze in person more before I totally dismiss it, then. After hearing numerous issues with the 1S (between random reboots, screens failing, really hot temperatures, data/service issues, and even stuff as weird as the capacitive buttons being completely unresponsive - all reasons people have returned it, according to a friend at T-Mobile), I'm staying away from it, at least for the moment; I like everything else about the phone, however, and don't care about lack of expandable storage or removable battery. Not a fan of the lack official accessories (and accessory choice in general), however, compared to most Samsung phones.
And nothing against the Nexus but...it just doesn't appeal to me. I can understand any of the numerous reasons to go for one, but it just doesn't stand out to me in any way; I'd much sooner get the Galaxy S 3 for the better specs and camera alone.
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I believe the Nexus also has various issues. I honestly don't understand where are all the pessimism is coming from. We are getting the official ICS update, so CM9 is likely to get to us. We are also funding a developer to help him buy a Blaze and improve his ROM. I'll admit the development is slow, but that's to be expected for a carrier specific device that got no advertising. Descent due development will come in time I think.
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If you've only ever used a AOSP style CM capable device (like me) you may regret going to something that only runs TouchWiz. Sure, you can change the launcher, uninstall swype and install the better version, and root it to uninstall a bunch of apps you don't want/need... but there are other things you can't change.
The lock screen, phone call screen(s) and some other things are remarkably slow and unresponsive, and is this ridiculous attempt to bring ICS looks and features to a poor gingerbread implementation. I don't understand how a company can make a phone with dual 1.5Ghz cores perform some things so slowly when my 1Ghz MT4G was responsive as hell. The phone feels "nicer" in the hand than some other samsungs I've held but that's about all it has going for it. Oh, and it supports T-Mobile's WiFi calling.
And yeah, the development is going REALLY slow and will likely remain so, even with the generous help of the guys that are making moves on this phone now.
If I had the choice again, I wouldn't. I will never again purchase a phone that isn't already supported by some AOSP style ROM. I thought root was enough and I'd get by with it, but I was wrong.
But that's just me.
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That's funny, but that's exactly how I feel about my Blaze. I thought rooting it to get rid of all the bloat would be enough, but I want more, and there just isn't more out there, despite the efforts of our lovable and hard working dev's. And you're right - the call screen sometimes just isn't responsive at all and I wind up being unable to answer calls, especially if it's coming from an app I'm already running, such as a game. So from now on I'm coming to XDA and doing developmental research before getting a phone. Right now I'm leaning towards a Galaxy S2 (even though the S3 is a faster phone and all - it just does not feel right IMO).
While the lack of development is discouraging to "early" adopters, I really love the form factor (can't stand the 4.3" screens or bigger) and the build quality is surprisingly nice.
Having used CM before on another device, it is weird not having it on here. The lack of customizability is a bit frustrating. But I'm patient. I really think the price point, performance potential, and friendly size will make this a winner once ICS and the appropriate sources/information are released.
So I got a chance to play with one a little bit (basically brand-new, just factory reset)...I'm not seeing the sluggishness/delay you guys are talking about, particularly with the phone calls (receiving or placing). Maybe I'm just used to the delay/sluggishness on my G2 that I don't notice it, but I'd imagine removing all that bloat (and removing stuff like built-in ringtones) would help a decent amount...
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So I got a chance to play with one a little bit (basically brand-new, just factory reset)...I'm not seeing the sluggishness/delay you guys are talking about, particularly with the phone calls (receiving or placing). Maybe I'm just used to the delay/sluggishness on my G2 that I don't notice it, but I'd imagine removing all that bloat (and removing stuff like built-in ringtones) would help a decent amount...
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Yeah, I have none of the sluggishness issues either. Stock may be bloated but its pretty damn snappy. I've used a MT4G with CM7 and my Blaze is much more responsive overall, it even handles flash without breaking a sweat.
I'm really happy with this phone despite not having much rom support. Coming from a defy there are two things that I don't miss: battery pulls and random reboots. Never happens on this device. For me that makes it worth giving up AOSP...at least for now.
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Just out of curiosity - I've heard that internally there are many similarities between a Blaze and a Galaxy S2. Has anyone ever tried throwing an S2 ROM on their Blaze and, if so, what were the results? Just curious.
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Just out of curiosity - I've heard that internally there are many similarities between a Blaze and a Galaxy S2. Has anyone ever tried throwing an S2 ROM on their Blaze and, if so, what were the results? Just curious.
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they are similars but don't recommend something like that iif you don't know what might happen. Because flashing wrong kernel/rom can brick peoples phone.
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sparkie6point0 said:
Just out of curiosity - I've heard that internally there are many similarities between a Blaze and a Galaxy S2. Has anyone ever tried throwing an S2 ROM on their Blaze and, if so, what were the results? Just curious.
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The B4G is specifically very much like the T-Mobile GS2 (The T989). They are both based on the msm8660_surf board, with the same CPU, GPU and many of the same sensors. There are differences, specifically with the panel (display) and a few of the sensors. The differences are enough that it doesn't quite work on our device. Yeah, I've tried ;-)
What I've been doing is specifically trying to port a number of the things for our device into the ICS kernel available for the T989. My goal is to come up with a bootable ICS kernel for our device. I think that's gonna be the biggest stepping stone to a working CM9 or AOKP build for our phone.
The B4G has nothing other than specs in common with the other SGS2 phones on the market, save for maybe the AT&T SkyRocket. They all use different CPU's and GPU's on a different platform all built by Samsung... and thus different sensors.
I've had a lot of phones starting with the Nexus One (actually the Eris but I try to forget). So far the only issue I see is the ability to "crack flash". IMO sooner or later you'll have a phone that just won't have every developer swooning over it. if for no other reason than there are so many phone out there. (remember the threads when the Nexus came out?)
I bought this phone because it met all of my needs and had good specs. I had the G2x and the Sensation (sold on gave another to my son) but ths phone is better. The extra Ram is noticeable difference IMO and the size of the phone is right for me.
We could have all opted for the Galaxy SII and I'm sure everybody looked at the threads and saw what was going on so........participate........and relax a little.........the phone works very well.
There are probably a few other threads like this, but I didn't really see any so I decided to start this one. Just to make it clear, these things are purely a wishlist, not rumors, and some of these things aren't even to be expected. Just purely for wishful thinking and conversation.
I'll start with the things that bother me most about Jelly Bean.
- Better Multi-Tasking & App Integration: If you're coming from iOS, then what we have is probably easy to live with, but its buggy. For instance, apps seem to get "confused" on what's really opened where. For instance, if I share a picture to Instagram from the gallery or Dropbox, and i go home afterwards, opening the respective app will bring me to Instagram, and opening Instagram will bring me somewhere completely different inside off Instagram. It's like Instagram is running twice. What Google needs to work on is actually having Android switch apps, instead of opening it inside of the other one.
- Rotation: I'm surprised I've never seen this posted anywhere else, but if you use an iOS device and you rotate it, the transition from portrait to landscape (or vice versa) is smooth. extremely smooth. don't give me wrong, Android rotates smoothly too, but the transition doesn't "connect" . Because what Android does is rotate the whole operating system (think of rotating a windows pc), whereas iOS rotates just the UI. The operating system itself doesn't seem to rotate. Ex: If you watched a YouTube video on an iOS device in landscape, when it's over or you go back, the landscape video just slides away with the app in portrait "behind" it. If you've seen it before you'd know what I mean. Android should do this also. Instead of rotating the whole OS, just have the UI rotate.
- Update Fragmentation: This issue will probably never be resolved, because google has almost no say so in what manufactures do with android, but 4.2 is out right? So why are 4.1 devices still shipping? Android has a nav bar now right? So why are devices still shipping with capacitive buttons and menu keys? This is why some devs haven't implemented the 3 dot overflow button in some apps I suppose. Also manufactures are abandoning devices that are still capable of running the latest versions of Android. For instance, the HTC Desire Z (T-Mobile G2) , HTC Desire HD (AT&T Inspire 4G) , and the Galaxy S 1 (which was basically a Nexus S) should've all been updated to AT LEAST 4.0. The updates for the S1 should have stopped when the Nexus S stopped receiving updates actually.
- Skins / OEM UI's - Another issue that will probably never be resolved. Skins were completely understandable up until 4.0 in terms of looks. Android is now a pretty good looking OS and doesn't need a skin. Also, if google were to implement most of the CM features, manufactures wouldn't even need to add features. (If it were up to me, all phones would come with CM, lol.) Also, why they choose to replace built in applications that are never updated is beyond me. If everyone kept the skinning to a minimum, we could have timely updates.
App Unification: I've seen this one so many times. Apps like Google Voice/Messenger/G Mail/ Etc. are all separate apps, but preform the same action, or somehow work together. Much like Google Earth, Maps, and Street View. Why not combine all of the similar apps, and save space and confusion.
Responsiveness / Smoothness: I'm gonna keep this one short, because Android gets better and better with each update, but it could be better. Swipe your finger across something like a webpage quickly and watch it follow behind your finger, whereas on other OS's the page will "stick" to your finger.
The "Back" Button: Something I'm sure we all get confused by at least twice a day. It's supposed to bring us to the previous screen until we get to the home screen, but at times, it'll take you places in apps you've never been, skips screens you've been too, etc. Basically, only half of the time it works at advertised.
Auto Brightness Calibration: Everyone's preferences for auto brightness is different, so why not be able to adjust how bright or dim you want it to be?
There are more things that I'd like to see in android, but at the moment this is all i can think about. Feel free to reply saying something you'd like to see in Android 4.3 / 5.
x2 battery performance > it's enough for me now
Some nice suggestions, but yeah Android needs a culture change where a phone continues to receive updates up until the updates surpass the phones capabilities. It sucks to see good phones left behind, I do understand the custom ROM argument but for everyone this isn't ideal
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Excellent background process contro that should not eat too much battery easily and touchscreen responsiveness this is the only thing i expect currently.
Everything sounds pretty good except the on screen keys. No thanks.
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I think the best way to solve the OEM issue is for samsung, htc, and other manufacturers to make apps which are independent of any framework so that it can be easily updated to the latest android because porting an app is easier than a whole framework
Increase the battery by 10
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They need to get rid of the slow and bloated java garbage in the core system apps. Google spouts about optimizing this and streamlining that to improve performance. They prelink the core libraries to further improve performance. And then they go and use a crappy, slow virtual machine language for most of the system.
Java is fine for apps in the app store for developers that dont know c/c++. It should not be used as extensively in the core of android as it is.
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They need to get rid of the slow and bloated java garbage in the core system apps. Google spouts about optimizing this and streamlining that to improve performance. They prelink the core libraries to further improve performance. And then they go and use a crappy, slow virtual machine language for most of the system.
Java is fine for apps in the app store for developers that dont know c/c++. It should not be used as extensively in the core of android as it is.
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You sound like you hate android lol
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I can't think of anything because I fail at imagination so ill just say things I want from skinned androids that should be added to stock.
1. Smart dialer. Pressing numbers should look up contacts like t9.
2. Battery percentage in status bar. I don't know if this is due to patents that aapl has but Samsung and lg get away with having it.
3. Able to remove home screens. I only use 4-5 and I want the ability to remove the rest like every oem skin.
4. Power saver. Battery life is very important and android needs a way to make it last longer.
5. Facebook contact sync. Not sure why this is not allowed on stock Android.
These are my top 5. As for something new I would like them to improve on giving apps permission. I think every app should ask you when you first start it if it can be allowed to use your gps and if it can be allowed to send push notifications. It's the only thing I like on ios and it'll help with a lot of notification spam.
Also, why does the new gmaps look better on ios than on android. That's not acceptable.
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My biggest problem is the update process of 3rd party android manufacturers. Android 4.2 has been out for a couple months yet my Galaxy SII was only recently updated to 4.1. I know it is more than capable of running 4.2 as I'm running aokp/cm10.1 right now so I'm wondering why? Even the SIII is still on 4.1 and if a couple of guys (aokp/cm10.1/paranoid android) could port within a month or two then why can't major companies who have hundreds of employees. Just look at what the paranoid android team has accomplished with P. A. 3.0 it's like a new version of android, all done within a few months. That said, I like to have the latest updates on my phone so with this being my first Android phone, I think I might bypass anything that isn't a nexus. Google or somebody needs to put their foot down
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Yeh. I definitely have to agree with the touchscreen's responsiveness. Aside from that, battery performance really needs to be optimized.
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I've never understood why everyone wants oem skins to go away. If that happened every phone would be the same so there would be no incentive for say Samsung or HTC to even make phones. The skins are what makes android. Why would I buy a nexus versus a HTC pure android phone?
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I think from now android should work on its AI and Virtual Memory to makes itself so smooth and powerful !
i saw a video clip that compare 2 powerful cellphone Galaxy S III and IPhone 5
in first look Galaxy S III has 4 core and IPhone has only 2 but IPhone is powerful enough to defeat its opponent !
Why ? there's one , only one reason to say the IPhone is too powerful and it's its OS !
IOS is very powerful than android !
if u don't satisfy just go and do a search about it !
i want android to work on it's AI !!
I realize this is stupid but...
With the androidx86 project (that I think is KILLER!!!) I'd like to see them either implement desktop support or do things that would entice more people to get involved. How bad ass would x86 running and then being able to use your phone as a second screen be? Or as remote access? And since they are both natively running (relatively speaking) it would be a real remote desktop as compared to jittery/almost remote desktop on a phone.
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Everything sounds pretty good except the on screen keys. No thanks.
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the thing about them though, is they're future proof in a way. look how the menu key is becoming obsolete, but it's still going to be on certain devices no matter what.
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My biggest problem is the update process of 3rd party android manufacturers. Android 4.2 has been out for a couple months yet my Galaxy SII was only recently updated to 4.1. I know it is more than capable of running 4.2 as I'm running aokp/cm10.1 right now so I'm wondering why? Even the SIII is still on 4.1 and if a couple of guys (aokp/cm10.1/paranoid android) could port within a month or two then why can't major companies who have hundreds of employees. Just look at what the paranoid android team has accomplished with P. A. 3.0 it's like a new version of android, all done within a few months. That said, I like to have the latest updates on my phone so with this being my first Android phone, I think I might bypass anything that isn't a nexus. Google or somebody needs to put their foot down
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imho, i think manufactures want to release their new flagship with the newest OS to attract customers (which is really doesn't) . our devs here shows what can be done. with a whole team like HTC/Samsung/Etc has, we should all see updates within a month or less. devs can do it on their own, so why can't they?
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I've never understood why everyone wants oem skins to go away. If that happened every phone would be the same so there would be no incentive for say Samsung or HTC to even make phones. The skins are what makes android. Why would I buy a nexus versus a HTC pure android phone?
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i like skins, don't get me wrong. i have a note ii, and i miss sense daily. they just over do it sometimes. i personally get very annoyed by touchwiz, and you have much more freedom on AOSP. i think apps should just be backward compatible all around.
You say the you would like to see the back button "fixed". I have never got why people always say this. For me anyway, the back button has always performed how I would expect (take me back to the previous screen). Don't get me wrong, android has plenty of flaws, but I don't think this is one of them.
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You say the you would like to see the back button "fixed". I have never got why people always say this. For me anyway, the back button has always performed how I would expect (take me back to the previous screen). Don't get me wrong, android has plenty of flaws, but I don't think this is one of them.
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it works for the most part, but it glitches occasionally.
MadManMark said:
Some nice suggestions, but yeah Android needs a culture change where a phone continues to receive updates up until the updates surpass the phones capabilities. It sucks to see good phones left behind, I do understand the custom ROM argument but for everyone this isn't ideal
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One of the biggest reasons I only stick with Google backed Android devices (Nexus 4, Galaxy Nexus, etc.). It's the device manufacturers and the phone companies that hold up the updates. I've heard numbers where HTC can get the update out 3-4 months after Google releases it, but Verizon could add another 6 months to that timeline. Not quite sure what the exact reasons are for the delay =(
Considering some of the Google Now features, I'd love to see Google buy/license Tasker so that it becomes and integrated part of Android, at least for some key items:
WIFI, GPS, Ringer settings, Sync settings, etc. Those features would be amazing.
It would also be great if I could say: "Turn on WIFI/GPS/Autobrightness, Sync Calendar, Turn off ringer, etc" while in Google Now and have the action executed.
Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but why are there not any ROMs for the SM-P9000, I mean this tablet has been out for several months and there is still nothing? Not complaining, just curious...
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Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but why are there not any ROMs for the SM-P9000, I mean this tablet has been out for several months and there is still nothing? Not complaining, just curious...
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It costs too much and has a very small user base.
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Hmm... Makes sense. Thanks for the answer.
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Hmm... Makes sense. Thanks for the answer.
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The price is dropping-slowly. Maybe once the prices drop to a more reasonable rate, folks will buy it and more interest will grow in building Roms. I bought mine the second day it arrived on Verizon, just glad that the Verizon version finally got rooted and I was able to install my Root-Only apps and Xposed.
I agree, after root you remove/freeze bloatware, add all the apps to multi-window and pen window, use xposed modules, it's as good as a custom ROM.
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I agree, after root you remove/freeze bloatware, add all the apps to multi-window and pen window, use xposed modules, it's as good as a custom ROM.
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Yup! Can't wait until we either get Safestrap or break the Bootloader so we can have Custom Kernels....but for right now-I'm ok with it. It runs so much better since I've removed all the bloatware.
Also, there is a few really great market apps that supplement the multi window and add most other apps too.
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Yeah the only thing I wish I could do is customize the look of the notification and quick settings shade. Wanam is only partially helpful with this (increased the number of quick tiles thats about it).
I primarily use the tablet in landscape mode and it irks the crap out of me that the entire screen isn't utilized. Having the screen underneath visible on the left and right quarters of the screen is meaningless to me when they're forcing me to scroll vertically through notifications due to lack of width so I'd like to either reduce the font sizes in the shade (system wide LCD density screws up stock keyboard) or have more flexibility on the layout.
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...system wide LCD density screws up stock keyboard...
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Have you tried app settings module in xposed? You could change system DPI and then use this module to change any app DPI back to default if they don't behave.
Yeah if memory serves this fixed full sized landscape keyboard layout but there were other issues with the other modes of the keyboard. It's been a while though, are you using it that way?
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I use that module to lower DPI for some apps. Many system apps don't look good at custom resolution.
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Except that Touchwiz is still annoying to deal with and bogs down the system. Even with a pretty high clock dual-quad-core processor, I still experience some stutters and "slow" app launches, etc.
Custom ROMs or a stock ROM for this tablet while keeping pressure sensitivity for the S Pen in tact would be amazing. Not to mention that this tablet doesn't get horrible battery life, but it would far better running a more stock experience with something like Franco Kernel.
It's pretty disappointing that this tablet is basically zero dev support, but it's not surprising since it's such a niche tablet. Most consumers don't want a huge tablet, plus the price tag is pretty high. With a screen this large, it also makes sense to have an actual keyboard, which adds even more to the cost.
This tablet would be even more amazing with dev support, but don't hold your breath because it likely will never get any love. We'd be lucky to get a single stable custom ROM project before this becomes a piece of "outdated" kit.
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Except that Touchwiz is still annoying to deal with and bogs down the system. Even with a pretty high clock dual-quad-core processor, I still experience some stutters and "slow" app launches, etc.
Custom ROMs or a stock ROM for this tablet while keeping pressure sensitivity for the S Pen in tact would be amazing. Not to mention that this tablet doesn't get horrible battery life, but it would far better running a more stock experience with something like Franco Kernel.
It's pretty disappointing that this tablet is basically zero dev support, but it's not surprising since it's such a niche tablet. Most consumers don't want a huge tablet, plus the price tag is pretty high. With a screen this large, it also makes sense to have an actual keyboard, which adds even more to the cost.
This tablet would be even more amazing with dev support, but don't hold your breath because it likely will never get any love. We'd be lucky to get a single stable custom ROM project before this becomes a piece of "outdated" kit.
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I hope we get cyanogenmod at least. hate touchqiz.
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I hope we get cyanogenmod at least. hate touchqiz.
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I have owned the Note 8.0, the Note 10.1 2014, and now the Note Pro 12.2. I do not understand why some one spends the extra money for a device with the S Pen and then wants a rom that will make the S Pen utterly useless. Besides that, The Note 8.0 did get Cyanogenmod but the Note 10.1 2014 has not as yet gotten anything but customized Touchwiz roms.
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I have owned the Note 8.0, the Note 10.1 2014, and now the Note Pro 12.2. I do not understand why some one spends the extra money for a device with the S Pen and then wants a rom that will make the S Pen utterly useless. Besides that, The Note 8.0 did get Cyanogenmod but the Note 10.1 2014 has not as yet gotten anything but customized Touchwiz roms.
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I agree 100%. Whenever, people ask me for my opinion as to what tablet to get (or rather should they get what i have - either the note 8.0 or the note pro) I actually tend to steer them away from the note series. I explain to them that if they are not going to use the S-Pen extensively then they should get another tablet with better specs (one that is more optimized for gaming or watching video). As far as I'm concerned the S-Pen is the selling point of the Note series tablets - so why render it useless or even limit the capabilities of it with a Rom that would do that?
P.S. In regards to getting a tablet optimized for gaming or watching video I just picked up a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (for my wife) from Best Buy. I wasn't really in the market for another tablet but they have a deal where you can trade in your working tablet (that's in their database) and get $50 off (or even more if the value of it is worth more) plus another $50 off toward the purchase of a Galaxy Tab S tablet. They will allow up to two tablets to trade in. Since my wife and I both had HTC Flyers lying around collecting dust we decided to trade them in. Combined with other Best Buy discounts I got a total of $171 off . Because of this it made me just purchase it (did I say it was for my wife:laugh The display is stunning.
I haven't owned a Note device prior to this one, but I doubt that devs are incapable of rummaging through Samsung's code and finding the bits that pertain to S Pen functionality. The sensors are built into the device--the rest is software. With all the crazy stuff that devs can do on Nexus devices, I'd think that a clever dev could maintain the S Pen functions while offering a more stock experience.
It's pretty sad that Samsung forces such an annoying, heavy UI on its consumers when other OEMs are moving closer to a stock experience. I wouldn't even have the desire for a custom ROM on this tablet if it were closer to stock Android. But there are just annoying bits like the headhphone volume warning every time I want to turn up the volume. Does Sammy really think its consumers are so idiotic that they can't handle their own volume controls without going deaf?
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I haven't owned a Note device prior to this one, but I doubt that devs are incapable of rummaging through Samsung's code and finding the bits that pertain to S Pen functionality. The sensors are built into the device--the rest is software. With all the crazy stuff that devs can do on Nexus devices, I'd think that a clever dev could maintain the S Pen functions while offering a more stock experience.
It's pretty sad that Samsung forces such an annoying, heavy UI on its consumers when other OEMs are moving closer to a stock experience. I wouldn't even have the desire for a custom ROM on this tablet if it were closer to stock Android. But there are just annoying bits like the headhphone volume warning every time I want to turn up the volume. Does Sammy really think its consumers are so idiotic that they can't handle their own volume controls without going deaf?
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Yea, there are a lot of stupid little annoyances with Touchwiz (not to mention the excessive bloatware). But in my experience with the Note devices it is much better to have a Touchwiz base custom Rom rather than removing it altogether. Even though the devs do a remarkable job, once you remove Touchwiz there are just too many issues to deal with in getting the same functionality out of the S-Pen that you have actually paid more for.It just doesn't seem to be integrated enough once you remove Touchwiz. To me it seems as if it becomes just a regular tablet that you can use a stylus on with apps that call for it. And if that is the case I would just buy, say a Tab Pro and a stylus. Also in regards to those little annoyances (and the bloatware) there are plenty of modules that can be used to minimize them. This tablet would be perfect if CivZ was able to make a custom rom and kernel like he has done for the Note 8.0:good:
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It costs too much and has a very small user base.
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Price shouldn't be an issue anymore. Price on refurbs is pretty low. I just picked up the Note Pro 12.2 for $429 - 13% ebay bucks = $375
Permissive kernel would be great
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Guys,
Just freeze all stuff you find to be non sense, heavy, resource intensive or you just don't like, install Xposed Framework, Nova Launcher or other of your taste and voila, you get a totally customized rom without loosing any of the native features of the Samsung original rom. You don't need to have a miscellany of custom roms to be happy. I totally agree about having a very expensive device and not using its native features. Nonsense. It's not only the hardware, but the software implementation that it's also awesome. I believe samsung was the first to implement multi window in an android device and IMHO it's better then Halo (I believe this is the name).
My first tablet was a xoom and I still have it. Old hardware, slow, but its construction quality reminds me the iPad. With OmniRom it performs just well. After it I only had Samsung Note tablets and phones. All disposable, peace of junk if you compare to the quality of the iPad, or even with the xoom, but the project is absolutely great. Hardware and software working in perfect tune. Disposable, but while it's working it's just great. And of course, if you take good care of it, it will last some years (don't drop it please). So, keep it original, that's the great thing on the Note line of tablets (and phones), customize it with the tools available around and you'll see how good these tablets can be. Having good customized and optimized TW roms is always good, but similar results can be achieved without flashing a single zip.
Root is a must!
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I'm a big phone junkie. Would like to try various phones. Used bb10 for a long time and since then I've tried many android phones before settling down on the new BlackBerry dtek50. Big fan of BlackBerry android features such as hub, productivity tab, swipe up short cuts etc.
Is it worth getting the honor 8 in my case? Not a big gamer - heavy business's user with phone, email, text and browsing. I'll probably miss the BlackBerry features a lot. But reviews for this phone is pretty good. Would u guys recommend this?
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Go to best buy if you can and try one out. The UI is not the best the phone hardware is amazing though...
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Jesushasadroid said:
Go to best buy if you can and try one out. The UI is not the best the phone hardware is amazing though...
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I would love to. But I'm in canada and no one carries this phone for a demo.
The emui 5 update is supposed to be a lot better than the current one. Not sure whether i can update the honor8 with that yet. The websites say its available only for UK users.
It will update on Honor 8 at some point
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I'm a big phone junkie. Would like to try various phones. Used bb10 for a long time and since then I've tried many android phones before settling down on the new BlackBerry dtek50. Big fan of BlackBerry android features such as hub, productivity tab, swipe up short cuts etc.
Is it worth getting the honor 8 in my case? Not a big gamer - heavy business's user with phone, email, text and browsing. I'll probably miss the BlackBerry features a lot. But reviews for this phone is pretty good. Would u guys recommend this?
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If you have High priority for your camera, then you can go for Honor 8. Else OP3T will be good.
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If you have High priority for your camera, then you can go for Honor 8. Else OP3T will be good.
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Im not a big fan of big phones. 5.5" is too big for me. Max is 5.2-5.3"
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I am going from a Nexus 6p to this phone. After it updates with the latest FW its actually not a bad device. A lot of reviewers highlight problems that are now fixed such as the backlight and a few interface glitches. The audio is not as good as my 6p headphone wise but it is live withable. I am thinking if I root it and see if viper audio loads it may fix that issue. The fingerprint reader works faster then on my n6p however it does have to be more on the reader (my 6p would unlock if I had half my finger on the sensor) but also acts as a button and swipe commands.
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Im not a big fan of big phones. 5.5" is too big for me. Max is 5.2-5.3"
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Oh... Then Honor 8 is the right one.
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I would love to. But I'm in canada and no one carries this phone for a demo.
The emui 5 update is supposed to be a lot better than the current one. Not sure whether i can update the honor8 with that yet. The websites say its available only for UK users.
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This is purely speculation, but I'd guess they'll roll out EMUI 5/Nougat for everyone in a month or two. The US closed beta has already started and I really like the changes. There's one going on in India and China as well.
My biggest reservation when picking up the phone a little under two months ago was the software. Reviews made EMUI 4.1 sound like the worst thing ever. I wasn't a huge fan of the task switcher which scrolls horizontally and shows the recently run apps as unstacked screenshots with a tendency (for me at least) to overscroll when I just wanted to move one to the left or right, but it worked well enough. The notification shade is also split between a left tab with notifications and a right tab with settings. You can swipe left or right on the opened shade to go between the two and there's an option to pick which you want to access by which side of the top of the screen you swipe down from. But I have tiny, Trump-like hands, so I use the swipe down on the fingerprint sensor to access it usually. Accessing it that way will open it to the left tab with notifications if you have any currently, but defaults to the right quick toggle options for WiFi, NFC, flashlight/torch, etc if you do not. I don't think it was the best way to set that up, but I pretty quickly got used to it.
You also have to manually whitelist apps you want to have continue running when the screen is turned off and enable notifications to show up on the lock screen. The average person might have trouble with this, but I'd think most people reading this forum either figured it out for themselves or you can just post here and ask how to do it (there's already a couple threads on it).
If you do pick up an Honor 8 I'd recommend a case and screen protector as I find it rather slippery without one.
As was previously suggested I'd try the phone out in Best Buy and see if you like it. Now's a good time to buy one if you do as there's a bunch of sales going on. Overall, I really like the phone and the EMUI 5 update has made it even better.
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I would love to. But I'm in canada and no one carries this phone for a demo.
The emui 5 update is supposed to be a lot better than the current one. Not sure whether i can update the honor8 with that yet. The websites say its available only for UK users.
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emui5 does look promising
Agree with the UI not being the best but the software is amazing, the screen is sharp and the dual cameras are superb. EMUI's gestures are really useful too.