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I can get both for around the same price range, and I actually like the notch, so that does not bother me. If I do go ahead and buy the s9 plus it will be the US variant meaning no custom ROMs or nothing while the oneplus 6 will definitely have all of that and more. But the s9 plus will probably have a better camera as it does every year. What do you guys think? In a dilemma of sorts right now....
hmmm its a close one, the one plus 5t seemed majorly less laggy than my note 8, we all know samsung fimware can be laggy at times.... benchmarks were just about equal even though my 5t had 2gb more ram... you cant beat the samsung screen though 5t was very close. i suspect the same with the 6. of course camera on the OP may still be behind the sammy's.
the extra space is a moot point as the newest SD cards almost rival internal write speeds these days ....
i loved my OP but i ultimately changed to sammy as my netwrk in the UK would not support wifi calling and VOLTE on it even though it was ecxlusively sold throigh them (O2 take heed and stop smoking crack!!). Im on three now ad they prob will not support VOLTE and Wifi Calling either on the one OP... so only choice i have is the S9 Plus with Three firmware...
As a OP 5 owner, I'm waiting to see how good the camera is on the OP6, if it sucks I'm not bothering with OnePlus this year. My Nexus 5X had better picture quality than my OP5 (sadly).
I went from the N6 to the OP5T. I couldn't be happier with. I'm not a big camera buff so the 5T camera is better in certain lighting than the N6.
I'd get the OP6
I'd pick the 6. If you don't mind the camera quality, go for the OP6, it's cheaper and will have a better development support.
A difficult one, an open, development friendly phone vs features
I would probably choose the S9 Plus for memory expansion and carrier support (VoLTE and VoWIFI) ...
I think if price is not an issue than a GS9 or LG G7 should serve well. However, for most people, oneplus becomes relevant due to it's price. And if one is hard pressed for cash then Oneplus should do well.
Samsung? NEVER!
Have been using S7 Edge for more than 18 months now and very satisfied with it. Even though the ram is only 4 GB where OP was giving 6 or 8 GB Ram, S7 edge has always stood its head above the OP 5 or 3T or 3. I also use the OP3 as my secondary phone and just love the dash charge.
One of the main reasons that I bought the S7 edge was its IP 67 certification. Hence with the new OP6 with IP certification and the notch, I am inclined to buy it. Will give my update after using both.
S9+ 1M out of 1M time
how come?
install Gcam man! op camera APP sucks, it's nearly top notch with Gcam with HDR+ working
Oneplus 6 as touchwiz or whatever they are calling it now sucks.
S9+ is an overpriced meme piece of crap just like iPhones have been since the 4 basically.
I have a pixel XL3 from Verizon, I'm wondering if anybody has traded their xl 3 And if they have what are their thoughts.
I had been using the pixel 3xl and the S10 plus and just got my 7 pro 256gb 12 ram today and I love it, only thing I miss is the wifi calling on ATT, but I do have VoLTE, pictures are not as nice as the pixel 3 XL, but they look pretty good to me. So I'm happy with my purchase.
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I had been using the pixel 3xl and the S10 plus and just got my 7 pro 256gb 12 ram today and I love it, only thing I miss is the wifi calling on ATT, but I do have VoLTE, pictures are not as nice as the pixel 3 XL, but they look pretty good to me. So I'm happy with my purchase.
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They'll give me $430 as a trade-in for my pixel XL3 I thought about getting the 8 gig. Do you really think it's worth the trade in? What are the pros? Can you give me a little bit more information of why you think it's a better trade-in?
I know Google gives the quickest updates for 3 years and I really like that but the ram management blows
I traded my pixel 2 xl for the op7 pro if that matters I skipped the pixel 3 xl because it didnt feel much different and i hated that notch and the big chins.
Me Me Me! I actually still use my P3XL as my work phone (yes, I carry two phones). My thoughts
I LOVE BIG SCREENS, so I wanted the awesome large no notch display
I perfer the OP7P in every aspect, don't regret the switch at all.....except for two things:
1. Being able to screen calls.....man I miss that! At least I can still do it on my work phone
2. P3XL Camera is still better. I got used to being able to take an awesome photo every single time. YOu can get good photos from the OP7P, but it takes more work. I feel the OP7P photo quality is on par with the OG Pixel.
But, the majority of what I do on my phone is, well, I'm on my phone. That screen size and no notch.......AWESOME.
Traded 3XL, Pixel had the lag issues.
1. I miss call screen
2. Camera was better on 3
No regrets, converted TMO to INT OP7P
traded my 3XL because i couldnt stand the lag issue, at times the OP7Pro has better details than my 3XL but @ indoor shots the pixel wins
Funny enough, I did. In a round about kind of way. Got a Pixel 3, traded it for an S10 then traded that for a OP7P. Very happy. If I could root the S10, I may have stuck with that. But I'm happy with this OP7P. Especially since I also have the gcam to step in when the nightscape shots don't perform well enough.
Came from pixel 3 and am much happier. The pixel 3 had bad lag issues. Yes the camera is not as good as pixel but is serviceable at this time. I am on TMobile variant so no camera updates yet for me. The size change from pixel 3 to op7 pro has been fine. I don't have large hands but the size still isn't an issue.
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Traded 3XL, Pixel had the lag issues.
1. I miss call screen
2. Camera was better on 3
No regrets, converted TMO to INT OP7P
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I'm on T-Mobile and I'm considering the switch to INT version. I still have my Pixel 3 XL and the OP7P cannot see the Pixel in camera quality. With that being said, I also have not received any of the latest updates due to me being carrier locked. After you converted, and installed the updates, did you notice a difference in the OP7P camera quality?
If you have young children, you will miss a lot of indoor and fast moving shots on the One Plus 7 Pro. I have it sitting here next to the Pixel 3 XL on 9.5.7. 12GB Nebula Blue, it's going back today. I love everything else, but the camera and lack of wireless charging are deal breakers for me at this time. I WANTED to love this phone.
Didn't trade my 3XL in, just ended up returning it to Google as I was dissatisfied within the return window.
Had issues with the bottom speaker sounding distorted at low volume.
The notch was just as ugly in person (users said you get used to it but I didn't). Turned off the notch in developer settings but that resulted in the screen size being the same as my previously owned Pixel 2 XL. Felt like I was wasting money by not taking advantage of the extra screen that is lost by hiding the notch.
Dealt with extremely poor RAM management.
Had issues with system UI lag. It almost felt like there was an extremely heavy skin on top of Android, when in reality it's stock.
Also had issues with the earpiece making a strange buzzing noise while on calls.
The device cost me nearly $1500 CAD. For a phone that price, I definitely don't expect to have as many issues as I did.
Switched to the 6T and now on the 7 Pro and I am very satisfied. The only issue I have is ghost scrolling but at least it's one issue rather than the handful I had on the 3XL.
One point I'll give to the 3XL is camera. The 7 Pro is definitely not as good but still a decent photo taker nonetheless.
I also skipped the outdated 3XL annual release. Traded my 2XL for a Note9 which I sold for the S10+. But then sold the S10+ and now my OnePlus 7Pro is my favorite overall daily driver!
Im planing to get op7 pro instead of my pixel 3 xl.
It's very important to me selfie camera quality photos and main cameras too, battery life!!! This is the main reason for me-battery life suck in pixel 3 xl! Is it worth to buy it or wait for Pixel 4?
If camera quality is important, wait for the Pixel 4. For literally everything else, OnePlus is superior - in my opinion at least.
Although oneplus camera got very good, I think it's still not on the Pixel level. So if you need the Pixel camera, wait for Pixel 4.
For everything else, OnePlus does it.
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Im planing to get op7 pro instead of my pixel 3 xl.
It's very important to me selfie camera quality photos and main cameras too, battery life!!! This is the main reason for me-battery life suck in pixel 3 xl! Is it worth to buy it or wait for Pixel 4?
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I did just that. Even though I'm happy, i would wait for Pixel 4.
Wait for the 4. Sounds like the camera is your main need. For me, everything else is better. Camera is good, just not pixel good.
Imho my op7 pro and pixel 3 take almost identical photos
Coming from the Pixel 3 XL, I was a little disappointed with the camera at first, but the rapid pace of camera updates has greatly improved the cameras. I was just growing so bored of the 3 XL. The OnePlus just has so much more to offer without rooting. For me, the main to get the Pixel was actually the quick updates and the deep Google integration, but after 3 years of using their phones they just got too boring and lagged behind in terms of hardware tech. Plus the premium price of the 3 XL was simply not worth it. I regret getting that phone.
Coming from 3XL and I only miss a little bit the camera. But OP7P camera is just fine, SD 855 is superb and the display without any kind of notch and 90 Hz refresh rate are awesome. Even with all of this going to full up throttle I'm getting 7 and a half hours of SOT. Even warp charge is a deal changer...
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Coming from the Pixel 3 XL, I was a little disappointed with the camera at first, but the rapid pace of camera updates has greatly improved the cameras. I was just growing so bored of the 3 XL. The OnePlus just has so much more to offer without rooting. For me, the main to get the Pixel was actually the quick updates and the deep Google integration, but after 3 years of using their phones they just got too boring and lagged behind in terms of hardware tech. Plus the premium price of the 3 XL was simply not worth it. I regret getting that phone.
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How is the selfie camera against the pixel quality?
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How is the selfie camera against the pixel quality?
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I don't think it is bad personally. I don't take that many selfies to begin with either, but I don't have any complaints. I think most of the times quality is subjective too when it comes to cameras on smart phones these days. Since I got the phone, camera quality has definitely improved and from I am reading on the OnePlus community and other news sites, camera quality is something OnePlus is really working on.
If you want best camera, then wait for Pixel 4 with big bezel, forehead hump, expensive, etc. If you want everything else, then get the 7Pro! ftw
I'm a big Nexus / Pixel user but I have to say the last few Google phones have been pretty crappy and battery life for me.
Nexus 6P blew for battery life
Pixel 2 XL had better life but nothing amazing
Pixel 3 XL almost seems a little worse than the 2 XL for battery life. Right now this 3XL is mediocre for battery.
And I have to say this Pixel 3 XL performance-wise is okay but it's not as smooth as I would expect from a stock pure Android phone
My 3xl.would get 5 hours SOT on a good day
My 7pro gets 6-7 hours on a BAD day
3xl LAGS like hell
If you're as sensitive as I am the 3xl will bug the living hell out of you.
Those micro stutters and lags destroy the entire user experience
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My 3xl.would get 5 hours SOT on a good day
My 7pro gets 6-7 hours on a BAD day
3xl LAGS like hell
If you're as sensitive as I am the 3xl will bug the living hell out of you.
Those micro stutters and lags destroy the entire user experience
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Same had 2 3xl's and got rid of both of them. Not a great experience with either other than photo quality. Day to day they sucked as devices.
I have both and I like everything about the 7 except the issue with auto brightness.
Cameras are great but not like the xl 3
The OnePlus 7 pro is a great phone and is better than the 3 XL. But the 3 XL isn't a bad phone
I've had the Nexus 6p and the pixel 2 XL. There are little things I miss about stock Android, but this phone is awesome. I find myself fighting the battery optimizations, but I have to assume that there is more battery optimization and or RAM Issues on the pixel 3xl. . my friend may have a faulty unit but he claims that he hasn't been getting great service and he said performance issues. That said even I am doing everything I can to hold off on the 4XL. There are still things I'm trying to understand and work around with this phone but I know it's already got twice The ram as the pixel they are going to push out.
Camera keeps getting better on this thing. Noticeable differences with updates. The selfie cam is actually pretty good and not having that hideous notch would be worth it to me
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I have to agree with others here, the ONLY thing the Pixel has over the 7 Pro is the camera quality. And that doesn't mean the 7 Pro is bad, it's stunning if you ask me! But Pixel beats it there. LITERALLY everything else about the 7 Pro blows the Pixel out of the water. Question is, how much do you use your camera? Deal breaker right there!
I can't believe people suggest waiting for pixel 4. Did you see all the gimmicky "features" Google is pushing? Pixels are overpriced and ugly. After so many misses, are they going to make the perfect phone? Don't waste your time with it. I was going between Google and OnePlus last 5 years and 7 pro is the best phone I had since Nexus 6, and it will only take better iteration of 7 pro to make me switch. If you are photographer, buy professional camera. For anything else, OnePlus cameras are great. I love zoom, macro, wide, so much fun getting great shots.
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I can't believe people suggest waiting for pixel 4. Did you see all the gimmicky "features" Google is pushing? Pixels are overpriced and ugly. After so many misses, are they going to make the perfect phone? Don't waste your time with it. I was going between Google and OnePlus last 5 years and 7 pro is the best phone I had since Nexus 6, and it will only take better iteration of 7 pro to make me switch. If you are photographer, buy professional camera. For anything else, OnePlus cameras are great. I love zoom, macro, wide, so much fun getting great shots.
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Yes. I came from a 3xl and the only thing that doesn't crush it is the camera. the specs (256gb, 12gb ram, 90hz display, sd855), the price (which wasn't even a consideration, paid full retail for my 126gb 3xl and my Ph-1) makes it a no-brainer. I considered the Pixel 4, but I'm sick of the hardware designs always being 2+ years behind. The notch on the 3xl was absurd and I did not use the wide angle selfie camera a single time except the day I got the phone to test it. I much prefer the no-notch clean look of the 7 pro. The only downside is if the Pixel camera is a 10, the 7 pro is a 7-8ish (portrait mode is lacking pretty bad in comparison especially).
Hi guys,
I'm currently using OnePlus 3T and after almost 3 years it's about time to buy new phone.
I'm not a gamer and I mainly use the phone for taking pictures, web and navigation.
Picture quality is the first thing I look for - it must be superb
I know that this is OP thread but I believe many of the users here switched from pixel to op.
what phone would you recommend? pixel 3a spec are outdated but maybe its still good enough for my usage for the next 2-3 years.
Do you think that OP can improve the software to match the quality of the pixel?
I've heard about the gcam porting but still the picture quality is not as good as taking photos with the pixel.
Or maybe should I wait to October where Google announces the pixel 4 and maybe the pixel 4a
Your help will be highly appreciated
Thanks
Go for OnePlus
OnePlus 7 is good, or 7 Pro if you don't mind curved edge. (I hate it)
Wait for the Pixel 4 XL since it is so close to being released. Tho i do love my OnePlus 7 pro. Pixels have the best camera.
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OnePlus 7 is good, or 7 Pro if you don't mind curved edge. (I hate it)
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I got use to the curved glass thanks to the Galaxy S8/9/10, just use a case and usually solves the accidental touches
pixel 4 would cost x1.5 for sure, don't want to spend too much
I really like the OP 3T so upgrading to 7 plus seems like the right choice.
What do you think about 7 vs 7 plus? the plus worth the extra penny?
Similar boat here, especially as a 3a XL can be had for £270 on EE from CeX at grade A (as new) whilst an OP7 is £500 upwards... and I do care about photo quality...
Thing is you do get much more with the OnePlus. You get IMO the better ROM - Pixel stock is nice, I've tried Pixel Experience on my old Moto G5 and it's great, but it's also quite basic. If you want things like screen recording, scrolling screenshots etc then you need third party software and have to battle with the battery saving features to stop them getting closed etc. They have a really nice balance where they add just enough genuinely useful features without turning it into bloatware. Only thing you miss out on is "Now Playing" which I must admit would be nice.
You get the in-display fingerprint reader making it way more convenient for "phone on desk" scenarios.
You get the mute slider which I've missed during my time on other phones.
You get, obviously, better and faster everything else except possibly shorter battery life (not sure, but the 3aXL is well regarded that way).
But true, there's no solid guarantee on camera quality. I know OP have a team dedicated to improving it so am having a bit of faith in it (and don't really mind installing Gcam for now if I can find a good universal install-and-forget version) but if guaranteed photo quality is of paramount importance even above all else mentioned then Pixel is the way to go. I know the dilemma very well as I've been agonising over the same thing (oh our first world problems!) but I had a 3T a couple of years ago and regret ever switching from it. It was hands down the best smartphone I've ever owned, and that past experience (plus wanting more RAM so I can e.g. keep Pokemon Go from being closed so much) is also pushing me towards the OP7, come what may. I'm not sure the camera is as 'bad' as some people make out - nerds are champions when it comes to complaining
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Wait for the Pixel 4 XL since it is so close to being released. Tho i do love my OnePlus 7 pro. Pixels have the best camera.
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I got use to the curved glass thanks to the Galaxy S8/9/10, just use a case and usually solves the accidental touches
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Similar boat here, especially as a 3a XL can be had for £270 on EE from CeX at grade A (as new) whilst an OP7 is £500 upwards... and I do care about photo quality...
Thing is you do get much more with the OnePlus. You get IMO the better ROM - Pixel stock is nice, I've tried Pixel Experience on my old Moto G5 and it's great, but it's also quite basic. If you want things like screen recording, scrolling screenshots etc then you need third party software and have to battle with the battery saving features to stop them getting closed etc. They have a really nice balance where they add just enough genuinely useful features without turning it into bloatware. Only thing you miss out on is "Now Playing" which I must admit would be nice.
You get the in-display fingerprint reader making it way more convenient for "phone on desk" scenarios.
You get the mute slider which I've missed during my time on other phones.
You get, obviously, better and faster everything else except possibly shorter battery life (not sure, but the 3aXL is well regarded that way).
But true, there's no solid guarantee on camera quality. I know OP have a team dedicated to improving it so am having a bit of faith in it (and don't really mind installing Gcam for now if I can find a good universal install-and-forget version) but if guaranteed photo quality is of paramount importance even above all else mentioned then Pixel is the way to go. I know the dilemma very well as I've been agonising over the same thing (oh our first world problems!) but I had a 3T a couple of years ago and regret ever switching from it. It was hands down the best smartphone I've ever owned, and that past experience is also pushing me towards the OP7, come what may. I'm not sure the camera is as 'bad' as some people make out - nerds are champions when it comes to complaining
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I totally agree, you're up for OP7 not OP7 plus? would like to hear your thoughts here as well
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I totally agree, you're up for OP7 not OP7 plus? would like to hear your thoughts here as well
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Yeah I can't justify paying an extra £150 for 90Hz (which I don't want to get addicted to as then other screens will look bad to me and it'll end up restricting my tech purchases), telephoto lens (with so many megapixels these days, cropping or variations of AI digital zoom should be good enough for me) or wide angle lens (this I want the most and was agonising about last night, but... 150 quid.... and I can get a clip on). Other than that it's about the same device? Slightly faster charging which I'm not bothered about as Dash Charge is super fast already.
I can actually think of a couple of advantages to the non-Pro IMO. One being that the Pro apparently has quite 'aggressive' curves to the display. Now, I have an S9 currently and to be fair I think the curving on that looks quite nice and rarely notice any distortion, but from what I've seen of the 7Pro you get a more noticeable version of the greenish tint that appears from indirect viewing angles, I think it'd possibly bug me, not sure without seeing one in person.
Another being no moving parts. I'm sure the selfie camera is very well tested, but I'd rather not.
Plus... well no smartphone these days is good for one handed use, but let's say it's slightly less bad
And despite absolutely loathing notches initially, they've had this weird effect of growing on me (just as the industry is finding ways to get rid of them, lol). The teardrop actually looks quite 'cute' in my eyes.
Plus one sort of 'political' reason: I don't want to encourage OP to keep hiking prices up, or come next year they'll just be yet another manufacturer of smartphones that cost over a grand. I want to support their mid range flagship killer business.
OnePlus 7 Pro or Pixel 4. The Pixel 3a can't even compete. It also depends on how much you'd like to spend.
Google's stock OS is lacking behind OOS. It lacks any real innovations as Google is afraid of change, evidence by the lack of dark mode in apps and OS until now (5 or 6 years after it's been available in custom ROMs).
The 3xl just can't compete with the OP 7 pro. The 7 pro is faster, another, 90hz screen faster charging, larger screen and the specs are outdated in comparison (SD855, 6/8/12 gb ram and minimum of 128gb storage). The battery in mine lasts all day with heavy use and I'm averaging 9+ hours of sot.
The pixel has a slightly better camera in low light but day time shots there is no discernable difference between the 2. It also gets updates faster but 4-6 weeks difference is nothing compared to phones like Samsung which can take 6 months or longer.
So the only reasons you should buy a 3xl is the low light camera is the most important feature you can settle for or for some reason you feel that security you're are a must the instant they are out. Or you're penny pinching and can get the 3xl cheaper.
I'm a current Pixel 2 XL owner and are due an upgrade in a couple months. After reading the Pixel 4/ 4XL reviews I'm not sure if I'll go for the P4 series. So many reviewers rave about the One Plus series phones.
I'm on Verizon, so if I were to get a One Plus which one would be lateral move or improvement over the P2 XL. I'd also love to have 5G, but if there are arguments against that I'll listen. I'm all about performance. I want a great camera but I don't need THE best one.
Thanks!
I had the pixel2xl on verizon (rooted) with Q and honestly it is the perfect phone and I did not have to upgrade! But honestly 12 gig and 256 storage!!! at 800 bucks!!!! I had to do it and even though still on Pie waiting for stable Q. I do not regret it!!!!!
I made the switch from a P2XL to a 7 Pro, and there are some things I miss about the Pixel:
1) Unlimited photo backup at original quality
2) Call screening and Now Playing
3) Camera quality
Even with these differences, though, I am glad I switched. The screen quality, speed, and price simply cannot be beat.
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I made the switch from a P2XL to a 7 Pro, and there are some things I miss about the Pixel:
1) Unlimited photo backup at original quality
2) Call screening and Now Playing
3) Camera quality
Even with these differences, though, I am glad I switched. The screen quality, speed, and price simply cannot be beat.
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I have to admit, the call screening was the big one for me.
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I made the switch from a P2XL to a 7 Pro, and there are some things I miss about the Pixel:
1) Unlimited photo backup at original quality
2) Call screening and Now Playing
3) Camera quality
Even with these differences, though, I am glad I switched. The screen quality, speed, and price simply cannot be beat.
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Not sure if you heard, the P4's don't give you the photo backup at original quality
I've owned a OnePlus 5, 5T, 6, 6T and now currently have a 7 Pro.
I'm switching to the 4 XL for the following reasons
- Better Tasker integration with the Pixel ROM vs OOS. Automating things like night light and vibrate mode are a bit more cumbersome on OxygenOS.
- Better camera. I know many will tell me to just use the Google camera port, but I'd rather not mess around with finding the correct APK and messing around with XML files to find what suits me best. I'd rather just have a phone that natively supports GCam and is more of a plug-and-play type scenario. The ports also don't allow for portrait mode pics unless it's a person.
- I'm in Canada and on Fido, and they don't support VoLTE or VoWiFi on devices they don't sell themselves. I've owned a Pixel XL, 2XL and 3XL for a short while and having VoLTE actually makes a difference in call quality. It's something I want to have again.
- Day one updates. OnePlus does push out updates pretty fast but it's nice to have the monthly patches with Google.
- Small bonus is wireless charging. I use my phone as a remote for my TV so having it lay flat on my side table and have it charge without me having to plug anything in is super convenient.
Unless I forgot something, basically everything else I'd probably stick with OnePlus. Honestly, if the camera was better and had VoLTE support, I would have kept it and lived with the rest of the 'issues'.
The 7 Pro is my first OnePlus and I haven't looked back! It's the Nexus unofficial inheritance...
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I had the pixel2xl on verizon (rooted) with Q and honestly it is the perfect phone and I did not have to upgrade! But honestly 12 gig and 256 storage!!! at 800 bucks!!!! I had to do it and even though still on Pie waiting for stable Q. I do not regret it!!!!!
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How is your LTE speed? I can get online while in concrete building downtown....
I switched from the Pixel 2xl to the OnePlus 7 pro and am still highly impressed at how big the performance gap is. I can now open an app in the morning before work and when I get off all my apps are still in memory at the same position I left them.
i switched as well from pixel 2 xl to op7 pro. The only thing i miss is the call screening/block robo calls. I have been getting at least 3 per day.