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I have just got an upgraded phone on Orange which is the HTC Hero, which I have given to my son on PAYG.
I put £10 credit on for him last Thursday - today it stands at £2, he hasn't made a phone call or sent any texts.
It seems that the phone is making data calls, he has had some Facebook messages and a few emails which shouldn't take alot of data usage, I have turned the weather updates off, email is now on manual send/receive as are Social networking etc.
Everytime the phone is on the credit is depleting at an alarming rate.
Can anyone offer any advice here or had a similar experience.
Thanks.
It's a data centric phone. Though you don't have to have data switched on all the time. See if Orange can provide some type of data bolt-on for a fixed fee.
Yeah... just create the data switch widget on the home screen and make sure it is off, unless needed. That's the first thing I do, since I don't have an unlimited data plan. Other than that, not much more you can do, unless you want to delete the data APN, in which case he will never have data connection.
Thanks for the info.
First I checked the account online - all GPRS data. I have disabled the app auto connection and left the mobile data on, touch wood its now okay it's not taken any more cash from his account for over 18hours now.
I've switched to Dolphin PAYG - should get free internet and 300 texts!
Thanks again
I've got a Sprint TP2 and was wondering if it ever automatically does VoIP if a WiFi connection is available. I Though it might to save bandwidth on the cell network.
Thanks.
I'm about 99% sure that it doesn't do that. It would need special software to be able to switch the call. Now if you wanted to do that, you could do it with Skype and Skypeout credits though.
No, never.
Keep in mind that carriers don't WANT to save bandwidth on the cellular network. They want to sell you bandwidth and do everything they can to use it up. They can't charge you for using WiFi.
Not only does this not happen automatically, but it's sort of difficult to do it on purpose if you want to. Skype, for example, no longer officially supports WM and existing versions don't like to use the ear speaker properly (though they do work in speakerphone mode).
With the Airave, which uses my personal TCP/IP bandwidth, I not only use cellular minutes but also pay a monthly fee for the privilege. It's not WiFi but rather a femtocell, but still provides an illustration of the basic concept that carriers are in no rush to save you from using their networks and giving them your money.
Was wondering about your comment on the AirRAVE.... this was taken right from Sprint site.
AIRAVE Enhanced Coverage Charge - $4.99/mo. (required per AIRAVE unit)**
Single Line Unlimited Calling Plan (optional) - $10/mo.**
Multi-Line Unlimited Calling Plan (optional) - $20/mo. per account**
Gregg
tornacl said:
Was wondering about your comment on the AirRAVE.... this was taken right from Sprint site.
AIRAVE Enhanced Coverage Charge - $4.99/mo. (required per AIRAVE unit)**
Single Line Unlimited Calling Plan (optional) - $10/mo.**
Multi-Line Unlimited Calling Plan (optional) - $20/mo. per account**
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You're making a point, but I can't tell what it is.
I pay $4.99 to use my Airave. By doing so, I use my cellphone as normal within range of the femtocell. "As normal" means that I use my plan minutes the same as at any other location, but with 1x instead of EvDO data.
If I paid extra (as above), I could make and receive unlimited "free" calls through the Airave. Since I've never in my life used my 500 minutes per month, there's no point in my doing so. I've got a perfectly good landline that continues to work during our frequent power outages and does not depend on our somewhat iffy cable internet's reliability, so I never really make calls on my cellphone at home anyway. We mostly have it to support our son's SMS addiction.
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try downloading fring. Free program.
hi all
so I am going out of the country later this week and had a simple silly question. I want to be able to use wifi on my phone for late night email checks. I do not want to accept calls or send text or use any data over the network.
are these the settings I need:
wifi - on (duh!)
mobile network - off
data roaming - connect to data services when roaming - off
Is there a setting for roaming for regular calls? I do not see it. note this is with a rooted inspire using rcmixkingdom.
thanks
aeneas3 said:
hi all
so I am going out of the country later this week and had a simple silly question. I want to be able to use wifi on my phone for late night email checks. I do not want to accept calls or send text or use any data over the network.
are these the settings I need:
wifi - on (duh!)
mobile network - off
data roaming - connect to data services when roaming - off
Is there a setting for roaming for regular calls? I do not see it. note this is with a rooted inspire using rcmixkingdom.
thanks
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I'll try and answer your questions, but I would still recommend you contact your mobile provider and confirm first. This is from my personal experience.
BE PREPARED ... THIS IS A LONG REPLY
Whenever you leave your service area, the area covered by your mobile provider's network, you enter what we call "roaming." Two things can now happen. Either your phone will not work at all in terms of calls or data, or everything will work. It depends on what agreement you have with your provider. With me, for example, I had long ago called my provider and asked them to NOT allow my phone to operate if I went "roaming." Then, suddenly, when I visited the U.S. last week, I realized that my phone wasn't working and remembered what I had told my provider. A quick phone call to them corrected the issue.
All that being said, if you are set up to roam with your provider, you need to consider a few of things.
One, you need consider where you're going. If you're in Canada, and you're traveling to the U.S., roaming charges may be somewhat expensive. If you're doing the reverse, visiting Canada from the U.S., the same would probably apply. However, if you're going overseas, your roaming charges could be quite expensive, as much as several dollars per minute, depending on the country. Data can also be expensive. For example, with my provider (Rogers - Canada), I have 500MB of data with my monthly plan; however, when I visited the U.S., my plan no longer applied, and I would be charged 3-cents per KB, or a whopping $3.00 per MB. I ended up buying a 10MB extra service fee for $10.00.
Okay, let's consider what you want to do.
If you only want to use WiFi, it will work perfectly if you have the WiFi name and password (if applicable). If you do NOT want to be able to take calls, send texts, or use data, you MUST TURN THEM OFF. Keep in mind, too, that certain programs may automatically access Data for up-dating, such as weather, stocks, sports scores, currency exchange rates, etc. You can turn off this automatic function, which I would suggest. I don't know exactly where this function is on your phone, but you'll have to check it out. This applies to the SYNC function as well. Turn OFF sync to make sure it doesn't accidentally access Data.
Now, for your other question re local phone calls. Once you leave your service area, your phone either works, or it doesn't. There is no other choice. If you don't want to accept calls from home, or make long distance calls, then you have to turn off roaming. If roaming is off, you cannot make local calls either.
Also, keep in mind that if you did make local calls, they would all be considered long distance because, as far as your provider is concerned, your phone's area code is static. If you leave your area code, ALL calls become long distance even though, if you're in another country, and you only want to make a phone call across the street, it will still be a long distance call. Think of it this way, billing begins the moment you press call on your phone, yet in this case, that call effectively begins from you home area code. Therefore, to make a call across the street, it would be identical to making the same call from you home, plus roaming charges.
There is one work-around for the local call issue. You could buy time from a local provider in the country where you will be travelling. This may end up being quite inexpensive. Think of it as a pay-as-you-go plan, if they offer it. So, you would simply remove your existing SIM card and replace it with a new one from the provider in the new country. Use it for local stuff. It may even include data, who knows?
When I visit China, which is rather often, I have a "pay-as-you-go" SIM card which I have with me when I visit. I always keep a balance on the account so they don't cancel it. Then, when I arrive, I make the SIM switch, and voila! Cheap local calls.
Peter
If ALL you want is data for email and internet, turn airplane mode ON (I use a power widget to have this close at my fingers, but you can long push the power button and the option is there as well as in menu>settings>wireless & networks) then turn wifi back on.
Airplane kills all radios, then you have the option to turn wifi only on (specifically for those airlines that provide wifi).
thanks guys! I figured I was going to call AT&T today to make sure but stealthpsycho - airplane + wifi will work wonders. I just tested it out at home and it is beautiful I am going to turn off roaming by calling just to make sure as well. In case I need to reboot and forget that airplane mode is not on.
thanks again!
Went to Vietnam a few weeks ago. Turning on airplane mode and then turning wifi back on does the trick you want.
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W00t! I gots a thx!!!
You're very welcome. I use this trick a lot at the school where I work, b/c I have no cell signal and I want to prevent cell searching. It's also a useful trick if you want to install market apps that AT&T blocks (I.E. PDAnet)
Easy way I go to Japan all I do is take out the sim. Wifi on.
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So I just got my N5 and now I'm having problems with data. Whenever I try to go to a website, it would just direct me to tmobile's login website and a sign into network notification pops up as well. When I log in, the website doesn't even load. I've tried changing APNs, network mode, custom roms and several solutions over the internet but nothing works. I have a grandfathered data plan so that might be the problem but it works fine on my Galaxy Nexus. I'm taking it to the store tomorrow but if anyone can suggest a solution it'd be great.
I have exactly the same issue. Please, let me know if you've solved it.
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So I just got my N5 and now I'm having problems with data. Whenever I try to go to a website, it would just direct me to tmobile's login website and a sign into network notification pops up as well. When I log in, the website doesn't even load. I've tried changing APNs, network mode, custom roms and several solutions over the internet but nothing works. I have a grandfathered data plan so that might be the problem but it works fine on my Galaxy Nexus. I'm taking it to the store tomorrow but if anyone can suggest a solution it'd be great.
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Any update on this issue? Having the same problem w/ 16GB black N5
Same issue, get popup saying to sign in, enter number and password, then get a screen that says "webpage is not available" Calls and texts work, just not data.
Have you calling T-mobile? 611 on your t-mobile phone?
Customer Service there has always been really good about helping me!
go into settings, wireless & networks, more, mobile data, accesspoint names, and make sure you APN is fast.t-mobile.com
tell me how it goes.
Also if any of you installed anything custom, go into settings : about phone, and see if you have a baseband and imei number listed, if not, try a factory reset, or taking it all the way back to stock. Some people are having similar issues in the kernel threads.
As bizarre as this might sound, give T-Mobile tech support a call and make sure your account is provisioned for an Android device. Apparently mine was configured for a Blackberry and while it didn't have any effect on my N4, it gave no end of trouble to my N5. (Read: I had the same redirect issues)
I'm having the same issue... My sim/account has worked fine with data on numerous phones, none of which were t-mobile phones but all worked with tmo data just fine. With Nexus 5, it is redirecting all http queries to a tmo signin page, whether with apn set to fast.t-mobile.com, epc.t-mobile.com, network type set to LTE, or 3G...
I guess I'll head to the local tmo store tomorrow and see if they can fiddle with my acct without dropping my older plan. It looks like my acct's data service is "T-Mobile Smartphone Unlimited Web" -- they picked that generic Smartphone service since they didn't know what my phone was (Nokia N900 running Maemo) when I first signed up for T-Mobile service. DeltaPavonis, I'll first have them see if they can switch that to something Android-specific. Although I dislike that the account can't just stay generic and work with any device I put my sim in...
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I'm having the same issue... My sim/account has worked fine with data on numerous phones, none of which were t-mobile phones but all worked with tmo data just fine. With Nexus 5, it is redirecting all http queries to a tmo signin page, whether with apn set to fast.t-mobile.com, epc.t-mobile.com, network type set to LTE, or 3G...
I guess I'll head to the local tmo store tomorrow and see if they can fiddle with my acct without dropping my older plan. It looks like my acct's data service is "T-Mobile Smartphone Unlimited Web" -- they picked that generic Smartphone service since they didn't know what my phone was (Nokia N900 running Maemo) when I first signed up for T-Mobile service. DeltaPavonis, I'll first have them see if they can switch that to something Android-specific. Although I dislike that the account can't just stay generic and work with any device I put my sim in...
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It does sound rather strange, which is why I'd to see if this works for anyone else. I spent about a day and a half mucking around with pretty much everything I could think of device-side and a few calls with tech support reps, then, lo and behold not fifteen minutes after my account gets re-provisioned from Blackberry to Android (and cycling airplane mode) the redirects stop.
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It does sound rather strange, which is why I'd to see if this works for anyone else. I spent about a day and a half mucking around with pretty much everything I could think of device-side and a few calls with tech support reps, then, lo and behold not fifteen minutes after my account gets re-provisioned from Blackberry to Android (and cycling airplane mode) the redirects stop.
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Thanks for the advice on what to ask for.
I went to a local store this morning. They seemed pretty clueless (the guy helping me was apparently really new -- he had never called cust svc on behalf of a customer before and kept having to ask for help about what to say or do). They ended up swapping my older sim for a new sim. That changed me from having this issue on HSPA to having this issue on LTE (so I guess that was good). Then they called cust svc and got to tech support. I wish I would have just called myself as the store person was a clueless middle man. And he kept holding my Nexus 5 like he was about to drop it.
Anyway, I guess the "data feature" on my account was an older one meant for windows phones (but that sometimes works on Android phones too). I think it was showing on my acct as something like "Budle Web SmartPhone". He switched the data feature to a different one that supposedly works with Android, Windows, iPhone. It fixed it about 30 mins after I left the store (after cycling airplane mode). He promised it didn't change my actual plan and is still unlimited data. On the tmo portal, it now shows as "4G Web - Unlimited"
So I think the bottom line is yea, call cust svc, get to tech support, and have them reprovision your data service/feature to the more modern one meant for all phones.
Oddly, I just noticed my $59.99 Even More Plus 500 TTW plan is now showing as a $29.99 plan. I can't wait to see if my next bill is actually cut in half or if this is just a display oddity.
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My situation is i have family plan ( "Even More Plus™ 3000mins + Unlimited Text + Unlimited Data(5GB PhoneFirstWebPlus)" and i am almost a decade old customer.
The situation that aggravates me the most is that the data plan works with brand new iPhone 5S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, any other unlocked android and windows mobile phones, yet Nexus One, Nexus 5 is getting redirected/blocked.
I was straight forward with all Reps i talked to, explained all detailed and technicality behind how their system is only blocking very small percentage of the customers. How many people still have $6-10 data plans and purchased nexus 5 or want to use their old nexus one? probably like 200-800 nation wide, most of customer already lost their old data plans.
Spend 90 mins with Loyalty Customer Care and Tech Support back and forth:
i was told that i would have switch to more expensive plan if i wanted to have the same amount of data and insisted that i don't need/use that much data and should go with 500mb or 2.5gb choice. Why would i downgrade or pay extra 35-45 dollars because T-mobile enforced a block on couple android phones, yet let iPhone users can use cheap data plans with no problem and no special configuration of phone(simply pop-in sim card and LTE data&speeds work) .
One of the chat session ended successfully, Rep promised to forward issue to upper management.
N5-stock everything, brand new SIM card, tried many APN settings, none worked for data. Perfect LTE reception, phone calls, text&mms messages, yet data block/redirect.
APN settings and operator's proxy server
psak said:
My situation is i have family plan ( "Even More Plus™ 3000mins + Unlimited Text + Unlimited Data(5GB PhoneFirstWebPlus)" and i am almost a decade old customer.
The situation that aggravates me the most is that the data plan works with brand new iPhone 5S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, any other unlocked android and windows mobile phones, yet Nexus One, Nexus 5 is getting redirected/blocked.
I was straight forward with all Reps i talked to, explained all detailed and technicality behind how their system is only blocking very small percentage of the customers. How many people still have $6-10 data plans and purchased nexus 5 or want to use their old nexus one? probably like 200-800 nation wide, most of customer already lost their old data plans.
Spend 90 mins with Loyalty Customer Care and Tech Support back and forth:
i was told that i would have switch to more expensive plan if i wanted to have the same amount of data and insisted that i don't need/use that much data and should go with 500mb or 2.5gb choice. Why would i downgrade or pay extra 35-45 dollars because T-mobile enforced a block on couple android phones, yet let iPhone users can use cheap data plans with no problem and no special configuration of phone(simply pop-in sim card and LTE data&speeds work) .
One of the chat session ended successfully, Rep promised to forward issue to upper management.
N5-stock everything, brand new SIM card, tried many APN settings, none worked for data. Perfect LTE reception, phone calls, text&mms messages, yet data block/redirect.
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First you need to make sure that APN name, user name, password and proxy settings are correct for your operator and data plan.
You will get this data by calling customer service.
What is actually blocking you is the operator's proxy server, the one found in APN settings.
Try to delete proxy IP and port or disable proxy server for your APN. After that try surfing to see if it works.
Many operators have their internal routing settings set up in way that data connection works without a proxy server.
If your data connection does not work when you remove proxy IP address and port from APN settings then connection without proxy is not allowed by operator.
Proxy server is used by operator to identify you as a customer on various operator's web portals where you can change your data plan settings, purchase stuff, etc. If your data connection works without proxy, you will not be able to access any operator's internal web page for customer access. But not much people actually need those web pages.
Proxy also tries to detect your device and adjust the looks of operator's web pages you visit according to your device.
If device model is not recognized by proxy for some reason (usually outdated device database on proxy server) it could forbid access to data services. In that case only solution is to call customer service again and again until they fix it.
Is it possible for applications to bypass Data Transmission switch and Roaming block?
I have been traveling abroad recently and even though I have Roaming Data disabled and Data Transmission disabled in the system I still got charged for data transmission.
I have travelled with it before last two trips and have not seen the problem.
Since I had similar situation last time I was traveling, I made sure that those settings are off couple of times over the course of the trip.
When I check data usage (Settings -> Data Usage) for that period is practically zero, but there are some Google apps listed for that period: Internet, Kids Mode, Youtube, Smart Remote, and Google Movies BUT they all list 0kB for usage and I'm not using neither KidsMode nor Smart Remote.
It does not look like operator related since I got charges from several countries.
Any ideas what might be going on? I will file a complaint for the charges with my operator (not counting on positive response there), but I still would like to use my phone when travelling, but if blocking data transmission is not enough to prevent roaming charges - what is?
For reference my phone is European Galaxy S5, running Stock, not rooted, 4.4.2 Android
thanks in advance,
Kubak
Data off from settings will surely off any transmission. No app is allowed to bypass that setting. Dont know if you are talking about check on data roaming, you should just off the data.
There could some problem with the data switching. Since your phone is not rooted it shoudn't happen but some apps may be doing this. Try flight mode/airplane mode. If problem still does not go OR if you want your data on Try the app permission management.
Settings-->Security-->App permission management.
Thanks for the replies guys!
To clarify - I have been always using the Roaming data off setting when traveling. And it worked until my last two trips.
On previous one I did not disable data since the setting always worked before. When I got charged for data, I made sure I additionally switch off the Data and keep it off during my trip.
The data usage meter on the phone shows 0.0 kB with several Google apps listed (as mentioned initially) they are all set to restricted mode - no background data.
It looks that IF there was any transmission it was small - one of the operators on route charged just 1kB, but ATT was happy to charge me 50kB up and down every time this happened?
The Airplane mode can be a solution but will pretty much "kill" the phone - I would still like to be able to be reachable under that number.
I was a bit suspicious of Llama app fiddling with data, but even that should not bypass the Roaming setting (and there would be a lot of data being transferred)
And the problematic part is I don't think I can check data usage with my operator in real time - I just learn from my monthly bill...
So it looks like "something" is bypassing the "no data in roaming setting" - but what?
Any suggestions are welcome
I had the same experience recently and I've figured it out. Even if your roaming function is turned off there are VOIP apps that can bypass your roaming and you will get charged for data. Facebook calls, Whatsapp calls and IMO calls are a few. I noticed the last time when I was travelling through the States (with my roaming off) that when a fb call rang my phone (I did not answer), every frickin' fb notification for the week came through during the duration of the ringing (remember ... I did not answer / connect to call), and I got dinged for 4 bucks for every one. The only way to get around it is to have phone on airplane mode or delete / uninstall the apps while you are away.