Hey everyone I'm a newbie in chinese smartphones cuz I haven't use one before , I'm actually on LG G4 and I want to switch to another smartphone !!
My Budget is 400$ Maximum !!
after many searches I've found 4 devices in that price range ,what I really want of my next future smartphone ,is to be an upgrade over My lg G4 camera and more performance.
My priorities are , Performance and longevity !! , good Camera , Solid build (Durability) , and Battery.
But I also want a good and Sharp display,good loudspeakers !!For Multimedia
I know that this is a lot to expect from a 400$ smartphone but I just want the best bang for bucks not that Perfect as flagships!!
I've found myself stuck with Oneplus 3 , Xiaomi Mi 5s, Honor 8 , Axon 7 and Zenfone 3 !!
it's very difficult for me to choose please help me , if there is another smartphone that you consider better please tell me !!
Best Regards,
Youssef
I had LG g4 prior to my honor 8, and I can't be happier right now for the money I spent on my honor 8. This phone beats LG g4 in every way in my honest opinion. I also had LG v20 for about couple weeks and I can even argue that this phone is better than LG v20 in many ways. I don't know where you live and how much you will have to spend to buy honor 8, I got mine less than $300 on a promotion with wireless headsets and gift cards. True cost of my honor 8 was about $200. You might wanna think about dollar to dollar value for your options. Some might argue that axon 7 is better, but at the end, honor 8 was the best for my buck. Five things about this phone competes with any other flagship device on the market right now.
1 Look and feel.
2 Cameras
3 Battery life (you can easily get 5-6 hours of screen time)
4 Performance. Especially, app opening and multi tasking.
5 Fingerprint sensor speed and accuracy.
The rest is just average.
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ceroglu said:
I had LG g4 prior to my honor 8, and I can't be happier right now for the money I spent on my honor 8. This phone beats LG g4 in every way in my honest opinion. I also had LG v20 for about couple weeks and I can even argue that this phone is better than LG v20 in many ways. I don't know where you live and how much you will have to spend to buy honor 8, I got mine less than $300 on a promotion with wireless headsets and gift cards. True cost of my honor 8 was about $200. You might wanna think about dollar to dollar value for your options. Some might argue that axon 7 is better, but at the end, honor 8 was the best for my buck. Five things about this phone competes with any other flagship device on the market right now.
1 Look and feel.
2 Cameras
3 Battery life (you can easily get 5-6 hours of screen time)
4 Performance. Especially, app opening and multi tasking.
5 Fingerprint sensor speed and accuracy.
The rest is just average.
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Thanks my friend but is honor 8 fragile to scratches or drops , how about the loudspeakers is it acceptable , and is there any fps drops or stutter while playing heavy games like asphalt .
Youssefmans said:
Hey everyone I'm a newbie in chinese smartphones cuz I haven't use one before , I'm actually on LG G4 and I want to switch to another smartphone !!
My Budget is 400$ Maximum !!
after many searches I've found 4 devices in that price range ,what I really want of my next future smartphone ,is to be an upgrade over My lg G4 camera and more performance.
My priorities are , Performance and longevity !! , good Camera , Solid build (Durability) , and Battery.
But I also want a good and Sharp display,good loudspeakers !!For Multimedia
I know that this is a lot to expect from a 400$ smartphone but I just want the best bang for bucks not that Perfect as flagships!!
I've found myself stuck with Oneplus 3 , Xiaomi Mi 5s, Honor 8 , Axon 7 and Zenfone 3 !!
it's very difficult for me to choose please help me , if there is another smartphone that you consider better please tell me !!
Best Regards,
Youssef
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I'm not going to write you a story,if you are ok to wait two moths for a phone, then go on oneplus.net and buy the oneplus 3t.
If you dont want to wait,go for Honor 8.
Axon 7 is good too,but i dont knkw where you can get it.
No Zenfone 3,i wanted it too but there are NO CUSTOM ROM!!!
The Honor 8 is a much better device than the LG G4. As it runs on the much more powerful HiSilicon Kirin 950 SOC, which is much more power than the Snapdragon 808 of the LG G4.
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The Honor 8 is a much better device than the LG G4. As it runs on the much more powerful HiSilicon Kirin 950 SOC, which is much more power than the Snapdragon 808 of the LG G4.
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The only advantages for the LG G4 are in camera, as it can record 4K. And display which is 1440p
oneplus would be my choice
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The only advantages for the LG G4 are in camera, as it can record 4K. And display which is 1440p
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That is true! Those are the only things the LG G4 have a step up on the Honor 8. But the camera on the Honor 8 isn't too shabby either.
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That is true! Those are the only things the LG G4 have a step up on the Honor 8. But the camera on the Honor 8 isn't too shabby either.
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I personally don't shoot videos, and fullHD is far enough, so no probs for me
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I personally don't shoot videos, and fullHD is far enough, so no probs for me
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Same here! I have 4K video recording capabilities on my Note 4 and I've never used it once.
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Hello
I have two main questions:
1.Did really worth replace Honor 6 for Honor 6 Plus? Does double camera really gives a good picture? Why no one dont put some pictures and comparisons camera about Honor 6 Plus? Why, it is impossible to find on the internet?
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2. Which phone?
My last phone was Xiom Mi3. Since I want to buy a new phone that is as good as Xiaomi Mi3 or even better just to have dual-sim, Igeta few phone. In the end I chose the Xiaomi Mi notes. Realistically there is no better phone with dual card and that the cost to the 350eura on Aliexpres. But unfortunately the Aliexpresu, Mi Note prices to hight - 410EUR minimum and I gave up. Too bad I do not have someone in China so that they can buy the phone for 320Euro in Xiaomi store. What is left and that can be purchased to 320eur is:
First ZTE Nubia Z7 Max (average phone but still may set for 320Euro)
2nd Huawei Honor 6 (processor is not something special, camera approximate Mi3)
3rd Huawei Honor 6 Plus (give really has a good camera or double camera only reklma?)
4th Lenovo Vibe x2 (a nice phone with jakip processor, camera approximate Mi3)
5th Huawei P7 (weak processor, camera approximate Mi3)
6th June, U3 (specifications as MI notes, but in reality that's not it - see clips YT)
7. Some of your recommendation ...
This is my opinion and I would like to hear your thoughts and recommendations. Are Honor 6 Plus relly better then all of them?
I have my honor 6 plus and its camera are better than my galaxy note 3 I believe
wavexda said:
Hello
I have two main questions:
1.Did really worth replace Honor 6 for Honor 6 Plus? Does double camera really gives a good picture? Why no one dont put some pictures and comparisons camera about Honor 6 Plus? Why, it is impossible to find on the internet?
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2. Which phone?
My last phone was Xiom Mi3. Since I want to buy a new phone that is as good as Xiaomi Mi3 or even better just to have dual-sim, Igeta few phone. In the end I chose the Xiaomi Mi notes. Realistically there is no better phone with dual card and that the cost to the 350eura on Aliexpres. But unfortunately the Aliexpresu, Mi Note prices to hight - 410EUR minimum and I gave up. Too bad I do not have someone in China so that they can buy the phone for 320Euro in Xiaomi store. What is left and that can be purchased to 320eur is:
First ZTE Nubia Z7 Max (average phone but still may set for 320Euro)
2nd Huawei Honor 6 (processor is not something special, camera approximate Mi3)
3rd Huawei Honor 6 Plus (give really has a good camera or double camera only reklma?)
4th Lenovo Vibe x2 (a nice phone with jakip processor, camera approximate Mi3)
5th Huawei P7 (weak processor, camera approximate Mi3)
6th June, U3 (specifications as MI notes, but in reality that's not it - see clips YT)
7. Some of your recommendation ...
This is my opinion and I would like to hear your thoughts and recommendations. Are Honor 6 Plus relly better then all of them?
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I've been waiting for this phone. I finally received it but I am not particularly happy with camera (as it doesnt have slow motion or taking picture during video), battery is bad (blame it on kirin processor), slow phone (unless you kill every goddamm app with inbuilt phone manager). So all in all I wish i didnt buy this phone. Sorry if my review doesn't help you with your decision making!
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I've been waiting for this phone. I finally received it but I am not particularly happy with camera (as it doesnt have slow motion or taking picture during video), battery is bad (blame it on kirin processor), slow phone (unless you kill every goddamm app with inbuilt phone manager). So all in all I wish i didnt buy this phone. Sorry if my review doesn't help you with your decision making!
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I'm sorry to hear that. (( I hope that some of the new update to fix errors on it and you will have a good phone.
Thank you for your response
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I've been waiting for this phone. I finally received it but I am not particularly happy with camera (as it doesnt have slow motion or taking picture during video), battery is bad (blame it on kirin processor), slow phone (unless you kill every goddamm app with inbuilt phone manager). So all in all I wish i didnt buy this phone. Sorry if my review doesn't help you with your decision making!
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There are apps in Google store for slow motion and so on.
Battery is bad in what sense ?
The phone being slow is also odd compared to what many users feel. The Honor 6 and Mate 7 also have the same kirin 92x chip and no complains at all. On the contrary all reviews talk about phone performing great despite having tons of apps in the background.
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I've been waiting for this phone. I finally received it but I am not particularly happy with camera (as it doesnt have slow motion or taking picture during video), battery is bad (blame it on kirin processor), slow phone (unless you kill every goddamm app with inbuilt phone manager). So all in all I wish i didnt buy this phone. Sorry if my review doesn't help you with your decision making!
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The phone is very fast and 3GB of RAM.
The honor 6 is a great phone with high specifications but seems that Huawei/honor can't exploit all the posibilities. They should open the drivers in order to facilitate the development.
There is no easy way to unlock bootloader, no custom rom ,people with this phone enjoying with stock roms ,i just got honor 6 + 4 days back for nearly 25,000, i sold it for just 11000 because of these very very verrrrrrrrrrrry slow development, good bye.?
Hello i wanted to know who's one is better than one plus 3 and honor 8 i want performances for 3d games photo selfie battery life and video recording i need to keep it for 2 years or i had another idea is to wait that the s7 price goes under 400 euros
what is the best idea for you
thanks
It was a very tough choice for me. I wanted a OnePlus 3 but needed a new phone asap and there was a 3 week delay. I got the honor 8 and have no regrets. The screen size is biggest difference. Also here is a link to a dual sim s7 from a company i trust. I got my honor 8 from them. I went with the honor because i got it for like $250 after all the bonuses factored into the price. Also I got it overnight shipped. I have ZERO regrets and love the phone
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1225377-REG/samsung_sm_g930_32gb_blk_galaxy_s7_g930_32gb.html
sabi95190 said:
Hello i wanted to know who's one is better than one plus 3 and honor 8 i want performances for 3d games photo selfie battery life and video recording i need to keep it for 2 years or i had another idea is to wait that the s7 price goes under 400 euros
what is the best idea for you
thanks
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For 3d gaming, bigger screen size and video recording I'd say go with the one plus 3.
Thanks fort tout replies i will go for a s7
On gaming, should be head to head for both of these phones. I perfer Honor 8 for HUAWEI brand.
thanks but it will be usable for 2 years this phone ? will problably have rom custom or update for the heat issue ?
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On gaming, should be head to head for both of these phones. I perfer Honor 8 for HUAWEI brand.
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in camera and battery life who's the best and the kirin 950 is it a good processor for games like gta fifa ...
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in camera and battery life who's the best and the kirin 950 is it a good processor for games like gta fifa ...
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Honor 8 is a good one on camera and I always have good battery life on HUAWEI (I own a Honor 4x). Kirin 950 is powerful enough to run most games.
The only downside you may encounter is that so far Kirin is closed source and you may not receive future system upgrade (like from Android 5.1 to 6, to 7...) if HUAWEI doesn't provide them. For OnePlus 3, developers can work on it and bring you new system upgrades...
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Honor 8 is a good one on camera and I always have good battery life on HUAWEI (I own a Honor 4x). Kirin 950 is powerful enough to run most games.
The only downside you may encounter is that so far Kirin is closed source and you may not receive future system upgrade (like from Android 5.1 to 6, to 7...) if HUAWEI doesn't provide them. For OnePlus 3, developers can work on it and bring you new system upgrades...
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Thx but honor 8 will do not have Android 7 emui 5 but here i read that ROM custom are coming soon...
I was making the same decision the other week; in the end I went with the Honor 8 over the OnePlus 3 mainly due to the display. The oneplus 3 has a pentile screen, and based on reviews it's not the greatest screen. Personally, I didn't want to be stuck with a mediocre screen on a phone that I'll be keeping for ~2 yrs.
Plus, I'm hoping to use the Honor 8 to get better at building custom roms; the adventure of trying something new is exciting, versus the relative ease of building for the oneplus 3.
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I was making the same decision the other week; in the end I went with the Honor 8 over the OnePlus 3 mainly due to the display. The oneplus 3 has a pentile screen, and based on reviews it's not the greatest screen. Personally, I didn't want to be stuck with a mediocre screen on a phone that I'll be keeping for ~2 yrs.
Plus, I'm hoping to use the Honor 8 to get better at building custom roms; the adventure of trying something new is exciting, versus the relative ease of building for the oneplus 3.
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You took honor 8 ?
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You took honor 8 ?
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Yes, I bought the 8 last weekend; enjoying it so far.
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Yes, I bought the 8 last weekend; enjoying it so far.
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Good quality photo ? Good performance ?
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Good quality photo ? Good performance ?
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Yup, photo quality is good. It's a responsive phone, it could probably be better with a lighter skin (custom roms!) and some tweaks to the kernel.
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Yup, photo quality is good. It's a responsive phone, it could probably be better with a lighter skin (custom roms!) and some tweaks to the kernel.
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I will order i think ROM custom Willie come soon as dev said
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Thx but honor 8 will do not have Android 7 emui 5 but here i read that ROM custom are coming soon...
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I think HUAWEI will upgrade Android 7 to Honor 8 in future...
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I think HUAWEI will upgrade Android 7 to Honor 8 in future...
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honor 8 will shurely get emui 5 on top on android 7.
maybe even sooner, as it is aldredy in beta for huawei p9/mate 8
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I think HUAWEI will upgrade Android 7 to Honor 8 in future...
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thanks so i will order for nme he is better than oneplus 3 now ^^
i heard that honor 8 had bad video recording is it true ?
Hey , I'm about to buy a new smartphone and I'm wondering which smartphone will be the best for 300 bucks.
So what I want is a solid build smartphone ,weight doesn't bother me .A powerful CPU and sufficient RAM for Browsing internet,Watching Youtube, Social Media(Multitasking) and playing occasionnaly some games (asphalt,..) .A good Camera I don't care about low light or recording 4K videos I just want some Good Pictures ,more details and sharpness and accurate autofocus since I will use it for social media. And a durable Battery at least one day without charging !!! ; and a loud speakers not the loudest as the Axon 7 but at least audible.
After many searches I found that the Mi 5s is the best, but I heard that some users have encountered some problems with the fingerprint scanner , 4G connectivity , and battery draining too fast, and Problems with multitasking as the phone had to reload apps everytime , I dunno if it's a problem of some units or general.
But I also found these Smartphones : Leeco Le Pro 3, Leeco Le Max 2, Zuk Z2 , Honor 8 , ASUS Zenfone 3, Meizu Pro6, Huawei Honor V8 , Xiaomi Mi 5 , Zte Nubia 11 ,..., if u know something else in this price range please tell me.
So My Priorities are Performance , Camera , Solid Build , Battery , Audio .
Please Guys , tell me which smartphone can handle my needs ? is Mi 5s better than those listed above ?
PS: My Provider 4G bands are 800/1800/1600 Mhz
Could please answer to the pool below
Thanks in advance.
The vote will be undoubtedly biased in favor of the Honor 8
That's a whole lot a phones you're inquiring about... why don't you do your own research by reading the threads that already been created in the various phones forums you listed.
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That's a whole lot a phones you're inquiring about... why don't you do your own research by reading the threads that already been created in the various phones forums you listed.
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I know but most of the reviews are kind of sponsored or presented by fanboys !! So I need help with the community to help me choose the best for me.
I have reduced the list to 4 devices
Honor 8 (4gb) , huawei P9 (3gb) , Oneplus 3 , Axon 7 (4gb) !
I want best performance in day to day tasks , good battery , good daylight camera stills , good display , and acceptable sound
HONOR 8 <3
I did my own research but with the following devices: S7 Edge, ZTE Axon 7, ASUS Zenfone 3 Laser, Moto Z Play, OnePlus 3T and HTC 10.
I ended up getting Honor 8 as the EMUI skin is much better (and smoother) than other OEMs skins. Device just looks so much better than other devices of it's range like Axon, OP 3T etc., Looking forward to the dual cameras as well. I don't listen to music via speakers so lack of front facing speakers was not an issue for me.
Also figured while I wait for S8 Unlocked (which could take probably the end of next year in the USA), I can enjoy Honor 8 until then. The company also recently revealed that Honor 8 will receive updates for 2 years.
The only frustration I had was dealing with notifications but after playing around with it, I have set it to work the way I want.
Hope this helps.
I previously had a Galaxy S7 and wasn't impressed with their variant of Android. Overall I've been impressed with the Honor 8. Despite technically being slower specs wise than the Snapdragon 820, this phone is far more fluid than most other phones I've used. Typically in my experience when manufacturers customize Android and skin it to their liking it seems the end result is a bogged down mess but it's different with the Honor 8.
After having the Honor 8 for a couple of weeks as my daily driver here are my impressions of it.
Pros:
1. The CPU is extremely efficient and performs great.
2. The design is very impressive and sleek. I really enjoy that the phone is completely linear and flat. It feels very balanced in the hand and using it is comfortable.
3. The fingerprint sensor is accurate and quick. I've never seen a fingerprint sensor as fast as this one is.
4. Despite being iOS themed everything is efficiently placed in the UI and fits together very well in my opinion.
5. There is very little bloat that needs to be removed unlike other phones.
6. It only cost me $300 with a case, extra cable and charger.
Cons:
1. The stock launcher should be replaced with something like Pixel or Nova launcher.
2. If you decide on the Honor 8 then I will advise a case, but definitely get a clear one so you can still see the beautiful glass back
Since you can get this phone for less then when it first came out it's really a power house with practical features that make using this phone a dream.
As far as the lack of development... Unless you get a Nexus phone, nowadays there isn't much to gain from going to custom roms. You tend to lose features and functionality on phones like these when using custom. Truthfully, I believe the age of needing custom roms is coming to an end because of this. Huawei is also an excellent manufacturer in which they seem intent on making sure their phones get updated properly.
I own a honor 8, and I am surprised that it beat S7, G5...etc in performance.
Plus when you set it on smart mode, the SOT is just crazy (7-8h usually). And it multitasks very well for me (some apps, chrome, youtube and a game) without reloading
I'd go for the Honor 8 as the HiSIlicon Kirin 950 SOC used in it, is a very powerfull SOC.
Hey.
I got an Honor 8 without looking at all the specs (I got offered it on a good contract)
Since I got it I had fallen in love with it.
I'm on the UK beta N programme and it's the first phone I have ever had that I hadn't rooted and put custom ROMs into.
I have found that with the options for using themes and fonts that I can customise it as much as i want and the EMUI 5 is nothing like the EMUI 4 (IOS)
The battery life ain't what I thought it was gonna be but then it's still a beta program..
I know Honor have invested in a development scene both on XDA and MoDaco so they must be up for releasing thier source code.
I'm not sure about the specs for gaming etc but I would say that it's a great phone.
John
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le pro 3, better rom support and has a snapdragon. or honor 8 if youre not bothered with flashing roms
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le pro 3, better rom support and has a snapdragon. or honor 8 if youre not bothered with flashing roms
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Have you had played with both phones, who's better?! (Apart from ROM support)
Aside from 3D gaming the Kirin 950 seems to be faster than the Snapdragon 820 at basically everything...
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Aside from 3D gaming the Kirin 950 seems to be faster than the Snapdragon 820 at basically everything...
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Yes, youtube videos proved it. Plus I've put my honor 8 against a LG G5 and S7 edge, both were slower than my honor 8
Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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I got mine on a black friday sale and I'm happy with it. but at full price I would consider something else.
This phone has the Kirin processor and you can root it but the custom rom's will be few because of the processor
The Galaxy S6 is a nice phone but the bootloaders are locked.
I don't know anything about the Sony.
If you have $400 for the full priced H8 I would recommend a used Nexus 6p or a One plus 3 for flashing customs roms and developer support.
If those phones are too big for your taste theirs also the HTC 9 and 10 to consider... they have a great developer community
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Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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I got mine on a black friday sale and I'm happy with it. but at full price I would consider something else.
This phone has the Kirin processor and you can root it but the custom rom's will be few because of the processor
The Galaxy S6 is a nice phone but the bootloaders are locked.
I don't know anything about the Sony.
If you have $400 for the full priced H8 I would recommend a used Nexus 6p or a One plus 3 for flashing customs roms and developer support.
If those phones are too big for your taste theirs also the HTC 9 and 10 to consider... they have a great developer community
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I have around 450 max for a phone and the Oneplus 3 would have been great because it was 430 dollars but now they only sell the 3T for about 500 and its an import so i think it will have taxes . I looked at the One M9 and the one thing i didn't like is that it is missing a fingerprint scanner and from reviews they say if your chosing between the M9 and S6 go for the S6 so idk . The HTC 10 is good but if i had the money for it (650$) i would have bought the S7 Edge .
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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The Xperia X has the edge in performance over the H8 but it overheats when using the camera idk if sony fixed it or not.Axon 7 is pricey for me 600 dollars but its a great phone.The Xiaomi MI 5S is cheap and packs perfromance with the SD 821 but being a Xiaomi doesn't it have poor software ?
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Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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I just bought the Honor 8 after a long evaluation and endless comparisons (price for me was 320 EUR discounted, so really mid-range price territory).
The hardware is great and having such a fast fingerprint sensor is really awesome. Biggest two drawbacks for me are:
- the user interface: I don't like EMUI at all and it's pretty far from the Android standard, but you can use a custom launcher and hopefully an unofficial near-stock theme will be available soon;
- the screen: has a quite poor calibration and looks like a significant step back from my previous Sony Z1 Compact.
Sony devices are nice but heavily bloated. Also I was quite disappointed with my Z1 Compact camera: it looks like they didn't provide adequate support in the transition from KitKat to Lollipop and there was a performance degradation killing an otherwise interesting sensor. I haven't tried a Samsung since the death of my S3 due to eMMC failure and my experience with that device had not been stellar (given I did paid full price for it), but I have read that the UI has improved in the latest interations.
As for root and custom ROMs the thing is: while every device can be rooted one way or another, for a good custom ROM support you should consider only Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets (the Honor has a HiSilicon Kirin) and even in that case the proper support for camera and other advanced hardware features could be not easy. So you may root the Honor but don't expect an AOSP / LineageOS ROM to work properly (there is some work underway but if Huawei doesn't change its politics I wouldn't expect acceptable results).
As for me the only device I could have bought instead of the Honor was the HTC 10, but at a cost significantly higher.
P.S.: Xiaomi devices are interesting but most of them have limited LTE band support, so you may want to check against the bands used in your country (the GSMArena website has a great search tool you could take advantage of).
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I just bought the Honor 8 after a long evaluation and endless comparisons (price for me was 320 EUR discounted, so really mid-range price territory).
The hardware is great and having such a fast fingerprint sensor is really awesome. Biggest two drawbacks for me are:
- the user interface: I don't like EMUI at all and it's pretty far from the Android standard, but you can use a custom launcher and hopefully an unofficial near-stock theme will be available soon;
- the screen: has a quite poor calibration and looks like a significant step back from my previous Sony Z1 Compact.
Sony devices are nice but heavily bloated. Also I was quite disappointed with my Z1 Compact camera: it looks like they didn't provide adequate support in the transition from KitKat to Lollipop and there was a performance degradation killing an otherwise interesting sensor. I haven't tried a Samsung since the death of my S3 due to eMMC failure and my experience with that device had not been stellar (given I did paid full price for it), but I have read that the UI has improved in the latest interations.
As for root and custom ROMs the thing is: while every device can be rooted one way or another, for a good custom ROM support you should consider only Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets (the Honor has a HiSilicon Kirin) and even in that case the proper support for camera and other advanced hardware features could be not easy. So you may root the Honor but don't expect an AOSP / LineageOS ROM to work properly (there is some work underway but if Huawei doesn't change its politics I wouldn't expect acceptable results).
As for me the only device I could have bought instead of the Honor was the HTC 10, but at a cost significantly higher.
P.S.: Xiaomi devices are interesting but most of them have limited LTE band support, so you may want to check against the bands used in your country (the GSMArena website has a great search tool you could take advantage of).
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Im in the same state of endless comparisons and watching reviews for phones . From reviews and speed tests the Honor 8 seems like a great deal , in app opening comparsion it was leading 15 to 5 againts the Iphone 7 Plus if 100% true in normal use its a pretty fast phone and is concidered as one of the best 400 dollar phones . My concern is the UI and support i will slap google now launcher but for support updates and so on its a Huawei after all and i don't have experience with them . Most of my root and rom adventures were made with my Galaxy S3 Neo because it came with Android 4.4.2 and never got an update and with the help of roms it had 6.0.1 from the S6 with an overclocked Kernel and slow motion camera mod. All of the reviews for the X performance say that Sony are asking too much (700$) for the flaws it has . I put a thread on the Sony forum but no response yet . For me the price is lower 430$ for the Xperia but if the bugs are not fixed by Sony its dissapointing . I really like the Galaxy S6 but after all its a 2015 model . Xiaomi MI 5s supports my 4G network but being a Xiaomi software wise i think its badly optimized.
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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I have the Honor 8 and have been using it for the last 3 months or so.
I'm not into all these tests but I know that the phone has stood up to everything that I have thrown at it and I use my phone allot.
If you want a good, solid phone that looks good and will be kept upto date for the next couple of years then get the Honor 8
My flat mate has got the pixel and after using it I really can't see how it's worth the extra couple of £100
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In my mind, the only phones that are worth getting if you want to flash roms are OnePlus and Google, the rest are not worthwhile. These two phones are the only ones that will get great support on XDA. If this is your purpose then don't even bother considering any other brand, it's just a waste of your time. Even if it is available for other phones you run into hassle with losing warranty by unlocking bootloader and doing more steps than needed. It's better just to get a OnePlus where all the custom rom features are already built in.
If you can get the Honor 8 for $300 new or less and wants a good camera it's worth it. I'm very happy with the camera for still shots which is what I mainly bought the phone for. It's the best camera I've used outside of Samsung so far, I think the Huawei and Samsung are the tops right now for camera. It's better than the Nexus 6P in term of dynamic and colors. Also Huawei currently make the best fingerprint scanner, albeit on the back. The hardware is fast, but expect lots of thermal throttling while gaming.
You will have to deal with some goofy battery management which turns off notification and background running apps, although there is a way to fix this but you have to whitelist the apps in two different nearly hidden places in the settings, although the new Nougat updates is supposed to improve this.
In term of updates support, I think it's pretty poor, at least in term of speed. Many phones are already on Nougat before this one. I do like the fact they made the stock firmware publicly available. The main thing that hampers this phone is the software.
Hey there. I was in the dilemma you are right now two months ago when I bought the Honor 8. I'm not disappointed at all, in the past few years I've used almost every brand there is, HTC, Samsung s3, Lg G2, Sony z3 Compact, Moto G 1 and 2, Sony z3, z3+ and m5, and my last phone was the Huawei p9 lite, I was astonished as to how that "cheap phone" camera could beat my Sony z3+ that I loved so much. That's when I paid attention To Huawei, and man they're doing a great job. Yes maybe in development you won't be able to do much, if that's what you're looking for, maybe it's better to look elsewhere, but in terms of battery, daily use performance and heavy usage, camera, good looking phone, this is a great deal. I bought for 400 when it was released. A few weeks ago my brother got it at 330, which was like stealing haha. And I know this month it will get Nougat. Emui software will be better with the update, not saying it was bad but many disliked it, I'm fine with it to be honest. And Honor offers 2 years of support after the date of release. So you'll get Android updates until mid-2018.
Hope this helps.
I really don't recommend buying a phone at the moment, as u know it's a new year
New phones and chipsets are released and prices eventually will drop. I recommend waiting for couple of months if you can.
Regarding the Honor 8 itself, I know there's something about this phone makes you want it although u can just save a little and get axon 7 or 1+3 and it's not a perfect phone either it lacks some things like OIS for videos and 4K for video.
Other than that it offers a great camera you should check threads here for camera samples, it does take very great still images!
I saw lots of comparisons too between that phone and others. Well in everyday usage there's no difference between it and a snapdragon 820 powered phone regarding opening apps and so .. The kirin 950 is pretty strong scoring 90K+ in antutu benchmark which is okay.. You shouldn't be worried about a game that won't run smoothly on it at the moment! But it's not the best developer friendly unlike snapdragon chipsets!
Beside all that it's a pretty phone ( sexy design, great camera, decent battery & good performance ) it has USB C and fast charging and the chipset supports Vulkan API which makes somewhat it future proof. Also about the EMUI, it can grow on you over time it has neat features not laggy as people might suggest it has theme engine too plenty of customizability and gestures, I don't see it lacking other than the looks of the pure android but that can be fixed by using nova launcher.
Bottom line, if u don't mind the UI and the development area ( it exists but it may take a while ) definitely go for it .. Otherwise u may consider saving or buying One Plus 3 if you're a flashaholic there are plenty of ROMs for the one plus, And a strong development community!
I have the FRD-L14 (64 GB USA version) for $340 total from Amazon. It has replaced my Sony Z3 Compact that I had for two years bought for $500. Tell you what the Honor 8 is worth the money. Fast and responsive. The 4 GB of memory is awesome since apps stay in memory so multitasking is mostly instant. 64 GB memory + 64 GB microSD = awesome. Camera is fast enough with good quality. The screen is the only downside compared to flagship phones costing $600+ but I came from the Sony Z3 Compact display so it's not a problem for me. Maybe I am also lucky but I don't have a blue-ish tint on certain reviews.
The best thing about this is it has Band 12 LTE for TMOBILE. I now have 3 bars of signal sitting in my office instead of 1 or zero or searching all the time. The HD Voice call is also super clear. The speaker phone, though, could be better. The fingerprint scanner is just as good as the Samsung or Apple. Two THUMBS UP. I would upgrade to the Honor 9-10 down the road assuming they keep the price competitive.
Price of Honor 8
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I have around 450 max for a phone and the Oneplus 3 would have been great because it was 430 dollars but now they only sell the 3T for about 500 and its an import so i think it will have taxes . I looked at the One M9 and the one thing i didn't like is that it is missing a fingerprint scanner and from reviews they say if your chosing between the M9 and S6 go for the S6 so idk . The HTC 10 is good but if i had the money for it (650$) i would have bought the S7 Edge .
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I just bought a Honor 8 from a dealer on ebay..paid $250....New but no box..
Exactly as the others say the Honor 8 is a great phone! It is fast, good looking and has a great camera! So in 2015 I was looking for a new phone to replace my old Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and this seller showed me the Honor 7 but it didn't really appeal to me that much (Mostly because of EMUI) and I decided to keep on using my S4 Mini.
But a few weeks ago I got the Honor 8 for 325€ (Discounted) even if I didn't really like EMUI that much I must say, it is better than I expected! Now there is a few things I still don't like in EMUI (Like the split Notifications and Shortcuts) but in the new EMUI 5 update that is currently being rolled out, it will just get a whole lot better and many of the things I find annoying is fixed
So would I recommend this phone? Yes I would definitivtly recommend this phone for someone who is looking for a great phone but still not to expensive, even though it doesn't have that many custom ROMS yet (Coming from someone who used Custom ROMS a lot previously) I think we will get more custom ROMS within a few months
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Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it
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I've been using it since 1st December 2016 and I wouldn't recommend it, 'cause:
1. It has no system-level equalizer;
2. It has no system-level audio balance tweaker(?);
3. When using the app com.rubycell.pianisthd, the audio output is full of "clicks"; no longer with android 7
4. It's kirin-based, therefore "good luck" with custom roms.
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I'm not gonna sell it any soon 'cause I can kinda live with it thanks to Poweramp, but come on, the audio subsystem of this phone is sh*t. You should only get it if you're deaf or for some reason you don't enjoy listening to music.
I apologize for being this rude.
The aesthetics are amazing and the performance is really decent. The software is mediocre, though it might be better with the Android & UI update--but that's been a slow process and I've yet to see the update myself.
The hardware is impressive and in many ways exceeded my expectations. The Kirin 950 opens apps quickly and the 4gb of what I believe to be DDR3 memory allows for multiple app usage without any trouble. DDR4 would be amazing, but it holds its own with what it has.
The GPU is only OK. It runs a bit hot when in 1080 mode, playing games like War Robots. 720 seems to cool it down a bit. No problems with older games like the GTA series, no problems with Real Racing 3 or the Riptide series.
Still, the 3d AnTuTu benchmarks combine for a score of about 20k, where as the OP3T is over 40k combined. Overall, my phone grabbed a 94,000. The overall for the OP3T is over 135,000. The difference in the score is due to the GPU and memory being slower than the OP3T's Adreno 530 and 6gb of DDR4. The Kirin 950 itself, holds its own against the Snapdragon 820 and 821.
The price point is all over the place in the US market. I picked mine up for $319.00, but I've seen them on shelves for $400.00 USD. At 300, it's not bad, but if you are going to hit the 400 mark, might as well go with the OP3T.
I have 2 weeks left to return mine, if I don't see the update by then, it will go back and I'll drop few extra for the OP3T. If I get the update and it feels smooth, I'll probably stick with it.
Would I recommend it? If you can get it for 300 USD or close to it, yes, it's a good phone for that price point. If you see it in your market and it is closer to 400, go for the OP3T. If you LOVE mods, regardless of price, go for the OP3T.
Note: The ZUK Z2 Pro is in the same price range, but I hear the software is awful and build quality questionable, that's why I didn't bring it up in comparison.
Note II: I've updated to B360 via Firmware Finder. So far the phone doesn't feel too much different, but there are changes. The UI is a bit cleaner, my benchmark went up by 6000 overall, but no change in GPU scores. The app drawer is laid out nicely, the notification bar looks better, the native sms message system is upgraded and more functional.
I have to stick with my original opinion. If you can get the phone for 300-ish USD, if you are OK with WYSIWYG, it's a solid, aesthetically beautiful device. If you are creeping into the 400.00 range, take a very serious look at the OP3T. Again, if you are a modder or love the bleeding edge, OP3T is your device.
PErsonally, I like it over the S7 Edge. Faster and smoother.
Handful of reasons the S7 Edge is the daily driver:
Larger screen
Better video and slightly better camera shots
Audio can be tweaked
Only major con is the ugly IOS skin on the Honor 8. Personally i like it a ton.
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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Unfortunately the OP3 and OP3T have no microSD-cardslot.
You have to consider this.
the Honor 8 has the following advantages.
- fairly fast (Arm Cortex A72 CPU's) and due to a FHD-screen the gfx-perfomance is even slightly faster than e.g. the galaxy S5.
--> so many (older) high-end games run quite good.
- great screen (wide gamut LCD screen)
- IR-blaster
--> and reviewers don't mention this but the Honor's IR-blaster is both output AND input, which means it can "learn" codes from other remotes while the e.g. Samsung's can't.
--> works also good with other IR-blaster apps too.
- microSD-slot
- price compared to known-brand flagships and mid-range devices (bar the oneplus models)
--> the standard Honor 8 (32GB) has a great price/performance-ratio IMHO and there's usually some sale somewhere
--> got mine with a free 64GB card so it was even greater value for money
- camera is good for the price
--> great quick shortcut (with volume-keys or fingerscanner-button)
- EMUI has some nice tricks with the fingerprint-scanner
--> e.g. there's a "safe" to store private files which can be locked/unlocked with fingerprint
- bootloader CAN be unlocked and is fairly easy to root.
--> Huawei themselves supply the unlock codes which is great, isn't it?
- beautifull design. It looks great and the camera is completely flush
- mirrorcast (to non-Samsung TV's) works fine without rooting and tampering with the build.prop
disadvantages.
- it is VERY slippery
- not as fast as particularly Oneplus 3 (and 3T) which cost the same
--> Honor 8 premium cost the same as OnePlus 3/T and has the same internal storage capacity
- some people prefer QHD
--> this doesn't bother me personally but it might be a dealbreaker for some
- no EQ on the standard music app or anywhere else on the device
--> so you need another music-player if you really want this or other audio-enhancements.
- Samsung's still have better camera's for low-light photography especially the S6 (IMHO the S6 is even better than the S7 in this respect)
- no DLNA so you'll need an optional app for this. Though screencast works fine.
--> I tried the old Skifta-app myself from qualcomm and it works great. Unfortunately you have to look hard to find this though asit isn't on Play anymore.
IMHO the Honor 8 is a great little device. Sufficiently powerful and it has most of important points covered.
As for me, the SD-card slot, IR-blaster and the better deal (with a free 64GB card) were the main reasons to go for the Honor8 instead for the OP3T
There's probably a lot more that I haven't covered but I have my device just 4 days so I'm not a "pro" just yet
So I hope this is helpful.
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The aesthetics are amazing and the performance is really decent. The software is mediocre, though it might be better with the Android & UI update--but that's been a slow process and I've yet to see the update myself.
The hardware is impressive and in many ways exceeded my expectations. The Kirin 950 opens apps quickly and the 4gb of what I believe to be DDR3 memory allows for multiple app usage without any trouble. DDR4 would be amazing, but it holds its own with what it has.
The GPU is only OK. It runs a bit hot when in 1080 mode, playing games like War Robots. 720 seems to cool it down a bit. No problems with older games like the GTA series, no problems with Real Racing 3 or the Riptide series.
Still, the 3d AnTuTu benchmarks combine for a score of about 20k, where as the OP3T is over 40k combined. Overall, my phone grabbed a 94,000. The overall for the OP3T is over 135,000. The difference in the score is due to the GPU and memory being slower than the OP3T's Adreno 530 and 6gb of DDR4. The Kirin 950 itself, holds its own against the Snapdragon 820 and 821.
The price point is all over the place in the US market. I picked mine up for $319.00, but I've seen them on shelves for $400.00 USD. At 300, it's not bad, but if you are going to hit the 400 mark, might as well go with the OP3T.
I have 2 weeks left to return mine, if I don't see the update by then, it will go back and I'll drop few extra for the OP3T. If I get the update and it feels smooth, I'll probably stick with it.
Would I recommend it? If you can get it for 300 USD or close to it, yes, it's a good phone for that price point. If you see it in your market and it is closer to 400, go for the OP3T. If you LOVE mods, regardless of price, go for the OP3T.
Note: The ZUK Z2 Pro is in the same price range, but I hear the software is awful and build quality questionable, that's why I didn't bring it up in comparison.
Note II: I've updated to B360 via Firmware Finder. So far the phone doesn't feel too much different, but there are changes. The UI is a bit cleaner, my benchmark went up by 6000 overall, but no change in GPU scores. The app drawer is laid out nicely, the notification bar looks better, the native sms message system is upgraded and more functional.
I have to stick with my original opinion. If you can get the phone for 300-ish USD, if you are OK with WYSIWYG, it's a solid, aesthetically beautiful device. If you are creeping into the 400.00 range, take a very serious look at the OP3T. Again, if you are a modder or love the bleeding edge, OP3T is your device.
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Thanks for the long and explained point of view it seems that only on the honor 8 forum people comment on stuff like this because it made a thread on the x perfromance forum still 0 comments . The OP3T is a great phone and comes for about 470 dollars . Over the past few days i've got the conclusion that im not getting the honor 8 because its priced at 420 ish dollars and for and for the same price i can get the xperia which has the SD820 with a 1080p screen so it will perform 23 MP camera will fine compared to my current 12 or i can get for 460 the Zte Axon 7 also with SD820 2k display and amazing audio and if i go even higher i can get the S7 for 490 . But im thinking on not going too far for the S7 because the Xperia and Axon offer the same performance just losing on camera and ips sertification if i got with the axon but it has one of the best if not the best speakers and headphone output.
I just got a used one off of Amazon for $235. Honestly, I think it's worth that price, but I would recommend waiting for MWC at the very least. I only pulled the trigger on it right now because the only other phones in the price range I had (about $200 - $300), were the upcoming MOTO G5 series. I have been using a Moto E 2015, but I felt that since the Honor 8 had higher specs, a better design, a better camera, etc. that it was worth it.
Additionally, I think Huawei promised 2 years of support and the phone just came out, so we will definitely see Android O at the very least (which is pretty great).
I know it looks like this question has been asked before, but most of the answers revolve around OnePlus 3T being cheaper. But for some reason they cost the same in my country. so i want to know which one you'd choose if they were the same price.
I would really like to have the bigger screen of Mate 9, but I've heard that Huawei phones are not durable and will have lower performance after a while. is this true? this is a very important factor for me because i wont be able to buy another phone anytime soon, so i'll have to do with it for a time (preferably more than 2 years!).
Thank you ladies an gentlemen in advance for all your wise advice!
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I know it looks like this question has been asked before, but most of the answers revolve around OnePlus 3T being cheaper. But for some reason they cost the same in my country. so i want to know which one you'd choose if they were the same price.
I would really like to have the bigger screen of Mate 9, but I've heard that Huawei phones are not durable and will have lower performance after a while. is this true? this is a very important factor for me because i wont be able to buy another phone anytime soon, so i'll have to do with it for a time (preferably more than 2 years!).
Thank you ladies an gentlemen in advance for all your wise advice!
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Are you kidding me about Huawei durability? Also, lower performance? After a while??? Bro, I don't think you are talking about the Mate 9. https://youtu.be/-x7s_amjJso
The only thing OP3T has over the Mate 9 to me is development (custom ROMs) cos of the Qualcomm SoC, Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 960 is a beast but lacks outside support.
Being a security enthusiast, I want to have things like Kali Linux installed which I unfortunately can't.
Other than this reason, it's a smack down by Mate 9 over OP3T in every department (I don't care about OLED screens, this is just fine).
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Are you kidding me about Huawei durability? Also, lower performance? After a while??? Bro, I don't think you are talking about the Mate 9.
The only thing OP3T has over the Mate 9 to me is development (custom ROMs) cos of the Qualcomm SoC, Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 960 is a beast but lacks outside support.
Being a security enthusiast, I want to have things like Kali Linux installed which I unfortunately can't.
Other than this reason, it's a smack down by Mate 9 over OP3T in every department (I don't care about OLED screens, this is just fine).
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Thank you my friend. As i said, this is just something I've heard people say, and people who have only had mid-range Huawei phones. I am glad to hear that this is not the case with Mate 9. I'm not too worried about my security, and if the UI is fine (and it seems to be), i have no problem with not being able to install custom ROMs.
Thank you for helping me decide!
I had the OnePlus 3 not the 3t and I made the switch to the mate 9 and I have no regrets. The mate 9 is a super phone. The OnePlus is for ppl who likes to flash roms and I tried them all until I eventually got tired because it's more of the same. I love the battery on the mate 9! It all depends on what the user wants.
I switched from oneplus 3t.
Bigger screen, bigger battery, camera is way better. Custom ROMS? I`m fine with mate 9 rooted debloated stock
No I definetely dont regret about my oneplus 3t
Mate 9 easily. Bigger screen, bigger battery, faster charge, micro SD support. I've had both.
3T IS faster with 6 GB ram ( Comparitively I have 6GB Chinese model rebranded to USA of mate 9) but Battery life on 3T stinks compared to mate 9.
I think Mate 9 is still better than the last Oneplus 5.
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I have had the mate 9 for almost 3 months. I came from a LG G4 and it is a beast. I almost bought an op3t but the battery life and not overheating made me buy this phone. For me that was a must even playing high demanding games it runs cold.
Coming from an OP3, first I wanted to go back to my OP3, but gave the Mate 9 a chance.
After using the M9 for a week I couldn't go back...
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I went from the mate 9 to theOnePlus 3T via the G6 and the GS8. Put it this way: if the mate 9 had wifi calling (Tmobile), I would have never gotten any of the other phones I list. It's that good.
I came to the Mate 9 from the OnePlus 5, and the only thing I miss is the front-facing fingerprint sensor