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So I recently found out that franco kernel is no longer compatible with cyanogenmod 11. I would like to know which is more battery efficient. Having franco kernel with stock rom or cyanogenmod with the kernel that is shipped with it? Does anyone have experience in this?
battery is all about how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what apps you use, and mostly the quality of your phone/data signal. using either cm kernel or franco kernel can give you great battery life or terrible battery life. any kernel will give you great battery life or terrible battery life.
Longi94 said:
So I recently found out that franco kernel is no longer compatible with cyanogenmod 11. I would like to know which is more battery efficient. Having franco kernel with stock rom or cyanogenmod with the kernel that is shipped with it? Does anyone have experience in this?
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Both are good and have their (dis)advantages. No one can tell you whats best cause different users have different preferences and needs. Best is to try them out yourself and see what you like best.
I am aware of that. I admit that I am quite the power user which mostly results in a pretty bad battery life. I just wanted to know which option has the better potential with the same amount of usage. I guess I'll experiment with it myself then
Longi94 said:
I am aware of that. I admit that I am quite the power user which mostly results in a pretty bad battery life. I just wanted to know which option has the better potential with the same amount of usage. I guess I'll experiment with it myself then
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im one of the heaviest users you will meet, yet i still see a minimum of 5h+ screen on time every day. set up your device right, and if you have a great signal you will have very hood battery life no matter what you use.
Combine rooted stock, Franco kernel and the Xposed framework plus it's various modules and you will get most of the Custom ROM features along with better battery life and stability. I'm very pleased with that combo.
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One of the reasons I purchased the Nexus 5 is because it is Android at is purest. After I got the phone, I used it for a while without rooting it, until I needed to use an app that required root. So about a month after having the phone, I rooted it. Now I am finding some things that KitKat doesn't let you customize. They are all minor interface things but I'm sure everyone here can relate... I want more customization. So, here are my questions:
How long before you rooted and/or flashed a custom ROM?
Are you happy with the stability of your custom ROM?
Any difference in battery life?
Which custom ROM are you using and why?
1. Day one I rooted.
2. Most roms on a nexus are stable... Except maybe some nighties, which are works in progress.
3. Roms have very little impact on battery life.... So don't use that as a deciding point.
4. Mostly you'll just get a list of the most popular roms when you ask that. But I'll say Graviton. Cause it's a little different than some... And the Dev is very active in his rom thread. Always a good thing.
5. questions go in Q&A. For future reference. ?
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I have rooted the device, the first day I got it, uninstalled bloatware and other crap, installed *my* favorite Apple and I am happy. I did Not finden *any* thing, which could not be customized. What specific point are you missing in customization? My device runs fine, I use Greenify app, so the battery runs about 48 to 60 hours depending on the programs I use. Video is more battery consuming that making a call of course.
@x000111
There's another alternative in case you have a dilemma whether to stay on or leave stock ROM. Check out my GravityBox project (xposed module).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049
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There's another alternative in case you have a dilemma whether to stay on or leave stock ROM. Check out my GravityBox project (xposed module).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049
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Wow, I just started using Xposed on my tablet but didn't realize it was capable of all of this. Definitely going to try this out before flashing a new ROM.
P.S. Sorry, not sure what I was thinking... for some reason, I thought I was posting in Q&A.
I left it for 3 months. Then used xposed and gravity box to get the notification toggles the way they should be.
I shouldn't have to have it take me into settings to toggle data on and off.
Other than that stock is pretty well perfect for me.
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x000111 said:
Android at is purest.
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Stock Nexus is Android at its purest... with Google apps and services added.
After the OTA images of Lollipop came out, I knew since I was rooted, I would have to do a manual install. So I'm back to stock (non-rooted). Right now, I don't see a reason to root. So far Lollipop 5.0 is serving it's purpose. Yet another huge step in the right direction by Google.
Flashed 5.0 factory images the day they came out, was not satisfied with the OS as a whole, so now flashed a custom ROM Mahdi till 5.x.x comes out or any AOSP 5.0 rom comes out.
gamer.11 said:
Flashed 5.0 factory images the day they came out, was not satisfied with the OS as a whole, so now flashed a custom ROM Mahdi till 5.x.x comes out or any AOSP 5.0 rom comes out.
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AOSP 5.0 roms are already out.
I ordered mine Oct 31 last year. Unlocked the bootloader day one. Probably stayed stock for a bit, don't know how many custom ROMs were out at the start.
Stayed on Cataclysm for a long time, went to Purity. Flashed stock 5.0, was on that a few days and now a custom ROM again.
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AOSP 5.0 roms are already out.
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I know about that, no offense to the current rom builders but I was more like waiting for slimpop or cm12 or paranoid android roms. But I have a question most of the roms come with gapps built in them which i find confusing as no rom built from source should do that, or are they just themed or mod-ed stock roms?(which is the primary reason i haven't yet tried them out)
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One of the reasons I purchased the Nexus 5 is because it is Android at is purest. After I got the phone, I used it for a while without rooting it, until I needed to use an app that required root. So about a month after having the phone, I rooted it. Now I am finding some things that KitKat doesn't let you customize. They are all minor interface things but I'm sure everyone here can relate... I want more customization. So, here are my questions:
How long before you rooted and/or flashed a custom ROM?
Are you happy with the stability of your custom ROM?
Any difference in battery life?
Which custom ROM are you using and why?
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1 - an hour
2 - I'm on lollipop rooted stock. The custom ROM team slim don't have a ROM for L yet
3 - no. This is entirely down to the user I'll expand below
4 - waiting for Slim. Suits my needs. Unique and useful features
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM.* The question itself is*ambiguous.* "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM,*ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people*are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few*pages (and have the most posts) in the*Android*Development or*Original*Android Development forums. You can also see what other people*are running by reading the*What*are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device -*they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery*if they have a feature that is badly coded.* You will likely be able*to read about this in the ROM threads.* ROMs do not impact battery*life.* The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings,*how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone*Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read*[Battery*Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective.* What we*all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the*misconception that Kernels affect battery life.* Let's get this*cleared up.* Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and*efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY*tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery*life".* This is actually wrong. *Kernels respond to user settings.*Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance*is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning.* The reason*people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their*kernels up with their preferred governor settings.* This is what we*refer to as out-of-the-box settings.* The out-of-the-box settings for*kernel x may well produce better battery results than the*out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance.* The*fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to*perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning*how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based*on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits*of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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2 - I'm on lollipop rooted stock. The custom ROM team slim don't have a ROM for L yet
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I'm looking forward to Slim coming out for Lollipop too.
rootSU said:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM.* The question itself is*ambiguous.* "Best" is obviously a subjective term....
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people*are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few*pages (and have the most posts) in the*Android*Development or*Original*Android Development forums. You can also see what other people*are running by reading the*What*are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device -*they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery...
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Thanks for the info. That is not what I'm asking or referring to. My main purpose for posting this was to see how other Nexus5 users are using their phones... I kind of wish I had named the thread after the poll I put up: What best describes the usage of your Nexus 5?
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For tips about improving battery life, please read*[Battery*Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
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I haven't had any battery issues but I'm always interested in improving battery life.
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Those are some good resources. Thanks for posting.
Hi, I have my OPO running LineageOS right now, it runs pretty good but I have some problems with it. Wi-Fi doesn't work good, even games like CarX Drift Racing are laggy. So, I know this question may be asked 100 hundred times in a row and I'm sorry for asking it again but what config (Custom ROM, Kernel and etc.) is best for OPO?
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Hi, I have my OPO running LineageOS right now, it runs pretty good but I have some problems with it. Wi-Fi doesn't work good, even games like CarX Drift Racing are laggy. So, I know this question may be asked 100 hundred times in a row and I'm sorry for asking it again but what config (Custom ROM, Kernel and etc.) is best for OPO?
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I've no issues with Lineage Os when Gaming,try tweaking it with a custom kernel.
Honestly there is no right answer. I've tried other people's suggestions that "work the best" and I have problems on my phone. Your best bet is to try out different ROMs with various kernels. For instance people usually recommend to try RR (resurrection remix) Rom and lightning kernel. I'm using it right now and have force close problems and lags.
It's up to the user discretion. Everyone has his own taste, I personally prefer LOS with Boeffla kernel.
I'm also on Official LOS with close to no real issues.
But one thing bothers me: i have the impression, that the camera was better on sultans cm, which i used before. currently i use bacon camera app, but i'm not really satisfied. what do you guys think gives the best camera performance on opo?
e: oh and the flash is not that bright as before^^
NitrogenOS is best, balance battery and performance and camera is good
Camera + Battery + Underclocking
Hi guys,
can you give me any recommendations on a rom / kernel config, which gives you the best battery life &/or better camera results.
I also read about underclocking. Do you recommend doing this when prioritizing a good camera and battery life?
I only use my smartphone for whatsapp and reddit most of the time. No gaming and very rarely social media.
Right now i'm using latest nightly LOS Oreo and get my battery replaced soon.
Hi, currently im using blu spark kernel but I'm wondering which kernel is the best if all what I care is smothness of os, scrolling etc. And second question: if I have now blu spark kernel and want to change it for a elementalx for example all I must to do is just flash new kernel in recovery or go back to stock and flash then? And third.. what options i can change in kernel audiotor to get best smothness? I'm just crazy about smothness, all my monitors have 144hz and every single, even little drop of fps make my nervous.. Thanks for answers :angel:
cherrz said:
Hi, currently im using blu spark kernel but I'm wondering which kernel is the best if all what I care is smothness of os, scrolling etc. And second question: if I have now blu spark kernel and want to change it for a elementalx for example all I must to do is just flash new kernel in recovery or go back to stock and flash then? And third.. what options i can change in kernel audiotor to get best smothness? I'm just crazy about smothness, all my monitors have 144hz and every single, even little drop of fps make my nervous.. Thanks for answers :angel:
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This is going to be tough. If smoothness is your goal then EX, Flash, Radioactive, Smurf will be potential candidates. I've heard recently a lot of people falling in love with the flash kernel but development has been halted until further notice. I personally use EX. Half these kernels achieve similar functionality so it's largely preference and what mates with your device well.
All the kernels are very good and the OP6 is naturally so fast that it's hard to tell which one is better.
Indeed, a lot of people say flash kernel is the fastest and the one with the best performance. I can tell it's blazing fast. But is it faster than others? I couldn't tell for sure.
From my personal experience, I can tell Flash is great (but not maintained anymore, so don't expect it to keep working after a few OOS updates), otherwise I really love blu spark and FK. However, these two have bugs with camera since OOS 9.0.2 so I'd recommend to wait for a move from OP or them before recommending them.
Fourth great recommendation, EX: it's really good and rock-stable.
I use EX Kernel and it's insanely stable and 100% smooth. Never had a hiccup, stutters or lag with the kernel and achieve 9-11 hours of screen on time per charge. I've used flash kernel in the past but was a time but more performance based and not quite as good with battery then EX is but I read it's no longer in development which I find strange. The flash had been the kernels for OnePlus devices since the 5 that I know of and I think since the 3 actually.
From my experience, Flash and BluSpark kernels are the smoothest. EX and FK are more battery friendly.
Also, both Flash and BluSpark had way better Antutu benchmarks when comparing to EX/FK.
i think right now there's no real custom rom that surpasses miui in performance or battery life, i honestly hate miui but every other rom i go to is worse in (only) these two category's,
do you think custom roms will surpass miui eventually?
also this is from my experiences so far so if you have a suggestion for a rom or a rom+kernel combo i'd like to hear them (and try them).
really ????????????
Yeah same like me .. i unlocked bootloader and rooted my poco
And i downloaded all custom roms .. but all have problems .. and i hope rom one ui complete cus .. just this rom will be good like miui .. cus i already trying the miui one ui . But not finished... And i try all kernels .. all charge battery very slowly.. not like miui .. fast charge real ..and i trying the mod XASP and this not working on miui 9.5.23 .. please if u found something new or good like charge faster .. and keeping battery .. will be good ... Thanks... And i sorry for my language
Mi-globe's ROM Builder is great for putting together a fairly debloated MIUI. I get the best performance and battery life with this rom, hands down.
As far as non-miui custom ROMs, PE CAF + Stock MIUI kernel, and the latest vendor/firmware is the best combo that I've found.
Next to PE CAF I like Havoc + Canting Kernel as well.
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Mi-globe's ROM Builder is great for putting together a fairly debloated MIUI. I get the best performance and battery life with this rom, hands down.
As far as non-miui custom ROMs, PE CAF + Stock MIUI kernel, and the latest vendor/firmware is the best combo that I've found.
Next to PE CAF I like Havoc + Canting Kernel as well.
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How can I find the stock kernel to flash it on pe caf? I like the rom but i'm getting low SoT on warp kernel
You are right about the battery and it's understandable that it wouldn't be that great on many custom ROMs due to the nature of MIUI to kill/restrict background apps or don't let them autostart by default.
But performance wise, I played PUBG on MIUI and I was devastated by how it performs, forget the benchmarks, they are all pumped on MIUI, but still getting better benchmark score and very very smooth gameplay on OxygenOS+eXtremeKernel. I tried going back to Stock MIUI after GameBoost was said to be improved, but it was not up to the mark in any way.
I used to run Official LOS and had fluid performance and decent battery combo on FrancoKernel before this and would get back as soon as I stop playing games
Edit: LOS+FK is more stable if you are not into games, and you should definitely give it a try. You can use Performance Profiles of FK Kernel Manager(paid app, worth it) to get more battery when needed.
Edit2: Just read the original developer's tweet in eXtreme Kernel thread, going to ditch this, OOS default kernel is also better.
BentMetal said:
Mi-globe's ROM Builder is great for putting together a fairly debloated MIUI. I get the best performance and battery life with this rom, hands down.
As far as non-miui custom ROMs, PE CAF + Stock MIUI kernel, and the latest vendor/firmware is the best combo that I've found.
Next to PE CAF I like Havoc + Canting Kernel as well.
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how can i find the stock miui kernel?
vijay-in said:
You are right about the battery and it's understandable that it wouldn't be that great on many custom ROMs due to the nature of MIUI to kill/restrict background apps or don't let them autostart by default.
But performance wise, I played PUBG on MIUI and I was devastated by how it performs, forget the benchmarks, they are all pumped on MIUI, but still getting better benchmark score and very very smooth gameplay on OxygenOS+eXtremeKernel. I tried going back to Stock MIUI after GameBoost was said to be improved, but it was not up to the mark in any way.
I used to run Official LOS and had fluid performance and decent battery combo on FrancoKernel before this and would get back as soon as I stop playing games
Edit: LOS+FK is more stable if you are not into games, and you should definitely give it a try. You can use Performance Profiles of FK Kernel Manager(paid app, worth it) to get more battery when needed.
Edit2: Just read the original developer's tweet in eXtreme Kernel thread, going to ditch this, OOS default kernel is also better.
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yeah, i tried LOS with franco and battery-wise LOS was better with it's stock kernel for me, but idk why i don't really like LOS, so far the best Roms i tried and liked were crdroid nitrogen and PE right now im using miui eu
BLUEPOP said:
how can i find the stock miui kernel?
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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zGc3v1ahsN2dpkPppNAJJMDHKl8jnQmj
It's kernel-beryllium_global_9.5.20-ak2.zip
credits to IPdev
Barbarian king said:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zGc3v1ahsN2dpkPppNAJJMDHKl8jnQmj
It's kernel-beryllium_global_9.5.20-ak2.zip
credits to IPdev
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Thanks, You think it will work with pixel experience CAF?
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yeah, i tried LOS with franco and battery-wise LOS was better with it's stock kernel for me, but idk why i don't really like LOS, so far the best Roms i tried and liked were crdroid nitrogen and PE right now im using miui eu
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If you like the MIUI flavor, you can stick to stock and debloat it. If you liked PE, you would love LOS along with Pix3lify Magisk Module and some other mods, as this makes it the same with greater performance.
I think I'll try PE with the stock miui kernel don't really want to use magisk because some games I play block it
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Thanks, You think it will work with pixel experience CAF?
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Yeah.
BLUEPOP said:
I think I'll try PE with the stock miui kernel don't really want to use magisk because some games I play block it
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Can you please update us about performance/battery when you do that? I'm in the same situation as yours with pe caf.
Paquinho said:
Can you please update us about performance/battery when you do that? I'm in the same situation as yours with pe caf.
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i'll try, so far i did an antutu benchmark and got a score of 280000 which is decent tbh, i'll try to update about battery life tomorrow, im using this kernel - kernel-beryllium_global_9.5.20-ak2.zip.
I have the same feeling. I have tried almost all custom ROMs on Poco F1, but never got the same level of performance that I get from Miui. And no, I am not a Miui fanboy. Infact this is the first time I am using miui and I just hate it for the amount of bloatware it comes with. I am saving money and as soon as I have enough, I will ditch this device and go for Samsung Galaxy S10e or OnePlus 7 pro.
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I have the same feeling. I have tried almost all custom ROMs on Poco F1, but never got the same level of performance that I get from Miui. And no, I am not a Miui fanboy. Infact this is the first time I am using miui and I just hate it for the amount of bloatware it comes with. I am saving money and as soon as I have enough, I will ditch this device and go for Samsung Galaxy S10e or OnePlus 7 pro.
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well i plan to use this device for around 2-3 years so i hope custom roms will get better.
well after using it for a bit the stock kernel doesn't work well for me at PE, idk why but im assuming it just works better with MIUI, im on MALAKAS KERNEL for now.
In my case, the performance only went up, when I'm using custom ROMs. I'm using CrDroid now, which is a hella lot smoother and performs way better than MIUI ever did, I didn't notice a huge battery impact. On MIUI I was using my phone for 2 days before charging, same goes for this custom ROM. My main concern with MIUI were it's features, like the hide notch function was removed in pie, and little things like that, that pi*sed me off.
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In my case, the performance only went up, when I'm using custom ROMs. I'm using CrDroid now, which is a hella lot smoother and performs way better than MIUI ever did, I didn't notice a huge battery impact. On MIUI I was using my phone for 2 days before charging, same goes for this custom ROM. My main concern with MIUI were it's features, like the hide notch function was removed in pie, and little things like that, that pi*sed me off.
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It is not removed. Just a missing function in 10.2.3. Update to the global latest stable of MIUI, you'll get that option.