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Hello I would like the community's opinion regarding upgrading my current phone. I am currently Using LG G2. But I plan to upgrade my phone.
My primary candidates are HTC One M8, OnePlus One
The things I want:
- Good battery Life
- Primary Usage are Internet, and Watching Video
- Must be Reliable in terms of both Software and Specially Hardware***
I do intend to keep the phone I buy this time and keep it for a very long time like about 1.5 years or 2.
Please suggest me any other phone if you think it may suit my need
Also share your experiences about the issues faced by OnePlus One users.
Thank You
in_core said:
Hello I would like the community's opinion regarding upgrading my current phone. I am currently Using LG G2. But I plan to upgrade my phone.
My primary candidates are HTC One M8, OnePlus One
The things I want:
- Good battery Life
- Primary Usage are Internet, and Watching Video
- Must be Reliable in terms of both Software and Specially Hardware***
I do intend to keep the phone I buy this time and keep it for a very long time like about 1.5 years or 2.
Please suggest me any other phone if you think it may suit my need
Also share your experiences about the issues faced by OnePlus One users.
Thank You
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none of these , get a oppo find 7a :good: it has longer battery good display , super fast charging and of course removable battery
fahadsul3man said:
none of these , get a oppo find 7a :good: it has longer battery good display , super fast charging and of course removable battery
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But I dont think this product is available in my country.
+ I would like the manufacturer to provide updates in the future
Not sure if this manufacturer would do so.
in_core said:
But I dont think this product is available in my country.
+ I would like the manufacturer to provide updates in the future
Not sure if this manufacturer would do so.
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htc and oneplus will also stop updating their respective phones when they are bit old as well just like any other manufacturer anyhoo up to you
fahadsul3man said:
none of these , get a oppo find 7a :good: it has longer battery good display , super fast charging and of course removable battery
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Really?
Are you being serious? The Find 7a and OnePlus One are very similar. Lets clear this up,
Longer Battery: Oppo Find 7a has a 2800 mAh battery; whereas, a OnePlus One has 3100 mAh. OnePlus One is also using CM11S which is pretty much AOSP and is very battery friendly. Many reviewers praise the OPO for its amazing battery life. Battery life is not a problem, you can have the worst wakelocks possible and end the day with 30%+ battery remaining
Good display: Both of the phones have very identical displays. Same ppi, same resolution, same Gorilla glass.
http://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_find_7a-6215.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-6327.php
Find 7a
DISPLAY Type IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.5 inches (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
- ColorOS UI
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OnePlus One
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.5 inches (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
- CyanogenMod 11S
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Super Charging: OPO has it too, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753134
Removable Battery: Lets be honest, even if I did have it... I wouldn't be changing the battery much and its a 3100 mAh anyways.
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Price point, OnePlus One is a lot cheaper of a phone. Has massive ROM and Kernel development whereas the Find 7a (or any other phone) does not with the exception of the Nexus series.
OnePlus One is a steal ~$364 with a invite for 64GB of storage. Cyanogen Inc is committed to updating this phone and commits are being pushed to the device on a daily basis, its their flagship device. Updates, big screen, reliability from Cyanogen Inc will not be a problem, they're hiring big names in the tech industry (from Microsoft, MediaTek, HTC, Facebook) and are a force to be reckoned with as of late with massive fundings.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...e-presidents-from-htc-mediatek-and-microsoft/
http://recode.net/2014/08/21/cyanogen-beefs-up-its-executive-ranks-with-hires-from-ea-facebook/
http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogen-vp-hires-396878/
http://www.geekwire.com/2014/tech-moves-blucora/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...o-with-cyanogen-inc-and-7-million-in-funding/
Get this phone. You won't regret it and it will for surely get Android L <90 days of release as promised. https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/regarding-android-l.49957/
It takes longer as CM features need to be ported over to Android L. Other phones will have to wait for custom rom features as well.
Battery:
24% http://i.imgur.com/83VQN4W.png
...2 hours later.
http://i.imgur.com/RccfKni.png
http://i.imgur.com/xbV5bkd.png
zephiK said:
Really?
Are you being serious? The Find 7a and OnePlus One are very similar. Lets clear this up,
Longer Battery: Oppo Find 7a has a 2800 mAh battery; whereas, a OnePlus One has 3100 mAh. OnePlus One is also using CM11S which is pretty much AOSP and is very battery friendly. Many reviewers praise the OPO for its amazing battery life. Battery life is not a problem, you can have the worst wakelocks possible and end the day with 30%+ battery remaining
Good display: Both of the phones have very identical displays. Same ppi, same resolution, same Gorilla glass.
http://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_find_7a-6215.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-6327.php
Super Charging: OPO has it too, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753134
Removable Battery: Lets be honest, even if I did have it... I wouldn't be changing the battery much and its a 3100 mAh anyways.
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Price point, OnePlus One is a lot cheaper of a phone. Has massive ROM and Kernel development whereas the Find 7a (or any other phone) does not with the exception of the Nexus series.
OnePlus One is a steal ~$364 with a invite for 64GB of storage. Cyanogen Inc is committed to updating this phone and commits are being pushed to the device on a daily basis, its their flagship device. Updates, big screen, reliability from Cyanogen Inc will not be a problem, they're hiring big names in the tech industry (from Microsoft, MediaTek, HTC, Facebook) and are a force to be reckoned with as of late with massive fundings.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...e-presidents-from-htc-mediatek-and-microsoft/
http://recode.net/2014/08/21/cyanogen-beefs-up-its-executive-ranks-with-hires-from-ea-facebook/
http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogen-vp-hires-396878/
http://www.geekwire.com/2014/tech-moves-blucora/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...o-with-cyanogen-inc-and-7-million-in-funding/
Get this phone. You won't regret it and it will for surely get Android L <90 days of release as promised. https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/regarding-android-l.49957/
It takes longer as CM features need to be ported over to Android L. Other phones will have to wait for custom rom features as well.
Battery:
24% http://i.imgur.com/83VQN4W.png
...2 hours later.
http://i.imgur.com/RccfKni.png
http://i.imgur.com/xbV5bkd.png
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Thanks for your opinion and also an energetic one.
Can you share if you happen to notice any problems/issue with the phone, or common issues faced by this phone?
okay if you get lucky you will get a great oneplusone. but like my people they have problems.
maybe some have the problem but don't mind
but on the french side of the oneplusforum, one guy made a poll and lets say that 6/20 people have touchscreen/hardware problems.
so or you gonna have a great phone or you gonna have to email etc oneplus to get e new full working phone.
and still the oneplus one is a great phone. but its hard to love. i wanted it. but now i don't, i don't want to take the chance to have a sh!t phone that makes me mad 'again!' it's a cool nice phone, but the quality control is not always the same. one phone works other one is sh!t, so if you have the money to buy a other phone do it.
if i don't try a other 300€/400 phone there alot out there. xiaomi, oppo, zte.
all new cpu s801 and full hd from 5" - 5.5" if one day oneplus will get there sh!t totether and make the phone 100% working. with maybe 1or 2 /20 that have problems would help
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Thanks for your opinion and also an energetic one.
Can you share if you happen to notice any problems/issue with the phone, or common issues faced by this phone?
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I don't have any problems. If I did, its fixed or workarounded. Some of the problems I encounter,
- Touch screen bugs: Fixed via kernel update. It is eliminated fully in the next OTA. Not a problem of Oneplus or cyanogen, its a fault of Synaptics, the company who does the touch screen.
- Yellow on the bottom.... I use screen filter to workaround it, although there has been reports that the newest revisions don't have this problem anymore and it is rarely visible.
... Overall the phone is great and is a great budget phone with the top of the line specs.
reggiexp said:
okay if you get lucky you will get a great oneplusone. but like my people they have problems.
maybe some have the problem but don't mind
but on the french side of the oneplusforum, one guy made a poll and lets say that 6/20 people have touchscreen/hardware problems.
so or you gonna have a great phone or you gonna have to email etc oneplus to get e new full working phone.
and still the oneplus one is a great phone. but its hard to love. i wanted it. but now i don't, i don't want to take the chance to have a sh!t phone that makes me mad 'again!' it's a cool nice phone, but the quality control is not always the same. one phone works other one is sh!t, so if you have the money to buy a other phone do it.
if i don't try a other 300€/400 phone there alot out there. xiaomi, oppo, zte.
all new cpu s801 and full hd from 5" - 5.5" if one day oneplus will get there sh!t totether and make the phone 100% working. with maybe 1or 2 /20 that have problems would help
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this is my concern also. it is why i am strongly considering getting the note 4. the 3 and 2 series have been exceptional.
However, the upgrade from 3 to 4 is negligible. Hence why im looking at the opo its these comments im reading here about its quality control which is making me hesitant. I hope we both enjoy our new phones but if you are debating then i would recommend you consider the note 4.
3vo3d said:
this is my concern also. it is why i am strongly considering getting the note 4. the 3 and 2 series have been exceptional.
However, the upgrade from 3 to 4 is negligible. Hence why im looking at the opo its these comments im reading here about its quality control which is making me hesitant. I hope we both enjoy our new phones but if you are debating then i would recommend you consider the note 4.
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The thing is I has Touch Sensor issues with my LG G2, and spend a hell lot to change the whole display set. Now i want to get rid of it.
At this moment I am not sure if its worthy to spend $575 for HTC M8 or $450 for One Plus One 64GB. Those are the price at which these phone are sold in my country, so no arguments there.
I happen to use HTC M7 for 3 days which i borrowed from my friend and I loved its experience. But M7 has Camera Pink Tint issues and also USB connection port issues.
So you get that I am in a really confused situation. I dont want to spend so much money then worry about the reliability of the phone.
PS. Warranties are not available in my country other than Nokia and Samsung as other phones dont officially distribute in my country. And Samsung sold from the official dealers a really expensive. Like S5 costs around $700 with warranty
@zephiK, love reading your posts bro! You definitely know what you talking about and always post links to support your statements. Keep it up bro
-Tunasty
3vo3d said:
this is my concern also. it is why i am strongly considering getting the note 4. the 3 and 2 series have been exceptional.
However, the upgrade from 3 to 4 is negligible. Hence why im looking at the opo its these comments im reading here about its quality control which is making me hesitant. I hope we both enjoy our new phones but if you are debating then i would recommend you consider the note 4.
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i aint spending 300+ € on a phone that's my thing more just would make it nan. that's much.
so at the end i always come back at the oneplus, or last week found the xiaomi mi3. other phone are not aviable for a good price in europe. and i don't want to pay extra for import tax ect. cause that will be like 50-80euro more for a phone that i bought for 300€ and i aint paying more than what i decided that i want to pay
so my choos i limited...
zephiK said:
Really?
Are you being serious? The Find 7a and OnePlus One are very similar. Lets clear this up,
Longer Battery: Oppo Find 7a has a 2800 mAh battery; whereas, a OnePlus One has 3100 mAh. OnePlus One is also using CM11S which is pretty much AOSP and is very battery friendly. Many reviewers praise the OPO for its amazing battery life. Battery life is not a problem, you can have the worst wakelocks possible and end the day with 30%+ battery remaining
Good display: Both of the phones have very identical displays. Same ppi, same resolution, same Gorilla glass.
http://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_find_7a-6215.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-6327.php
Super Charging: OPO has it too, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753134
Removable Battery: Lets be honest, even if I did have it... I wouldn't be changing the battery much and its a 3100 mAh anyways.
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Price point, OnePlus One is a lot cheaper of a phone. Has massive ROM and Kernel development whereas the Find 7a (or any other phone) does not with the exception of the Nexus series.
OnePlus One is a steal ~$364 with a invite for 64GB of storage. Cyanogen Inc is committed to updating this phone and commits are being pushed to the device on a daily basis, its their flagship device. Updates, big screen, reliability from Cyanogen Inc will not be a problem, they're hiring big names in the tech industry (from Microsoft, MediaTek, HTC, Facebook) and are a force to be reckoned with as of late with massive fundings.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...e-presidents-from-htc-mediatek-and-microsoft/
http://recode.net/2014/08/21/cyanogen-beefs-up-its-executive-ranks-with-hires-from-ea-facebook/
http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogen-vp-hires-396878/
http://www.geekwire.com/2014/tech-moves-blucora/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...o-with-cyanogen-inc-and-7-million-in-funding/
Get this phone. You won't regret it and it will for surely get Android L <90 days of release as promised. https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/regarding-android-l.49957/
It takes longer as CM features need to be ported over to Android L. Other phones will have to wait for custom rom features as well.
Battery:
24% http://i.imgur.com/83VQN4W.png
...2 hours later.
http://i.imgur.com/RccfKni.png
http://i.imgur.com/xbV5bkd.png
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its only cheaper in selective market not everywhere , sigh smh people and their lack of research , and removable storage along with removable battery are LOT better than non removable one but thats subjective of course
reggiexp said:
okay if you get lucky you will get a great oneplusone. but like my people they have problems.
maybe some have the problem but don't mind
but on the french side of the oneplusforum, one guy made a poll and lets say that 6/20 people have touchscreen/hardware problems.
so or you gonna have a great phone or you gonna have to email etc oneplus to get e new full working phone.
and still the oneplus one is a great phone. but its hard to love. i wanted it. but now i don't, i don't want to take the chance to have a sh!t phone that makes me mad 'again!' it's a cool nice phone, but the quality control is not always the same. one phone works other one is sh!t, so if you have the money to buy a other phone do it.
if i don't try a other 300€/400 phone there alot out there. xiaomi, oppo, zte.
all new cpu s801 and full hd from 5" - 5.5" if one day oneplus will get there sh!t totether and make the phone 100% working. with maybe 1or 2 /20 that have problems would help
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If you're lucky you might get a great OnePlus One? Come on, that's bs. The truth is, if you're really unlucky you might get a bad one.
All these posts claiming that there are such high numbers of faulty devices are just wrong. You can run all the polls you like but it isn't going to give you an accurate figure at all. Not even close. All you're doing is measuring the percentage of the amount of devices from people who could be bothered taking a poll, or who stumbled upon the poll in a small forum.
I know a whole bunch of people who own this device, we're talking dozens, and only one of them has had any issues with it. The fact is that the small number of people who do have a problem are always the ones who shout the loudest. You don't see anybody creating threads and causing commotion when their device is behaving like it should, do you? No, you don't.
Just because there are some faulty devices out there in the world, and people are making a completely half-assed attempt at measuring the percentage of faulty devices (people with zero actual data gathering experience or knowledge), does not mean there's a real problem with the One. All the loud-mouths with their whining only create an illusion that there's a problem, and all the gullible people soak it up like a sponge.
@in_core, buy the phone, you won't regret it.
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fahadsul3man said:
its only cheaper in selective market not everywhere , sigh smh people and their lack of research , and removable storage along with removable battery are LOT better than non removable one but thats subjective of course
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Did you seriously just have a go at one of the most helpful and knowledgeable guys in this forum for a tiny flaw in an otherwise very insightful post? Dude.
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fahadsul3man said:
its only cheaper in selective market not everywhere , sigh smh people and their lack of research , and removable storage along with removable battery are LOT better than non removable one but thats subjective of course
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That's not a problem with oneplus. They're a start up company and for their first year, they're doing quite a good job. Sure it's not perfect with the invite system but that's due to their production.
The same could be said about the nexus devices, it's only cheap in selective markets. It's not just the oneplus one.
I'm not saying that removable battery and remove storage is not needed. Sure it's nice to have but let's take a step back.
Removable storage: you're given 64GB of internal storage. The other edition is 16GB which isn't really produced as oneplus is producing 64gb due to a popular demand. $299 vs $349. That's a difference of $50. Take a look at other companies and see how they would charge for a extra internal storage for 16 to 64. Oneplus could have cheap out and gave us 32gb for 349 and 64gb for $449. Anyways to get to the point, the phone has 64gb of internal storage, storage is not a problem what so ever. Would it be nice to have a sdcard? Sure but it's not a deal breaker.
Oneplus is already selling the phone cheap as it is, they're barely making a profit and you want them to put more features after they gave you 64gb? Come on now.
Removable battery: technically any phone has a removable battery if you just take it out. Oneplus had swapstyle covers that shows you that. The back of the phone isn't the easiest thing to take off but it's possible to do. From a design perspective, it'd be pretty difficult to have the sand stone black and back design that the oneplus already have to include a removable back that is easy.
The same idea of removable storage can be applied to the battery. Would it be nice to have? Yes. But if it doesn't have it, it's not a deal breaker as we're already given 64gb of internal storage and 3100 mah battery. Oneplus one has the best battery life on the phone market right now. At its given price point of $349 the oneplus one is a steal if you received a invite. Given some effort, you can get a invite within hours on various social networks / forums.
if you are on a budget I will say the OnePlus is the best bang for your buck. Honestly like others have mentioned you will only hear about the bad and not enough good stories but I will be honest with you. I am nowhere disappointed in my purchase of this phone and hopefully neither will your if you purchase it.
Alot of things are overrated in my opinion. No need to remove a battery if the one you havve last you all day. No need to have extra storage if you have a good data plan and use the cloud. I am coming from a 16gb N4 that I placed all my music in Google Music and my apps in dropbox, drive and other various cloud storage.
Dont fill your phone up with crap and believe me this phone with camera, storage and best battery in the game will make you a happy individual
Just curious out of the people who have this phone. After ordering how long did it take to ship?
I think it depends which of the phones you can get your hands on. After my Nexus 5 has been replaced 3 times under warranty I am starting to care more and more about that kind of support as well.
timmaaa said:
If you're lucky you might get a great OnePlus One? Come on, that's bs. The truth is, if you're really unlucky you might get a bad one.
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i know you are right. but it's that i have ben talking to a developer. and he didnt recomande me the phone. (guess he had a bad one) and asked him again 1month later how its going he sayed don' buy u aint gonna love it....
that the thing. i know he knows what he says but yeah, xiaomi mi3 is a bit boring. i mean 5" no lte. and only miui or a AOSP rom. noting more. cause no kernel sources yet...
and the oneplus is almost the same size as the xiaomi (xiaomi mi3 is as big as a xperia z1. just a bit smaller)
so yeah. the thing is. okay maybe i will get lucky but i dont like to know that maybe im gonna get a phone with touchscreen isues.. i hate that. thats going to make me smash the phone.... i already had problems with touchscreen and i almost trew the phone on the ground.
so if i get one i want to be sure i will have a touchscreeen that works. and doesn't make me mad!
reggiexp said:
i know you are right. but it's that i have ben talking to a developer. and he didnt recomande me the phone. (guess he had a bad one) and asked him again 1month later how its going he sayed don' buy u aint gonna love it....
that the thing. i know he knows what he says but yeah, xiaomi mi3 is a bit boring. i mean 5" no lte. and only miui or a AOSP rom. noting more. cause no kernel sources yet...
and the oneplus is almost the same size as the xiaomi (xiaomi mi3 is as big as a xperia z1. just a bit smaller)
so yeah. the thing is. okay maybe i will get lucky but i dont like to know that maybe im gonna get a phone with touchscreen isues.. i hate that. thats going to make me smash the phone.... i already had problems with touchscreen and i almost trew the phone on the ground.
so if i get one i want to be sure i will have a touchscreeen that works. and doesn't make me mad!
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Don't tell people not to buy the phone off the back of one guy's bad experience. If you do some research you'll find that touchscreen issues have been solved with a ts driver update (for those very few people that had problems).
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I've kept my eye on the G pro 2 for a while (was about to get the original O G pro, but waited for this to come out). So I'm well aware of the specs, features, reviews, etc. But what I want to know is a real world user's opinion of the device.
Is the phone pretty decent? Any frustrations or quirks to know before trying to get one?
Key questions:
*How is the Mic/voice quality? (sending and receiving during a voice call)
*How is the battery life(I know it depends on usage and habits of the user, but just overall, how would you rate it personally, compared to other current/comparable Android phones)?
*Is it relatively stable and responsive?
*What bothers you about this phone?
*Would you buy it again if you were in the market for a new phone right now?(tells me that you like the phone and are overall happy with it)
I plan on getting a F350(a bit confused with the S/L/etc. acronym endings, can any one shed light?) I want to use it on at&t's network. On paper, and seeing professional reviews, the G pro 2 seems like my phone (1080p 5.9" screen, expandable memory via microsdhc, user replaceable battery, decent camera, etc.) But I want to know, if in practice, the phone is stable/frustration free(relatively speaking), decent real world battery life (if it's competent/comparable at least.. ), hoping that this is not one of those, "you have to root it and install a custom rom in order for this phone to be bearable"- type thing.
My other considerable is the Sony Xperia Z2 (prices are right, even though the screen is smaller and the battery isn't "replaceable"). I didn't want the Samsung Galaxy series due to the smaller screens and bloatware they put on there(note's a great series, but simlar.. bloatware, plus really expensive).
Thanks! I appreciate any input!
these are my questions too..
I came from a Samsung S3 (running CM).
first impressions were: Nice clean looks and lines, it's big (but it's not unwieldy). my wife has a Note 3 and it's about the same. the curve along the back sides makes it more comfortable to hold. Obviously, it's a heavier phone due to size, so your hand might get tired if you're one to use your phone lying down or something.
Screen is fantastic. I have no problems with colour issues with the screen and it's bright enough for me, even outdoors.
Battery life is good. standby can last more than a day. in usage, i was a bit busy yesterday and didn't use it too much, but from 0700 to 2300, i had 63% before i plugged it in. on a more typical day, I'd probably have around 40%. mainly a mixture of whatsapp, a few blogs, games and some TV show watching at lunch.
Camera is decent and acceptable auto focus speed. not a lot of bloatware.
I'm running 10e firmware due to bugs in 10f and waiting for lollipop. 10e is stable. not had problems with it.
problems: it's not widely available and the user base is small. so don't expect any fancy mods/firmwares or anything like that. as such, there's not a lot of accessories for it either outside of LG's own stuff.
My friend has the Z2 (not looked, but isn't the Z3 pricing nearly the same now?), and his camera is better and the battery life is longer due to Sony's Stamina software. display is about the same. If you want a big, stock phone, the LG is great. if you want to play around and like to customise your phone, then i'd go with the Sony.
Thanks for your input Ray-Lee .
I'm on the fence between the two phones, I like the bigger screen on the G pro 2, I haven't held one yet in person, but I don't think I"ll be bothered by it at all. Only thing that really entices me for the Z2 are the current prices for it right now.. for relatively similar specs, smaller screen, but better camera compensates. Honestly, I want the device to work well out of the box.. this is xda and I do play with custom firmwares and roms, but that's more of a result than a mission for me these days.. as in, if the unit runs better/faster/more stable compared to stock(or.. if stock is so horrendous that it must be rooted and flashed to be "decent").
ssnova said:
Thanks for your input Ray-Lee .
I'm on the fence between the two phones, I like the bigger screen on the G pro 2, I haven't held one yet in person, but I don't think I"ll be bothered by it at all. Only thing that really entices me for the Z2 are the current prices for it right now.. for relatively similar specs, smaller screen, but better camera compensates. Honestly, I want the device to work well out of the box.. this is xda and I do play with custom firmwares and roms, but that's more of a result than a mission for me these days.. as in, if the unit runs better/faster/more stable compared to stock(or.. if stock is so horrendous that it must be rooted and flashed to be "decent").
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Ive been using this phone pretty much since it came out (D838 rooted stock) and the stock Performance is fantastic if im honest it really doesn't need a custom rom unless you want to "mod" alot of things and even then as long as your careful theres still alot you can do with just root, i love this phone so much and its modified enough for my liking without a rom, its fine right out of the box and if you can live without a custom rom (which is really doesnt need that much) i think you'll be as happy as i am with this phone on stock with or without root.
But yes if you do like to flash and mess about alot go with the z2/note3 as there is more options there but this is still a brillant phone.
bjscott55 said:
Ive been using this phone pretty much since it came out (D838 rooted stock) and the stock Performance is fantastic if im honest it really doesn't need a custom rom unless you want to "mod" alot of things and even then as long as your careful theres still alot you can do with just root, i love this phone so much and its modified enough for my liking without a rom, its fine right out of the box and if you can live without a custom rom (which is really doesnt need that much) i think you'll be as happy as i am with this phone on stock with or without root.
But yes if you do like to flash and mess about alot go with the z2/note3 as there is more options there but this is still a brillant phone.
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Thanks a lot for the assurance. I'm still bouncing around phone options, I guess it just comes down to price (best bang for buck, with expandable memory at least). I'm still considering the G pro 2, but I saw how the GS note 3 has come down a lot in price.
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Thanks a lot for the assurance. I'm still bouncing around phone options, I guess it just comes down to price (best bang for buck, with expandable memory at least). I'm still considering the G pro 2, but I saw how the GS note 3 has come down a lot in price.
Thanks again!
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I've had both and granted you can mess around with roms and stuff but for pure joy in use i much prefer the g pro 2 its a really really good phone and for the low price you really cant beat it in my opinion unless this phone gets a good recovery and cm11 ill never bother with costom roms ect. For me its perfect on stock the peformence is amazing, to date (about 6 months of owning this phone) the battery still amazes and im yet to see any lag ever!! The ui is amazing, for a phone out of the box you cant beat it if you like music it outputs brillantly im just in love so maybe im a little one sided but i hope whatever you do you will be happy! Let me know!
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I've had both and granted you can mess around with roms and stuff but for pure joy in use i much prefer the g pro 2 its a really really good phone and for the low price you really cant beat it in my opinion unless this phone gets a good recovery and cm11 ill never bother with costom roms ect. For me its perfect on stock the peformence is amazing, to date (about 6 months of owning this phone) the battery still amazes and im yet to see any lag ever!! The ui is amazing, for a phone out of the box you cant beat it if you like music it outputs brillantly im just in love so maybe im a little one sided but i hope whatever you do you will be happy! Let me know!
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I only can agree with that!
I did get mine last week and i am very happy with it! Came from Galaxy Note 2 wich i liked very much but i dont trust Super Amoled Display technology since noone grants you that it will operate more than 3 years with heavy use. I chose this device because it has similar dimensions as the Note 2, stronger hardware, bigger 1080p reliable IPS LCD screen and fabulous 3200 mAh battery.
It's a must have for phablet lovers that want to have a good performing phone with large screen.
After just a few days of use this is my opinion. On software side is everything ok, just the usual Kit Kat problem that bugs lots of users out here, tha lack of having permissions for apps to write to sd card. That was the only thing that bothered me, but thats on Google side. This phone is truly amazing!
Hope that helps the peple to choose the best device for their specific needs. I found mine definitely.
Thank you for the input bhun and derbyshire! I really like the phone and want to get it, but for me the G pro 2 shipped from Asia to the US (I need the F350 model for LTE compatibility), it's about $600, I'm going to wait out just a little longer, it's a bit out of my budget (was hoping to score a phone for less than $450.. Sony Z2 and ZU did fit that for me, but not anymore either, haha).
I'm glad to hear that it's a great phone though(G pro 2), hopefully the prices will come down a bit for the F350 model and I can obtain one soon. Thanks again to all who have contributed!
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I only can agree with that!
I did get mine last week and i am very happy with it! Came from Galaxy Note 2 wich i liked very much but i dont trust Super Amoled Display technology since noone grants you that it will operate more than 3 years with heavy use. I chose this device because it has similar dimensions as the Note 2, stronger hardware, bigger 1080p reliable IPS LCD screen and fabulous 3200 mAh battery.
It's a must have for phablet lovers that want to have a good performing phone with large screen.
After just a few days of use this is my opinion. On software side is everything ok, just the usual Kit Kat problem that bugs lots of users out here, tha lack of having permissions for apps to write to sd card. That was the only thing that bothered me, but thats on Google side. This phone is truly amazing!
Hope that helps the peple to choose the best device for their specific needs. I found mine definitely.
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The things that bother me about this phone are the poor wifi signal, I can be within a meter of my router and it still fluctuates between 3 and 4 bars. Any less than 4 bars wifi signal seems to have a noticeable impact on browsing performance. I also find the mobile data hotspot a pain, every so often the connection would hang and you would have to turn data off and back on again to get it to work. It seemed to do that every hour or so. Also if the phone gets even minutely warm, the brightness level will restrict itself to between 80% and 90%. I have had 3 LG G Pro 2 and they have all been the same. I also notice some flickering at times, especially when there is a white background on a webpage. I am almost fed up of mine and looking at selling it soon. It does have the potential to be a good phone, and I think all the faults I mentioned could be fixed with a decent firmware update.
I agree with you on wifi reception, its been the worst amongst all the phones i have owned
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It's a good buy switching. Switched from GS5 to this
So I am getting sick of the battery life of this device and charging twice a day just to get by... the QC helps but it isn't always a viable option for someone who is on the road/travels a lot. I am probably going to go back to my Moto G 2015 for the time being as I could get a full days use most of the time on a single charge and just selling my MXPE.
But now the question comes up as what to replace it with... Moto G 5th gen, Blu Pure XR, ZTE Axon 7 Mini, or ???
My requirements are simple, or so I think...
1) 4+ hours SOT, preferably 5+, in mixed signal environment of WiFi/LTE/3G and sometimes without the best signal strength (for reference, I currently get about 2.5 hours on MXPE)
2) 5.2"-5.7" screen with 1080p minimum resolution
3) Stock Android, "near" stock, or simple UI (no TouchWiz, EMUI, ZenUI, or other bloated UI) that allows easy use of replacement launcher
4) 64GB internal storage or 32GB internal+microSD
5) 3GB or more of RAM
6) Full AT&T network compatibility (GSM 850/1900 and LTE Band 2/4/5/12/17 and optionally 29/30)
7) Nougat or Marshmallow with a Nougat upgrade "guaranteed"
8) 3.5mm headphone jack
9) Dual band WiFi - 2.4 & 5Ghz
10) $300USD or less
Would be nice, but not essential...
1) Unlockable bootloader (implies root/custom recovery/ROM development community)
2) Front facing speakers
3) NFC
4) USB 3.0
Absolute no no's are Samsung, Asus, or Huawei/Honor devices.
What else fits these requirements that I am not considering?
I believe the one phone that comes to mind that would fit most of your requirements is the Axon. I took a break from the MXPE (when it flew off my roof and died a horrible death in a rain storm) and had the Axon 7 (normal size) for about a month. You will get NEAR 4 hours of SoT, a qhd screen, 5.5 inches, relatively light for metal body. Unlockable bootloader and decent dev for it, last I checked. Things that bothered me/ pissed me off were that DTTW was laggy and slow, the actual cell service seemed to be really bad, possibly because of the full metal body phone, and the biggest annoyance - no backlit capacitive buttons, so you were left sort of blind in the dark trying to hit buttons. There is also no way through the build.prop to enable the on-screen buttons to bypass the issue at night, last I checked.
LG V20 could be an option too since it has a bootloader unlock now, 3.5-4.5 hours of SoT. I think it has a bottom bezel speaker though, which is a little weird, and as always the LG software has complaints. The dev is good enough to get around that though.
I'm in the same boat as you though. I've been looking pretty hard to find a new phone and the V20 is the only one I am really considering right now.
Get the OnePlus 3T it meets all your needs I get easily 6 to 7 HR sot
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Get the OnePlus 3T it meets all your needs I get easily 6 to 7 HR sot
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Would love to... tell me where I can get a new OP3T for under $300... That one is a hard stop requirement.
@xgerryx Same for LG V20 and Axon 7 (which never goes on sale, although the Mini does often), the $300 price point is a big deal
This phone has been a little disappointing. It's good, but definitely not great. It's a night and day difference from the Galaxy S3 I was using, but I wish I had held out a little longer for the SD 820 phones instead of buying in 2015.
It sounds like you've already got a pretty inclusive list for phones that are sold in the US and meet your requirements.
I just checked swappa, and if you're willing to go used, the OnePlus 3 is starting to get down towards the price point you're looking for. It has the same size battery as the MXP, and between the more efficient SoC than this godawful 808/810 generation and an FHD AMOLED I'd think you should get better screen on time out of it. It's a OnePlus so it has loads of good development, so you'll have all kinds of kernel/rom/tweaking available to really squeeze every erg out of it.
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This phone has been a little disappointing. It's good, but definitely not great. It's a night and day difference from the Galaxy S3 I was using, but I wish I had held out a little longer for the SD 820 phones instead of buying in 2015.
It sounds like you've already got a pretty inclusive list for phones that are sold in the US and meet your requirements.
I just checked swappa, and if you're willing to go used, the OnePlus 3 is starting to get down towards the price point you're looking for. It has the same size battery as the MXP, and between the more efficient SoC than this godawful 808/810 generation and an FHD AMOLED I'd think you should get better screen on time out of it. It's a OnePlus so it has loads of good development, so you'll have all kinds of kernel/rom/tweaking available to really squeeze every erg out of it.
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That actually could be an option... I will investigate further.
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Would love to... tell me where I can get a new OP3T for under $300... That one is a hard stop requirement.
@xgerryx Same for LG V20 and Axon 7 (which never goes on sale, although the Mini does often), the $300 price point is a big deal
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If you happen to be SUPER interested in the V20, I have seen some go for like 310-320 on Swappa in good to mint condition. You gotta hound the seller though and keep track of it all damn day for when the price drops. Not an awesome experience but I'm waiting for the same thing myself.
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If you happen to be SUPER interested in the V20, I have seen some go for like 310-320 on Swappa in good to mint condition. You gotta hound the seller though and keep track of it all damn day for when the price drops. Not an awesome experience but I'm waiting for the same thing myself.
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I'm not really interested... TBH, my experience with non-Nexus LG Android devices has been... well... lets just say less then wonderful.
Although I would have to say that the LG enV from years ago probably ranks up there as my favorite phone of all time, back when you could actually get DAYS of usage out of a cell phone on a single charge. I remember I would charge it twice a week. lol
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I'm not really interested... TBH, my experience with non-Nexus LG Android devices has been... well... lets just say less then wonderful.
Although I would have to say that the LG enV from years ago probably ranks up there as my favorite phone of all time, back when you could actually get DAYS of usage out of a cell phone on a single charge. I remember I would charge it twice a week. lol
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Yea I agree. After my terrible experience with the buggy LG G4, I'm very skeptical about going back again. At the same time I am running out of companies to try out! Haha. Gotta circle back eventually, especially on Verizon.
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Yea I agree. After my terrible experience with the buggy LG G4, I'm very skeptical about going back again. At the same time I am running out of companies to try out! Haha. Gotta circle back eventually, especially on Verizon.
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NEVER AGAIN!!! I refuse to drop $140 plus taxes and fees (realistically $160) for the service level I get now for $72 per month. Plus the limitations on devices, I would have to buy at least one new phone and/or go under contract. Nope, not happening. (Can you tell I have a grudge against Verizon, lol)
I would look around swappa for a OnePlus 3 or 3t it's worth it no bugs lag free and monthly updates it's already on nougat 7.1.1 and the beta builds they offer are great as well and development is great lots of greats ROMs and kernels and unlocking bootloader will not void warranty
TBH...I think you will have a hard time meeting all of your requirements right now. The market looks pretty dismal which is very unfortunate. I personally will hold out a little longer. I'm really looking hard at what Nokia/HMD are coming up with and hoping their roadmap for US devices includes a mid range device soon. So far their line up seems decent and if they are true to their word about expedient updates for Android, and they will sell devices with unlockable bootloaders at decent prices, I'll be sold.
moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow
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moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow
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Like @acejavelin stated, Samsung is not an option, and I agree with him. Yes they have great hardware for the most part, but a less powerful processor running vanilla, our near vanilla Android will run just as well considering the lack of heavy handed UX. I will admit the phone looks great hardware and looks wise, but I personally don't like the look and feel of Samsung TW.
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moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow
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Sammie's are to bloated... Every Samsung devices we have ever had has been problematic... Hope you enjoy yours though but I would never spend that kind of money on a phone.
I have a moto g5 plus as well, its pretty good. It's fast and smooth. Screen and camera are good too, but obviously not as good as the X style.
Yes mxpe battery sucks. I have to charge 2-3 times a day and am not even a heavy user. I know its more than your actual budget but better wait, save a bit more and probably the price will drop also and go for a OP 3T.
i know your problem man.. but why don't you wait for a nougat update?? why not? maybe they might fix up the battery drain issue!
there are barely very less phones which have dual front facing speakers.. market has got very saturated.. all look for flagship but they just don't think that having a good speakers is also a part of flagship project!
as per my personal opinion... this phone is just the best phone ive ever used (till 2015) but in upcoming era you will see more and more features
i will recommend you to wait and not hurry up to get a phone...
if you need a pure stock surely get nexus but just wait for new nexus phone.. maybe they might consider it as a flagship and the value might be cheap??
anyways if you're just asking for all the requirements my opinion (AXON 7) not just only for dual front facing speakers but also for the processor(sd 820),storage(64gb,6gb ram) expandable ovbio (256gb)
plot twist: has hybrid sim XD
but im legit that it'll be upgraded to android 'O'
but it cost around $350
think man.. public reviews are also good
it meets all the requirements but is as costly as mxpe
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i know your problem man.. but why don't you wait for a nougat update?? why not? maybe they might fix up the battery drain issue!
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Nougat can't "fix" our battery issue... Radio and display panel are hardware issues and that's where 75% of all battery drain is. It isn't even issues, it's just how much power they use normally. The SD808's radios are terribly inefficient, and the display panel uses more power than some small towns. If you think Nougat is going to noticably improve active use time, your kidding yourself.
To be honest, I might just pull my old Nexus 5 out if the drawer and switch to it... The battery life can't be much worse.
The sound aspect is less important. FF speakers are nice, but as long as I can hear a YouTube video in an average room and turn the ringer up enough u don't care.
I bought the MXPE as an upgrade to my G 2015 and it was on sale for under $250, and for the most part it is, I just didn't realize how bad the battery was, it is easily half of my G.
I got Axon 7 after X and can't be happier. I've had the A7 since August. Has the front speakers i wanted, nice beautiful Samsung screen. Battery is definitely better then X. Software was buggy at the beginning but they have improved it a lot. Axon 7 has been getting a lot of updates, doesn't mean it'll continue, we were the 1st ones to receive 7.0 with the exception of Google devices, and we are the only ones so far (afaik) to receive 7.1.1 with also the exception of Google devices.
It has its flaws but i love the phone. For the money you can't beat it. It's on sale now on newegg for $330.
I have had this device since launch in January 2019. I just wanted to see how everyone is finding it long term really.
Personally I have no complaints. It is so good. In pretty much every aspect. Almost the perfect device I would say. Battery life is still a champ almost 2 years later. Performance is top notch. No slowdowns at all. Ram management and multitasking is very good (as long as you turn off the auto app launch management that is). Screen is awesome. Best LCD I have used as far as I can recall.
Android 10 updated. Design is fantastic. It was the OG pinch hole all screen display I remember, which was the reason I picked it up initially at launch.
I am so surprised how well it has held up. I have tried multiple devices since. Huawei mate 20x and pixel 4A, my old iPhone 7 and galaxy s8. All have only reinforced how good the V20 is. I always go back to it.
I just got the pixel 4A this week and using that back and forth with the v20 now. If I had to get rid of one it would be the pixel. But fortunately I don't have to, so will keep both.
Just wanted to give my thoughts on very long term use really. I have used the v20 every single day bar a week or two over the last 22 months. It is so good.
Such a shame this Huawei / Honor trade ban and how it is affecting Google services on their newer devices. Huawei make some incredible devices. Thankfully the v20 is not affected.
Hey man,
I've got the view20 in march/April of 2019 and it has been amazing. I really enjoy the camera and night mode, which has prevented my from buying any new phone. Also the new features that came with magic UI 3 (swipe bottom left to right for app switching) has made it more current. Agreed the punch hole means the phone still looks on top of trend. Unfortunately I don't enjoy the size and weight of the phone as I prefer smaller phones and the 12 mini is tempting but I genuinely picked the view 20 for the long lasting LCD screen.
All around great phone!
Yep it is fantastic device. Cannot overstate in anyway how good it is.
I agree about the size, though it does not bother me as much. It is a big as I would probably go for big phones I've realised.
I'm also leaning more towards smaller devices nowadays. Funny you mention the 12 mini. I've also been looking at it but not too sure on the battery life. Seems a small cell which is the norm for apple. Besides I am enjoying the Pixel 4A quite a bit at the moment. It is a lot of fun using both a small and big phone. You really see the differences and appreciate both for different reasons. Especially when both perform extremely well in almost all areas.
It's the end of an era.... Well maybe not quite as dramatic! I've made the very hard decision to let my V20 go. Decided to go full on with the smaller form factor going forward. iPhone 12 mini and pixel 4a! I can only hope they stand the test of time somewhere close to the v20. They both have a tough act to follow for sure. This had been easily the best all around smartphone I've ever used. Cannot fault it at all. It's just my compulsive need to change smartphones which has lead me to move on. If anyone is considering a v20 going forward, take it from someone who has used the life out of this thing for almost two years, it is a champ! In every department. Stands the test of time unlike any other phone I've used before. Battery and performance still incredible now.
Bought April 2019, in the Middle East. And used in the UK and globally (in the old days when we had flying machines)
To date, I cannot fault the hardware. The 8 GB Ram and 256 storage are more than enough for my needs. Battery lasts for up to 2+day, or 36 hours when I've done an all night shift. Continues to perform well well and fantastic feature set like app twinning and privatr6area. No performance issues and updates are timely
I have reviewed several alternatives primarily keeping an eye on the Samsung Note line. I cannot see any reason to justify the cost of the moving to £1000+ phone ant see any difference.
The critical factor will be suport for Google Apps. If/ when that is lost, then time to move on compatability is critical.
There are rumours Huawei will spin of Honer, which would be great, but not sure the timescales will be favorable to the survival of my phone.
Annoying, as the primary reason for.th Huawei sanctions are commercial, (give US companies a lead. In 5g). But. The knock oon might be a 3rd global player in the mobile OS space. That won't be good for Google, security or quality of apps available to all parties.
Just to let you know, Android 11 support has been added with Magic UI 4.0
So late 2020 seems to be a good year!
Did you get the update already?
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Did you get the update already?
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No but I can see it in firmware finder, depends on what region you are in for me it's still not approved
Good to see you guys still enjoying this fantastic device. I'm back again with another Huawei...lol. got the P30. Very similar to the v20 I think. Main difference is just the display is oled. I do really like Huawei / Honor devices. I heard Honor is being sold off. Don't know if that's a good thing or not yet. But for sure the V20 is the business.
Hey what happened with the 12 mini? I've been thinking of getting bit but worried about battery life. The honor is just too big for me but does everything right, so reluctant to change
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Hey what happened with the 12 mini? I've been thinking of getting bit but worried about battery life. The honor is just too big for me but does everything right, so reluctant to change
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I still have the 12 mini. It is my main device. Battery for me is very very good. No exaggeration. I don't play any graphically intense games though so bear that in mind.
I easily make it through the day and then some. Over 4 hours screen on time comfortably. I don't know how they are doing it with a 2200 cell really. I also turn off 5G. So only 4G in use. I don't know again how much of a difference that makes. But as long as you are not a big gamer into graphically intense games, I think you will be very happy and pleasantly surprised with the mini's battery.
I also been using the mate 30 as secondary device. Again, very very nice.
Do I miss the V20? In all honesty sometimes yes. It is such a great phone. Just about the only thing I would have added would have been an IP rating perhaps. And that's just nitpicking... Everything else fantastic. But wanted a smaller one handed device for now.
Im looking for a cheap high performance Xiaomi phone with a long update path (aka in Xiaomis eyes). Im looking for one with long battery life, a in-display fingerprint scanner, amazing performance for gaming and just navigating everyday tasks, preferably one with fast charging, OLED screen or better, 120Hz, and one with easy rooting like how Xiaomis have. I have my eyes on the MI 12 (people say it overheats), MI 12X and the MI 11. I want a phone that will last me a long time. Any recommendations? doesn't have to be a Xiaomi but if it has a easy rooting process like Xiaomi I might consider it.
I am using xiaomi 12 now for the past 3 days. My experiece has been absolutely perfect. Ive never had trouble with overheating, not even when i played some games and while charging. Phone becomes warm but it is waaaaaay much less than my iPhone used to have. I didnt do much research but for me on miui 13 and android 13 the experience with xiaomi 12 have beed perfect. Battery is literally undestructable and it charges in 20 - 30 minutes. Maybe the overheating was fixed in the updates i dont know. But for me and my experience with the device now, it is way better than my iphone was. Good luck!
first of all, the battery life of this phone with 5G is on is a joke, with wifi I get double SOT,
in my opinion don't buy mi12, this SoC is very bad and don't listen to other guy, all of them(mi12) overheat unless you live in North Pole
mi11 is better choice if you don't mind the size, 12x nice too maybe less future proof
mi11 has more roms too,
only plus for mi12 is the compact size,
to conclude, if you want a phone for many years don't buy mi12 for sure
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first of all, the battery life of this phone with 5G is on is a joke, with wifi I get double SOT,
in my opinion don't buy mi12, this SoC is very bad and don't listen to other guy, all of them(mi12) overheat unless you live in North Pole
mi11 is better choice if you don't mind the size, 12x nice too maybe less future proof
mi11 has more roms too,
only plus for mi12 is the compact size,
to conclude, if you want a phone for many years don't buy mi12 for sure
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It's your opinion and I respect it.
Wifi consumes more battery by downloading and streaming than data and comparing a phone that is two years old with a recent phone makes no sense.
well he asked for mi11, it's a nice phone imo, we should tell the truth about this phone though, battery life is not good and it is getting hot, also not big community so far and no roms, me personally I wouldn't buy again, coming from mi9, this was a big disappointment but everything is subjective, I hope this helps
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well he asked for mi11, it's a nice phone imo, we should tell the truth about this phone though, battery life is not good and it is getting hot, also not big community so far and no roms, me personally I wouldn't buy again, coming from mi9, this was a big disappointment but everything is subjective, I hope this helps
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That is to say that a cheap phone with high performance with an important autonomy and which lasts a long time, it does not exist.
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That is to say that a cheap phone with high performance with an important autonomy and which lasts a long time, it does not exist.
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Yea Ik Ik but I'm just looking for a relatively cheap one that has good performance and can last me a few years.
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Yea Ik Ik but I'm just looking for a relatively cheap one that has good performance and can last me a few years.
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At what maximum price?
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At what maximum price?
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300 on eBay.
Not looking for top of the line or anything just something that lasts a while I don't like Samsungs or iPhones and I had a Poco f3 a few months ago.
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300 on eBay.
Not looking for top of the line or anything just something that lasts a while I don't like Samsungs or iPhones and I had a Poco f3 a few months ago.
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Check here:
https://www.kimovil.com/
and if you want custom roms avoid Media Teck socs.