Updates for the Kyocera Hydro Wave C6740N - Android General

Ok, if you're an owner of the Hydro Wave model from Kyocera, I think we all can agree that it is a nice phone. Being water proof, shock resistant, and still have decent enough software. However it is a bit buggy. There are a few kinks that need to be worked out. And can we get an OS update for Christ's sake? Had this phone a little over a year, still running 5.1. Glad we got a little bug update the other day!
But the point of this thread is so that we can get together and keep a discussion about the phone, finding new exploits, actually getting a good root, new attributes, abilities updates, whatever. If you are here, than you already know how much of a pain this phone is to research and find out any information on it. Especially when you go to root.
I hope to see you in the comments, maybe I can share a little bit of info with you, and hopefully you can teach me a few things. And please let's keep this a civil thread and stay on subject as much as you can.

What was in the update?
What was in the update?

Not exactly what they did. It said they were fixing a few bugs. But didn't give any explanation and it still runs 5.1

Have you or any one you know managed to get root?

Not for they hydro phone c6740. I've gained root access from KingRoot. But it wouldn't read superuser or BusyBox

Anybody ever give root to work for more than a little while?
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And if anybody knows how to root please let me know

Yeah let us all knoe please! Or even if you grt super user to work for just a little while. Long enough to flash a custom rom on it or something.

has anyone have a firmware that can be flash through fastboot?
or anyway to do a complete wipe and reinstall the whole software?

I can't believe there is no root method for this phone yet. My 8 year old loves his but it has mass bloatware.

Deleting Bloatware
Atlantisvip said:
I can't believe there is no root method for this phone yet. My 8 year old loves his but it has mass bloatware.
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You can delete bloatware... Just use kingroot (no restart), use kingroot (open), has its own tool, image attach.
You must use it with caution and under your responsibility
Is a root temporary, just reset to disable root.

Ch0nGu1 said:
You can delete bloatware... Just use kingroot (no restart), use kingroot (open), has its own tool, image attach.
You must use it with caution and under your responsibility
Is a root temporary, just reset to disable root.
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What version do you used?

zkar1011 said:
What version do you used?
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4.3.5

Is there a debloated version of the ROM that you can flash? I'm guessing this phone is never getting a marshmallow update.

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New to rooting - best/safest method for my phone?

Hi people, new to XDA, happy to be here.
I signed up so I could find out what the best/safest method is for rooting my SGS with my specific software version. By best, I mean most efficient, and by safest, I mean a method which retains all my data.
There are so many methods that I really don't know which one to choose. If you wish to simply link me to an existing thread, that's fine.
Attached is a screenshot of my phone's software specs.
Regards,
Nick
P.S When people talk about different methods for XXJVQ, XWJVP etc. are they referring to the Baseband version, or Kernel version/Build number, cause on my phone they're both different?
Welcome to XDA!
I do not own a SGS, however i can a\give you some advice. You can try going to the SGS forums to look for tools and guides. Keep in mind that Samsung devices use Odin to change Roms and stuff. Do you want to change your rom or just have root access? Either way you can retain your data by having backups.
You can backup your smses using apps such as sms backup form the market. contacts can be backed up with google.
Here's the SGS forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=665&order=desc
Also check if your version is i9000 or i9003 or any others. Just keep reading up and you'll get the idea
Good luck
Oh and they are refering to baseband. Kernel changes with the different roms.
Thanks for the prompt reply!
What do I do about backing up my apps?
droidoidoid said:
Hi people, new to XDA, happy to be here.
I signed up so I could find out what the best/safest method is for rooting my SGS with my specific software version. By best, I mean most efficient, and by safest, I mean a method which retains all my data.
There are so many methods that I really don't know which one to choose. If you wish to simply link me to an existing thread, that's fine.
Attached is a screenshot of my phone's software specs.
Regards,
Nick
P.S When people talk about different methods for XXJVQ, XWJVP etc. are they referring to the Baseband version, or Kernel version/Build number, cause on my phone they're both different?
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i used superoneclick to root my vodafone 845 succesfully it was completely safe i just had to enter bootloader mode and run the .bat file from the pc
here's the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
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droidoidoid said:
Thanks for the prompt reply!
What do I do about backing up my apps?
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try titanium backup you can restore/backup all of your apps/system apps
^ Cheers for this! I'm guessing Superoneclick is a program that simplifies the rooting process, but there's less learning involved?
I have Titanium Backup, however the issue is.... it looks as though the phone already has to be rooted for TB to work, but rooting the phone incorrectly could cause data loss if not backed up. Isn't this a catch 22? I could have it wrong though.
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^ Cheers for this! I'm guessing Superoneclick is a program that simplifies the rooting process, but there's less learning involved?
I have Titanium Backup, however the issue is.... it looks as though the phone already has to be rooted for TB to work, but rooting the phone incorrectly could cause data loss if not backed up. Isn't this a catch 22? I could have it wrong though.
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Yes, it simplifies the rooting process. Then again, why not try a custom rom by flashing through odin? Yes, theres a risk of losing your data. Theres a low chance though. good luck
I may as well update you guys.
Well, this is a little more technical than what I first thought, so I decided to do something simple to begin with - I used Odin to flash Gingerbread 2.3.4 into my phone. (I'm guessing you need to root your phone to flash a custom ROM, but not to flash the next version of the default Android OS like I just did, but correct me if I'm wrong here)
Anyway, the results are - I still have my contacts (cause they're on my sim) and media files, but my texts and free apps are gone. Why? Because I wrongly assumed that it would be the same as when I initially upgraded to Gingerbread through Kies (the official way). That is, all data is retained. The thing is, surely anything you download from the Market would be kept in your Google account, but obviously not.
Anyway, now that I have a feel for how Odin works, I'll go ahead do the root, followed by a custom ROM. I won't be using Superoneclick though, I like doing things the complicated way.
(to be honest I am a little pissed that my apps are gone, should've used MyBackupPro, a backup app that doesn't require root, but as always, I stumble upon these when it's too late)
okay then i just suggested you superoneclick because it was the safest and most convinient root method i ve ever used good luck rooting
Yay I'm rooted! Fun times! Didn't brick my phone or anything. Now begins the long journey of customising my phone as to how I want it. I guess a good place to start is to install MIUI.
droidoidoid said:
Yay I'm rooted! Fun times! Didn't brick my phone or anything. Now begins the long journey of customising my phone as to how I want it. I guess a good place to start is to install MIUI.
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have fun !
In response to my question...
"When people talk about different methods for XXJVQ, XWJVP etc. are they referring to the Baseband version, or Kernel version/Build number, cause on my phone they're both different?"
a guy on another forum said...
"They are talking about the Build Number and in your case its JVP. Baseband is your modem which basically is your service,battery life."
This conflicts with what you said about it. Can you clarify this for me?
Cheers

[Q] Another forced update

So I had my Verizon HTC One M8 rooted and that was enough for my needs. I didn't mess with it further.
Well then Verizon started pestering me with update notices for... what was it? 4.4.3? Anyways, I got sick of them and hit "OK" next thing I know my phones in a 1 to 2hr upgrade cycle with no warning. I was on call for my job! Then, when it came back all my root apps were disabled... you know the story.
So the only option to re-root it was sunshine.
Now I'm getting pestered with the same notices again to go to 4.4.4
They are really bad. I can't even unlock the phone. They are in your face and obnoxious. I can't get rid of them. I don't want to let Verizon make my phone even worse. Any advice that doesn't leave me shelling out $25? Can I call Verizon and pitch a fit? I DO NOT WANT THIS.
You can install a custom ROM and those popups are blocked automatically. I recommend the new Clean Rom
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thewagdy said:
You can install a custom ROM and those popups are blocked automatically. I recommend the new Clean Rom
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It is mostly stock and should be exactly what you need.
thewagdy said:
You can install a custom ROM and those popups are blocked automatically. I recommend the new Clean Rom
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It is mostly stock and should be exactly what you need.
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I cannot install a rom. I lost Root with the last update and do not have S-off. I didn't even know what S-off was until that update. It's extremely irritating to have to keep up on this nonsense just to own a smartphone.
Sunshine should have given you S-OFF. Also, you should be able to run Sunshine in the same phone again without paying again.
charliemopps said:
I cannot install a rom. I lost Root with the last update and do not have S-off. I didn't even know what S-off was until that update. It's extremely irritating to have to keep up on this nonsense just to own a smartphone.
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If you used Sunshine on 4.4.3 you are S-off and bootloader unlocked. If you currently have root you flashed a custom recovery and then SU, right?
So you have everything in place to just flash a rom and be done with it.
Scrosler's CleanROM is just like stock, but de-bloated of most of the VZW and some of the HTC bloatware.
If you want pure stock flash his stock rooted 4.4.3 rom. Nothing changed to the original firmware except it's rooted and the SD write protection removed.
No, I did not use sunshine.
It was the only option, I did not do it. I'm poor.
I was hoping there was some option to gain root without it. If not, I'm just screwed.
I am s-off and on Viper ROM and I am being pestered with the update as well. It even downloaded it for me without me knowing. Then it forced me to select a time to install it so I had to pick 12am so I have to figure out how to dodge this nonsense, i am waiting for the newe Viper to update to 4.4.4
LibertyMonger said:
I am s-off and on Viper ROM and I am being pestered with the update as well. It even downloaded it for me without me knowing. Then it forced me to select a time to install it so I had to pick 12am so I have to figure out how to dodge this nonsense, i am waiting for the newe Viper to update to 4.4.4
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Just flash this until the next update where that nag will be removed.
No more nags...
if you're still on 4.4. 3 use weak sauce to temporarilyroot then use a root explorer and delete your OTA updater files or rename them. and I'm not positive of this but from what I thought I understood it depends on your hardware version whether or not firewater will work and that is the free s off version.this is my first HTC device alsobut I am a root user so that is what I look for in the only way to have permanent forever root on an htc is to S OFF when you first get the devicethen it doesn't really matter what happens after that you can always flash su to get root on any new update after you flashing your recovery..
and just FYI no none of this is necessary just to own a smartphone only if you're trying to be smarter than your smartphone then in that case I guess you have to work for it ie free hotspot or IE ad blocker ect. and everybody here already understand those types of benefits involve maintenance and your own research and time especially with the latest devices. sorry is it just me butI had already read most of the m8 forum by the time my MA got here I researched very thirdly on which phone I even wanted to get which ushered me capability and S OFF or permanent root before I even purchased the phone and already knew the wrist before I even took it to the computer for root for the first time. good luck ..bTW if you do get temporary root and want to move or rename or delete the update file that you downloaded so it will not actually go through it is in. /cache/fuma . just search how to disable your OTA updater per the firmware you are on with and do while you are running your temp root.
charliemopps said:
They are really bad. I can't even unlock the phone. They are in your face and obnoxious. I can't get rid of them. I don't want to let Verizon make my phone even worse. Any advice that doesn't leave me shelling out $25? Can I call Verizon and pitch a fit? I DO NOT WANT THIS.
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It sounds like smartphones may not be for you, get a old dinosaur phone and you won't have to "deal" with updates.
What do you think pitching a fit to a CS rep will do? They don't have some magic button to stop your phone from receiving updates.
Either take the time and learn more about flashing and rooting and do it yourself or pay the people that have taken the time to figure out how and ask thoughtful questions to other people and get help along the way.
Advice: Sell your phone on Swappa and get something that's already flashed with cyanogen, or accept the update and suffer through the horrible indignity of allowing your phone to be updated to 4.4.4 and getting the stock flashlight that should have been there already.

Just got a new Z3 and want to root

So I just got my new Sony Xperia Z3 but unfortunately it's D6603 model so no 32GB goodness which means I probably need Link2SD as I'll end up with probably about 10GB user available storage after all the updated which means I need to root.
I haven't even turned the phone on yet, it's still sitting there charging, but let's assume for a moment that it's not yet on Lollipop and still running KitKat which should mean I have various easy rooting methods at my disposal, right?
So what I'm asking is what would be the easiest (and most universal/in other words covering the most versions) root I could use.
I don't care about custom this or whatever, I want to keep my phone as stock as possible, I just want to be able to use Link2SD and maybe Titanium Backup, so if possible I'd prefer not to add a custom recovery or mess with anything beyond getting root access for those 2 apps.
I know I will have to check the bootloader first (I assume it's already unlocked though given the phone it's an international version that isn't carrier locked but that's a different problem anyways). But after that is there a recommended one-click root to use that alters as little as possible and covers as many android versions as possible? Or something almost as easy?
I don't want easy because my technical knowledge is lacking by the way, I want easy because the fewer steps there are the less I can screw up and I'm terrified of bricking the phone....so terrified I've resisted rooting my previous two android phones even after getting replacement phones, but I really need Link2SD now.
Should I use Kingroot and then replace the king Super User app with normal SuperuserSU?
Can I still keep root by doing a PC update instead of an OTA one?
SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Should I use Kingroot and then replace the king Super User app with normal SuperuserSU?
Can I still keep root by doing a PC update instead of an OTA one?
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Search forums. You can have Z3 rooted on both locked and unlocked bootloaders or or install custom fw.
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use kingroot with chainfire's supersu
ondrejvaroscak said:
Search forums. You can have Z3 rooted on both locked and unlocked bootloaders or or install custom fw.
Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk
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I know there are many options, I was hoping to be pointed to what someone considers the ideal easy way. My very problem was that I was inundated by potential rooting options but many either modified more than I would have liked or some seemed suspect/too good to be true (no way there are 30 accepted one-click root programs for this phone) so I'd been hoping someone would help me find the right tree in the forest of options I was looking at.
Anyways today I finally turned the phone on and to my great dismay found that it was already fully up to date (well our local network OTA updates may be a revision or 2 behind international updates) and running Lollipop 5.02 and I gave up all hope then there but Kingroot looked so easy that I decided to try it anyways and to my great surprise and tremendous delight it worked perfectly. Downloaded rootchecker and I'm fully rooted. Tried Link2SD and I'm extremely pleased to say that I have all of Asphalt 8 - Airborne's massive bulk as well as Spiderman Unlimited taking up space on my SD card and most of my user available internal storage remains unused.
I think I'm going to stay with KingRoot's app though and not switch to SuperSU, I don't want there to be any chance of losing this root access (I know it shouldn't happen but I desperately need Link2SD to stay happy so I don't want to rock the boat in any way).
So I guess this thread can be closed now.
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use kingroot with chainfire's supersu
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Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).
SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).
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I would be more paranoid about using quite unknown app instead of rock solid and proven SuperSU..
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ondrejvaroscak said:
I would be more paranoid about using quite unknown app instead of rock solid and proven SuperSU..
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I don't have anything sensitive on my phone, I'd prefer they didn't spy on me of course but as far as I'm concerned they can have every shred of info they want. All I need is root access for Link2SD, I don't need the rock-solid and proven SuperSU for that and I don't want any more features incase that offers more.
Since KingRoot has given my phone a chance at a decent life I'm willing to trust them until being shown info to the contrary (and I mean more than just them knowing my IMEI number).
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Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).
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Easy bro, relax la, do you want to stick with kingroot super user ? its ok but if u flash chainfire's super su, u can uninstall that kinguser
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Easy bro, relax la, do you want to stick with kingroot super user ? its ok but if u flash chainfire's super su, u can uninstall that kinguser
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Besides having the more trusted app what would I gain from SuperSU? Does it to do more? Besides the engrish the Super User app from Kingroot seems fine.
Can SuperSU also unroot my phone again (should I need to warranty claim) and also try to keep the root permanent even when updates happen (which Kingroot apparently tries to do even if it likely won't work)?
Oh by the way one more question with regards to rooting. Back when I had my Xperia neo apparently OTA updates would make you lose root but doing an update via the Sony PC companion program could maintain the root...is that still the case? Or do I lose root no matter what now?
Pc companion is a worthless pos. Believe me. Look for alts, anything that works with android to your liking. You'll be much happier. Kingroot is not needed AT ALL. Plus I don't like the fact it calls home. Reminds me of the latest lenovo fiasco where programs within the bios are calling home-wtf! Use the tested working giefroot, flashtool, xzdr stuff. My 2cents

Is it worth Rooting anymore?

1. I noticed exploits are being patched left and right.
2. Knox is easy to trip now.
3. There are no custom firmwares anymore for Samsung phones.
4. Samsung requests the removal of links on this board constantly.
5. Can't use Samsung pay with a knox tripped phone.
6. Downgrading is blocked in case you have an upgraded phone.
Is this what Samsung forums have come to now? Are there phones out there that you don't have to deal with Knox?
It seems people don't really care anymore about Samsung phones?
nafeasonto said:
1. I noticed exploits are being patched left and right.
2. Knox is easy to trip now.
3. There are no custom firmwares anymore for Samsung phones.
4. Samsung requests the removal of links on this board constantly.
5. Can't use Samsung pay with a knox tripped phone.
6. Downgrading is blocked in case you have an upgraded phone.
Is this what Samsung forums have come to now? Are there phones out there that you don't have to deal with Knox?
It seems people don't really care anymore about Samsung phones?
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Your question has been asked by many people on multiple forums. Samsung's flagship is great as is, however the software has a few bugs that bother everyone which is why we root. Samsung built knox so there products would appeal to corporate customers. That is why it exists. To say there are no custom firm wares is false. Just read the development forums. Root is not an absolute must, but it is getting harder as time goes on
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Root is not an absolute must, but it is getting harder as time goes on
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That doesn't make me hopeful.
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That doesn't make me hopeful.
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I obtained root just to prove to myself it can be done. It is not the most important thing In the world. That said, I do understand your perspective. I appreciate the root apps and custom ROMs, and each year root access I harder and harder. Even without root you can appreciate any android device
I stopped rooting just because my Barclay's bank app doesn't work on rooted phones and it's very convenient for me. Also stock android got a lot better and I like it as it is. Also you have theme engines build it now so you can customize your phone without rooting. All that said of course there is some exceptional cases that root is needed, like recently with the new S6 there is no option to choose 2G only network mode on stock rom and I don't know if there is a no root solution for it
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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-_- 5.1.1 is perfectly/easily rootable just by flashing a custom kernel. And if you looked in the development forums you'd see there's plenty of devs that care as there is plenty of rom and kernel development going on.
hamstrman said:
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
Two years ago I would not have dreamed of using an unrooted Android phone, but Android has come a long way now. I have been using my old Note 3 and my current S6 unrooted and I'm not missing root at all. Most of the reasons why I would root are available now without root.
I also enjoy unprecendented stability on my phones. No more flashing untested amateur stuff that fixes one thing and breaks 10 other things. So the answer to your question for me is, no, it's not worth rooting anymore.
drock212 said:
-_- 5.1.1 is perfectly/easily rootable just by flashing a custom kernel. And if you looked in the development forums you'd see there's plenty of devs that care as there is plenty of rom and kernel development going on.
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I appreciate your response. I have been looking at the development forums. I've been reading all kinds of threads and I guess I just find it daunting. I'm kind of in my own head about how I'm going to do all this and it SEEMS there are so many restrictions on what will work with what (moreso than used to be), incompatibilities and laser-focused restrictions.
I typically feel confident about these things, but when I start reading the various threads, I feel like a n00b. I have to ask because, as you've seen here, I convinced myself out of the possibility of rooting.
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Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Good to know. Possibly. Thing is, I haven't activated my phone yet (and I just got it 5 hours ago) because I know it will deactivate my old one and I'm still doing Titanium Backup to Dropbox. And I'm just incredibly terrified that I will lose the ability to do something that requires my old phone to be active. I don't actually know what that would be, but that's just me.
So, I don't know what variant I have yet. I will report back on that. I should be ready to activate by tomorrow morning.
And thanks for the response. Whether you think I'm an idiot or not (goes for you too drock212), I'm glad I'm not alone in figuring this out.
hamstrman said:
And thanks for the response. Whether you think I'm an idiot or not (goes for you too drock212), I'm glad I'm not alone in figuring this out.
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I do not like to ever use the word 'idiot' on XDA.
Newbie is the more appropriate word to use on these forums since 'idiot' is disrespectful.
Also, you sound more like the kinda guy who is not new to Android, just new to the Galaxy S6.
hamstrman said:
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Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
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KNOX & many other apps can be made non-functioning with the Google Playstore app:
"Package Disabler Pro".
It is very easy to follow or change any of their suggested recommendations.
Settings can be saved or restorded to or from .xml files. Password protection is possible.
Worthwhile.
Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Hey! I have version 5.0.2 on my phone! Fantastic. Now I just have to turn off auto updating.
Update: My phone is not supported by PingPongRoot... G920PVPU1AOC9.
M%#$&^@#r F*($&!er!
hamstrman said:
Hey! I have version 5.0.2 on my phone! Fantastic. Now I just have to turn off auto updating.
Update: My phone is not supported by PingPongRoot... G920PVPU1AOC9.
M%#$&^@#r F*($&!er!
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Did you try using odin to revert back to an earlier build?
Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Snowby123 said:
Did you try using odin to revert back to an earlier build?
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No... I... feel really dumb right now. Rooting has always been so easy. My build just WAS fine.
I will go find ODIN and a tutorial on that.
Update: Not finding anything remotely like that on the Internet, but will search these forums.
Edit 2: Not finding anything. I assume I'm searching incorrect terms. And the PingPongRoot thread is closed because people couldn't stay on topic!
Also wondering if downgrading my build will trip KNOX, for which PPR is specifically made to avoid.
Found this on rooting the sprint s6
http://techbeasts.com/2015/04/27/install-twrp-recovery-root-sprint-galaxy-s6-g920p/
hamstrman said:
No... I... feel really dumb right now. Rooting has always been so easy. My build just WAS fine.
I will go find ODIN and a tutorial on that.
Update: Not finding anything remotely like that on the Internet, but will search these forums.
Edit 2: Not finding anything. I assume I'm searching incorrect terms. And the PingPongRoot thread is closed because people couldn't stay on topic!
Also wondering if downgrading my build will trip KNOX, for which PPR is specifically made to avoid.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This is the thread to follow if you want to downgrade.
Restoring the stock firmware WILL NOT trip KNOX.
It is true that the PingPongRoot thread is closed, but you still can sideload the apk.
Snowby123 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This is the thread to follow if you want to downgrade.
Restoring the stock firmware WILL NOT trip KNOX.
It is true that the PingPongRoot thread is closed, but you still can sideload the apk.
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This is great. I had found this thread, but didn't know if it applied.
And I already installed PPR, it just told me when I clicked "Get Root" that my build wasn't supported. Is there some close cousin of my build that would be "correct" to change to? Like the closest build name?
I have: G920PVPU1AOC9
On the list of approved builds, I see, for example, G920PVPU1AOCF.
hamstrman said:
This is great. I had found this thread, but didn't know if it applied.
And I already installed PPR, it just told me when I clicked "Get Root" that my build wasn't supported. Is there some close cousin of my build that would be "correct" to change to? Like the closest build name?
I have: G920PVPU1AOC9
On the list of approved builds, I see, for example, G920PVPU1AOCF.
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Since your build number is for the Sprint variant, downgrade to the earliest build there is for the sprint variant.
If it is listed on the PingPongRoot thread, install it. The one you just mentioned looks like the one to use. Try it.
An update: Worked beautifully. Laterally changed my build from G920PVPU1AOC9 to G920PVPU1AOCF - success!
Installed PingPongRoot - success!
And everything followed... Titanium Backup, Lucky Patcher, etc.
Last part is kind of important, though. Tried to install Modded Google Play Store. Failed. Did research and found out I need Xposed to install it.
So I install Xposed (I already had a backup). It tells me my framework is outdated. So I do some more digging and find out I need a special version of Xposed for Lollipop, which I get and install. There's a .zip that I have to flash via recovery in order to make Xposed work which would make Lucky Patcher work which would make the Store work.
Flashing the zip requires TWRP or CWM recovery. Can I install either of those without tripping KNOX? This is getting way too complicated. I mean, logically, I would think that since I have PingPongRoot already, that I'm good.

Is there a reliable form of root yet?

I'm considering jumping to the S7. Is there a reliable, working root yet?
reliable yes
working yes
some issues yes
issues can be remedied for most people
sacnotsack said:
reliable yes
working yes
some issues yes
issues can be remedied for most people
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What kind of issues? I'm getting mine tomorrow and I would like to root pretty much right away. I've been through the threads and didn't see much as far as issues.
metalfan78 said:
What kind of issues? I'm getting mine tomorrow and I would like to root pretty much right away. I've been through the threads and didn't see much as far as issues.
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overheating, lag, extreme batter drain, but these can be fixed by setting the cpu governor to on-demand or interactive. those were the only issues I personally experienced, but was easily fixed.
occasionally I will have bad lag, but after a reboot all is well. speaking of boots....boot time is horrendous.
Well, the lag is what I'm trying to get rid of, which is what I'm currently getting with my LG G5. So, I guess switching to the S7 won't make much difference.
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Sounds fixable. I think I'll go stock for a day or so then root it.
I have read that if you freeze the bloat, that helps with battery and lag issues as well.
So, from what I've read, it has to do with the modified boot.img. I really just want to restore all my stuff from titanium backup
Maybe rooting isn't even worth it right now. Unless I root, restore, then flash stock boot.img, if possible.
metalfan78 said:
So, from what I've read, it has to do with the modified boot.img. I really just want to restore all my stuff from titanium backup
Maybe rooting isn't even worth it right now. Unless I root, restore, then flash stock boot.img, if possible.
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Not really worth it... there are some workarounds. But, you will never get rid of the lag. Stay on stock until there is either a new root method or unlocked bootloader.
EDIT: Echoe Rom is out for the SMG930T and SMG935T !!!!!! No lag at all
Thats what I plan on doing for now
metalfan78 said:
Thats what I plan on doing for now
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Flash the U firmware. Removes the bloat.
Is the bloat the only cause of the lag?
metalfan78 said:
Is the bloat the only cause of the lag?
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No. The eng boot will cause a little lag and more battery drain than compared to stock.
lvpre said:
No. The eng boot will cause a little lag and more battery drain than compared to stock.
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Ok, that's what I was reading. I think I'll wait it out a bit. I've had the phone for 24 hrs and that's the longest I've gone without rooting in like 7 years, lol.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0yzuMcMjykeV0wwYnVmbmp0SnM
download this it will help with the CPU , lag , wifi not saving, battery drain, can log in to snapchat, debloat,.. etc
You'll brick your s7
Looks guys, if you knew anything about locked bootloaders, or rooting at all, its not as simple as an odin flash then a root.bat execution and your done. It might root for a while as did mine, then security will catch up with the phone. C'mon so many people are going to have bricked phones because of these fake postings.
I tried it for fun, knew it would brick the t-mobile S7, and it did. I just wanted to be 100% positive before I wrote this. Don't root your U.S. S7, it is impossible and will lead to nothing but problems and stuck boot because of google/samsung security. They went as far as blocking the google account registered with the S7 on google at the time. So think before you just odin then root.bat, your opening more than just a door, trust me.
On top of that, non of the so called odin flashable recovery firmwares are real. They just lead to advertising websites that collect cookie data and make you click links you don't want to click. Be advised.
Of course advertising and spam companies are going to take advantage of people like the android rooting community, who know they are taking a risk rooting in the first place, so you cannot complain when you get malware from these sites, because technically your doing something your not supposed to. Don't just go clicking random downloads because they sound legit. 90% are not.
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If I am wrong about the recovery file, or a flashable image file that actually roots the phone (custom recovery TWRP, cwm anything) please prove me wrong. Root is not root without the recovery. Don't try to root any android phone without an available custom recovery and legit recovery files at hand.
The S7 has a locked bootloader for a reason, attempting root without a custom recovery available to work with is plain stupid.
boobteg2 said:
Looks guys, if you knew anything about locked bootloaders, or rooting at all, its not as simple as an odin flash then a root.bat execution and your done. It might root for a while as did mine, then security will catch up with the phone. C'mon so many people are going to have bricked phones because of these fake postings.
I tried it for fun, knew it would brick the t-mobile S7, and it did. I just wanted to be 100% positive before I wrote this. Don't root your U.S. S7, it is impossible and will lead to nothing but problems and stuck boot because of google/samsung security. They went as far as blocking the google account registered with the S7 on google at the time. So think before you just odin then root.bat, your opening more than just a door, trust me.
On top of that, non of the so called odin flashable recovery firmwares are real. They just lead to advertising websites that collect cookie data and make you click links you don't want to click. Be advised.
Of course advertising and spam companies are going to take advantage of people like the android rooting community, who know they are taking a risk rooting in the first place, so you cannot complain when you get malware from these sites, because technically your doing something your not supposed to. Don't just go clicking random downloads because they sound legit. 90% are not.
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If I am wrong about the recovery file, or a flashable image file that actually roots the phone (custom recovery TWRP, cwm anything) please prove me wrong. Root is not root without the recovery. Don't try to root any android phone without an available custom recovery and legit recovery files at hand.
The S7 has a locked bootloader for a reason, attempting root without a custom recovery available to work with is plain stupid.
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The US models are able to be rooted. You are not well informed if you believe otherwise. I highly doubt you "bricked" your phone, probably just a boot loop or stuck at a screen. it can be fixed.
The engineering boot is how we are able to obtain root. There are a ton of details on how it works, so I am not going to go into details.
please don't post misinformation, it only confuses the ones trying to learn.
-sent from my Rooted and stable Tmo S7
sacnotsack said:
The US models are able to be rooted. You are not well informed if you believe otherwise. I highly doubt you "bricked" your phone, probably just a boot loop or stuck at a screen. it can be fixed.
The engineering boot is how we are able to obtain root. There are a ton of details on how it works, so I am not going to go into details.
please don't post misinformation, it out lyrics confuses the ones trying to learn.
-sent from my Rooted and stable Tmo S7
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You are right... there are working root methods... that works flawlessly with a few tweaks... In regards to the bricking, The firmware I've had the most issues with is PG1 but it is a simple fix, just disable or block security updates with titanium backup ... or alternatively you can install Echoe Rom which debloats, deodex's and deknox's. I've had zero issues with this rom. No bricks no boot loops and no lag. I hope this helps
boobteg2 said:
Looks guys, if you knew anything about locked bootloaders, or rooting at all, its not as simple as an odin flash then a root.bat execution and your done. It might root for a while as did mine, then security will catch up with the phone. C'mon so many people are going to have bricked phones because of these fake postings.
I tried it for fun, knew it would brick the t-mobile S7, and it did. I just wanted to be 100% positive before I wrote this. Don't root your U.S. S7, it is impossible and will lead to nothing but problems and stuck boot because of google/samsung security. They went as far as blocking the google account registered with the S7 on google at the time. So think before you just odin then root.bat, your opening more than just a door, trust me.
On top of that, non of the so called odin flashable recovery firmwares are real. They just lead to advertising websites that collect cookie data and make you click links you don't want to click. Be advised.
Of course advertising and spam companies are going to take advantage of people like the android rooting community, who know they are taking a risk rooting in the first place, so you cannot complain when you get malware from these sites, because technically your doing something your not supposed to. Don't just go clicking random downloads because they sound legit. 90% are not.
---------- Post added at 11:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:39 AM ----------
If I am wrong about the recovery file, or a flashable image file that actually roots the phone (custom recovery TWRP, cwm anything) please prove me wrong. Root is not root without the recovery. Don't try to root any android phone without an available custom recovery and legit recovery files at hand.
The S7 has a locked bootloader for a reason, attempting root without a custom recovery available to work with is plain stupid.
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It may not be the prettiest root, but it is a working root none-the-less. Other than the eng boot lag issues (which can be mitigated mostly through things like Govtuner, etc.), all apps that require root permissions work fine as intended. Bootloops can be avoided by disabling security policy services. Other than the random reboot every now and again, I'm running strong since the day root came out.
boobteg2 said:
Looks guys, if you knew anything about locked bootloaders, or rooting at all, its not as simple as an odin flash then a root.bat execution and your done. It might root for a while as did mine, then security will catch up with the phone. C'mon so many people are going to have bricked phones because of these fake postings.
I tried it for fun, knew it would brick the t-mobile S7, and it did. I just wanted to be 100% positive before I wrote this. Don't root your U.S. S7, it is impossible and will lead to nothing but problems and stuck boot because of google/samsung security. They went as far as blocking the google account registered with the S7 on google at the time. So think before you just odin then root.bat, your opening more than just a door, trust me.
On top of that, non of the so called odin flashable recovery firmwares are real. They just lead to advertising websites that collect cookie data and make you click links you don't want to click. Be advised.
Of course advertising and spam companies are going to take advantage of people like the android rooting community, who know they are taking a risk rooting in the first place, so you cannot complain when you get malware from these sites, because technically your doing something your not supposed to. Don't just go clicking random downloads because they sound legit. 90% are not.
---------- Post added at 11:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:39 AM ----------
If I am wrong about the recovery file, or a flashable image file that actually roots the phone (custom recovery TWRP, cwm anything) please prove me wrong. Root is not root without the recovery. Don't try to root any android phone without an available custom recovery and legit recovery files at hand.
The S7 has a locked bootloader for a reason, attempting root without a custom recovery available to work with is plain stupid.
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Wow talk about uninformed. I've been running a rooted Galaxy S7 for just about a month now. I had rooted even earlier then that but I didn't know about the security policy updating. Yeah, security caught up but it didn't brick the phone. Just reflash the stock files and everything is fine. Now that I've been able to freeze the security update policy I haven't had a problem.

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