Hello guys
I already used the search and looked around on the internet using google and ecosia... but it didn't help me... everytime i am looking for the answer to my question: "HTC says that the touch pro has got 288 MB of ram but there are only displayed 193 MB and my free memory is about 65 MB (used 128MB)" i only find some roms that say that they have a lower pagepool... but that does not help me in finding a solution to my problem that i can't access the complete ram...
is there any workaround for this issue? a classmate found a rom for his touch hd2 which solved the same problem as mine but on his hd 2... now i ask you for a solution on the touch pro.. please help me ^^
i think you didnt think about the fact that the OS needs ram too ... but you can try ROMs without manila that spare ram; which ROM do you actually have?
I'm using the latest energy rom, its all fast and very smooth animations.. really great :]
but no i think you didn't understand me... the hardware ram is 288MB according to HTC. The memory manager shows me that there is in total only 193 MB available. 128 MB of these 193 MB are used... the rest is unsused memory... now what is about the rest of the 288 MB ?
the osram usage is included in the 128MB if you trust the task manager ^^
so what is my phones problem? are there maybe some limitations that can be solved with some registry changes? on windows vor PCs you can disable some parts of the ram that they are not used... can this be a possible problem on my phone? when I was using the O2 branded original rom there were 212 MB usable 80MB used and 132MB free... i really can't imagine why ._.
ok, i see, but what about the memory that is needed to store the files that will be used restore the files after you do a hardreset?
Do you know nue storage manager? Try it and look, how much drives you have installed in your memory... which you dont have in normal use
do you know the difference between ram and rom? operating systems are always installed on roms and the ram looses its data during a hard reset.
audiocore said:
the hardware ram is 288MB according to HTC. The memory manager shows me that there is in total only 193 MB available. 128 MB of these 193 MB are used... the rest is unsused memory... now what is about the rest of the 288 MB ?
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Yes, hardware RAM is 288 MB. In your case (with Energy ROM) 95 MB of RAM is used by the OS itself, so you have only 193 MB RAM available. You should know that the rest (in your case 193 MB) depends on the ROM cooker. Energy ROMs are known for not being RAM friendly, actually NRGZ28 stated once that he doesn't care for free RAM. That is the reason you have only 65 MB of free RAM. For example I'm using CRACING ROM and I have about 110 MB of free RAM after reboot, if Sense 2.1 is enabled. If I disable it, I have about 130 MB left. When I was using offical HTC ROM, I had more than 150 MB of RAM - that is with all today plugins (TF3D for example) turned off. Of course, if I disable HTC dialer (that has a video dialer and other options) and switch to ordinary WM dialer, I can free even more RAM. Pagepool is also very important - it is a special area of memory reserved for loading apps into from ROM. I think that the default pagepool is for Raphael 12 MB (that means 12 MB less RAM), but most of the cooks sets pagepool to 20 MB or more - that means 20+ MB of RAM used for faster loading of apps. That is why your phone is so fast with Energy ROM - it has a veeery large pagepool, but you have very little free RAM because of that.
So, to make things simpler, most of the RAM is used by the OS, GPU, TF3D/Sense/Titanium/SPB Mobile Shell/some other UI app, pagepool, dialer, other background services/processes etc. So you just have to decide what ROM to use - there are some ROMs (like yours current) that are very bad for RAM, but there are others with 120 MB+ or even 150+. You can also cook your own ROM and maybe gain 180 or more free RAM.
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Yes, hardware RAM is 288 MB. In your case (with Energy ROM) 95 MB of RAM is used by the OS itself, so you have only 193 MB RAM available. You should know that the rest (in your case 193 MB) depends on the ROM cooker. Energy ROMs are known for not being RAM friendly, actually NRGZ28 stated once that he doesn't care for free RAM. That is the reason you have only 65 MB of free RAM. For example I'm using CRACING ROM and I have about 110 MB of free RAM after reboot, if Sense 2.1 is enabled. If I disable it, I have about 130 MB left. When I was using offical HTC ROM, I had more than 150 MB of RAM - that is with all today plugins (TF3D for example) turned off. Of course, if I disable HTC dialer (that has a video dialer and other options) and switch to ordinary WM dialer, I can free even more RAM. Pagepool is also very important - it is a special area of memory reserved for loading apps into from ROM. I think that the default pagepool is for Raphael 12 MB (that means 12 MB less RAM), but most of the cooks sets pagepool to 20 MB or more - that means 20+ MB of RAM used for faster loading of apps. That is why your phone is so fast with Energy ROM - it has a veeery large pagepool, but you have very little free RAM because of that.
So, to make things simpler, most of the RAM is used by the OS, GPU, TF3D/Sense/Titanium/SPB Mobile Shell/some other UI app, pagepool, dialer, other background services/processes etc. So you just have to decide what ROM to use - there are some ROMs (like yours current) that are very bad for RAM, but there are others with 120 MB+ or even 150+. You can also cook your own ROM and maybe gain 180 or more free RAM.
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Great comment! Don't forget that the Radio will also use up some memory and especially with the HD2 there seems to be a Radio (original t-mobile) which uses almost 12 MB less than others.
However, what is your problem? You are concerned about battery life (keeping all that RAM happy and addressed) or you have a specific application which wont run. I didn't check the latest NRG ROMs but he ran pagepools up to 26 MB. It's one of the first things I check with a tool called pagepool changer. I adjust mine to 16 meg which is/was supposed to be the sweet spot for the Raphael/TouchPro and never had any problems, speed or memory issues.
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However, what is your problem? You are concerned about battery life (keeping all that RAM happy and addressed) or you have a specific application which wont run.
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If the question is adressed to me, and not OP, I need at least 90-100 MB of free RAM because I heavily multitask. That is the main reason for being WinMo user. Besides, ROMs with low RAM are usually battery hungry.
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If the question is adressed to me, and not OP, I need at least 90-100 MB of free RAM because I heavily multitask. That is the main reason for being WinMo user. Besides, ROMs with low RAM are usually battery hungry.
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My answer was addressed to both. I also multitask though mainly Word, Excel and chat and as long as I don't open iGO all is running well (and you don't multitask while driving anyway ).
Let me check how much free RAM I have. ROM is in my sig, modified the PP from 26 MB (NRG's default) to 18 MB, Manila 2.5 with added Program Tab and Max Manila 2.7SE fullscreen on top. As you see I run the xperia X2 task manager because I too like to know what's left in RAM.
The screenshot is after ~ 4 days after the last boot "active sync'd"
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I also multitask though mainly Word, Excel and chat and as long as I don't open iGO all is running well (and you don't multitask while driving anyway ).
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Well, I do multitask while driving. For example, iGo is running along with browser. When I need informations about traffic on main intersections (from the video cameras in my city), I open the link for that particular intersection via browser and then Streaming Media plays that clip. In the meantime iGo is running in the background of course. Lot of RAM is required for these tasks. And what if someone calls me - the dialer is also RAM hungry... Besides, often I use GPS whilst walking. This is just an example - like I said, I'm a heavy multitasker.
humm okaaay... but on my older eten glofiish x650 with only 64MB of ram I had about 24MB of free ram though windows mobile 6.5 (only tried it out ) so windows mobile can be 40MB small... and although it seems to run very well...
humm what do you mean with radio? the music radio or something like gsm radio module for windows mobile? (sry 4 my comprehension issues but i'm from germany ^^)
talking about the radio rom, which can be updated / changed like the OS and make it possible to get better phone reception or gps or ...
audiocore said:
humm okaaay... but on my older eten glofiish x650 with only 64MB of ram I had about 24MB of free ram though windows mobile 6.5 (only tried it out ) so windows mobile can be 40MB small... and although it seems to run very well...
humm what do you mean with radio? the music radio or something like gsm radio module for windows mobile? (sry 4 my comprehension issues but i'm from germany ^^)
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I really think that you should read XDA Wiki, as much as humanly possible, in order to understand basic things about WinMo. Cheers, mate.
Hi, on Google and other sites its written that the nexus s has 512 mbytes ram, but in all the apps and places where I see the amount of availiable, used and overall ram its written that I have only 346 mbytes, does anyone know why? And even if I kill all the apps using task killer I have only 160 mbytes availiable.
This has been mentioned quite a few times... The rest of that 512MB is used for graphics.
Hello,
I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy SII and I have a question about ram usage.
When I boot up my Galaxy and open task manager it says I have about 200 - 210 ram in use but after a while I see it uses 260- 290 mb ram.I kill all apps and clean ram with task manager ( and task killer pro ) but I never get back to the 200 mb. It's not bothering me too much but I would like to know why this happens and how to possibly fix this
Thanks in advance Cédric
Your system apps (which would be very dangerous if you killed them) are using up the ram. You could possibly fix this by checking out this thread and doing what is says: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111145.
Hello Epson,
after booting, I get nearly the same values, like you: 297 MB used / 837 MB free / 0 active applications
With regards, Michael
After reboot my phone I have more than a gigabyte free RAM. But few days after that with used some apps I have only 600-700 MB RAM free and I don't know what is using it.
I mean after I stop using some app i force stop it from the app manager because I don't want it to stay loaded in the memory but don't know why the memory doesn't release.
Is Android cache some RAM without my knowledge?
I upload a screenshoot from L Speed.
http://s33.postimg.org/8fds56t9r/Screenshot_2016_06_02_16_45_13.png
My smartphone: Lenovo K900
ROM: VIBEROM_V1.0_1403_7_ST_K900
Your OS using Your RAM. It's not normal for android to leave lot of RAM free. Thats not how android works. He load most used app so You can call them quick. You can google about that and read some article about how android menage RAM. I have 3GB RAM, in use is about 2 or 2.2! If i have 2GB of RAM than system used will use around 1 or 1.5gb. Every model have different RAM MENAGING! You don't need free RAM, if You start some app which need more RAM, system will immediately free enough RAM. All process have priorities, low priorities will be killed first to free up memory!
So don't wory about RAM in android OS! ?
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Ok thanks than.
A certain amount of RAM will automatically be taken up by the GPU, which is why your 1 gig will be 832mb or thereabouts when you look at how much you have through CPU-Z or a similar app.
in system there are alot of apps that runs in background ie.. your messages ,dialer.. we can't stop that apps.... but yeh you can use greenify or similar to force stop your downloaded apps so your phone runs smooth.. also disable some system apps you can't use . because now days new androids come with alot of apps and we only use some apps
hello i am programming a small app for android and i want to test it but bluestacks has not enough ram to run it stable as it is now its not perfect at all but still i would need to allocate around 8gb thanks for all the nice answers
Be aware of fact that an Android app only can make use of 512 KB RAM at maximum and this only if app's developer requested this.
You may use BS Tweaker 6 to configure all BS instances' maximum amount of RAM.
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Windows OS and all running Bluestacks instances share hardware components such as RAM, means if Windows OS itself allocates 2 GB RAM on a 16 GB RAM computer, each of the n Bluestacks instances can only make use of 14 / n GB RAM.
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Be aware of fact that an Android app only can make use of 512 KB RAM at maximum and this only if app's developer requested this.
You may use BS Tweaker 6 to configure all BS instances' maximum amount of RAM.
BTW:
Windows OS and all running Bluestacks instances share hardware components such as RAM, means if Windows OS itself allocates 2 GB RAM on a 16 GB RAM computer, each of the n Bluestacks instances can only make use of 14 / n GB RAM.
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i mainly want to have more ram so i can test it while it is not perfect its raw and needs lots of ressources that the end result will have that requirement is clear but i still cant really figure out how i can change the ram ammount in bs tweaker 6
but thx for the help