Always on Display - On or Off - Samsung Gear S3

Only had the Frontier several days and using the Minimal Watch Face (dark)
I haven't experimented with many watch faces.
I would like it to be on all the time, but I have no experience to know whether to set the watch to be AOD.
I would hate to ruin the battery in a short space of time e.g. 6 months.
Also, I assumed as soon as I saw some of the watch faces, that I could delete them, but doesn't seem to be the case. Pity because some of them I will never use.

AOD doesn't affect battery too much. I have everything maxed out, full brightness, AOD, location, GPS, wifi, sound, vibration, everything. And I get 2 days use, from 6am-5pm

I'm using my Gear S3 just with Bluetooth and GPS on an can use it for mor then 72 hours!

AOD has many factors that can and will affect battery life. I have found that I can make 3 solid days with AOD off and just make 2 days with AOD on. The type of watch face you use can change that.

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Tizen Ambient Mode - NOT GOOD - Android Wear is Exactly the same just dimmer

I just got the Gear S2 - I've been using the LG Urbane and wanted to try Tizen.
One thing I've noticed is that on the Urbane and Android wear - the Ambient mode is the exact same as the active mode - just a bit dimmer but looks the exact same at all times.
I can't seem to find very many faces through Tizen with anything other that two black and white hands in ambient mode or just a basic look.
Is there an issue with Tizen not being able to offer this ?
I want my watch face to be seen by other people looking down at my watch when I don't know they're looking.
I don't want the face to be shown just when I lift my arm - I want the look always.
This "always on" option will also make developers created faces then seen by others with the same watch in passing and they'll ask what that watch face is leading to potentially more purchases and downloads. -- grass roots marketing
I love the watch so far, but the lack of ambient mode looking just like active mode is about a deal breaker for me.
Any thoughts or suggestions here, before I return it and stick with my Urbane and having the watch face I choose always on ?
I've only been able to find about six (6) faces that have a similar look to the active mode when in ambient and it's still no where near as good as Android Wear's look with the Ambient mode option.
The Tizen ambient is only similar -
With all the face options to choose from when we decide on one for the day as watch owners - we want the face to be there always not just when I lift my wrist - I want to show off the look I decided to use.
This bother anyone else ?
jabakerman said:
I just got the Gear S2 - I've been using the LG Urbane and wanted to try Tizen.
One thing I've noticed is that on the Urbane and Android wear - the Ambient mode is the exact same as the active mode - just a bit dimmer but looks the exact same at all times.
I can't seem to find very many faces through Tizen with anything other that two black and white hands in ambient mode or just a basic look.
Is there an issue with Tizen not being able to offer this ?
I want my watch face to be seen by other people looking down at my watch when I don't know they're looking.
I don't want the face to be shown just when I lift my arm - I want the look always.
This "always on" option will also make developers created faces then seen by others with the same watch in passing and they'll ask what that watch face is leading to potentially more purchases and downloads. -- grass roots marketing
I love the watch so far, but the lack of ambient mode looking just like active mode is about a deal breaker for me.
Any thoughts or suggestions here, before I return it and stick with my Urbane and having the watch face I choose always on ?
I've only been able to find about six (6) faces that have a similar look to the active mode when in ambient and it's still no where near as good as Android Wear's look with the Ambient mode option.
The Tizen ambient is only similar -
With all the face options to choose from when we decide on one for the day as watch owners - we want the face to be there always not just when I lift my wrist - I want to show off the look I decided to use.
This bother anyone else ?
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There are several reasons for this. 1) Battery life. By reducing colors and the number of pixels that are activitated, it allows the watch to go several days without charge. 2) OLED burn in. OLED displays will "burn in" if pixels activated too long.
However, there are several options one is the "Alive" app on the Gear store. Install this and your watch never goes into ambient mode. Free app. Problem solved. However, you will have shorter battery life. YMMV.
Rob
jabakerman said:
One thing I've noticed is that on the Urbane and Android wear - the Ambient mode is the exact same as the active mode - just a bit dimmer but looks the exact same at all times.
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Not true, maybe an exception on your face, very very very.... few face has same dim mode than active mode on Wear. Worse, for example on LG-R Dim mode brightness has no setup and most time dim mode is brighter than active mode, so totally grazy
OP, check this thread for Gear S2 watchfaces that have more than the basic ambient mode...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63804290
jabakerman said:
I just got the Gear S2 - I've been using the LG Urbane and wanted to try Tizen.
One thing I've noticed is that on the Urbane and Android wear - the Ambient mode is the exact same as the active mode - just a bit dimmer but looks the exact same at all times.
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This is incorrect.
Ambient mode on both platforms is a part of the watchface design -- it has as much, or as little detail as the designer put in it.
There are plenty of Wear faces that reduce to simple 2 B/W hands in ambient. Try the Bang & Olufsen watch face, for example.
For the time you would spend sorting through the Samsung store to find a good ambient face, you could create your own with Gear Watch Designer. That way you could include pretty much whatever you want in the ambient face.
Ambient mode seems to use a lot of battery. Mine drops from 100% to about 30% in 16 hours on ambient mode, making nightly recharging a must. And, I'm not a power user.
Zelmo88 said:
Ambient mode seems to use a lot of battery. Mine drops from 100% to about 30% in 16 hours on ambient mode, making nightly recharging a must. And, I'm not a power user.
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I have a very intricate ambient mode and I have it always on, and I get 2 days on a full charge. I only have bluetooth on. I do not have WiFi on. If you have WiFi on, or if you have a 3G, that's what's eating your battery.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
I have a very intricate ambient mode and I have it always on, and I get 2 days on a full charge. I only have bluetooth on. I do not have WiFi on. If you have WiFi on, or if you have a 3G, that's what's eating your battery.
Rob
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I'm only using bluetooth, no WiFi, and I don't have a 3G version.

Factors influencing watch face power consumption?

Hello, what factors influent watch face power consumption?
I am aware about AMOLED pixels issue. What about app. functionality?
For example: stock chronograph face is touch enabled - when touched is switches on the chronograph.
The same about faces with widgets on them.
Does app. functionality increase power consumption?
Do disabled widgets consume power?
I presume that functionality power consumption is minor regarding pixels value.
Of course, I presume that stock faces are well debugged and power savvy.
Am I correct?
Thanks!
Until a couple of days ago I had a daily battery consumption of about 20% a day (couple of calls, some email, 5/6 Whatsapp notifications, no AOD), which means a battery duration of almost 5 days. I used a pretty simple watchface (called "Submariner") with seconds hand and date.
Two days ago I switched to the Samsung Outdoor Watchface (free on the market) dark version, showing steps, day of the week and month, barometer weather and battery percentage all at the same time; I made a short trip for work (about 350Km) where I got some weather update notification and some mail; at 15:00 the batter was almost empty (i started at 5:00 AM with full charge) and the phone shut off. So with the new watchface the battery apparently last half a day. Watch was connected BT with the phone, no GPS, no audio, n AOD.
I will make another attempt in the weekend but I suppose that choosing the right watchface could mean a lot.
S
sandrinopi said:
Until a couple of days ago I had a daily battery consumption of about 20% a day (couple of calls, some email, 5/6 Whatsapp notifications, no AOD), which means a battery duration of almost 5 days. I used a pretty simple watchface (called "Submariner") with seconds hand and date.
Two days ago I switched to the Samsung Outdoor Watchface (free on the market) dark version, showing steps, day of the week and month, barometer weather and battery percentage all at the same time; I made a short trip for work (about 350Km) where I got some weather update notification and some mail; at 15:00 the batter was almost empty (i started at 5:00 AM with full charge) and the phone shut off. So with the new watchface the battery apparently last half a day. Watch was connected BT with the phone, no GPS, no audio, n AOD.
I will make another attempt in the weekend but I suppose that choosing the right watchface could mean a lot.
S
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Oh no doubt. Even light color faces use more and the more going on the more power it uses. It sounds like that new face has a lot going on. I've looked at that face and you maybe unsold it to me. ☺

watchmaker battery drain

I have big concerns of consumption of battery with this application
Am I the only one?
You have can be trick?
Thank you
Some watch faces are too bright or consume too much battery in their always-on state. Try a watch face that has a dimmer always-on state, or take your favourite watch faces, and change their always-on state to have higher opacity.
I made a dial I same, quite black
I am going to try a reset of the watch, seen that nobody confirms me the same problem
I use this app(watchmaker) and consumption with always on display is approximately 25/30 % per day.
Wifi is switched off , Bluetooth used when needed.
krca5 said:
I use this app(watchmaker) and consumption with always on display is approximately 25/30 % per day.
Wifi is switched off , Bluetooth used when needed.
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Either some functionality on your watch is disabled or something is wrong here. No way, watchmaker can beat stock watchface. I loose 45-55 percent a day with stock gear dashboard watchface. AOD, wake-up gesture, shealth features and bluetooth on. Wifi auto. NFC, bt connection notifications off. Using GPS occasionally. Without AOD i can easily get 3 and a half day. I've never saw anyone claim to can get more than 2 days with AOD on on the forum before, so this is really confusing.
You can believe or not, but for me the battery consumption with watchmaker is lower than with stock Watchface. it is also true that some Watchface consume a little more, but we are talking about up to 10% more per day, i start to use Watch at 10am and remove Watch at 23pm,all' shealt notification on,wifi off,gps off, Bluetooth when needed,AOD always on,screen brightness 7. When use stock Watchface i lose 45/55% of battery per day.
I think I may have worked out what is going wrong, perhaps one of the developers can confirm,
under ‘my watches’ I have a number of other whatchfaces that I have downloaded, these aren’t selected on my watch but are there as an option, where as the chosen one only has basic functions, the others all have fancy meters, data sourcing apps - after deleting these from my phone and checking they are not available for selection on my watch the battery life seems to be normal, I wonder if the other watch faces are in some way working in the background and therefore draining the power even though I am not actually viewing them
It is Wi-fi connection what drains LOT of power. Be sure it is turned off when not in use to keep your power as long as possible.

Do the various watch faces consume about the same battery life?

Hi,
I have several watch faces installed on my S3.
I prefer to have it always on but I see that this causes a serious battery drain, especially with the latest OS.
Assuming about the same usage mode every day (eg lifting the hand to check the time X times per day, the same number of notifications received (FB, whatsapp, emails...), the same amount of fiddling with the watch etc), AND the screen being turned on only by the hand lifting gesture.
Is there any accepted metric that measures how much battery the watch face should eat up per hour?
For example yesterday I used one of the faces and about 3 hours after full charge - I was down by about 10%.
Today I'm using a different face and it's down "only" by 4% (which seems great compared to previous days).
Most of the faces I use are rather dark, only the HHMM is (in some of them) in a bright color.
No fancy dials turning about on the watch face.
GPS is off, I don't use the watch for sports tracking expect steps/distance/floors.
For example, today I'm using the Digital Sport Red Automatic from AP Watches - Andrea Pascolo.
Thanks.
It's now 19:15 and my battery level has dropped 25% only (11 hours), after receiving many notifications and quite a lot of fiddling with the watch setting throughout the day.
This is with the Digital Sport Red Automatic from AP Watches - Andrea Pascolo.
So in my opinion this is a very good watch face regarding battery life (not to mention that in my opinion it's both beautiful and useful for my needs).
In the next days I'll check the other faces I've purchased, regarding battery usage.
By the way, I have location=ON.
Another update.
Using the same face today but with GPS=OFF and display always on.
Began usage at 06:30 with 100% battery and now at 20:00 have only 56% left. So it's average of ~3.3% battery per hour.
Again, received many notifications from various sources, fiddled with Watchmaker and installed the updated companion app,

Can you use your default watch face with automatic brightness in Always On (AOD) mode

I want to switch from my Moto 360 because when I use StayLit Wear to set the display to remain indefinitely on, the battery drains completely in three hours. I want a smartwatch with a display lit constantly (with automatic brightness, so it's bright enough to be visible in daylight and dim enough to not attract attention in darkly lit environments) that can still last me 24 hours, running the default watch face.
I use a Bluetooth headset connected to my phone to attend to calls all day long and I want the watch primarily to show me the time, alert me to calls and look good while doing it. I'll try to use the health stuff and the sleep tracking and the notifications, but they're not terribly important. Can I get that from the Samsung Gear S3 Frontier (with the latest battery draining update installed)?
Upon doing some Googling, I found that the watch face will dim after a specific timeout even with AOD enabled, and that I need to install either Flaunt or I Am Alive to get it to truly remain always on. So I guess my question is, with the display set to always on via either of these apps, can I expect it to last me a full day of use?
Yes the AOD dims but is still readable and depending on the watchface still quite bright. The watch has auto low light and auto outside modes to cover the extremes. With the wrist gestures, the watch brightens to your set brightness. I don't think you would be disappointed. The battery still gives me a full day 05.15 - 22.00 with 25-30% left with Tizen 3.0.0.2

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