Hey everyone,
I am on RR Android Nougat 7.1.1 and I want to go back to a TouchWiz rom that may be on Marshmallow.
What is the proper procedure to do this? Is it as simple as flashing a TouchWiz rom? or do I need to do something more detailed, Like using Odin?
I have flashed roms before but I have never flashed roms that was older than the current system my phone was on.
Just wipe system, internal data, cache, basically factory wipe. You don't need to Odin anything if you are on a mm bootloader already all you have to do is do a clean flash of a mm tw rom and your Done.
just got the s5 today and thinking about rooting and going to nougat. what is pushing you to go back to TW?
zune70 said:
Just wipe system, internal data, cache, basically factory wipe. You don't need to Odin anything if you are on a mm bootloader already all you have to do is do a clean flash of a mm tw rom and your Done.
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Thanks. .. i went ahead and unrooted.
yumszvee said:
just got the s5 today and thinking about rooting and going to nougat. what is pushing you to go back to TW?
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I just like the options of TW as well as the camera on TW. I unrooted my phone but i may root it again and try on of the note 7 ports.
Use Odin. Here is why. The only reason to go back to a stock rom is for the apps that require Knox certification. For instance, you can't use Samsung Pay/Android Pay if Knox is tripped, which using a custom bootloader will do.
I have been using the newest ROM from Samsung on the S5, and can honestly say it works the best ever. Battery life is excellent and everything for the most part works great. My only miss is the lock screen flexibility, and the customizations like not turning the screen on when I plug it in, and volume rocker configurations.
Use a custom ROM if you don't have any desire to sync a gear watch (yes I know you technically can, but it has it's issues), or use any pay services. Otherwise the Stock ROM will do you well.
eatmeimadanish said:
Use a custom ROM if you don't have any desire to sync a gear watch (yes I know you technically can, but it has it's issues), or use any pay services. Otherwise the Stock ROM will do you well.
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Also, if you install the Xposed Framework, and an Xposed app, like XtouchWiz (and perhaps a few other Xposed apps), you'll end up with a rock solid ROM that has many of the cool features that were formerly only available in (often-buggy) custom ROMs.
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i'll try to be brief:
-if i root my phone (s3 mini), will samsung updates cause problems? would you suggest that i also flash the ROM (to smth custom like cyanogenMod)
-does the utility to root the phone provide a full backup of the stock firmware and data? so, if smth goes wrong i can revert back to stock (with my apps and settings. at worst, default factory settings).
-if i flash the ROM, will i lose anything? -say- will i lose proprietary stuff like touchwiz?
-do custom ROMs use the latest android version (that's one of the reasons that i wanna root & flash: to be up to date to latest android version)?
-can custom ROMs update to newer android versions automatically? or do i have to flash again and again everytime there is a new android update?
When I rooted my Galaxy S3 the status of the phone (visible in the preferences/device info) changed to "modified" and I stopped getting updates from Samsung (when checking for updates it said that I had a modified system so I wouldn't be able to get any updates). If you flash a ROM you will indeed loose everything, including Touchwiz, but if you backup your personal data then loosing Touchwiz could be a good thing, at least it was for me. I prefer Cyanogenmod.
Flashing ROMs is frequently done because you actually want to loose all that proprietary bloatware. Custom ROMs also can give you access to the latest Android version right away, wich is a lot faster than waiting months to get last year's version through Samsung. This is one of the main reasons why I decided to flash my phone. I don't use all the "features" that Samsung implements and with Cyanogenmod 10.1 my phone feels faster and has longer battery life.
As for updating, each ROM has different ways of handling it. Cyanogenmod has OTA updates which you can access through your phone "Settings/About phone" section and it will automatically flash them for you.
wtx1033 said:
i'll try to be brief:
-if i root my phone (s3 mini), will samsung updates cause problems? would you suggest that i also flash the ROM (to smth custom like cyanogenMod)
-does the utility to root the phone provide a full backup of the stock firmware and data? so, if smth goes wrong i can revert back to stock (with my apps and settings. at worst, default factory settings).
-if i flash the ROM, will i lose anything? -say- will i lose proprietary stuff like touchwiz?
-do custom ROMs use the latest android version (that's one of the reasons that i wanna root: to be up to date to latest android version)?
-can custom ROMs update to newer android versions automatically? or do i have to flash again and again everytime there is a new android update?
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hcengar said:
When I rooted my Galaxy S3 the status of the phone (visible in the preferences/device info) changed to "modified" and I stopped getting updates from Samsung (when checking for updates it said that I had a modified system so I wouldn't be able to get any updates). If you flash a ROM you will indeed loose everything, including Touchwiz, but if you backup your personal data then loosing Touchwiz could be a good thing, at least it was for me. I prefer Cyanogenmod.
Flashing ROMs is frequently done because you actually want to loose all that proprietary bloatware. Custom ROMs also can give you access to the latest Android version right away, wich is a lot faster than waiting months to get last year's version through Samsung. This is one of the main reasons why I decided to flash my phone. I don't use all the "features" that Samsung implements and with Cyanogenmod 10.1 my phone feels faster and has longer battery life.
As for updating, each ROM has different ways of handling it. Cyanogenmod has OTA updates which you can access through your phone "Settings/About phone" section and it will automatically flash them for you.
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thank you
the replies were as i hoped i am gonna root and flash soon.
but i am still looking for a reply to this one:
does the utility to root the phone also provides a full backup of the stock firmware and data? so, if smth goes wrong i can revert back to stock (with my apps and settings. at worst, default factory settings).
wtx1033 said:
thank you
the replies were as i hoped i am gonna root and flash soon.
but i am still looking for a reply to this one:
does the utility to root the phone also provides a full backup of the stock firmware and data? so, if smth goes wrong i can revert back to stock (with my apps and settings. at worst, default factory settings).
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Yes. You can use clockwork mod (cwm) to backup everything. Its recommended to take your backup using cwm before flashing a custom Rom. So that whenever you want your stock back or something with your new rom goes wrong you can revert back. You can use cwm to restore or use Odin which will make your device like when you bought it. You can restore the data alone using advance restore and your device will be like before flashing custom rom.
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Yes. You can use clockwork mod (cwm) to backup everything. Its recommended to take your backup using cwm before flashing a custom Rom. So that whenever you want your stock back or something with your new rom goes wrong you can revert back. You can use cwm to restore or use Odin which will make your device like when you bought it. You can restore the data alone using advance restore and your device will be like before flashing custom rom.
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i guess, if smth goes bad during rooting i cannot revert back. since for backup one needs to root the device beforehand. is this right?
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i guess, if smth goes bad during rooting i cannot revert back. since for backup one needs to root the device beforehand. is this right?
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I dont think cwm needs root access to take a backup. And you can rely on odin always if you got stock rom. So something goes wrong, Odin to the rescue.. So try taking backup with cwm first then root. Anyway if the root update was made for your device then its very very rare for things to go wrong.
So I have tripped KNOX already. I'm using TWRP, Xstrolite 2.3.
I've tried unchecking superSU root and retrying. I've tried using root cloaker.
Is there an easy way to not have the bootloader unlocked? Or is it once I flashed TWRP, its unlocked forever.
Has anyone else been able to successfully use Android Pay? Post your experience
I'm in the same boat as you, I've tried disabling SuperSU and using root cloak as well to no avail. I've also got the Xtrestolite ROM running Unikernel V8 and I keep getting compatibility errors no matter what I seem to do. Could it be possible that Android Pay is detecting that KNOX is compromised and therefore disabling Android Pay? The only other thing I can think of is that running a custom ROM somehow prevents Android Pay from being compatible. I'm almost tempted to make a nandroid backup and temporarily install the stock ROM to see if that solves the problem.
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I'm in the same boat as you, I've tried disabling SuperSU and using root cloak as well to no avail. I've also got the Xtrestolite ROM running Unikernel V8 and I keep getting compatibility errors no matter what I seem to do. Could it be possible that Android Pay is detecting that KNOX is compromised and therefore disabling Android Pay? The only other thing I can think of is that running a custom ROM somehow prevents Android Pay from being compatible. I'm almost tempted to make a nandroid backup and temporarily install the stock ROM to see if that solves the problem.
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Exactly.. Or that we're running a custom recovery too.
My thought is that the xstolite rom makes your phone be seen as a s6 edge.. Wonder if that affects things too. Though I've changed in the build prop back to 920T.
Would be a big bummer for us who've tripped Knox getting screwed out of android and Samsung pay. Others with rooted phones, have said it works.
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Exactly.. Or that we're running a custom recovery too.
My thought is that the xstolite rom makes your phone be seen as a s6 edge.. Wonder if that affects things too. Though I've changed in the build prop back to 920T.
Would be a big bummer for us who've tripped Knox getting screwed out of android and Samsung pay. Others with rooted phones, have said it works.
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I also changed the build prop to reflect my SM-G920F model. I really wish I could get Android Pay to function on this device, I tripped KNOX with the full understanding that I was going to lose the ability to use Samsung Pay but never did I imagine that using a custom ROM would cause me to compromise Android Pay as well. I purchased an international unlocked model of the S6 so naturally, the bootloader was unlocked from the factory, I don't know if having an unlocked bootloader necessarily causes you to lose Android Pay. It either has to be due to the fact that we're running a custom ROM, custom recovery, or because KNOX is tripped and it's preventing AP to run like it should.
Try installing the stock rom for your phone. Then under supersu simply uncheck root and see if adding the cards work
I have it running and got my bank card added haven't had a chance to use it though. I'm using TWRP on WanamLite, Adam kernel, with Xposed and a whole lot of stock apps deleted including KNOX and private mode. All I did was unroot, install, AP, root, profit. I'm guessing its something missing from XtreStoLite.
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Infekxion said:
I have it running and got my bank card added haven't had a chance to use it though. I'm using TWRP on WanamLite, Adam kernel, with Xposed and a whole lot of stock apps deleted including KNOX and private mode. All I did was unroot, install, AP, root, profit. I'm guessing its something missing from XtreStoLite.
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When you said you unrooted.. did you uncheck the root box in SU app or uninstalled all together and then reinstalled?
Full unroot under the Cleanup section
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think its reading something in the buildprop similar to how google wallet did.
i also tried modifying a few things in build prop to show official firmware nomenclature to no avail.
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Full unroot under the Cleanup section
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After you did full unroot. did you reboot? and to reinstall root, you flashed zip again? or what
After unrooting within SU app I just activated my card then reflashed the zip in recovery.
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wouldn't let me set it up on my g920a rooted with custom rom at first.
all i did was go to my super su app from chainfire disabled root and without reboot went back into android pay after i closed it and it let me set up my cards from my Google wallet and a new one. then i went back to the su app and enabled su again.
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wouldn't let me set it up on my g920a rooted with custom rom at first.
all i did was go to my super su app from chainfire disabled root and without reboot went back into android pay after i closed it and it let me set up my cards from my Google wallet and a new one. then i went back to the su app and enabled su again.
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What rom are you on?
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What rom are you on?
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XtreStoLite 1.5 on att
So has anyone got this working on XtreStoLite 2.3 ? Maybe just something that needs to be added to the rom?
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So has anyone got this working on XtreStoLite 2.3 ? Maybe just something that needs to be added to the rom?
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So i did a fresh install but with Tyrannus rom 5.1, it runs the same base as Xstolite (I believe)
I got android pay working on tyrannus rom 5.1
maybe try backing up your current setup, wipe and flash the rom and first thign you do is try android pay and see if it works. Thats what I did on the rom im running now
I got it working on Tyrannus as well...briefly...although I am not sure how I did it.
Currently on XtreStoLite 2.3, using Xposed + No Device Check and an app called SafetyNet Helper...it says my device is good to go, but Android Pay won't work still.
I hope someone is able to pinpoint what prevents it from working and how to spoof it. I tend to have my phone in my hands a lot more than my wallet.
K, got it working. Fresh install of Tyrannus 5.1, did NOT install Xposed. Immediately turned SU off after 1st boot, before updating Google Play Services. Was then able to activate Android Pay and add cards.
Update 20150924: tried to use it at McDonalds for tap and pay. Android Pay started when tapped but never completed the transaction and I had to use my card.
Anyone get the Gear S2 watch working in a custom rom like CM? CM13?
Still trying to get my gear s2 working on my galaxy s5 running CyanogenMod 12.1
Worked fine for me with oneplus one. Just make sure you light reset the watch any time you try a new rom
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Yea tried that. Normally thr gear app would pop up and try to pair with the gear s2 but its not doing that. Ive manually downloaded the three Samsung gear APKs on the other thread...believe it was the gear plugin, Samsung accessories, and Samsung gear app. The app is giving the error saying Samsung gear cannot install due to custom ROM.
Hi!
I tried to install the Samsung Gear App and get the same Error that the OS has been modified unauthorised... :-/
My Question is: Did someone try this App after insalling the stock ROM again?
I don't want to backup and reinstall all apps and data...
Thank you for your help!
I have been through this rodeo, and I have noted a couple things.
1) Unlocked Bootloader: Doesn't matter, I am currently running Phils Recovery on my TW Official OK4 ROM, Gear and android pay work fine.
2) CM12.1 or CM13, not rooted or removed root: Doesn't work. Root is not the only thing both apps are looking for.
3) TW Custom ROM: Doesn't work. Could not get it working on my MOAR 7 rom which is based on TW.
4) STOCK ROM with Phils Recovery: Works fine if I don't root.
So obviously the check goes beyond root, and probably some combination of Software Version / Build Number or some other reference point to detect the ROM.
The reports of hiding the root on a custom ROM to get Android Pay to work, simply don't work. My hunch is that whatever Android Pay is using, is the same mechanism as the Gear Manager app from Samsung.
In the end, frustrating, because TW stock is completely slow, and kills my battery, and does stupid things like turns on my screen anytime I put it on an inductive charging station, or won't allow me to turn the volume to max over BT because of communism... or socialism... or whatever.
[email protected] said:
I have been through this rodeo, and I have noted a couple things.
1) Unlocked Bootloader: Doesn't matter, I am currently running Phils Recovery on my TW Official OK4 ROM, Gear and android pay work fine.
2) CM12.1 or CM13, not rooted or removed root: Doesn't work. Root is not the only thing both apps are looking for.
3) TW Custom ROM: Doesn't work. Could not get it working on my MOAR 7 rom which is based on TW.
4) STOCK ROM with Phils Recovery: Works fine if I don't root.
So obviously the check goes beyond root, and probably some combination of Software Version / Build Number or some other reference point to detect the ROM.
The reports of hiding the root on a custom ROM to get Android Pay to work, simply don't work. My hunch is that whatever Android Pay is using, is the same mechanism as the Gear Manager app from Samsung.
In the end, frustrating, because TW stock is completely slow, and kills my battery, and does stupid things like turns on my screen anytime I put it on an inductive charging station, or won't allow me to turn the volume to max over BT because of communism... or socialism... or whatever.
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Thank you "eatmeimadanish"!
So, if i install the stock rom (recovery stays the same) the app will start without a problem and the connection to the gear s2 is fine?
The only thing is that i'll have the standard samsung tw-rom again...
scorp1on1899 said:
Thank you "eatmeimadanish"!
So, if i install the stock rom (recovery stays the same) the app will start without a problem and the connection to the gear s2 is fine?
The only thing is that i'll have the standard samsung tw-rom again...
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Yes. Unfortunately the TW rom does suck, and has a bunch of built in stuff you can't turn off. If you are used to (like me) with a ROM that makes any kind of sense in it's design, then it's a beotch to switch back (kiss the battery life goodbye). On a good front, the Gear S2 is pretty awesome....
Hey!
I got my Samsung Gear S2 today and i'm installing my apps again.
Gear Manager started without a problem and the connection to the Gear S2 was established in a second!
Of course i'll install another launcher!
Best regards,
scorp
Found the Answer... CM13 working with Gear S2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gea...gear-manager-samsung-accessory-t3216240/page7
Found the answer with the help above. I just did this on my Ressurection ROM and the app now looks for the watch... Don't have my watch but it got past the error message so I will try it tonight and report back.
Lineage OS
Tested on Lineage OS for Samsung S7 Edge. It worked perfectly thank you
[email protected] said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gea...gear-manager-samsung-accessory-t3216240/page7
Found the answer with the help above. I just did this on my Ressurection ROM and the app now looks for the watch... Don't have my watch but it got past the error message so I will try it tonight and report back.
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Tested on my galaxy s4 gt-i9500 whit lineage os 14.1 and works perfect
I have followed instruction and after editing i could not install gear and required apps from google play. I had to find apk outside and it worked. I`m using lineage 14.1 and n910v -Note 4 Verizon. Does anyone know why i could not download from google play ? Should i use some other brand in build.props or change something additionally?
Hello, I currently own a Samsung S8+. SM-G955F
It is still under warranty so it is all stock and official.
But I want to root it after the warranty period is over.
I do not want to risk even a single chance of bootlooping or bricking my phone, so I ask for 100% guaranteed success.
I would like to get TWRP as custom recovery and use Magisk systemless root. Tell me if that is possible. I do not want to harm my device in any way.
At last, I will not install a custom rom on my phone since that will cause thing I am not aware of. I would like it stock rooted.
Better no root. it is not worth it, if you do not want ads use Blokada app
KirbyFan64 said:
Hello, I currently own a Samsung S8+. SM-G955F
It is still under warranty so it is all stock and official.
But I want to root it after the warranty period is over.
I do not want to risk even a single chance of bootlooping or bricking my phone, so I ask for 100% guaranteed success.
I would like to get TWRP as custom recovery and use Magisk systemless root. Tell me if that is possible. I do not want to harm my device in any way.
At last, I will not install a custom rom on my phone since that will cause thing I am not aware of. I would like it stock rooted.
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I have installed Alexis Rom 6 and the phone is incredibly customizable and faster with better battery life than stock. It also comes with magisk preinstalled. It also has some mods like dolby atmos, which make a difference. My experience was really good, with stock rom the phone started to lag bad... I have followed this video to install the rom, from stock status. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_h10lUiUxE&t=294s
Alexis is a good dev. Many roms of him flashable. But root is not good for safety and security. Important these days. Custom roms always bugs and problems. And you destroy your battery with lots of flashing. As you read a lot of people have problems, losses imei number. S8 with android pie beta is gorgeous and runs well. good battery. New opportunities. download updat zip. go to stock recovery, update zip, wait, reboot. You will not regret
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I have installed Alexis Rom 6 and the phone is incredibly customizable and faster with better battery life than stock. It also comes with magisk preinstalled. It also has some mods like dolby atmos, which make a difference. My experience was really good, with stock rom the phone started to lag bad... I have followed this video to install the rom, from stock status.
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Thanks but like I said, I do not want to install any custom rom. Stock will do just fine for me. But I will think about it.
Have this older Samsung Galaxy J3 Orbit SM-S357BL phone. Sure it's a cheap phone but I really like it and wanted to replace samsungs bloatware with a stock android os. Is this even possible and how would I go about doing this? Tried watching YouTube videos but they're just too confusing with loud rap music playing over the videos. Thanks.
jacatone said:
Have this older Samsung Galaxy J3 Orbit SM-S357BL phone. Sure it's a cheap phone but I really like it and wanted to replace samsungs bloatware with a stock android os. Is this even possible and how would I go about doing this? Tried watching YouTube videos but they're just too confusing with loud rap music playing over the videos. Thanks.
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Installing stock software won't change anything, it will still have all the Samsung bloatware. Flashing stock software might get rid of bloatware from your carrier such as the Verizon based apps that are installed on Verizon's devices and other carrier based services and apps.
If you want something that is a little more lean and stripped down, that can only be done by flashing modified stock ROMs or true custom ROMs, but that requires an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery and/or root.
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Installing stock software won't change anything, it will still have all the Samsung bloatware. Flashing stock software might get rid of bloatware from your carrier such as the Verizon based apps that are installed on Verizon's devices and other carrier based services and apps.
If you want something that is a little more lean and stripped down, that can only be done by flashing modified stock ROMs or true custom ROMs, but that requires an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery and/or root.
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OK, where would I find a modified stock rom or a leaner custom rom? I guess Lineage os 16 was made for android 9 pie but can't seem to find a download for it.
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Droidriven said:
Installing stock software won't change anything, it will still have all the Samsung bloatware. Flashing stock software might get rid of bloatware from your carrier such as the Verizon based apps that are installed on Verizon's devices and other carrier based services and apps.
If you want something that is a little more lean and stripped down, that can only be done by flashing modified stock ROMs or true custom ROMs, but that requires an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery and/or root.
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Yeah, is there a custom rom that is more stripped down than Lineage or is that the best option?
jacatone said:
OK, where would I find a modified stock rom or a leaner custom rom? I guess Lineage os 16 was made for android 9 pie but can't seem to find a download for it.
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You can't use any kind of custom ROM, you can only use stock ROMs based on your stock firmware that someone has modified and only if a modified stock ROM exists for your specific device model. I don't know if any exist for your device or if there is a working method to install them on your device. You'll have to research that yourself, I'm just telling you what you can and can not use so that you don't go looking for the wrong thing.