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[Discussion] Downgrading From 4.4.4

I'm making this thread so we can all put our heads together to figure out what we can do, what ways there are to get back to stock.. Just things people have done to restore back to stock.
Everyone having this issue people post here please as it will keep the Q&A thread clean.
At the moment I am encounter the issue, although I am not in a bootloop. I had a Official Firmware 4.4.2 installed that had been updated to 4.4.4.
Everything was working properly, but I flashed the latest CM11 Nightly. I had forgotten to backup my stock.
When I try to restore a stock firmware it Fails on partition so I didn't Want to chance flashing anything else in case I bricked my phone
At the moment my phones living off a CM11 TWRP backup which isn't ideal :/
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I can share a 4.4.2 cmw backup but my net is slow as fk. I successfully downgraded using cmw backup.I think there is some problem with the mount points of the stock . I had this prob of not able to format or write using recovery and fastboot in my Chinese s4 clone but I formatted all partitions using the flash tool that I had and than I was able to flash ROM. It occurred because I had given wrong mount points in the update script of the ROM that I had previously flashed
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xXx~~~SHLOK~~~xXx said:
I can share a 4.4.2 cmw backup but my net is slow as fk. I successfully downgraded using cmw backup.I think there is some problem with the mount points of the stock . I had this prob of not able to format or write using recovery and fastboot in my Chinese s4 clone but I formatted all partitions using the flash tool that I had and than I was able to flash ROM. It occurred because I had given wrong mount points in the update script of the ROM that I had previously flashed
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Would a twrp backup work the same?
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Clarkiieh said:
Would a twrp backup work the same?
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It should

[Q] Backup won't restore.

So I installed the lateat CM12 nightly, wasn't really impressed yet and went to go restore my backup and once it's done restoring, it get stuck at the bootscreen animation. Just keeps going and going abs going. I used the latest cwm touch recovery as CM12 is not compatible with MultiROM. I would just flash the factory img back but my computer decided to it doesn't ever want to recognize adb avid fastboot on Linux.
Anyone know where I can find a flashable zip for the factory 5.0.1 ROM? Any help would be appreciated!

Try googling Nexus 5 factory image...

Here's a flashable 5.0 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...-android-4-4-3-ktu84m-rooted-busybox-t2557523

Niflheimer said:
Here's a flashable 5.0 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...-android-4-4-3-ktu84m-rooted-busybox-t2557523
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Now I'm assuming I'd have to unroot it and flash stock recovery and lock the bootloader to get it to update to 5.0.1?

No, it's flashable in your custom recovery. It's 5.0 though
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Yeap , ota needs stock recovery. Also , switch to twrp since cwm isn't playing nice with L.

jd1639 said:
No, it's flashable in your custom recovery. It's 5.0 though
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I was talking about the 5.0.1 update but thanks.

Niflheimer said:
Yeap , ota needs stock recovery. Also , switch to twrp since cwm isn't playing nice with L.
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I'm on the stock ROM you linked too, stock recovery, and unrooted but, when I get the update for 5.0.1 and try and install it, I get an error. Do I need to relock my boatloader?

asd87 said:
I'm on the stock ROM you linked too, stock recovery, and unrooted but, when I get the update for 5.0.1 and try and install it, I get an error. Do I need to relock my boatloader?
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You're on a custom Rom. The ota isn't going to work. And you don't need to relock your bootloader. If you can afford to wipe your data download the 5.0.1 factory image. Extract it and use the flash-all.bat
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jd1639 said:
You're on a custom Rom. The ota isn't going to work. And you don't need to relock your bootloader. If you can afford to wipe your data download the 5.0.1 factory image. Extract it and use the flash-all.bat
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My computer is Linux, and adb and fastboot for whatever reason unknown to me, won't install. That's why I asked for a zip file of the factory image. Thanks for the help though.

asd87 said:
My computer is Linux, and adb and fastboot for whatever reason unknown to me, won't install. That's why I asked for a zip file of the factory image. Thanks for the help though.
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Well, unfortunately, there isn't a 5.0.1 flashable rom available right now. If you can't get fastboot to work on your Linux machine you're kind of sol as you need to be 100% stock to get the ota to work. That means stock recovery in your case. Google recovery zip collection xda. There's a custom recovery flashable stock recovery there.
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jd1639 said:
Well, unfortunately, there isn't a 5.0.1 flashable rom available right now. If you can't get fastboot to work on your Linux machine you're kind of sol as you need to be 100% stock to get the ota to work. That means stock recovery in your case. Google recovery zip collection xda. There's a custom recovery flashable stock recovery there.
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I have the stock 5.0 recovery that I installed through Flashify. I'll barrow a windows computer or something lol

asd87 said:
I have the stock 5.0 recovery that I installed through Flashify. I'll barrow a windows computer or something lol
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I'd work on getting adb/fastboot working on your Linux machine. You're going to need it in the long run.
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jd1639 said:
I'd work on getting adb/fastboot working on your Linux machine. You're going to need it in the long run.
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I've spent hours trying to get it work one night. I'll do some note searching for more advice and again thanks.

jd1639 said:
I'd work on getting adb/fastboot working on your Linux machine. You're going to need it in the long run.
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Did some more digging, got it install, and flashed the factory img for 5.0.1 and twrp recovery then superSU through twrp.
Mods please lock the thread thanks.

Get wugfreshes Toolbox. It has access to all factory images. Some people are not fans of "one click solutions" but this has never let me down.
There's a flushable zip on here also. Put it in a search in the app and you should come across it. It IS the full version.

Did you ever find out why the CWM restore led to getting stuck on boot animation??
Just ran into this last night. Tried restoring 2 different CWM backups and both got stuck on boot animation.
I eventually got a new ROM flashed. Going to try TWRP recovery I suppose.
I know I never had this problem with 4.4, this was the first time I have restored a LP ROM..

one7dchevy said:
Did you ever find out why the CWM restore led to getting stuck on boot animation??
Just ran into this last night. Tried restoring 2 different CWM backups and both got stuck on boot animation.
I eventually got a new ROM flashed. Going to try TWRP recovery I suppose.
I know I never had this problem with 4.4, this was the first time I have restored a LP ROM..
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My guess would be; cwm hasn't been optimized for Lollipop. Cyanogen has just recently started working on 5.0 and they probably haven't touched the recovery too much. But that's just my guess.

asd87 said:
My guess would be; cwm hasn't been optimized for Lollipop. Cyanogen has just recently started working on 5.0 and they probably haven't touched the recovery too much. But that's just my guess.
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Yea figured something like that.
Got TWRP installed, will try to update after my next nandroid restore so that any old CWM users will know..

I want to update, but it boots to TWRP recovery.

I am rooted, and I have a nandroid backup of my stock rom (Android 5.0). When I restore it, I get the 5.0.1 update. It downloads the update, but when my phone restarts to install, it boots up to TWRP recovery and it wouldnt install the update. How can I bypass the TWRP recovery so the update install? Thanks in advance.
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Skunk2 DC said:
I am rooted, and I have a nandroid backup of my stock rom (Android 5.0). When I restore it, I get the 5.0.1 update. It downloads the update, but when my phone restarts to install, it boots up to TWRP recovery and it wouldnt install the update. How can I bypass the TWRP recovery so the update install? Thanks in advance.
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You can't. You have to be 100% stock recovery, system, kernel, and radio and unrooted for the ota to work.
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Why do you want to apply an OTA when you have a custom recovery anyways? Just flash system.img and boot.img.

Updating TWRP

Currently on TekHd. I want to order update TWRP. What would be the process to do this without resetting everything?

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Currently on TekHd. I want to order update TWRP. What would be the process to do this without resetting everything?
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Why do you want to update twrp when there is nothing wrong with it?
If you do update twrp to a newer version it would not reset anything.
Good luck,
Have a great day!

I'd also like to move onto 3.0.0.0 because MTP does not work on 2.8.7.1. I have tried everything and am unable to move anything off the phone in TWRP.

jkeith1 said:
Currently on TekHd. I want to order update TWRP. What would be the process to do this without resetting everything?
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Nothing will be reset. Just download the version for your device in .IMG format and flash it in TWRP or via Odin. I have no issues with 3.0 and have been using it since it became available.
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Download Flashify via play store, download TWRP IMG and flash via Flashify. Note be sure to select recovery IMG not boot IMG. Done!
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Here you go:
https://dl.twrp.me/noblelte/
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Nandroid backup to PC

Hi. I have an S5 16 GB. I am planning to flash other country's stock rom to solve the problem I'm having. But there is a problem. I have CWM recovery and the size for backup is too much. I don't have enough that space on my sdcard. Is there a way to backup to PC via CWM recovery? Or other way?

But, if you flash a stock firmware with Odin you change the recovery to the stock recovery so the backup will be useless
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The obvious thing to do, would be to free some space. However if you can't, you could try installing TWRP recovery, which compresses the backups so they don't take that much space. Also, if ik not mistaken (but I may be) cwm allows you to save the backup to your internal storage. So if you have more free space available on your device, than your SD card and cwm allows to save your backups to the internal memory (at least TWRP does) you could make a backup, then transfer it to your PC. Then flash whatever you want to flash, then reinstall cwm (because it will be replaced from stick recovery) and finally tranfer the backup back to your phone

joe2k01 said:
But, if you flash a stock firmware with Odin you change the recovery to the stock recovery so the backup will be useless
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But I can flash custom recovery even after flash a stock firmware right?

karasahin said:
But I can flash custom recovery even after flash a stock firmware right?
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Oh yes, but if you flash another country stock firmware the mount point changes probably, and I'm not sure that you can restore your backup
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giannism13 said:
The obvious thing to do, would be to free some space. However if you can't, you could try installing TWRP recovery, which compresses the backups so they don't take that much space.
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I might install TWRP too. I have one question though. Does it backup everything right? So I suppose I can backup musics, photos and videos to my PC and delete them from the phone after. These are probably taking the most space. Will it work this way?

Yes
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karasahin said:
I might install TWRP too. I have one question though. Does it backup everything right? So I suppose I can backup musics, photos and videos to my PC and delete them from the phone after. These are probably taking the most space. Will it work this way?
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No it doesn't backup photos and videos, but it is in every way better than cwm

giannism13 said:
No it doesn't backup photos and videos, but it is in every way better than cwm
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But he can makes a backup of the photo in the PC and after restore it
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joe2k01 said:
Oh yes, but if you flash another country stock firmware the mount point changes probably, and I'm not sure that you can restore your backup
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Understood. If flashing another country stock firmware solves my problem then I won't restore anything from my old firmware except musics, photos and videos. But if flashing another country stock firmware doesn't help to solve my problem either, then I could roll back to my old firmware and restore it. I think this will be OK. Of course I still need to find a way to backup to PC.

karasahin said:
Understood. If flashing another country stock firmware solves my problem then I won't restore anything from my old firmware except musics, photos and videos. But if flashing another country stock firmware doesn't help to solve my problem either, then I could roll back to my old firmware and restore it. I think this will be OK. Of course I still need to find a way to backup to PC.
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Read my first post again, I edited

For the data backup try to use adb
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giannism13 said:
Also, if ik not mistaken (but I may be) cwm allows you to save the backup to your internal storage. So if you have more free space available on your device, than your SD card and cwm allows to save your backups to the internal memory (at least TWRP does) you could make a backup, then transfer it to your PC. Then flash whatever you want to flash, then reinstall cwm (because it will be replaced from stick recovery) and finally tranfer the backup back to your phone
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OK, time to free some space then
joe2k01 said:
For the data backup try to use adb
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Does it work like Nandroid backup? I mean does it backup everything?

The adb backup will backups all your data (application, ecc..)
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joe2k01 said:
The adb backup will backups all your data (application, ecc..)
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It looks like a bit complicated and some say it is like an experimental program for its backup feature.

karasahin said:
It looks like a bit complicated and some say it is like an experimental program for its backup feature.
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I use adb regularly and it's not difficult to use , it's a terminal tool, try it
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joe2k01 said:
I use adb regularly and it's not difficult to use , it's a terminal tool, try it
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Any article links please that can ease my doing?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351 ,you can also visit the official page
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Flashing another country ROM didn't solve my problem either so I am going to use my old firmware.
I have a backup for my old firmware but I don't know how to proceed. Do I need to flash the old ROM first, and then recover via CWM recovery?

It's better if you first flash your stock firmware, then flash the CWM and finally flash the backup. You can do this only if your backup is in CWM backup format.