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i think galaxy r has a weak DSP because it records 720p video and doesn't play 1080p videos and i think even 720p playback is limited to [email protected]/4 ref frames.
here is a 720p mp4 avc [email protected] sample for you to try and see if it works in stock player:
https://rapidshare.com/files/1822600111/720p_avc_high_l4_cabac_4_ref_frames.mp4
and here is a 720p mp4 avc [email protected] sample:
https://rapidshare.com/files/3012087529/720p_avc_high_4.1_cabac_4_ref_frames.mp4
the samples are only 2 mb, so please try them out in stock player and tell me the result.
thanx in advance
1) Why do you have to use a stock player if you can choose full HW-accelerated: Dice or MX player?
2)I have S2 - I can't really see the difference between 720p and 1080p on such small screen (4'3") and I don't think any human eye would see it
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1) Why do you have to use a stock player if you can choose full HW-accelerated: Dice or MX player?
2)I have S2 - I can't really see the difference between 720p and 1080p on such small screen (4'3") and I don't think any human eye would see it
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stock player also does hw acceleration, and if a dual core phone doesnt play 1080p video, then at least it should have full 720p support
yes but stock player doesn't play all video formats the two players above do.
BTW. these samples are far away from HQ-quality, especially divine enrique is extremely pixelated I don't think it'll make any difficulty for SGR, but let's wait and see.
m.kochan10 said:
yes but stock player doesn't play all video formats the two players above do.
BTW. these samples are far away from HQ-quality, especially divine enrique is extremely pixelated I don't think it'll make any difficulty for SGR, but let's wait and see.
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stock player doesnt play all formats because it does hw decoding only while mx and dice can do both hw and sw decoding which uses cpu and drains battery much faster than hw
and it is not about quality(bit rate), what matters is resolution(720p) and codec settings([email protected] frames)
I tried to play these 2 videos..
stock player was unable to play both the videos..
but. mx player with fast sw decoding played both clips very well...
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pankaj88 said:
I tried to play these 2 videos..
stock player was unable to play both the videos..
but. mx player with fast sw decoding played both clips very well...
Sent from my GT-I9103 using XDA
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what??? i cant believe it, so i guess max hw decoding support is 720p avc [email protected]/4 frames like this sample:
https://rapidshare.com/files/2823428502/720p_avc_high_3.1_cabac-4_ref_frames.mp4
and i guess the same goes for galaxy s advance which records 720p and doesn't play 1080p
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what??? i cant believe it, so i guess max hw decoding support is 720p avc [email protected]/4 frames like this sample:
https://rapidshare.com/files/2823428502/720p_avc_high_3.1_cabac-4_ref_frames.mp4
and i guess the same goes for galaxy s advance which records 720p and doesn't play 1080p
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same result for this video too..
stock player unable...
mx player played with fast sw decoding...
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same result for this video too..
stock player unable...
mx player played with fast sw decoding...
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well, this is unbelievable , what about [email protected]/3 frames?
https://rapidshare.com/files/3753950975/720p_avc_high_3.1-3_frames.mp4
hehe... theory faced reality
Vplayer is THE ONLY VIDEO PLAYER that can play full HD .mkv movies flawlessly,
so any other player here is short, Vplayer beats them in raw power hands down
nedooo said:
Vplayer is THE ONLY VIDEO PLAYER that can play full HD .mkv movies flawlessly,
so any other player here is short, Vplayer beats them in raw power hands down
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But its a paid app, mx player gives hw decoding and other stuffs for free
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m.kochan10 said:
hehe... theory faced reality
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yeah--my theory faced the phone s reality
It wasn't that bad, Be brave!
m.kochan10 said:
It wasn't that bad, Be brave!
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what do you mean???????
Nothing, just kidding. Cheers mate
Hey i have tried playin other videos using dice n mx, they wer able to play it but d nly prob is that they were a bit laggy....
Y so ??
Do all of u face d same prob ??
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our R only play 25 fps videos in only mp4 format but u can use other players like VPlayer to play like mkv format files ok
videos format
25fps - 720p
30fps - 1080p
but some times 1080p files are in 25fps so we can play it on our device ....
i xtremly recommanded to u use other players like VPlayer
coz in vpplayer we can play 30fps files but thay are some times little bit laggy
SbXLivE said:
our R only play 25 fps videos in only mp4 format but u can use other players like VPlayer to play like mkv format files ok
videos format
25fps - 720p
30fps - 1080p
but some times 1080p files are in 25fps so we can play it on our device ....
i xtremly recommanded to u use other players like VPlayer
coz in vpplayer we can play 30fps files but thay are some times little bit laggy
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Hey i tried using vplayer to play a video, its still lags.....
The video is a dvd rip movie and a mkx format (i guess, though not sure abt the format) and apprx 1.7GB. When i tried playing through stock app, it didnt played.
When i tried using mx and dice, they played but a bit laggy.
but when i used xplayer, its more laggy
and upon using hardware decoder in mx,dice its unable to play
is there any solution play such video without any lag on our R ??
vipul12389mehta said:
Hey i tried using vplayer to play a video, its still lags.....
The video is a dvd rip movie and a mkx format (i guess, though not sure abt the format) and apprx 1.7GB. When i tried playing through stock app, it didnt played.
When i tried using mx and dice, they played but a bit laggy.
but when i used xplayer, its more laggy
and upon using hardware decoder in mx,dice its unable to play
is there any solution play such video without any lag on our R ??
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this phone doesn't play anything in stock player(hardware decoding) above 720p [email protected]/3 ref frames, you can download media info to know the specs of the videos you want to play:
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en/Download
i guess if you want play anything above that smoothly using CPU( software decoding), you should use NEON optimized codecs for the player you installed like mx neon codecs from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.ffmpeg.v7_neon&feature=more_from_developer
but, you should install mx player first
Has anyone tried 10 bit video yet? How does the shield perform?
It works fine for me. I've played the Video in XBMC, MX Player and VLC. All of them are able to play my highest quality stuff (2GB MKV with a length of about 24 minutes) with SSA subtitles with no lag. However, in XBMC and MX Player there is noticeable corruption in the image and discoloration as well. It is worse the higher the bitrate with it being most unnoticeable with 10bit 720p video. There is a hint of it with 8bit, so much so I'm not sure if it is an optical illusion or not. For whatever reason I did not see this with VLC. I think it is because it was using software codec versus hardware codec. I'm not entirely sure because VLC would crash if I took it Auto for which Codec to use. Also the H/W+ codec in MX Player would crash no matter what video I tried to play (resolution or 8/10bit). Also XBMC would crash if I limited the codec to only Stagefright. The other Hardware Codec and Software Rendering worked just fine.
Dear trowgundam,
did you try the version v1.7.31 of MX Player Pro? It now supports natively the K1 but it isn't so stable...
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Dear trowgundam,
did you try the version v1.7.31 of MX Player Pro? It now supports natively the K1 but it isn't so stable...
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Just to clarify that I'm using v1.7.31 of MX Player Pro and the colour corruption\pixelation is still present with HW+ or HW decoder used. SW decoder works fine for most purposes. I see the same problem in XBMC (latest nightly) with Hardware acceleration used.
I did find the performance suffers a little bit with the SW decoder (got a lot of dropped frames on a very high bitrate version of Psycho-Pass I was watching but everything else seemed fine, nowhere near as bad as my old Nexus 10 however which is a massive plus). The tablet gets quite hot and battery life really suffers as I'm guessing only the CPU is being utilized?
It's a damn shame because the HW decoder works fine with 10-bit video apart from this problem but it can get so bad in certain scenes that it's not really usable.
Hi, Recently I've downloaded video 1080p from youtube but when playing it, the video laggy but the audio just playing properly fine...
I thought it because the decoder set to H/W, but when switched to S/W both video & audio become laggy, then try switched to H/W+ it become worse (doesn't support this kind video it says...).
When I see media info of video, it use VP9 format video.
Here is the video: www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
Is it something like bugs so the video didn't play properly? Or android can't play video with format VP9 properly?
Because I've tried other video 1080p, it can be played properly.
Oh FYI, I've tried using few other video player, and none of its can play the video as good as MX Player. That's why I've been using MX Player as default video player.
Hope there will be improvement on the next update so the video VP9 1080p can be played properly
MX Player is the best
All 1080p videos are not same.
It may lag at various parameters like higher frame rate, bitrate, color depth,....etc.
For example if you consider a video 1080p @ 30fps inorder to display 1 sec of videos it needs to decode 30 frames. Where as in 1080p @ 60 fps it requires 60 frames to be decoded. So, It will require the double power. Like wise various encoding parameters matters in video playback.
Second, H/W uses your hardware's native decoder . If the codec is natively supported by your device, H/W decoder will be the best option.
In case of S/W decoder, it supports more video formats since it depends on the ffmpeg. But, decoding will be completely done one CPU. So, it needs very high cpu power. That's why it's more laggy.
Night.Lurker said:
Hi, Recently I've downloaded video 1080p from youtube but when playing it, the video laggy but the audio just playing properly fine...
I thought it because the decoder set to H/W, but when switched to S/W both video & audio become laggy, then try switched to H/W+ it become worse (doesn't support this kind video it says...).
When I see media info of video, it use VP9 format video.
Here is the video: www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
Is it something like bugs so the video didn't play properly? Or android can't play video with format VP9 properly?
Because I've tried other video 1080p, it can be played properly.
Oh FYI, I've tried using few other video player, and none of its can play the video as good as MX Player. That's why I've been using MX Player as default video player.
Hope there will be improvement on the next update so the video VP9 1080p can be played properly
MX Player is the best
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VP9 isn't a widely supported format. That's likely why HW and HW+ don't work well with it; most devices don't have VP9 hardware acceleration.
SW rendering of a 1080p video is very demanding. Even on the most powerful devices, since there's no hardware acceleration, expect performance to be sub-par. Currently, devices on the market can only SW render 720p smoothly.
This being said, for SW mode, try Settings > Decoder > use speedup tricks. See if that helps a little bit on SW.
Ultimately, the best option is to reencode the video to something like H264/AVC mp4.
VP9 on KitKat+
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
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Can you explain more where you're trying to playback the video? VP9 support is built in to Android from KitKat+ and should not have an issue playing back. Additionally, can you try playing back the video on Chrome on Android and see if there are still decode issues?
Thanks.
ktsamy said:
All 1080p videos are not same.
It may lag at various parameters like higher frame rate, bitrate, color depth,....etc.
For example if you consider a video 1080p @ 30fps inorder to display 1 sec of videos it needs to decode 30 frames. Where as in 1080p @ 60 fps it requires 60 frames to be decoded. So, It will require the double power. Like wise various encoding parameters matters in video playback.
Second, H/W uses your hardware's native decoder . If the codec is natively supported by your device, H/W decoder will be the best option.
In case of S/W decoder, it supports more video formats since it depends on the ffmpeg. But, decoding will be completely done one CPU. So, it needs very high cpu power. That's why it's more laggy.
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CDB-Man said:
VP9 isn't a widely supported format. That's likely why HW and HW+ don't work well with it; most devices don't have VP9 hardware acceleration.
SW rendering of a 1080p video is very demanding. Even on the most powerful devices, since there's no hardware acceleration, expect performance to be sub-par. Currently, devices on the market can only SW render 720p smoothly.
This being said, for SW mode, try Settings > Decoder > use speedup tricks. See if that helps a little bit on SW.
Ultimately, the best option is to reencode the video to something like H264/AVC mp4.
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I see... So the point is the problem because most devices don't have VP9 hardware accelaration yet, especially for 1080p VP9...
Well... I've tried using SW speed up trick, it didn't much help...
Yeah...maybe the best option is to reencode the video to H264...or download 720p version..., cause the 720p VP9 can be played perfectly fine.
Still... I hope the MX Player developer team has plan to improve playback for 1080p VP9 video
Btw thanks for your answer bro
gurupanguji said:
Can you explain more where you're trying to playback the video? VP9 support is built in to Android from KitKat+ and should not have an issue playing back. Additionally, can you try playing back the video on Chrome on Android and see if there are still decode issues?
Thanks.
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As I said before, I'm trying to play 1080p VP9 video (that I've downloaded from youtube using IDM on computer) on my Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, & LG G2 using MX Player.
But when I playing it, the video is laggy on all devices...
Surely you can streaming it using youtube app & chrome android and it plays well till the end cause the available quality option in those apps is up to 720p (the 1080p quality option is hidden on those apps so I can't select it to test if it plays well or not).
Night.Lurker said:
Still... I hope the MX Player developer team has plan to improve playback for 1080p VP9 video
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That would be something you would have to ask the ffmpeg team to do, since MX uses their codecs. Unless the MX dev has a magic trick up his sleeve, I don't think there's much else MX can do to further improve SW playback performance for a video that exceeds the CPU's capabilities...
Likewise, on a hardware acceleration, it's limited by the hardwaree put in place by the manufacturer... so this aspect would need a new device.
Hi, i bumping this thread because i encountered the issue on some youtube vids too, but it's mostly playing fine, i think that with a few updates it will be good my phone is getting hot fast though.. (oneplus one)
VP9 1440p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNNfZuIA1GQ : fine
VP9 1080p with a lot of "motion" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGyZY4HNumw a bit laggy
I think I have already answered.
Read the second post. Video encoding parameters matters.
If you can't play in H/W or H/W+ decoder, Don't expect the smooth playback on S/W. It fully depends on CPU. If is laggy then your processor is not powerful enough. Sometime enabling the speed up tricks may reduce the lagging.
One more thing, using CPU will drain your battery faster than H/W. When CPU runs it's maximum speed for long time it will emit more heat which may lead to issues.
ktsamy said:
I think I have already answered.
Read the second post. Video encoding parameters matters.
If you can't play in H/W or H/W+ decoder, Don't expect the smooth playback on S/W. It fully depends on CPU. If is laggy then your processor is not powerful enough. Sometime enabling the speed up tricks may reduce the lagging.
One more thing, using CPU will drain your battery faster than H/W. When CPU runs it's maximum speed for long time it will emit more heat which may lead to issues.
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Okay thank you. Then i hope new processors will have vp9 decoding h/w
coc014 said:
Okay thank you. Then i hope new processors will have vp9 decoding h/w
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The chance of that happening, I can't see to be high. The MPEG consortium probably pays a lot to lobby chipset makers to only support MPEG formats, such as H.264 and H.265.
CDB-Man said:
The MPEG consortium probably pays a lot to lobby chipset makers to only support MPEG formats, such as H.264 and H.265.
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Lolno, it's just that industry is not interested in VP9. Even if they don't have to pay royalties they still have to develop asics (and h/w engineers are saying that it's not h/w friendly) and include them into the chip. It still costs a lot.
And what is the point of supporting vp9? It's an ugly google toy that they're ready to abandon (say hello to vp10 in 2015).
Ah yes, ASICs. I don't think manufacturers would be very happy at making more dies for new ICs. They already aren't happy with being forced to support Hi10p in H.265.
Forced? I would be happy if they were forced, but, at least Qualcomm, have no plans whatsoever
vivan000 said:
Forced? I would be happy if they were forced, but, at least Qualcomm, have no plans whatsoever
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Well, this sucks. Looks like we'll be waiting another generation... Where did you find that support chart?
Edit: We should move this discussion to the 10-bit thread. I'm going to quote you over there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/app...layer-10-bit-video-discussion-t2725241/page12
abput supporting vp9 1080p and undeleting files in mx player p higher andrpid version
first of all:
"Most probably you’re on Android marshmallow 6.0 API. If you’re trying to delete a video that is located on the external storage then its not possible due to some bug in the file system and mx player.
If you’re on the internal storage then MX player has only read only rights on the directory on which you’re currently on."
or just delete on your internal system file manager application.
Second answer about playng videos vp9
becayse you can't play vp9 if you download youtube videos with IDM (internet download manager)
because it is bull**** and its newer versions used idmmkvlib.01 codec.so when downloadimg it not only download andit convert into ist bull**** special format.so won't play withx pr others.try another downloader or manual download yt videos i recomend.
Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding 4K videos. I tried playing a 4K H265 10bit video on the phone using the native Sony Video app and, although it did play, it was slow as heck. Does the phone support such videos natively (i.e. Hardware Accelarated playback)? Is it an issue of the app itself? Since almost all 4k content, with or with HDR/10bit, is in H265 are we limited to Youtube and Amazon for 4K playback? Do I have to transcode all my 4K Blu-Ray movies to H264 in order to play them? Are there any third party players (e.g. bsplayer) that can play 4k videos (and utilize the phone's 4k resolution, not just play them in 1080p). Thank you all for your time.
I downloaded a 4k test sample encoded in x265 and played it with MX player app with hardware acceleration.
Worked perfectly. Smooth as butter.
fartyparty said:
i downloaded a 4k test sample encoded in x265 and played it with mx player app with hardware acceleration.
Worked perfectly. Smooth as butter.
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use mx player
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
Liltman said:
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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I think you can change the phones overall resolution to 4K for that purpose: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/mod-change-default-resolution-to-4k-root-t3618843
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Liltman said:
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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Tried with Sony Xperia Video app and the 4K sample I downloaded runs the same as it runs in MX Player.
kot5nik said:
I think you can change the phones overall resolution to 4K for that purpose: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/mod-change-default-resolution-to-4k-root-t3618843
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Kot5nik, in my opinion, changing the resolution that android runs is not the proper way to go. Since XZ Premium is a device that supports 4k/HDR i shouldn't have to resort to "adb" to watch a 4k video in another app. Plus, by doing that, battery drain increases a bit, phone dialer app does not work, app switching does not show thumbnails etc.
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Tried with Sony Xperia Video app and the 4K sample I downloaded runs the same as it runs in MX Player.
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FartyParty, I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. I took screenshots of both MX and Sony apps and the look identical. Only one difference though. It seems that MX Player doest not utilize HDR. There is a noticeable difference in contrast. You can see the attachments if you want to.
Liltman said:
Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding 4K videos. I tried playing a 4K H265 10bit video on the phone using the native Sony Video app and, although it did play, it was slow as heck. Does the phone support such videos natively (i.e. Hardware Accelarated playback)? Is it an issue of the app itself? Since almost all 4k content, with or with HDR/10bit, is in H265 are we limited to Youtube and Amazon for 4K playback? Do I have to transcode all my 4K Blu-Ray movies to H264 in order to play them? Are there any third party players (e.g. bsplayer) that can play 4k videos (and utilize the phone's 4k resolution, not just play them in 1080p). Thank you all for your time.
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Here is what i found from testing the device for 4K HDR videos
the device can and will play 4K H265 10bit and even HDR videos but there are things that need to be done to play perfectly
first you need to check for the containers to be mkv or mp4
second using sony app will not allow to play surround sound file like dts, ac3, AAC 5.1 or AAC 7.1
third which i think is very odd and stupid from sony is that how such a powerful device can't play mkv with AAC sound track no matter what stereo or surround.
The trick for this to use software where they can switch container without the need for converting the whole file from mkv to mp4.
Hi everyone,
I have to also agree with @Liltman and say that the MX Player does play video content in 4k however there is a very noticeable difference between the stock Sony album player and the MX player.
Sadly the Sony video player doesn't support truehd aac files so the video will play flawlessly without the sound :crying:
The MX Player on the other hand WILL play the sound but the quality of the video seems to take a small hit as it's not as vibrant as the Sony album player. This is because MX Player supports 4k but not HDR
I hope that Sony added codecs to make TrueHD sound files compatible with the Sony gallery player on Oreo but I am not very confident about that.
I would appreciate it if someone can find a way around this annoying issue. What software is @HYPER-RX referring to?
Thanks!
Try VLC guys. When I played an HDR video in VLC it tried to force my brightness to max like YouTube does. However, it had to ask for som system write permission to do it and it didnt work completely. See if VLC does a better job though I found it to be pretty good.
MX Player definitely does support HDR. You can tell because in HDR videos, if you try taking a screenshot, the screenshot will simply come out as black, whereas in SDR videos, you'll get a normal screenshot.
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Try VLC guys. When I played an HDR video in VLC it tried to force my brightness to max like YouTube does. However, it had to ask for som system write permission to do it and it didnt work completely. See if VLC does a better job though I found it to be pretty good.
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Hi I just tried VLC and you was spot on. I can see that it actually does support HDR however I'm still having audio issues with the sound. Especially the HEVC Atmos 7.1. Do I need to download a codec pack or something?
It's a shame because the video quality is incredible!
Working perfectly
I tried to play 4k hdr 60fps video using the sony video app. I had no issues with playing it. It was smooth no lags at all.
codec was hevc and bitrate was 75Mbps and audio was AAC.
nirai06 said:
I tried to play 4k hdr 60fps video using the sony video app. I had no issues with playing it. It was smooth no lags at all.
codec was hevc and bitrate was 75Mbps and audio was AAC.
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Thanks was this on Oreo? And the sound file was it 5.1 or 7.1?
Hey, seems like it is not possible to play a HEVC encoded video file? It is very laggy and can't play smoothly.
Anybody any idea?
Xkalbert said:
Hey, seems like it is not possible to play a HEVC encoded video file? It is very laggy and can't play smoothly.
Anybody any idea?
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Tried using MX Player in HW+ mode? I don't think hevc/heif is fully working, they're going to support it, but literally not even a mention as to whether the camera will even recod in these formats.