This probably will be strange question, but I need to try...
My company is using the 3rd party app for access emails from outside network. (you need to have private server inside company, then you will not be able to test it). Issue is that this app does not work on some Custom ROMs.
The developer of this app stated, that app will not work if SuperSU or eXposted is installed and how detection is done is their know-how, so they will not say how it is done. I would be fine with this answer if it would be true.
Here is why I do not believe it is true:
> The app works on any Android 4.4 custom ROM, does not matter if it was rooted or SuperSU was installed
> The app works on any Android 5.0 custom ROM, does not matter if it was rooted or SuperSU was installed
> The app works on some Android 5.1 custom ROMs, but I was not able to figure out why. It work on rooted CM12.1 with SuperSU installed or rooted @temasek Temasek ROM, but it does NOT work on the AICP / SlimLP / Resurection ROMs which all of them include SuperSU
Now I´m on the start line again with Android 6... to find on which ROM the app will work or not...
I already tested these:
> app works on CM13, but this ROM is not so friendly as I used to, I miss a lot of features there
> app works on @temasek Temasek ROM, but almost every second app I try start it FC, so not suitable for use yet
> app does NOT work on @jgcaap [ROM][6.0] CyanogenMod 13.0 Builds [LAG FREE][2015/12/04], ROM not rooted... it required SuperSU to be installed
> app does NOT work on @danieldmm [ROM][CM13][Android 6.0] TugaPower 14.0, ROM not rooted... it required SuperSU to be installed
So, my question is: How the root/SuperSU is handeled by Android 6? I´m not developer, so maybe I´m asking wrong way.
What I would like to understand is, why some ROMs are rooted (have the switch in the Developer menu), when other ROMs require to be SuperSU installed? So, the app works OK on the first "kind" of ROM and it does not on second "kind".
Thank you very much.
Edit: @Heisenberg advised me in past, when I was struggling with A5.1.1 that it might be due to Privacy Guard on Android 5
You are wrong, my rom it's pre rooted with SuperSU 2.56, you can find the acces in Settings, over TugaPower rom.
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danieldmm said:
You are wrong, my rom it's pre rooted with SuperSU 2.56, you can find the acces in Settings, over TugaPower rom.
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The problem is that even I did allow the root in the developer menu, the TiberianBackup was still complaining that it cannot get the root access, so I had to install/allow the SuperSU. And then, whey I finally restore the company app from backup ... it doesn't work, probably because the SuperSU.
So, question is why some ROMs can be rooted and no SuperSU is required there (TiberianBackup works OK)?
Examples are: CM12/CM12.1/CM13 or @temasek ROM ... there is no SuperSU and TB still get root access and the company app works there? How come? I would like to understand this :angel:
djha53k said:
The problem is that even I did allow the root in the developer menu, the TiberianBackup was still complaining that it cannot get the root access, so I had to install/allow the SuperSU. And then, whey I finally restore the company app from backup ... it doesn't work, probably because the SuperSU.
So, question is why some ROMs can be rooted and no SuperSU is required there (TiberianBackup works OK)?
Examples are: CM12/CM12.1/CM13 or @temasek ROM ... there is no SuperSU and TB still get root access and the company app works there? How come? I would like to understand this :angel:
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Maybe because they are using the built in root from stock CM ... And yes over mine, TitaniumBackup work good.
danieldmm said:
Maybe because they are using the built in root from stock CM ... And yes over mine, TitaniumBackup work good.
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Ahaaaa, so there are differences how to implement the root, ok. Thank you.
So, the company app works only on the "stock CM root", but not on the any other.
Yes, I do not argue with you that TitaniumBackup doesn't work, it works, but both, root and SuperSU, have to be allowed on your ROM.
To be absolutely honest, I like your ROM, but also I need my company app works, but suddenly it doesn't work on your ROM
djha53k said:
This probably will be strange question, but I need to try...
My company is using the 3rd party app for access emails from outside network. (you need to have private server inside company, then you will not be able to test it). Issue is that this app does not work on some Custom ROMs.
The developer of this app stated, that app will not work if SuperSU or eXposted is installed and how detection is done is their know-how, so they will not say how it is done. I would be fine with this answer if it would be true.
Here is why I do not believe it is true:
> The app works on any Android 4.4 custom ROM, does not matter if it was rooted or SuperSU was installed
> The app works on any Android 5.0 custom ROM, does not matter if it was rooted or SuperSU was installed
> The app works on some Android 5.1 custom ROMs, but I was not able to figure out why. It work on rooted CM12.1 with SuperSU installed or rooted @temasek Temasek ROM, but it does NOT work on the AICP / SlimLP / Resurection ROMs which all of them include SuperSU
Now I´m on the start line again with Android 6... to find on which ROM the app will work or not...
I already tested these:
> app works on CM13, but this ROM is not so friendly as I used to, I miss a lot of features there
> app works on @temasek Temasek ROM, but almost every second app I try start it FC, so not suitable for use yet
> app does NOT work on @jgcaap [ROM][6.0] CyanogenMod 13.0 Builds [LAG FREE][2015/12/04], ROM not rooted... it required SuperSU to be installed
> app does NOT work on @danieldmm [ROM][CM13][Android 6.0] TugaPower 14.0, ROM not rooted... it required SuperSU to be installed
So, my question is: How the root/SuperSU is handeled by Android 6? I´m not developer, so maybe I´m asking wrong way.
What I would like to understand is, why some ROMs are rooted (have the switch in the Developer menu), when other ROMs require to be SuperSU installed? So, the app works OK on the first "kind" of ROM and it does not on second "kind".
Thank you very much.
Edit: @Heisenberg advised me in past, when I was struggling with A5.1.1 that it might be due to Privacy Guard on Android 5
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It works on my rom for a long time.
djha53k said:
but both, root and SuperSU, have to be allowed on your ROM.
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No, sorry but it's not true, root over my rom it's full controlled by the SuperSU root app and not CM. When was the last time you flashed my rom and wich version? Did you tested run your app with the Xposed module to hide root in Rom?
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jgcaap said:
It works on my rom for a long time.
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No, the app does not work on your ROM
danieldmm said:
No, sorry but it's not true, root over my rom it's full controlled by the SuperSU root app and not CM. When was the last time you flashed my rom and wich version? Did you tested run your app with the Xposed module to hide root in Rom?
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I tested the latest TugaPower 15.0.
Yes, the "root is fully controlled by the SuperSU" is the problem for that app, the SuperSU is detected as security threat and it will not start.
And yes again, the Xposed module is detected by that app too as security threat, so it will not start as well.
So, basically saying, I need to use ONLY custom ROMs, which implement the CM root, no SuperSU or Xposed is allowed.
And there is not many of them and its hard to find one with nice features and cherry-picks.
Question: how do you decide which root will be included in your ROM when you building it?
djha53k said:
No, the app does not work on your ROM
I tested the latest TugaPower 15.0.
Yes, the "root is fully controlled by the SuperSU" is the problem for that app, the SuperSU is detected as security threat and it will not start.
And yes again, the Xposed module is detected by that app too as security threat, so it will not start as well.
So, basically saying, I need to use ONLY custom ROMs, which implement the CM root, no SuperSU or Xposed is allowed.
And there is not many of them and its hard to find one with nice features and cherry-picks.
Question: how do you decide which root will be included in your ROM when you building it?
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Then you must be doing something wrong... This was the first thing i fixed. use 2.52 version.
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Then you must be doing something wrong... This was the first thing i fixed. use 2.52 version.
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OK, gonna test it now... will you posted :good:
Edit: I did tested on the cm-13.0-20151204-jgcaap-bacon.zip ... Downloading the cm-13.0-20151205-jgcaap-bacon.zip now...
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Then you must be doing something wrong... This was the first thing i fixed. use 2.52 version.
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Aha, I got it, why it doens't work ...
In TWRP installed:
- cm-13.0-20151205-jgcaap-bacon.zip
- slim pico gapps
But when I pressed reboot I got message> "Your device dost not appeared to be rooted. Install SuperSU now? This will root your device."
So, I have two options...
1) Press> "Do Not Install" ... which will caused that TitaniumBackup will not work, so I will not able to do restore of my apps
2) Swipe> "Swipe to Install" ... which will caused the company app will not work, so I will not able to connect to company emails
Either way is bad for me :crying:
djha53k said:
Aha, I got it, why it doens't work ...
In TWRP installed:
- cm-13.0-20151205-jgcaap-bacon.zip
- slim pico gapps
But when I pressed reboot I got message> "Your device dost not appeared to be rooted. Install SuperSU now? This will root your device."
So, I have two options...
1) Press> "Do Not Install" ... which will caused that TitaniumBackup will not work, so I will not able to do restore of my apps
2) Swipe> "Swipe to Install" ... which will caused the company app will not work, so I will not able to connect to company emails
Either way is bad for me :crying:
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Download SuperSU 2.52 (not any other version)
Flash zip and have fun.
I'm trying to bring a surprise...
jgcaap said:
Download SuperSU 2.52 (not any other version)
Flash zip and have fun.
I'm trying to bring a surprise...
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OK, downloaded the BETA-SuperSU-v2.52.zip, so I'm gonna re-flash it again:
- cm-13.0-20151205-jgcaap-bacon.zip
- Slim_zero_gapps.BETA.6.0.build.0.x-20151203.zip
- BETA-SuperSU-v2.52.zip
but I'm skeptic... as the company app detect for SuperSU and Xposed... so, even the TB will work OK, the mail will NOT
... BRB...
jgcaap said:
Download SuperSU 2.52 (not any other version)
Flash zip and have fun.
I'm trying to bring a surprise...
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Nope, doesn't work :crying:
As expected... app crashed once I enter password... as before or on any other ROM with SuperSU installed
So, let's test another ROM...
Installing the One+ VM13 Android 6.0 Rom for the One by @vinman12... no SuperSU required, so hopefully my company app will works... all fingers crossed...
I really like to know/understand how the root works here ...
djha53k said:
So, let's test another ROM...
Installing the One+ VM13 Android 6.0 Rom for the One by @vinman12... no SuperSU required, so hopefully my company app will works... all fingers crossed...
I really like to know/understand how the root works here ...
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If you don't flash su then be sure to turn it on in developers options. Also if you don't flash su the su in vm13 tweaks will not work it will just restart the ui. If you do flash su then the su in vm13 tweaks will open su app.
Did you get that
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If you don't flash su then be sure to turn it on in developers options. Also if you don't flash su the su in vm13 tweaks will not work it will just restart the ui. If you do flash su then the su in vm13 tweaks will open su app.
Did you get that
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I'm not care so much about the "vm13 tweaks", my MAIN issue is to make the company app works and IT IS working, huray :good:
And your ROM has other features which I like, such as: auto unlock once I enter correct PIN, custom-able tiles, etc... :victory:
Thank you :good:
Hello all,
I've recently given in to the draconic overlords that demanded no root (i.e. Niantic). I've rolled my phone back to OxyegnOS 2.1.4 (Android 5.1.1). Are there any more recent ROMs, possibly custom ROMs, that do not have root?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
sultans cm13 is specifically unrooted for apps that require no root. theres some xposed modules for things like pokemon go, banking apps, and snapchat if you want to keep root as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...m-kernel-unofficial-cyanogenmod-13-0-t3242700
You can use Magisk and play your game even if you're rooted. Check this out. You can use it with AutoMagisk, which will automatically unroot on the fly when you open the game!
xymic said:
You can use Magisk and play your game even if you're rooted. Check this out. You can use it with AutoMagisk, which will automatically unroot on the fly when you open the game!
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Thank you. I was using Magisk on CM13 but that stopped working, PoGo was really intermittent. Then I updated Magisk and phhsuperuser and only after the fact realized that they removed the root toggle feature in the latest version. That's what prompted the move to stock and the question above.
The Jack of Clubs said:
sultans cm13 is specifically unrooted for apps that require no root. theres some xposed modules for things like pokemon go, banking apps, and snapchat if you want to keep root as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...m-kernel-unofficial-cyanogenmod-13-0-t3242700
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Thank you for this. I knew there were some around but I just couldn't filter them out from the root-included ROMs.
Dunno where else to put this but so far none of the unofficial xposed solutions support the pixel phones because no one seems to want to work with the A/B file layout so if anyone here wants to pick up a project id greatly appreciate that one and i know ive seen a number of others asking for it in different magisk and unofficial xposed threads. Thanks for reading my post and potentially contributing to a fairly noble cause.
Unknown if this is a pixel success. Anyone who knows please do reply.
https://www.xda-developers.com/official-xposed-framework-android-nougat/
alladinscastle said:
Unknown if this is a pixel success. Anyone who knows please do reply.
https://www.xda-developers.com/official-xposed-framework-android-nougat/
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Doesn't support A/B partition layout yet. No version of xposed except magisk systemless will even flash and even then the magisk systemless xposed also doesn't seem to work right for pixel phones yet
KittyRgnarok said:
Doesn't support A/B partition layout yet. No version of xposed except magisk systemless will even flash and even then the magisk systemless xposed also doesn't seem to work right for pixel phones yet
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The couple of xposed modules I tried seemed OK (Greenify, youtube adaway...). I just didnt like it because it seemed to break Facebook and Facebook Messenger Apps (caused constant crashes for some reason) and also broke SafetyNet too, which defeats the purpose of even using Magisk. But overall you're most likely correct the modules still need to be updated for Nougat.
Damn...and I was so thrilled when the Nougat version came out.
Guess I stick with rooted Oreo was thinking about reinstall nougat cause of framework but sounds like it's not that great for pixel
cgrimm9 said:
Guess I stick with rooted Oreo was thinking about reinstall nougat cause of framework but sounds like it's not that great for pixel
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Yeah xposed was my main reason for rolling back but for me none of the modules were being read as properly activated. Its fine though because I have my custom ROM back since there aren't any for Oreo yet.
A thread at pixel xl is saying yes and no with various install methods
UPDATE: added pie controls from xposed to my pixel running RR ; )
Resolved: Systemless Xposed (SDK25) module in magisk now flashes and sticks without fail. Installing the modded Xposed provided in the module description allows the framework/app/modules to interface properly. With both the Systemless framework and the modded app all modules updated as of this month will work
If you haven't already replaced SuperSU with Magisk, do that.
ItWasAllIntended said:
If you haven't already replaced SuperSU with Magisk, do that.
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Well, choice is good, choice is what it should be, glad I have a choice to use what I want.
SR5-SuperSU-v2.82-SR5-20171001224502
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piperx said:
Well, choice is good, choice is what it should be, glad I have a choice to use what I want.
SR5-SuperSU-v2.82-SR5-20171001224502
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I highly recommend switching to magisk at least until we get a proper non magisk Xposed and this is coming from someone who has used SuperSU their whole life
KittyRgnarok said:
Resolved: Systemless Xposed (SDK25) module in magisk now flashes and sticks without fail. Installing the modded Xposed provided in the module description allows the framework/app/modules to interface properly. With both the Systemless framework and the modded app all modules updated as of this month will work
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Works on Oreo?
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Works on Oreo?
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No nougat only, Xposed is not supported on Android Oreo at all yet
Hi guys.
When trying to use these type of ROMS I get one BIG problem. A program that uses BANK ID , when logging in to banks won't work anymore.
I think the file is named STK.apk. if I am not wrong.
On all the Stock (based) Custom Roms this operation work. But in AOKP,AOSP it doesn't. On stock based this program is White Color and after entering PIN code it disappears and log me into the bank.
But on AOKP,AOSP it is black, and it doesn't disappear it just times out after I enter PIN code.
Does anyone know a workaround or what can be the issue ? Someone mentioned that I should switch Kernel to fireopal 3.3 unofficial but that didnt work. I flashed Kernel in TWRP, maybe it should have been flashed in ODIN ?
Caligula. Peace Out
This will likely be due to a SafetyNet issue.
Where you rooted on stock? if yes with magisk or otherwise?
If you're still on aosp you can download this SafetyNet Helper Sample and see if you pass.
If you don't there are a few things you can do to pass it again.
jaannnis said:
This will likely be due to a SafetyNet issue.
Where you rooted on stock? if yes with magisk or otherwise?
If you're still on aosp you can download this SafetyNet Helper Sample and see if you pass.
If you don't there are a few things you can do to pass it again.
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Hi , I did use SuperManRom and BatmanRom, I think they both were rooted yes, and they use Magisk 14 beta there I think.
I will try to flash an Aosp-Aokp Rom again and then try with this App you are posting. Thank you. Now I am on STOCK Samsung since I couldn't get this to work. I used KIES to go back to fabric base.
I will make a backup and then try
UPDATE : I have now flashed Lineage Os 14.1 and I haven't root and Safetynet fails. So first thing I need is root maybe ?
mrcaligula said:
Hi , I did use SuperManRom and BatmanRom, I think they both were rooted yes, and they use Magisk 14 beta there I think.
I will try to flash an Aosp-Aokp Rom again and then try with this App you are posting. Thank you. Now I am on STOCK Samsung since I couldn't get this to work. I used KIES to go back to fabric base.
I will make a backup and then try.
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Magisk has the capability to root your phone without triggering SafetyNet but that is (at least it was for me) a pain in the ass to get it working correctly.
Another thing I did with Snapchat (also doesn't work if SafetyNet is triggered) is that I set up the App on a clean stock rom, then backed it up with Titanium Backup and installed it on the rooted/aosp/... ROM. Note: This also works if the SafetyNet check in the app is only executed when you first login.
Thanks for info
I get false on the first CPTID(something) the heaviest of the 2 checks on SAFETYNET the other one I get ok.
After I install Magisk 14.
But I am giving up. Can't really find a 100 % workaround for this.
Hey I installed the RROS ROM and everything works fine except one thing.I cant find the fingerprint option on setting menu to set up the fingerprint scanner.
Any ideas how to fix it?
Did you remove fingerprints before you flashed rros
Hi, did you install additional magisk?
makiscfu said:
Hey I installed the RROS ROM and everything works fine except one thing.I cant find the fingerprint option on setting menu to set up the fingerprint scanner.
Any ideas how to fix it?
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The Latest Magisk Does Not Work Good With RROS Or Other Roms, Magisk 14.0 Wil Work On Fingerprint,
The latest magisk will not allow you to use Fingerprint or add password.
But magisk 14.0 allows that
SuperSwordSmasher said:
The Latest Magisk Does Not Work Good With RROS Or Other Roms, Magisk 14.0 Wil Work On Fingerprint,
The latest magisk will not allow you to use Fingerprint or add password.
But magisk 14.0 allows that
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16.7 works PERFECTLY on mine. You really need to stop assuming things don't work for everyone just because you have an issue
agraceful said:
16.7 works PERFECTLY on mine. You really need to stop assuming things don't work for everyone just because you have an issue
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I Mean Like Putting A Password or fingerprint with like the latest magisk
When i downgraded to magisk 14.0, fingerprint and passcode started working
agraceful said:
16.7 works PERFECTLY on mine. You really need to stop assuming things don't work for everyone just because you have an issue
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Nice to see. Will try this version. I have same problem. For me no version higher than 14 worked. Tried nearly every version and I already asked in Magisk and RROS threads but ... anyway.
Thanks for the info.
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EDIT: As I expected, it didn't work. Also with 16.7 beta no fingerprint sensor - and I don't know why. Only Magisk14 is working. Already tried clean flash.
Any help with this is very appreciated and I can provide logs and more information, of course.
Here is a bunch of some older logs: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1nTIPHsn7QazdVCVYmX_zxwrSLrz8Z4IV
And here are some newer: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1lXAj5-61qVz9T50i5bsnDQvXUnunYaCd