Factors influencing watch face power consumption? - Samsung Gear S3

Hello, what factors influent watch face power consumption?
I am aware about AMOLED pixels issue. What about app. functionality?
For example: stock chronograph face is touch enabled - when touched is switches on the chronograph.
The same about faces with widgets on them.
Does app. functionality increase power consumption?
Do disabled widgets consume power?
I presume that functionality power consumption is minor regarding pixels value.
Of course, I presume that stock faces are well debugged and power savvy.
Am I correct?
Thanks!

Until a couple of days ago I had a daily battery consumption of about 20% a day (couple of calls, some email, 5/6 Whatsapp notifications, no AOD), which means a battery duration of almost 5 days. I used a pretty simple watchface (called "Submariner") with seconds hand and date.
Two days ago I switched to the Samsung Outdoor Watchface (free on the market) dark version, showing steps, day of the week and month, barometer weather and battery percentage all at the same time; I made a short trip for work (about 350Km) where I got some weather update notification and some mail; at 15:00 the batter was almost empty (i started at 5:00 AM with full charge) and the phone shut off. So with the new watchface the battery apparently last half a day. Watch was connected BT with the phone, no GPS, no audio, n AOD.
I will make another attempt in the weekend but I suppose that choosing the right watchface could mean a lot.
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sandrinopi said:
Until a couple of days ago I had a daily battery consumption of about 20% a day (couple of calls, some email, 5/6 Whatsapp notifications, no AOD), which means a battery duration of almost 5 days. I used a pretty simple watchface (called "Submariner") with seconds hand and date.
Two days ago I switched to the Samsung Outdoor Watchface (free on the market) dark version, showing steps, day of the week and month, barometer weather and battery percentage all at the same time; I made a short trip for work (about 350Km) where I got some weather update notification and some mail; at 15:00 the batter was almost empty (i started at 5:00 AM with full charge) and the phone shut off. So with the new watchface the battery apparently last half a day. Watch was connected BT with the phone, no GPS, no audio, n AOD.
I will make another attempt in the weekend but I suppose that choosing the right watchface could mean a lot.
S
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Oh no doubt. Even light color faces use more and the more going on the more power it uses. It sounds like that new face has a lot going on. I've looked at that face and you maybe unsold it to me. ☺

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[Q] Samsung Focus Flash Battery Life

Hi,
First post here, so I hope I'm posting at the right place.
Just bought an unlocked Samsung Omnia W (Focus Flash stateside) around four days ago. I didn't notice anything about the battery life the first two days since I was using it quite heavily and felt the rapid discharge was normal (the usual rigmarole- everything turned on).
Last two days, I've started using services more selectively, and still see my battery discharging at an alarming rate. I'm talking 5-8% in an hour with barely a minute or so of the screen being on for checking texts and sending a few.
I've disabled everything- location services, ALL live tiles, WiFi, Bluetooth, even went as far as to disable 3G and switched to 2G. I switched back to 3G because where I'm at I get a full 3G signal but a very light 2G signal. I've put off all background services (Gmapps was the only one, I uninstalled it). Turned off Xbox Live connection as well. Turned off facebook chat. Removed the People Tile. Three email accounts set to sync "as mail arrives".
I noticed the battery saver screen was showing me only 3 hours on 48% charge. I then completely discharged the battery through WPBench battery test (which showed 52 minutes starting at 25% battery life). Now, I've been charging it for an hour or so, and the battery saver screen shows 22% and estimates only 1 hour as the run time.
Is my battery defective? The WPBench time of 52 minutes for 25% seemed par for the Focus Flash (Engadget gave it a run time of 3 hours 30 on WP bench I think), but this fast discharge is really baffling and makes me kind of afraid to use the phone too much. I've heard the Flash has stellar battery life, so if anyone can throw some light on the matter, that would be great.
By the way, updated to 8107 two days ago through Zune. Normal usage consists of 30-40 texts a day, an hour of calls max and maybe 10-15 minutes of browsing. Battery saver screen usually shows only 9-10 hours on a full charge, though it does last a bit longer than that (14-16 hours). I'm sure such light usage doesn't warrant such a quick discharge.
I apologize if this makes for a really long read, first time here.
Thanks.
First, battery saver gives times based on previous data so it will get more accurate with time. Second, the battery will get better after about of week of use, it takes a little time to 'break in.' Third, if you are in an area that has poor reception your phone will try to find a signal a lot more and this can drain power quite a bit. Fourth, try returning everything to normal as far as background agents, email sync, and data settings ect. but turn 'battery saver' on after a full charge. If you still have bad battery life then perhaps somethng is wrong with your battery/phone.
EDIT: if you are using 'light' as your theme you will use a lot more power since amoled screens work best with black bacgrounds since the black areas are essentally 'off'
Been using a dark tile. Let's see how it handles with time.
A lot of my friends with Android phones simply keep data off since their batteries barely last if it's on, do I need to take any such harsh measures with WP? I hope not, I like my mail to arrive immediately (I have set sync on "as mail arrives").
Push email (the "as mail arrives" setting) is actually a very substantial power-drain. Setting it to even just every few minutes (5? 15? I forget what the next level down is) will help.
I may be wrong, but won't it cost less battery if the phone was getting push mail, say, three times a day for 3 separate mails as compared to checking every hour 24 times a day?
Why would you think that? The phone doesn't magically know when email is available for it, to only wake up the email sync process and data connection then and leave them off the rest of the time. It has to maintain a continuous (or nearly - often enough that you don't notice the gap) connection to the server. Even idle, any kind of live data connection uses more power than a process which stays suspended 99.9% of the time (meaning 86.4 seconds of activity per day, which is probably a pretty good estimate actually).
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Why would you think that? The phone doesn't magically know when email is available for it, to only wake up the email sync process and data connection then and leave them off the rest of the time. It has to maintain a continuous (or nearly - often enough that you don't notice the gap) connection to the server. Even idle, any kind of live data connection uses more power than a process which stays suspended 99.9% of the time (meaning 86.4 seconds of activity per day, which is probably a pretty good estimate actually).
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I thought push email and other kind of push notifications were sent from the server to the phone, and so the phone didn't have to be constantly checking for email updates...
The phone needs to be listening for those notifications. That requires running the radio (for data) at a higher-than-minimum level. Push notifications have a similar impact to push email, in terms of battery life. It's not hugely destructive - I have two email accounts that use push, and still tend to get through the day and then a bit just fine - but it does impact the battery life.

Always on Display - On or Off

Only had the Frontier several days and using the Minimal Watch Face (dark)
I haven't experimented with many watch faces.
I would like it to be on all the time, but I have no experience to know whether to set the watch to be AOD.
I would hate to ruin the battery in a short space of time e.g. 6 months.
Also, I assumed as soon as I saw some of the watch faces, that I could delete them, but doesn't seem to be the case. Pity because some of them I will never use.
AOD doesn't affect battery too much. I have everything maxed out, full brightness, AOD, location, GPS, wifi, sound, vibration, everything. And I get 2 days use, from 6am-5pm
I'm using my Gear S3 just with Bluetooth and GPS on an can use it for mor then 72 hours!
AOD has many factors that can and will affect battery life. I have found that I can make 3 solid days with AOD off and just make 2 days with AOD on. The type of watch face you use can change that.

Gear S2 battery lifespan experience?

Hello,
Gear S2 is here for about a year - what is the battery experience?
For example, someone charging the battery every day for a year - do you experience battery capacity drop?
My coworker owns Moto - after about a year of daily charging the battery lost most of its capacity making the watch unusable.
Does Samsung put better batteries?
I bought S3 recently and hope for a good news...
I have had my watch for over a year. Gear S2 classic non 3G. I charge it at night and use it all day and it is still at 60 to 70% I haven't noticed any real drop in the battery capacity
Same here. Not noticeable degradation after a year.
I received mine for Christmas 2015 and been wearing it every day since.
In fact, with the firmware upgrades, it may be better than when I first received. I do keep my brightness at 3, Always On, and Bluetooth only. No Wifi, no NFC.
I can get around 2 full days with a charge, but it takes some settings tweaking to get it. Normal stock settings, I'm lucky for 18 hours. Worse if I am running an overly elaborate watch face.
I enable Do Not Disturb when sleeping.
Delete Running widgets that you don't use (steps, heart rate, water /caffeine), stuff like that.
On the Gear Manager, go in and modify what notifications you receive on your gear.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems the more apps that send notifications, it drains both my gear and S7 battery faster.
I also like to look in the information screen, and look at the Memory Usage. CPU / Memory hogs will show there.
My setup
Style
Watch Always On - Disabled
Device
Wake Up Gesture - Off
Auto Open Apps - Disabled
Display
Brightness - 3 or 4
Auto Low Brightness - On
Screen Timeout - 15 seconds
Call
Voice Answer - Off
Messages
Send as Audio - Disabled
Connection
Bluetooth - On
WiFi - Off
NFC - Off
Alerts (Receive BT disconnection alerts) - Off
Gear Info
Report (Diagnostic and Usage) - Off

watchmaker battery drain

I have big concerns of consumption of battery with this application
Am I the only one?
You have can be trick?
Thank you
Some watch faces are too bright or consume too much battery in their always-on state. Try a watch face that has a dimmer always-on state, or take your favourite watch faces, and change their always-on state to have higher opacity.
I made a dial I same, quite black
I am going to try a reset of the watch, seen that nobody confirms me the same problem
I use this app(watchmaker) and consumption with always on display is approximately 25/30 % per day.
Wifi is switched off , Bluetooth used when needed.
krca5 said:
I use this app(watchmaker) and consumption with always on display is approximately 25/30 % per day.
Wifi is switched off , Bluetooth used when needed.
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Either some functionality on your watch is disabled or something is wrong here. No way, watchmaker can beat stock watchface. I loose 45-55 percent a day with stock gear dashboard watchface. AOD, wake-up gesture, shealth features and bluetooth on. Wifi auto. NFC, bt connection notifications off. Using GPS occasionally. Without AOD i can easily get 3 and a half day. I've never saw anyone claim to can get more than 2 days with AOD on on the forum before, so this is really confusing.
You can believe or not, but for me the battery consumption with watchmaker is lower than with stock Watchface. it is also true that some Watchface consume a little more, but we are talking about up to 10% more per day, i start to use Watch at 10am and remove Watch at 23pm,all' shealt notification on,wifi off,gps off, Bluetooth when needed,AOD always on,screen brightness 7. When use stock Watchface i lose 45/55% of battery per day.
I think I may have worked out what is going wrong, perhaps one of the developers can confirm,
under ‘my watches’ I have a number of other whatchfaces that I have downloaded, these aren’t selected on my watch but are there as an option, where as the chosen one only has basic functions, the others all have fancy meters, data sourcing apps - after deleting these from my phone and checking they are not available for selection on my watch the battery life seems to be normal, I wonder if the other watch faces are in some way working in the background and therefore draining the power even though I am not actually viewing them
It is Wi-fi connection what drains LOT of power. Be sure it is turned off when not in use to keep your power as long as possible.

Do the various watch faces consume about the same battery life?

Hi,
I have several watch faces installed on my S3.
I prefer to have it always on but I see that this causes a serious battery drain, especially with the latest OS.
Assuming about the same usage mode every day (eg lifting the hand to check the time X times per day, the same number of notifications received (FB, whatsapp, emails...), the same amount of fiddling with the watch etc), AND the screen being turned on only by the hand lifting gesture.
Is there any accepted metric that measures how much battery the watch face should eat up per hour?
For example yesterday I used one of the faces and about 3 hours after full charge - I was down by about 10%.
Today I'm using a different face and it's down "only" by 4% (which seems great compared to previous days).
Most of the faces I use are rather dark, only the HHMM is (in some of them) in a bright color.
No fancy dials turning about on the watch face.
GPS is off, I don't use the watch for sports tracking expect steps/distance/floors.
For example, today I'm using the Digital Sport Red Automatic from AP Watches - Andrea Pascolo.
Thanks.
It's now 19:15 and my battery level has dropped 25% only (11 hours), after receiving many notifications and quite a lot of fiddling with the watch setting throughout the day.
This is with the Digital Sport Red Automatic from AP Watches - Andrea Pascolo.
So in my opinion this is a very good watch face regarding battery life (not to mention that in my opinion it's both beautiful and useful for my needs).
In the next days I'll check the other faces I've purchased, regarding battery usage.
By the way, I have location=ON.
Another update.
Using the same face today but with GPS=OFF and display always on.
Began usage at 06:30 with 100% battery and now at 20:00 have only 56% left. So it's average of ~3.3% battery per hour.
Again, received many notifications from various sources, fiddled with Watchmaker and installed the updated companion app,

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