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[Q] SONY Z3 Dual any problem ?

Hello guys, i would like to know whether you face any problem with your sony z3 dual , especially with issues like waterproof.
i heard that the sony z3 normal version had issues with its waterproofing etc
thank you

Only issue I found so far is camera app. It always says error: recording in progress in another app. cannot record. But everything works fine. It happens everytime I enter camera app. Quite annoying.

lin013190 said:
Only issue I found so far is camera app. It always says error: recording in progress in another app. cannot record. But everything works fine. It happens everytime I enter camera app. Quite annoying.
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Do you have the OK google feature on?, It's on by default and there is a bug affecting the Camera app with that option. Check to see if it's that, let;s hope that Sony is taking note and plan to fix this in the next update.

erasat said:
Do you have the OK google feature on?, It's on by default and there is a bug affecting the Camera app with that option. Check to see if it's that, let;s hope that Sony is taking note and plan to fix this in the next update.
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Ohhh. I see. Yea, I'm using the Google Launcher with google now detection on everywhere. Hmmm. I hope they fix it too..

I had a dual sim, no water proof issues however one of the sim slots did not function. The SIM 1 would have intermittent capability. Sometimes it would say that I need to place a sim in the slot other times it just would not hold service. SIM 2 worked without any issues. I just returned it for a regular D6603.

chetly968 said:
I had a dual sim, no water proof issues however one of the sim slots did not function. The SIM 1 would have intermittent capability. Sometimes it would say that I need to place a sim in the slot other times it just would not hold service. SIM 2 worked without any issues. I just returned it for a regular D6603.
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Where did you bought the D6603?

lin013190 said:
Only issue I found so far is camera app. It always says error: recording in progress in another app. cannot record. But everything works fine. It happens everytime I enter camera app. Quite annoying.
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same with me, why this message came again and again?
any solutions?

no issues here with the dual sim version.
all works as expected (incl. camera)

Elsalawi said:
same with me, why this message came again and again?
any solutions?
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I heard its a google now launcher problem? Are you using GNow launcher too?

I have no main problem basically. But I'm not really happy with some points:
- Not true Dual Sim Dual Standby: you can't call each other. You can't hold a call when another call come. Note 3 Duos can do.
- Not really high quality G lens. As I know Sony G lens is very high end lens brand.
- Camera lens seem easily to crack. I have small cracked althought not decrease image quality in most pics! Of course no drop!
- Camera performance same as regular Z3: not very good, accept extreme low light condition.
- This is the first Android phone I have to use stock, without rooting. I have to wait locked bootloader rooting method. I want to hide softkeys with "Auto Hide Soft Key" for full screen usable. I also want to remove some bloats + install xposed + optimize it for better battery life.
- Phone easily to reach high temp with games, sometime with long time 3G connection.
My bad Eng

lin013190 said:
I heard its a google now launcher problem? Are you using GNow launcher too?
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No I'm not using Google launcher or any other launcher.
still facing the problem.

Ah I have another prob: call quality is avarage, not very good. Sometime with distortion.
External speaker call volume = low with only bottom speaker!

waterproofing issue anyone ?
Please let me know if any of you guys who faced waterproofing issues with the Sony z3 dual Thank you

I haven't encountered any waterproofing issue on Z3 Dual.

Any of you experiencing the pink spot issue?

tel033 said:
Any of you experiencing the pink spot issue?
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No pink spot issue as well, sir.

Shafleciel said:
Hello guys, i would like to know whether you face any problem with your sony z3 dual , especially with issues like waterproof.
i heard that the sony z3 normal version had issues with its waterproofing etc
thank you
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my issues is how to active dual Sim like Sony said you can received call when calling forum Sim 1

the only issue I sometimes seem to have it when spotify plays music my sdcard is disconnected.
anyone any idea how this happens? (spotify does store it's offline music on the sdcard.)

notifications volume
hello the only problem I have so far is the extremely low notification volume although I have set it up to the max...I don't hear the whatsapp and sms notifications I have to constantly check my phone...any solutions for that?

Galaxy S3 --> Z3?

Who else upgraded to the z3 from a galaxy s3?

Me!
Man, the z3 is an other planet than the s3... more more more better

qais9 said:
Who else upgraded to the z3 from a galaxy s3?
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Better wait for the Z4 which is coming real soon...

i'm also switching from s3 to z3
trust me its worth it , it is a whole new world

Ben Ling said:
Better wait for the Z4 which is coming real soon...
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(I went from S3 -> Z3. Considered waiting for the Z4 but what's the point? It's still all just rumours and when that's out you'll be waiting for the Z5!)
Z3 is the first Android I've had where I don't want to get rid of the UI for stock/CM/Slimroms etc. I need root fairly badly for development reasons, and there's no way of doing that without losing some Sony software, but between the sensible Sony UI and the ability to use adb pm to remove unwanted bloat I have no other complaints at all.

Ben Ling said:
Better wait for the Z4 which is coming real soon...
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When making statements of this kind, it would help others if you also quoted your source(s)...
Thanks

Coming from S3 i'll receive my Z3 thursday

I made the switch from my S3 to the Z3 yesterday. I am still using my S3 at present because I still need to set it all up and realised (after upgrading) I couldn't root it without unlocking bootloader, which isn't too helpful.

I am thinking of changing my S5 for the Z3
Not had an xperia phone since the first Z, so could be a mistake

THUDUK said:
I am thinking of changing my S5 for the Z3
Not had an xperia phone since the first Z, so could be a mistake
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I wouldn't. You'd be downgrading the camera, probably a bit of speed and maybe even battery life depending on how you use your phone. Also the S5 is much more comfortable to hold and has a better screen.

I am coming from the S3 and it is a major upgrade! I did install Nova Prime but I do not miss root. It is so fast!

Jonathan-H said:
I wouldn't. You'd be downgrading the camera, probably a bit of speed and maybe even battery life depending on how you use your phone. Also the S5 is much more comfortable to hold and has a better screen.
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The sony have a better camera overall . The Samsung have a very shaky camera

I came from an S3 to the Z3v. And I never look back on it because of all the attention grabbing how I have one completely unique phone from the rest that's an army of Samsung and Apple.

S3 to Z3.. Not Everyone is in with my Choice. but I've never been happier with an Android Device yet..
Z3 Rocks!

I came from an S3. Write up of my quick thoughts and discussion here on Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/2ktacg/my_thoughts_on_the_xperia_z3_after_a_week_of_usage/
http://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/2kudzh/my_thoughts_on_the_xperia_z3_after_a_week_of/
Edit: Still happy with it, but my biggest complaint has to do with SMS/MMS: Sometimes it just flat out fails. Have to go into airplane mode and back to get it working again. (I don't use WiFi calling, so that's not it.) Have tried turning off auto date/time as a possible fix as reported by others. Too soon to tell.

It depends person to person but if you are going to be in a 2 year contract and use your phone "extensively", you will more than likely see screen burn on the S5. Its the nature of organic LEDs. Also the Z3 on manual takes good pics Im sure they will fix auto mode in the new update.
As for battery life the Z3 will have better battery-life every review I have seen says the same, especially in web surfing because on white back grounds AMOLED uses a lot more power than LCD's.
In the audio department Z3 has stereo speakers which the S5 does not. As for the audio jack output both are good.
GSM Arena battery life test results on bottom of each page.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p3.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-review-1064p3.php
At the end of the day both are good phones though. Try each one and see which suits you as our opinions may not match yours.
I consider my self fairly neutral when comes to phones. I used to tell people to avoid Sony (only the phones) in the mid 2000s (Symbian era) as most of my friends/relatives phones had issues in less than a year but Sony has come a long way and this is my first Sony phone and I am happy.

SportingChap said:
I came from an S3. Write up of my quick thoughts and discussion here on Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/2ktacg/my_thoughts_on_the_xperia_z3_after_a_week_of_usage/
http://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/2kudzh/my_thoughts_on_the_xperia_z3_after_a_week_of/
Edit: Still happy with it, but my biggest complaint has to do with SMS/MMS: Sometimes it just flat out fails. Have to go into airplane mode and back to get it working again. (I don't use WiFi calling, so that's not it.) Have tried turning off auto date/time as a possible fix as reported by others. Too soon to tell.
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Try disabling VoLTE
Settings -> Call Settings -> uncheck "Enable VoLTE"

Jonathan-H said:
I wouldn't. You'd be downgrading the camera, probably a bit of speed and maybe even battery life depending on how you use your phone. Also the S5 is much more comfortable to hold and has a better screen.
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Nice try, Troll ))

I came from a S III. The Z3 is in a whole different world.

Same, I receive my Z3 yesterday and... wow, wonderfull phone i'm very happy

Does LG G Flex 2 still worth it in 2016 for $170?

My local online shop sell this phone for only $170 brand new, which is steal for a snapdragon 810 devices(At least in my country). The model is H959 with 32gb storage and 2gb ram i believe. Im upgrading from lumia 1520. Does it worth it? Thanks in advance (Sorry for my bad english)

170$? US Dollars? I would say shut up and take my money!
Even if you have to know that the development is really bad because no Android6root and no bootloaderunlock - for now, and probably forever. Thank you lg!
On top of that, the screen brightness range is a joke.. A bad one. Don't get me wrong, it's sharp and clear but during day it's not THAT Bright and at night it's like looking right into the Sun.
Overheating and lag is gone for me since android6 but root is gone too so... Meh :/
Battery is okay but don't expect too much - but you still can get 2 days if you handle it right.
Camera is still far above average I would say (good at night, ois, laserfocus, even 4k, but ****ty slomo compared to iPhones)
Helpful?
From H955 16gb
Edit: still would buy again though.. It's still best bang for the bucks and literally physically indestructible

No. I had nothing but problems with mine. Regretted buying it so much. I especially hated the battery life, the software and that you can't turn double tap to wake off unless you installed a 3rd party app. If you have to buy it, I'd go for the 3gb ram version. I had the 2gb version and the user experience was miserable.
I replaced mine with a Oneplus 3 and never looked back.

ChildishGambino3005 said:
No. I had nothing but problems with mine. Regretted buying it so much. I especially hated the battery life, the software and that you can't turn double tap to wake off unless you installed a 3rd party app. If you have to buy it, I'd go for the 3gb ram version. I had the 2gb version and the user experience was miserable.
I replaced mine with a Oneplus 3 and never looked back.
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I have to disagree regarding getting the 3GB H950 over the 2GB versions unless you are a AT&T customer, for the following reasons:-
- Even if you are an AT&T customer, the H950 is stuck on 5.1.1. and the battery life sucks.
- If you are not an AT&T customer, the H950 is on 5.0.1 and you can only get it upgraded by having an AT&T sim card in the phone and connected to there network. Take it from me, getting to even 5.1.1 is a nightmare. :crying:
Totally agree though regarding the One Plus 3, the user experience is second to none. :victory:

Buy it if is H955 !!!!! Update to Marshmallow and enjoy it ! Super fast, not overheat more then other LG for example LG3, great camera, great display, great design .
I used before LG Optimus One ( 2 years) Samsung Galaxy S2 ( 3 years) LG G3 (1 year) all rooted using with custom roms, so I know what I am talking about !
H955 its a very good phone only with Marshmallow because let you using other programs , like google phone changing your default dialer , google messaging , so I don't need root for this phone.
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XdaJoeX said:
170$? US Dollars? I would say shut up and take my money!
Even if you have to know that the development is really bad because no Android6root and no bootloaderunlock - for now, and probably forever. Thank you lg!
On top of that, the screen brightness range is a joke.. A bad one. Don't get me wrong, it's sharp and clear but during day it's not THAT Bright and at night it's like looking right into the Sun.
Overheating and lag is gone for me since android6 but root is gone too so... Meh :/
Battery is okay but don't expect too much - but you still can get 2 days if you handle it right.
Camera is still far above average I would say (good at night, ois, laserfocus, even 4k, but ****ty slomo compared to iPhones)
Helpful?
From H955 16gb
Edit: still would buy again though.. It's still best bang for the bucks and literally physically indestructible
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Sunlight contrast ratio its very good for G Flex 2
"Under direct sunlight, the LG G Flex2 is able to retain excellent contrast and stay legible even in the most brightly lit environments." .. gsmarena.com
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_flex2-review-1209p3.php

paco68 said:
Buy it if is H955 !!!!!
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But does the H955 work on GSM carriers like AT&T?
And how can we tell if we have 2 gb ram or 3gb ram?

Here is an Amazon url to H955 in USA
https://www.amazon.com/LG-Unlocked-Phone-Internal-Memory/dp/B00UFWB0FW/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
Will this phone work in the United States?
https://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx2EO3MN7WXWLA5/ref=ask_ql_ql_al_hza?asin=B00UFWB0FW
Does it work with At&T?
https://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx31RGWWG40E4P1/ref=ask_ql_ql_al_hza?asin=B00UFWB0FW

Masteryates said:
I have to disagree regarding getting the 3GB H950 over the 2GB versions unless you are a AT&T customer, for the following reasons:-
- Even if you are an AT&T customer, the H950 is stuck on 5.1.1. and the battery life sucks.
- If you are not an AT&T customer, the H950 is on 5.0.1 and you can only get it upgraded by having an AT&T sim card in the phone and connected to there network. Take it from me, getting to even 5.1.1 is a nightmare. :crying:
Totally agree though regarding the One Plus 3, the user experience is second to none. :victory:
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Agreed. It depends on what you need, I guess.
The thing i hated the most about the 2gb version is the apps and tabs reloading in chrome or other web browsers. It reloads every time I leave a tab for more than 20 seconds. I have to use this secure website for work and would have to log back in every time the website reloads. So i would be on this website, pulling some information off it to send a text to my client, go back for additional information, and it would force me to log in again and search the database again. Rinse and repeat about 20 times a day. I think the lack of ram and the ram management was responsible for it. I would have never expected that from a 2015 flagship-ish phone.

ChildishGambino3005 said:
Agreed. It depends on what you need, I guess.
The thing i hated the most about the 2gb version is the apps and tabs reloading in chrome or other web browsers. It reloads every time I leave a tab for more than 20 seconds. I have to use this secure website for work and would have to log back in every time the website reloads. So i would be on this website, pulling some information off it to send a text to my client, go back for additional information, and it would force me to log in again and search the database again. Rinse and repeat about 20 times a day. I think the lack of ram and the ram management was responsible for it. I would have never expected that from a 2015 flagship-ish phone.
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I think this is a software issue and not a hardware !
I use the default browser.
I Never use the Chrome on mobile devices.

ChildishGambino3005 said:
Agreed. It depends on what you need, I guess.
The thing i hated the most about the 2gb version is the apps and tabs reloading in chrome or other web browsers. It reloads every time I leave a tab for more than 20 seconds. I have to use this secure website for work and would have to log back in every time the website reloads. So i would be on this website, pulling some information off it to send a text to my client, go back for additional information, and it would force me to log in again and search the database again. Rinse and repeat about 20 times a day. I think the lack of ram and the ram management was responsible for it. I would have never expected that from a 2015 flagship-ish phone.
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I feel you. I used to have these sorts of issues on the Nexus 9. Things improved when I switched to Habit Browser as that seemed to be less RAM intensive than bloated Chrome. There were also some custom roms on the Nexus 9 which would employ zRAM to effectively buy another 0.5GB. Maybe something you could look at? I also went for the H950 for the Mrs due to being concerned that 2GB wasn't enough on the other versions. Its starting to feel like you cant win either way with the GF2. :crying:

paco68 said:
Buy it if is H955 !!!!! Update to Marshmallow and enjoy it ! Super fast, not overheat more then other LG for example LG3, great camera, great display, great design .
I used before LG Optimus One ( 2 years) Samsung Galaxy S2 ( 3 years) LG G3 (1 year) all rooted using with custom roms, so I know what I am talking about !
H955 its a very good phone only with Marshmallow because let you using other programs , like google phone changing your default dialer , google messaging , so I don't need root for this phone.
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Sunlight contrast ratio its very good for G Flex 2
"Under direct sunlight, the LG G Flex2 is able to retain excellent contrast and stay legible even in the most brightly lit environments." .. gsmarena.com
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Hi I am considering getting a Flex 2. I went from considering ordering a H950 At&t variant from abroad because of the extra storage and RAM. However after seeing that it will probably never get marshmallow and probably has more bloatware on it than other versions, I am thinking that even the weaker H955 might work better with Marshmallow since it should be a lot more optimized for the SD810 SOC and maybe better RAM management too. I would appreciate if you could give your opinion on some things:
- What is the bloatware situation on the Flex 2 Marshmallow ROM out of the box?
- Have you seen an increase in speed on everyday use( compared to 5.1.1/11)? Such as opening apps and multitasking.
- Have you seen a decrease in heating and throttling issues?
-Have you seen an increase in battery life?
- Have you tried any low or high end gaming? If so what is the performance like on Marshmallow?
- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
- Have you tried different launchers to see if there has been an improvement in performance?
Many thanks

danslb said:
Hi I am considering getting a Flex 2. I went from considering ordering a H950 At&t variant from abroad because of the extra storage and RAM. However after seeing that it will probably never get marshmallow and probably has more bloatware on it than other versions, I am thinking that even the weaker H955 might work better with Marshmallow since it should be a lot more optimized for the SD810 SOC and maybe better RAM management too. I would appreciate if you could give your opinion on some things:
- What is the bloatware situation on the Flex 2 Marshmallow ROM out of the box?
- Have you seen an increase in speed on everyday use( compared to 5.1.1/11)? Such as opening apps and multitasking.
- Have you seen a decrease in heating and throttling issues?
-Have you seen an increase in battery life?
- Have you tried any low or high end gaming? If so what is the performance like on Marshmallow?
- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
- Have you tried different launchers to see if there has been an improvement in performance?
Many thanks
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- What is the bloatware situation on the Flex 2 Marshmallow ROM out of the box?
Possibility to disable uninstall / reinstall LG apps if you don't like.
- Have you seen an increase in speed on everyday use( compared to 5.1.1/11)? Such as opening apps and multitasking.
Yes
- Have you seen a decrease in heating and throttling issues?
Yes
-Have you seen an increase in battery life?
Same, my record is more then 120 Hours but if you use intense you drain the battery more quickly.
- Have you tried any low or high end gaming? If so what is the performance like on Marshmallow?
Not tried.
- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
What issue ? On 0% still see the display very good.
- Have you tried different launchers to see if there has been an improvement in performance?
Nova Launcher work great.

paco68 said:
good phone only with Marshmallow because let you using other programs , like google phone changing your default dialer , google messaging , so I don't need root for this phone.
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Would you mind explaining what you mean? I don't exactly understand.
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- Has the minimum brightness issue been fixed?
What issue ? On 0% still see the display very good.
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Generally speaking the reviews and users report that at min brightness it was way too bright so for viewing in the darkness it is just too hard on the eyes.

danslb said:
Would you mind explaining what you mean? I don't exactly understand.
Generally speaking the reviews and users report that at min brightness it was way too bright so for viewing in the darkness it is just too hard on the eyes.
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You can install Google Phone: google-phone-3-01-08_rc8-android-apk-download/ RC8 is the last version that work on MM and is not a Nexus phone.
Also you will find Google Apps here : http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/

next phone?

after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+

unitz0mbie said:
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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Not really digging on Sammy anymore. After having this phone I will never go back to a phone without front firing speakers and a "selfie" flash. I don't give two figs about Moto mods but give me a "refresh" of this phone with updated specs and I'm all in! Otherwise GoodbyeMoto.

unitz0mbie said:
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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Not really sure why you're disappointed with the X, except battery life...
Hope you enjoy your S8+ at 2-3 times the price.
At this time my next phone is unknown...

acejavelin said:
Not really sure why you're disappointed with the X, except battery life...
Hope you enjoy your S8+ at 2-3 times the price.
At this time my next phone is unknown...
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Very happy with it, it'll last me another year or two at least If I keep charging up to 90% to help with the long run, but I would have to say my next phone definitely would have front facing speakers and has a big screen, which the newer phones are having bigger screens so that's an easy mark to pass. The front facing speakers though, that's a dying breed now a days because of the new bezeless design of newer flagships.

Moto z with battery mod
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I am waiting to see what the Nokia 9 spec are rumoured front facing stereo speakers have a nice big screen ?
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For me it definitely won't be another motorola/lenovo phone.
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I switched to an OnePlus 3T over a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It has really long battery life(6 to 9 hours Screen on time), depending if you are on WiFi or LTE/3G. The performance is the awesome. No Ram management issues (like the Galaxy Phones), everything is smooth and opens instantly. It's the first Android device in 7 years, since I'm using this OS, where my Device isn't modified, cause Oxygen OS is the stock Rom, which I would flash as a Custom ROM. You could modify the Screen density, you have gestures, network traffic monitor, battery percent, no bloatware...(except the gapps)...
The only things I could complain about is the camera in low light and front facing speakers would be nice. Otherwise if someone wants to buy a new phone: get the OP3T.
I recommend the phone to someone who isn't a nerd like me and had the S7 before. He had awful battery life on the S7 and the phone wasn't really faster then the MXP. He had nothing to complain after the switch. He hadn't called me once. I called and asked him what battery life he get's and he told me that his battery lasts 2 to 3 days, without charging.

I'll probably go over to lg g5, xiaomi mi6 ot oneplus 3t whichever gets cheaper

OCmylife said:
I switched to an OnePlus 3T over a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It has really long battery life(6 to 9 hours Screen on time), depending if you are on WiFi or LTE/3G. The performance is the awesome. No Ram management issues (like the Galaxy Phones), everything is smooth and opens instantly. It's the first Android device in 7 years, since I'm using this OS, where my Device isn't modified, cause Oxygen OS is the stock Rom, which I would flash as a Custom ROM. You could modify the Screen density, you have gestures, network traffic monitor, battery percent, no bloatware...(except the gapps)...
The only things I could complain about is the camera in low light and front facing speakers would be nice. Otherwise if someone wants to buy a new phone: get the OP3T.
I recommend the phone to someone who isn't a nerd like me and had the S7 before. He had awful battery life on the S7 and the phone wasn't really faster then the MXP. He had nothing to complain after the switch. He hadn't called me once. I called and asked him what battery life he get's and he told me that his battery lasts 2 to 3 days, without charging.
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It is just a damn shame the OP3T is GSM only, for those of us in the US. I get it, though; it's an international device and the CDMA market is too small globally to be worth changing the whole design over. Other than that, it seems like as close to a perfect phone as you'll find in today's compromised market.

My next will be Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge or S8+. This probably won't happen until around Black Friday. I'm really fond of my Moto X but miss Touch Wiz.

I will try to go to iPhone. I'm really disappointed in Android and in Lenovo.

Feahnor said:
I will try to go to iPhone. I'm really disappointed in Android and in Lenovo.
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Being disappointed in Lenovo is one thing. But in Android in general...a google phone is the only way to go to get consistent updates. Otherwise, there is no guarantees with any OEM. Nearly every OEM out there has pretty much pulls this same stuff. Typically devices within 12 months of release are updated quickly (relatively) and thereafter, the newest phones become priority. By 24 months support is non-existent.

aybarrap1 said:
Being disappointed in Lenovo is one thing. But in Android in general...a google phone is the only way to go to get consistent updates. Otherwise, there is no guarantees with any OEM. Nearly every OEM out there has pretty much pulls this same stuff. Typically devices within 12 months of release are updated quickly (relatively) and thereafter, the newest phones become priority. By 24 months support is non-existent.
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I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).

I want the following:
1. Unlocked bootloader.
2. Works on Verizon.
3. uSDcard
4. Removable battery.
Suggestions?

I agree with the 3T if your on GSM get it I've also switched and man was it worth it I even relocked my bootloader and stayed on stock it's that good I get 4 or 5 hours SOT when I'm at work and I got terrible service there and don't even need to charge midday I'll have 15% before I plug in when I hit the bed when I'm not at work I'll get 2 days with 7 hr SOT it's a beast hands down no root or mods

matthelm said:
I want the following:
1. Unlocked bootloader.
2. Works on Verizon.
3. uSDcard
4. Removable battery.
Suggestions?
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Only 3 current phones fit 3 of 4 of these requirements... All are LG, the G5, V10, and V20... But the LG G5 is the ONLY device available that fits all these requirements since it has an unofficial bootloader unlock, the others do not have an unlockable bootloader.
Not much of a choice in my book...

acejavelin said:
Only 3 current phones fit 3 of 4 of these requirements... All are LG, the G5, V10, and V20... But the LG G5 is the ONLY device available that fits all these requirements since it has an unofficial bootloader unlock, the others do not have an unlockable bootloader.
Not much of a choice in my book...
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Yep. This is the reason why I have given in on the removable battery option, hence this phone. I'm not on a CDMA network now, but I want the option to switch should I so choose.
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Feahnor said:
I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
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Then I say go for the iPhone. My general opinion is that Android was partially designed with the idea of customizing the user experience.
As far as being a secure OS, Android itself is secure. With security updates being provided regularly now, it is more so. Honestly, a Google phone, aka Pixel, will get timely updates, doesn't require mods to be usable, and has the option to customize should you choose to do so. And not to mention no proprietary software causing security issues (here's looking at you LG).

Feahnor said:
I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
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Apple is doing its proprietary implementation of everything too, it's even worse than android devices.
And why having each OEM making their UX for android make it unsecure, unstable and unsafe ?
User having to work to make things work ? isn't your phone working as the OEM intended it to be ? you bought your phone not knowing what it can or can't do ? I wont buy a phone that can't have a specific feature that i need and then complain that i have to implement it by myself
Your arguments to explain why you're moving to IOS are flimsy.
You can be bored of android, or wanting to try IOS, but man android unsafe, unsecure or unstable ? custom roms can be unstable, but it's not the OEM fault.

aybarrap1 said:
Yep. This is the reason why I have given in on the removable battery option, hence this phone. I'm not on a CDMA network now, but I want the option to switch should I so choose.
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I gave up on CDMA and Verizon in general about 4 years ago with a Nexus 4... I've bounced between a few providers since then, will never go back to Verizon. I pay $36 per month per line for unlimited calls and texts, and 8GB of unthrottled AT&T LTE data per line. I'll deal with marginal service in a few rural areas I rarely go as a trade-off.

Should I buy it?

Hello, I need a new phone and I'm looking at the Nokia 3 because it has an e-compass and gyroscope, sensors that are a must for me.
Sadly most brands are leaving e-compass behind. So I got really exited when I saw that all nokias have it.
So far the only thing that keeps me from buying it are the bugs I read about the phone in this forum and others: screen that doesn't turn on, battery drains, charging that stops at 80%, phone getting slow/choppy, phone that hangs after using the camera.
So I need to ask you this... how serious are those bugs? do you believe they're gonna fix them or they are not doing anything to improve it? is it worth it?
Thanks.

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XJeFX said:
Hello, I need a new phone and I'm looking at the Nokia 3 because it has an e-compass and gyroscope, sensors that are a must for me.
Sadly most brands are leaving e-compass behind. So I got really exited when I saw that all nokias have it.
So far the only thing that keeps me from buying it are the bugs I read about the phone in this forum and others: screen that doesn't turn on, battery drains, charging that stops at 80%, phone getting slow/choppy, phone that hangs after using the camera.
So I need to ask you this... how serious are those bugs? do you believe they're gonna fix them or they are not doing anything to improve it? is it worth it?
Thanks.
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Personally I haven't experienced any of those bugs, the only thing that once happened to me is that once the phone ran down and refused to charge or come on for a while. That said, I'm not sure other phones don't sometimes have similar or worse issues.
Might I ask, why do you need a phone with a compass sensor? Can't you just get a camera app from the play store, or wouldn't such an app work without the sensor?
Anyway bottom line is, the choice is up to you. I believe getting a phone without issues is sometimes a hit and miss situation. Ultimately you'll have to make the decision for yourself. I'm not really sure I can advise you on that. I got my Nokia 3 because I'd always liked the Nokia brand (but couldn't stand the WP os) so this was my way of declaring solidarity with Android on Nokia.
My biggest issue with the phone is the lack of backlight on the navigation buttons, which can be inconvenient in dark places. If that is not a deal breaker for you, you can go ahead and get it, but I'd recommend searching for info on people who have used the compass sensor first

XJeFX said:
Hello, I need a new phone and I'm looking at the Nokia 3 because it has an e-compass and gyroscope, sensors that are a must for me.
Sadly most brands are leaving e-compass behind. So I got really exited when I saw that all nokias have it.
So far the only thing that keeps me from buying it are the bugs I read about the phone in this forum and others: screen that doesn't turn on, battery drains, charging that stops at 80%, phone getting slow/choppy, phone that hangs after using the camera.
So I need to ask you this... how serious are those bugs? do you believe they're gonna fix them or they are not doing anything to improve it? is it worth it?
Thanks.
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Hi there !
First,I want to say Nokia 3 phone is for me a very good choice :
-have a clean pure android OS without bloats(thats why I am not sure it is a wise choice to root it or unlock boot)
-is a very fast phone if you disable apps you dont need(faster that a rooted debloated Xperia)
-I use MX or FV5 camera for taking very nice photos (at 8Mpx)
-Charging never stops if you know that Nokia 3 have a new protection system for battery-if phone is on charger and you use it a lot on 4g internet the temperature of battery is increasing over normal and automatically is trigged the protection suspending the charge until temperature drop to normal.
So is not a bug,is an enhancement for better battery life.
-If you search the guys who are over complaining you will see they work for competitors of Nokia.Dont forget is a tough competition and there are a lot of high end phones who are not on Oreo update program.Nokia until now keept their promise to deliver monthly updates and upgrades .
Also suspicious is the fact that MTK had double time to deliver drivers but is still delaying.
If you want the best budget phone Nokia 3 is by far the best choice !
All the best !

XJeFX said:
Hello, I need a new phone and I'm looking at the Nokia 3 because it has an e-compass and gyroscope, sensors that are a must for me.
Sadly most brands are leaving e-compass behind. So I got really exited when I saw that all nokias have it.
So far the only thing that keeps me from buying it are the bugs I read about the phone in this forum and others: screen that doesn't turn on, battery drains, charging that stops at 80%, phone getting slow/choppy, phone that hangs after using the camera.
So I need to ask you this... how serious are those bugs? do you believe they're gonna fix them or they are not doing anything to improve it? is it worth it?
Thanks.
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Hi, I'm using this phone about 2 months, and i had no bugs so far. I didn't tested compass so i can't really tell you about that function. I think that Nokia will fix those "bugs" that other users experienced because they release OTA updates often so you can be sure that you are on latest version. Design of this phone is nice, my friends like it too. Battery life is great for me, it lasts whole day without charging. Sound quality of speakers are ok, i would say average, sound quality through headphones is behind average, but that's my opinion. Customization of this phone is so far good. We have unlocked bootloader, TWRP, SuperSU root and Xposed. I hope that Nokia 3 can have some good Custom ROM. Performance in games are good. I play GTA:SA, Asphalt 8 without bugs in medium settings. Multitasking is ok, i can have 5 apps in background and no apps will be restarted.
I recommend you this phone, i think that it won't disappoint you.

Thanks for your replies!
redweaver said:
Might I ask, why do you need a phone with a compass sensor?
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I use a few astronomy apps regulary, those need e-compass/magnetometer to work. Also I'm a mapper and use a lot the GPS, GPS without compass is only half as useful. Being able to register where you were facing while taking a shot or registering a note is very useful in mapping, astronomy, hiking, etc.

XJeFX said:
Thanks for your replies!
I use a few astronomy apps regulary, those need e-compass/magnetometer to work. Also I'm a mapper and use a lot the GPS, GPS without compass is only half as useful. Being able to register where you were facing while taking a shot or registering a note is very useful in mapping, astronomy, hiking, etc.
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My advice is to buy TA-1032 variant which is European variant and have dual-sim because it have twrp and stock rom in case you bricked your phone.
Other variants are ok too, but only TA-1032 have twrp and stock rom at this moment. I hope that twrp and stock ROMs will be available for all variants.

I'm from argentina so I don't know wich variant i'm gonna find here... I know it is dual sim, but that's all i know about the nokia 3 they are selling here, EDIT: appearently the most common variant here is the TA-1028, very few sellers has it at this time that aren't even official stores and it's not that cheap, they are selling it here for USD 200-270. That's why i'm worried too because probably I can't get any local support.

XJeFX said:
I'm from argentina so I don't know wich variant i'm gonna find here... I know it is dual sim, but that's all i know about the nokia 3 they are selling here, EDIT: appearently the most common variant here is the TA-1028, very few sellers has it at this time that aren't even official stores and it's not that cheap, they are selling it here for USD 200-270. That's why i'm worried too because probably I can't get any local support.
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TA-1028 is single sim, TA-1038 will probably be the dual sim most common. I don't know if Amazon ships to Argentina, if they do and it doesn't cost too much, I think you can get the TA-1032 model there

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TA-1028 is single sim, TA-1038 will probably be the dual sim most common. I don't know if Amazon ships to Argentina, if they do and it doesn't cost too much, I think you can get the TA-1032 model there
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sellers says it has dual sim :/
Sadly I'm not willing to buy it outside my country because there are high chances that the postal office steal the package when it enters the country. Also import taxes adds up to 50-60% the price, so the risk is worthless. Easily I prefer to pay those USD 200-270 and be 100% sure I'm getting the phone. After all these troubles I need a really trustworthy phone.