Which ROM after CM 12.1? - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I am still on CM12.1 and my Moto G sometimes just turns itself off, even when battery is at 60+ percent.
I want to try a different ROM, but I don't know which one. I am looking for a stable ROM with Android 6.0 and up. Don't care for lots of features or dual-sim support, it only needs to be stable as a daily driver.
Any recommendations?

Try AospExtended ROM V3.1 with Zerobyte kernel. You will not be disappointed.

Waancho said:
Try AospExtended ROM V3.1 with Zerobyte kernel. You will not be disappointed.
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Thanks. But I don' think this is the right ROM for me, looks heavily modified with a lot of cherry-picks. I think I'll give LineageOS 14.1 a try.

Is LineageOS not heavily modified?

I was also still on CM12.1 until last week (didn't have any problems whatsoever though) and now tried Lineage for a few days but I had some performance problems, so I switched to CM13 and that's really great so far. Very smooth with a few improvements over CM12, while I don't miss any features from Nougat

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Chose stable custom rom for my sis

Hello people
My sister is considering flashind custom rom on her SGS Advance. And because I'm not familiar with Samsung devices (I have two Sony :>)
I would like to ask you to help me chose the most stable and fully functional custom ROM.
At the moment she has stock JB installed but it has some freezes and doesn't run very well.
What can you recommend? It doesn't have to be the nevest android.
I think I would chose between SkimKat 4.4, CyanogenMod 11 by Team Canjica and VanirAOSP 4.4.4. I know those are very good custom roms.
Can you tell me if there are any issues with those? like reboots, not working features?
If you say custom ROMs, there is no ROM which is bug free but there are stable ROMs.
Stability depends on how and what you use. All 4.4 ROMs have reached to a state where you can use them for daily use.
I am Using CM11 nightly 20140614 and dont have any problems.
All the ROMs have their dev and Q/A threads, you can check them for the most stable builds and the working/non working functionality.
Try the latest vanir aosp its fast, fluid and stable...
For me its the most stable rom yet
Well SlimKat seems to be bugless.
VanirAOSP has some bugs with SystemUI
Go for the slimkat(final). It's the smoothest, fastest rom for our phone.
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lozohcum said:
Hello people
My sister is considering flashind custom rom on her SGS Advance. And because I'm not familiar with Samsung devices (I have two Sony :>)
I would like to ask you to help me chose the most stable and fully functional custom ROM.
At the moment she has stock JB installed but it has some freezes and doesn't run very well.
What can you recommend? It doesn't have to be the nevest android.
I think I would chose between SkimKat 4.4, CyanogenMod 11 by Team Canjica and VanirAOSP 4.4.4. I know those are very good custom roms.
Can you tell me if there are any issues with those? like reboots, not working features?
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Test all roms to see which rom fit for you
CM 10.1
Wysłane z WOO-Phablecika 4.2.2...
Vanir is the best!
AOKP 4.2.2 by PV after uninstalling and reinstalling calendar is stable.
Wysłane z AOKP-fonika 4.2.2...
I'd have to go with Vanir. Everything just works and lag is virtually non-existent. The only downside I can see is slightly shorter battery life (could be just my phone though). One advantage that i love is it has it's own updater so it's not much of a hassle to get the latest fixes and improvements!
Another option for her would be to stay with stock JB bit change her kernel to CoCore.
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I'd have to go with Vanir. Everything just works and lag is virtually non-existent. The only downside I can see is slightly shorter battery life (could be just my phone though). One advantage that i love is it has it's own updater so it's not much of a hassle to get the latest fixes and improvements!
Another option for her would be to stay with stock JB bit change her kernel to CoCore.
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More performance = more battery drain.
@lozohcum : How old is she? She want a girl theme too?
After testing almost every ROM, i think that CM10.1 is the most stable(with good battery backup)...
Liquid smooth 3.2 smooth as liquid with all customizations
just battery backup is 15 to 17 hr is matter
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After testing almost every ROM, i think that CM10.1 is the most stable(with good battery backup)...
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Yeah, you should try this. Cm 10.1 is awesome!
I think u can choose between VanirAOSP or AOSP from j.team.. The last one is disscontinued but its 90% finished and 100% stable.
U can choose one of them, or, simpli, test both because testing is the only (exactly) way to know if ROM is for you (or sister).
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[Q] Good and Stable Rom

Hi
I am looking for fast and stable rom for my girlfriend.
Now she is using Metallium OS but I think it has been abandoned.
I know that I should test few roms but I don't have Moto G and my girlfriend doesn't like testing on her phon
So maybe you can recommend me something?
The rom should be stable (android 5.1?) and fast. She doesn't need any options to configurate.
Fast interface in daily using (debloated) and stable are the most important.
Thanks a lot
Is the bootloader unlocked and does it has a custom recovery? If so try CyanPop (android 6.0), pretty good and stable ROM!
Everything is unlocked and custom recovery is installed
Android 6.0 is stable for now on Moto g?
CyanPop (29/11 build) is pretty stable and I've been using it as my daily ROM since about two weeks!
But this rom is for Moto G 4G, yes?
I think about Moto G (1st = 2013)
No also for 1st Gen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-cyanpop-v1-0-t3250449)!
I recommend you AICP. Imho the most stable and useful rom that i have used. It's restarting by itself sometimes (CM bug) but not so often.
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I recommend you AICP. Imho the most stable and useful rom that i have used. It's restarting by itself sometimes (CM bug) but not so often.
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Have u also tried CyanPop (latest build 29/11)?
atomic339 said:
Hi
I am looking for fast and stable rom for my girlfriend.
Now she is using Metallium OS but I think it has been abandoned.
I know that I should test few roms but I don't have Moto G and my girlfriend doesn't like testing on her phon
So maybe you can recommend me something?
The rom should be stable (android 5.1?) and fast. She doesn't need any options to configurate.
Fast interface in daily using (debloated) and stable are the most important.
Thanks a lot
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SlimSaber, best performance, estability and battery backup, I think that is the best. I tested since cm11 until Marshallow roms. If you check the post, many people think the same
Eleazarp said:
SlimSaber, best performance, estability and battery backup, I think that is the best. I tested since cm11 until Marshallow roms. If you check the post, many people think the same
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ok, op can test any rom. but I can bet u for one and only "slimsaber" there. and recommend u to not use any of Marshmallow at this time. they are still under dev.
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ok, op can test any rom. but I can bet u for one and only "slimsaber" there. and recommend u to not use any of Marshmallow at this time. they are still under dev.
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CyanPop v3.0 is stable I don't face any bugs or issues.
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CyanPop v3.0 is stable I don't face any bugs or issues.
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I saw that. very reecent update. I didn't noticed about that. sry. people are posting bugs frequently.
but I think for current days 5.1 is more stable than 6 till now. m I wrong?
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I saw that. very reecent update. I didn't noticed about that. sry. people are posting bugs frequently.
but I think for current days 5.1 is more stable than 6 till now. m I wrong?
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6.0 is as stable as 5.1 But u have to choose the right ROM
Any new rom better than CyanPop?
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Any new rom better than CyanPop?
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IMO CM 13 is a little bit better than CyanPop!
I had official stock 4.4.4 KitKat (faux123 kernel). Worked like a charm. But I wanted something new, so I upgraded with OTA to 5.1.1.
Then I used the NX ROM, which is 6.0.1 and GEEZ, I love it. I get 1 day+ battery with normal use, no bugs so far. Everything works as intended. Also, you can notice better graphics and smoother gameplay on games, from 4.4 to 6.0
Give it a try. I'm just in love with it
P.S: I got the 1st Gen Moto G 2013. Antutu marks 23,400 and with Nova Launcher you just skyrocket through the phone.
Cheers.

What is the best, most stable ROM for my LG G3 D850?

Hello. I bricked my LG G3 d850 by doing some crazy stuff and I haven't really backed up anything then. I got a new phone now so that's good. I am on 5.0.1 stock, and made a nandroid backup using TWRP.
What is the best custom rom for my phone? I realized that cm13 is not available for AT&T ;-; (I cried a little). I had bad experience with nightly builds on previous samsung phone, and do not want to use any unstable ROMs. I would like a fast, elegant rom that is very stable.. Tell me the ROMs you have used, and your suggestions! Thanks!
edit: I read about the Ressurection Remix 6.0.1 ROM, should I go with this?
Try stock base like cloudy and flumics rom.. I was using cloudy on my G2 and G3 as well... But now i updated my mobile to stock MM 6.0
mianzaim said:
Try stock base like cloudy and flumics rom.. I was using cloudy on my G2 and G3 as well... But now i updated my mobile to stock MM 6.0
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Stock MM on D850 ??
I mean to say factory not coustom rom anymore...
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Stock MM on D850 ??
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I'm running candysix on mine. Seems pretty stable. Has some SD card bug. I Dont have an sdcard on mine, so can't confirm
There's no such thing as the "best" ROM. Nor is there a such thing as "the most stable". That's why everyone uses different ROMs. I may like something in a ROM that you don't or you may find it useless. A ROM may have something that I find necessary but you may find it useless. Everyone uses their phones differently, which causes different stability of the ROM. That's why there's no such thing as "the most stable ROM".
I run fulmics 2.5 on mine the new 2.7 updTe has slow chargeing issues but 6 hours of screen on time smooth clean. Only manor issue and its been almost every rom is reboots somtimes require battery pull btw this is a stock based rom so lg apps will work just fine
So far, I've had the most luck with OctOS ROM. I've flashed most of the more popular ones including candysix and BrokenOS. I've liked all of the custom roms I've tried so far but some features were not working in the 2 I mentioned. I also experienced some random crashes and battery pulls with each ROM. I have yet to have any crashes on OctOS so I'm keeping this one for a little until the others become a little better for daily use. Hope you find one you like!
I'm using Resurrection Remix v5.6.0 Android 6.0.1 12/14/2015 Build. I am using Snap dragon camera mod and Nebula MM Kernel based off of 777 Kernel. Everything works great only issue I have is with the GPS but there are fixes in the works over at cyanogenmod. Love this ROM it has so many Customizations and goodies baked in. Keep up the great work Dev!
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I'm using Resurrection Remix v5.6.0 Android 6.0.1 12/14/2015 Build. I am using Snap dragon camera mod and Nebula MM Kernel based off of 777 Kernel. Everything works great only issue I have is with the GPS but there are fixes in the works over at cyanogenmod. Love this ROM it has so many Customizations and goodies baked in. Keep up the great work Dev!
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when a new version of CM is made, it's best not to suck with one nightly build for more than a week as fixes and patches are constantly being added daily. that's how it always is in the infant stages of a new CM number. you probably don't want to be using a rom that is over a month old and doesn't include all the latest fixes and features as, say, the January 13 D850 CM13 nightly.
not to be rude or anything.
Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk
mianzaim said:
I mean to say factory not coustom rom anymore...
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where did u get the update from? I haven't heard being release!
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where did u get the update from? I haven't heard being release!
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Here from XDA i'm not sure abut D850.. But all korean models and D855 have the update..
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when a new version of CM is made, it's best not to suck with one nightly build for more than a week as fixes and patches are constantly being added daily. that's how it always is in the infant stages of a new CM number. you probably don't want to be using a rom that is over a month old and doesn't include all the latest fixes and features as, say, the January 13 D850 CM13 nightly.
not to be rude or anything.
Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk
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Just curious as to where you found the January CM 13 nightly. From what I have read the ATT G3 has not got CM 13 quite yet just some unofficial builds. Thank you for your input but that was just a build I've been using that I enjoyed. I try different ROMs all the time, Right now I'm using Candy6 for the D850 with Nebula kernel and everything is working flawlessly. I really enjoy layers over Cm theme engine. My daily driver until more 6.0 ROMs come out I've tried all of them and so far this is my favorite and if I read correctly its an official build ported from the Nexus 6.
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Just curious as to where you found the January CM 13 nightly. From what I have read the ATT G3 has not got CM 13 quite yet just some unofficial builds. Thank you for your input but that was just a build I've been using that I enjoyed. I try different ROMs all the time, Right now I'm using Candy6 for the D850 with Nebula kernel and everything is working flawlessly. I really enjoy layers over Cm theme engine. My daily driver until more 6.0 ROMs come out I've tried all of them and so far this is my favorite and if I read correctly its an official build ported from the Nexus 6.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3276173
that would be the thread for the most constant CM13 nightly builds. yes they are unofficial, but they are still exactly how the official Nightlies would be. this CM13 rom (newest nightly is 1-18) is probably the most stable 6.0.x rom for our D850.
I was using candy before when it was CM13 base. been meaning to try it with the new AOSP base but I'm just loving CM too much.
Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3276173
that would be the thread for the most constant CM13 nightly builds. yes they are unofficial, but they are still exactly how the official Nightlies would be. this CM13 rom (newest nightly is 1-18) is probably the most stable 6.0.x rom for our D850.
I was using candy before when it was CM13 base. been meaning to try it with the new AOSP base but I'm just loving CM too much.
Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk
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Gotcha! Well thanks for the link I'm gonna check that out. I am loving this new AOSP base though and it is very stable. No gps issue and I am really enjoying layers.
Fullmic 2.7 is superb. Better than Cloudy. Amazing battery life, at least on my D852 (Canadian D850)
Why is this thread here? Are you guys developing anything? If not take to general or PMs. Thank you!
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Why is this thread here? Are you guys developing anything? If not take to general or PMs. Thank you!
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No they are not:silly: However this thread has been moved:good:
well guys. What advice would you give what is now 05.APRIL 2016 the most stable ROM ? I have Stock 4.4.2 with ROOT but i wanna something new. What prefer Android 5.x.x ? Or Adnroid 6.x.x MM ? I need most stable ROM.
Thanks
Hay, guys we have questions for the best custom ROM not the one i/you/he or someone else like. i have tried Resurrection ROM, Fulmics, CandySix, XOSP, and the official D855 MM ROM tweaked for D850, but none of them could make me their friend, as all of them has their own glitches and can't run for the long run as the daily driver.
If any one has good long run experience please tell us too,
Edited: Guys i have changed my mind after Fulmics 5.0 launched. I did install it, on my D850, the thing is fantastic. I feel like i'm having an LG G5 in my hands. So, i have really changed my mind about custom ROMs most instantly the FULMICS 5.0 is wow.

[Discussion] VanirAOSP 6.0.1 Samsung Galaxy S4 [JFLTE]

Hello everyone,
I have been on a search for a regularily updated ROM based on AOSP. Since Marshmallow, I found most ROMs for the S4 have been based on CM.
By accident, I stumbled upon VanirAOSP.
I wanted to start a discussion about the latest nigtlies for VanirAOSP as there is no discussion in relation to the S4. I found this thread but it is very much out dated:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485089
Let me know what you think!
For me it is very stable, there are regular updates and I have found no bugs so far. I would like to know if it truely is AOSP based as I get a slight CM feel off it as opposed to the AOSP based ROM, Dirty Unicorns.
Try it for yourself and see!
VanirAOSP Official Website:
http://www.vanir.co/word/
JFLTEXX ROM Download:
http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/jfltexx/
JFLTEVZW ROM Download:
http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/jfltevzw/
JFLTEUSC ROM Download:
http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/jflteusc/
JFLTETMO ROM Download:
http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/jfltetmo/
JFLTESPR ROM Download:
http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/jfltespr/
JFLTECRI ROM Download:
http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/jfltecri/
JFLTECAN ROM Download:
http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/jfltecan/
JFLTEATT ROM Download:
http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/jflteatt/
GAPPS:
http://www.emccann.net/dho/5-Gapps/
I would like to add also that I am simply just a messenger. I take no responsibility for the development of this ROM. Please pay tribute to the developers through the VanirAOSP website.
There already are several AOSP based roms. VRToxin is AOSP based. And there is an actual AOSP rom made by the JDCTeam.
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There already are several AOSP based roms. VRToxin is AOSP based. And there is an actual AOSP rom made by the JDCTeam.
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Hello,
Yeah VRToxin looks cool but it is based on many different ROMs as far as I know. Kind of like Resurrection Remix or PAC ROM. But these ROMs still lean heavily on CM, and I'm looking for a ROM like Omni ROM or Dirty Unicorns that draws completely from AOSP and adds it's own touches from there. Little to no CM.
I know about JDC Team's work and it's fantastic, but it's not really what I'm looking for as it doesn't update that often and it lacks cool features like the ones you would find in Omni ROM or DU.
Basically, I'm a contrary B*****d But Vanir says it's AOSP based, it's got some cool features, it updates regularly and it's working on my S4 so I'm going to see how things!
Taken from the VRToxin thread:
ROM OS Version: 6.0.x Marshmallow
Based On: Aosp
Version Information
Status: Stable
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I'd take JDC's performance over features. I can add the features I want to the JDC roms using Xposed, but I cannot add the performance I want to other roms, because the custom kernel in the JDC team roms isn't publicly available.
I didn't know Vanir is still being built for the S4. I saw the old rom threads not being updated anymore so I thought they dropped support.
What kernel are they using? I read that they have their own NUCLEARREACTOR kernel. Are they using for the S4 too or is it just a stock kernel?
Update: So I took VanirAOSP for a ride. The rom seems nice, it has CM influences. But that's not why I tried it. I wanted to see how it fares performance wise. And, in my opinion, JDC's AOSP is better when it comes to performance. Even on the Extreme Battery Profile, the JDC rom seems equal or slightly faster than Vanir on default settings. I didn't do any benchmarks, this is just user experience.
Other than that it seems like a solid rom. But it's not for me. Maybe if there was a way to flash alucard kernel on it.
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Taken from the VRToxin thread:
I'd take JDC's performance over features. I can add the features I want to the JDC roms using Xposed, but I cannot add the performance I want to other roms, because the custom kernel in the JDC team roms isn't publicly available.
I didn't know Vanir is still being built for the S4. I saw the old rom threads not being updated anymore so I thought they dropped support.
What kernel are they using? I read that they have their own NUCLEARREACTOR kernel. Are they using for the S4 too or is it just a stock kernel?
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Okay, now I'm confused. I was looking at this thread for VRToxin and it said this:
"XDAevDB Information
VRToxin, ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S 5
Contributors
super_extreme,*BlackDragon-Fusion,*rogersb11, _Vytux_, tman23
ROM OS Version:*6.0.x Marshmallow
ROM Firmware Required:*A custom recovery (TWRP preferrable), rom and Gapps zip files, knowledge on how to flash zip files.
Based On:*CM, Slim, Omni, AOSP
Version Information
Status:*Stable
Created*2015-11-02
Last Updated*2016-03-19"
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/unified-development/rom-vrtoxin-v1-0-mm6-0-klte-t3238785
I will give it a try though! My primary phone is an S5 so I use my S4 to test out new ROMs before committing to them.
You make a good point about performance over features. I just remember installing JDCTeam's AOSP ROM before and of course the next morning at work I Really needed a torch and had no internet to install an app! Things like a torch I took for granted in a ROM. I guess you would just need to put in more time setting it up than you would say CM, which contains many features out of the box.
Yes I set up this discussion to make people aware that the ROM is very much alive and kicking! It seems to be using a custom kernel. The picture below is from the S5 but it's the same story with the S4.
@Steve Geemaggio, you can open the camera app, set it to video and turn on the flash. It's not perfect, but it does the job in an emergency.
Also, the kernel is not really a custom one. It's more of a modified stock cm kernel from what I saw while having the rom on my device. I used Kernel Adiutor to see what I could configure, but there wasn't much to configure. CPU/GPU frequency and governors, some read-ahead cache and I-O schedulers and that's about it.
For normal everyday usage it's ok, but if you're a tweaker/poweruser there isn't much to do.
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@Steve Geemaggio, you can open the camera app, set it to video and turn on the flash. It's not perfect, but it does the job in an emergency.
Also, the kernel is not really a custom one. It's more of a modified stock cm kernel from what I saw while having the rom on my device. I used Kernel Adiutor to see what I could configure, but there wasn't much to configure. CPU/GPU frequency and governors, some read-ahead cache and I-O schedulers and that's about it.
For normal everyday usage it's ok, but if you're a tweaker/poweruser there isn't much to do.
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That's exactly what I did my friend
That's a pity about the kernel. It does seem good enough for everyday usage, but I'm starting to feel it could do better. The lack of a music player and file manager day one seemed strange to me and I find the default browser is a small bit buggy. Perhaps it's just early days for this build.
Hopefully they will make it more power user friendly as builds continue to come out.
For now I think I may try VRToxin. It looks very impressive!
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Taken from the VRToxin thread:
I'd take JDC's performance over features. I can add the features I want to the JDC roms using Xposed, but I cannot add the performance I want to other roms, because the custom kernel in the JDC team roms isn't publicly available.
I didn't know Vanir is still being built for the S4. I saw the old rom threads not being updated anymore so I thought they dropped support.
What kernel are they using? I read that they have their own NUCLEARREACTOR kernel. Are they using for the S4 too or is it just a stock kernel?
Update: So I took VanirAOSP for a ride. The rom seems nice, it has CM influences. But that's not why I tried it. I wanted to see how it fares performance wise. And, in my opinion, JDC's AOSP is better when it comes to performance. Even on the Extreme Battery Profile, the JDC rom seems equal or slightly faster than Vanir on default settings. I didn't do any benchmarks, this is just user experience.
Other than that it seems like a solid rom. But it's not for me. Maybe if there was a way to flash alucard kernel on it.
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Hello again,
I tried out VRToxin 4.0 on my S5.
My first impression, was that it looks awesome. Feature-wise, there is nothing you can't do! It is by far the most feature-rich and most unique looking ROM I have ever used.
Unfortunately I also find that it is very buggy at the moment. In the 19/03/16 release, The default calendar and clock crash as soon as you try to open them. Some features, such as 'Automatic Mode' in 'Themes' can't be used as they cause the system UI to crash every so often. I also noted that the kernel is set to 'Permissive' by default.
I like this ROM and I want to use it, but with bugs like these, I would rather the ROM was updated more often.
Thank you for the suggestion anyway and I'm glad you found Vanir to be okay.
I run this rom. Have for awhile.i believe they have a Google plus page and don't post much on xda anymore

[Q] Stable ROM for daily use?

Hi
Which ROM can you recommend for daily using?
The most important for me is bug free and stable.
if you want no risk taken with everything functional stick to noughat based ROMs. some (Lineage 14.1, crDroid, ResurectionRemix, AOSPExtended) being updates to latest sources recently.
however latest crop oreo based ROMs have almost everything working.
I use a debloated version of 4.4 on my Moto G. It's the best stable ROM. Old but works like charm.
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I use a debloated version of 4.4 on my Moto G. It's the best stable ROM. Old but works like charm.
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How about battery life?
Tolstoyevsky said:
How about battery life?
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With moderate usage, I get a SOT on about 6 hours.

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