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Is it pretty much guaranteed that Verizon will be getting rid of unlimited data?

It's such a huge selling point for Verizon. No other carrier has true unlimited data. If they do cut unlimited data, do you think they'll go the route of T-Mobile and throttle users who go over 2GB? Or will they just starting charging fees?
What I don't get is how ISPs charge $30 a month and you can do whatever the hell you want but cell phone companies want to cap you at the same price. A 2GB cap can be blown through in a few weeks, if that.
Has there been any official word that it's going to happen?

They have said they are going to tiered plans, however that doesn't mean that they are getting rid of unlimited data (to my knowledge they haven't said they are getting rid of unlimited data) but I do believe they will. If they keep unlimited data I positive it would increase substantially.

Would we be grandfathered into the thirty dollar unlimited plan?
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Actually, AT&T has data caps. Their DSL service is capped at 150GB though. I couldn't care less if Verizon capped me at 150GB on my phone for 30 bucks.

Its a pretty difficult thing to predict right now. I believe they will cap 3g but not 4g.
For a 2 Hour HD movie you are using 3gb's of data. If Verizon caps it at 2gb you have already hit your limit. 4g is more for streaming videos thus the extra speed. Who needs a 10mb connection for checking Facebook? So I really can't see them tiering 4g, well let me rephrase that I think they will tier 4g but there will be an unlimited price for probably around $50 a month. 3g is much easier to think about since we have AT&T who already has a limit with it working fine (As in people are able to do everything they already do while staying in the limit.... Well most people)
So basically right now I feel there is no way they can get away without having an unlimited plan for 4g. Plus from what I have heard the towers are much cheaper to build than the 3g towers so if bandwidth becomes a problem there can be second or even third towers built in trouble areas.
"Actually, AT&T has data caps. Their DSL service is capped at 150GB though. I couldn't care less if Verizon capped me at 150GB on my phone for 30 bucks."
That is a land line cap and has nothing to do with mobile phones. Verizon will not set a mobile cap at 150gb that is ludicrous.

According to their upper management they never had a long term plan to keep the unlimited data plans available. My rep believes the plan is to put them into plans that are similar to their existing data plans for other devices that don't have unlimited offers (USB modems, Mifi, embedded cards, etc.) Right now it's 5GB for $50 and 10GB for $80 but the assumption is they may drop the pricing because of the number of users that would be adopting the new plans. That's pretty much all I've heard so far (and it's mostly rumor and speculation anyways.)

My guess is they will wait to see if AT&T can buy T-Mo. They wont get rid of unlimited until that falls through. If it goes through, expect it to stay.
LTE is a new game completely. I dont think they want to start out by tarnishing it.

The rep at the store said there are no plans to get rid of it, but I guess he doesn't know much.
All I can say is its not certain, however, I would hope they fix any 4g issues and expand coverage (remember the outage) before they start to change their data plans.

if they change there plans can we get out of our contracts for free?

mbrown3460 said:
if they change there plans can we get out of our contracts for free?
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Sure, as long as you pay the early termination fee.

dbisch said:
Sure, as long as you pay the early termination fee.
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Not quite. If they breach the terms of their contract, we have the option to leave. Since the ETF is part of the contract in breach, we wouldn't have to pay the ETF. Or we can choose to remain grandfathered and continue to enjoy our unlimited plans.

necosino said:
Not quite. If they breach the terms of their contract, we have the option to leave. Since the ETF is part of the contract in breach, we wouldn't have to pay the ETF. Or we can choose to remain grandfathered and continue to enjoy our unlimited plans.
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I'm sure there's some clause in the TOS that says "plans are subject to change blah blah blah."

dbisch said:
I'm sure there's some clause in the TOS that says "plans are subject to change blah blah blah."
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There's a clause that states if they change the price you can get out of the contract without and etf

eraursls1984 said:
There's a clause that states if they change the price you can get out of the contract without and etf
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Only if it has a materially adverse effect on you. If they offered a $30 a month 3G plan as the maximum plan option with 5GB or 10GB on the phones, then the cost could only get cheaper for you, thus no materially adverse effects. If they offered higher tiers then it becomes a bit of a question, as you might need a higher tier which would adversely affect you, but verizon might be able to claim you don't really need it and it is your choice to pay more. All in all, enough *****ing can get you out of anything.

ben7337 said:
Only if it has a materially adverse effect on you. If they offered a $30 a month 3G plan as the maximum plan option with 5GB or 10GB on the phones, then the cost could only get cheaper for you, thus no materially adverse effects. If they offered higher tiers then it becomes a bit of a question, as you might need a higher tier which would adversely affect you, but verizon might be able to claim you don't really need it and it is your choice to pay more. All in all, enough *****ing can get you out of anything.
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If they take away unlimited data or increase in price that has a material adverse effect on me.

Home ISPs do limit bandwidth, or at least monitor it. After downloading about 2.5TB of movies and music in 30 days, they called me to tell me I either needed to reduce my usage drastically or upgrade to their most expensive plan (which gave faster downloads, incidentally) and so now I pay $99.99 a month for home internet.

nerozehl said:
Home ISPs do limit bandwidth, or at least monitor it. After downloading about 2.5TB of movies and music in 30 days, they called me to tell me I either needed to reduce my usage drastically or upgrade to their most expensive plan (which gave faster downloads, incidentally) and so now I pay $99.99 a month for home internet.
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Holy cow! That's a ton of downloading! All legally?
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miketoasty said:
Holy cow! That's a ton of downloading! All legally?
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I'll only say that I used most of the bandwidth on usenet.

nerozehl said:
I'll only say that I used most of the bandwidth on usenet.
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Well played, sir.

data will be grandfathered in for those who already have it..
I work for VZW and per your contract you Will be able to keep your Unlimited plan for data. However like At&t, if you upgrade to a new phone after the plans go to tiered pricing which will happen, you will need to select one of the current plans which may or may not include a option of unlimited data... The biggest question at this time and what nobody at Verizon can actually claim to know will be when or how much the new plans will cost or if Big Red will start throttling the heavy users which at this time they are not doing at all.

Now Monthly 4G for T-mobile

T-mobile just announced few of their new 4G prepaid plan today. You can get unlimited talk / text with 2GB of high speed data for $60 without signing any contract.
This plan is better than simple mobile $60 plan since simple mobile is only good for 1GB of data.

pbcal said:
T-mobile just announced few of their new 4G prepaid plan today. You can get unlimited talk / text with 2GB of high speed data for $60 without signing any contract.
This plan is better than simple mobile $60 plan since simple mobile is only good for 1GB of data.
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Huh? 1GB? I have been with SM for more than 2 yrs and I reach 2gb or more every month with no cap.
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It's about a month old, I switched from flex pay to this earlier this month. I was a bit irritated when I found this out. I had to log out of my account to find it because if you are logged in it wont let you see it. So I instantly cancelled my flex pay account because I was paying more for less....

if you dont talk much like me go for the $30 100 min unl text and data up to 5gb

I don't care for data caps myself.

well unless you have a grandfathered plan you have a cap nowdays...except for sprint and their joke of a 4g network

F'ing T-Mobile, when I signed up for it, it said there was no limit on the $70/month plan. Now all the sudden there is. I was wondering at first what $60 plan he was talking about, because when I set mine up there were two options, $50/month for unlimited talk and text, and 2gb data 4g, and the other was $70 unlimited everything. Now there's a bunch of different things and caps on everything.. I feel scammed.

that is why there is no contract , they can change anytime they want.. if you want fix price go w/ contract where they can't increase the prices for your usage.

Questions for T-Mobile users.

Alright, so currently I have an S3 with T-Mobile and I'm paying around $100 for just my line that includes 500mins, unlimited data and text.
I rarely break the 150min mark each month so I would definitely like to change my plan to something that offers less minutes. Makes no sense on paying for something I don't use, right.
What would be my best option right now? Go on a prepaid plan and buy the Nexus 5 from the playstore? Is there a hassle from switching to a normal plan to a prepaid plan with T-Mobile?
I would be more than happy paying less to get 200mins, unlimited text, and data. 2.5 or 5gb before throttling is fine with me.
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The T-Mobile $30 plan.. 100 minutes, unlimited texts, 5GB of 4G LTE.
Just add like $50 every month and you'll have around , what.. 275-300 minutes you can use.
But if you're still on contract with T-Mobile, the ETF is $200.
And yes, you can buy the phone from the Play Store.

Wow that's crazy expensive. My T-Mobile plan is $120/month for 3 lines, unlimited everything. Data IS throttled after 500mb though. Not an issue for me since I'm always on wifi. I can bump it to unlimited for an extra $20

IXChicharitoXI said:
Alright, so currently I have an S3 with T-Mobile and I'm paying around $100 for just my line that includes 500mins, unlimited data and text.
I rarely break the 150min mark each month so I would definitely like to change my plan to something that offers less minutes. Makes no sense on paying for something I don't use, right.
What would be my best option right now? Go on a prepaid plan and buy the Nexus 5 from the playstore? Is there a hassle from switching to a normal plan to a prepaid plan with T-Mobile?
I would be more than happy paying less to get 200mins, unlimited text, and data. 2.5 or 5gb before throttling is fine with me.
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Not sure how you're paying so much for the classic 500min plan, maybe you got extra services along with it? Should only be $85/w tax. And if you said you don't use as much minutes then go with the prepaid $30/mo like that person said. Or you can go with straight talk for $45/mo unlimited talk text and web (might throttle 2.5gb). I'm not sure if they are still selling GSM sim cards because they kept being pulled off the shelves.
Synyster06Gates said:
Wow that's crazy expensive. My T-Mobile plan is $120/month for 3 lines, unlimited everything. Data IS throttled after 500mb though. Not an issue for me since I'm always on wifi. I can bump it to unlimited for an extra $20
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Well you're on the new simple/value plans that T-mobile has. 3 lines should cost you $90 ($50 first line $30 second $10 add a line) for unlimited talk text and unlimited web throttled at 500mb. You might be over paying as well unless you have the 2.5gb data plan or the jump plan services.

Deekayy said:
Well you're on the new simple/value plans that T-mobile has. 3 lines should cost you $90 ($50 first line $30 second $10 add a line) for unlimited talk text and unlimited web throttled at 500mb. You might be over paying as well unless you have the 2.5gb data plan or the jump plan services.
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Unfortunately I am over paying by $30. I didn't get the simple value plan. I switched from AT&T right before they ended the classic unlimited contracts. What really sucks is the T-Mobile service went to **** in my area a few days after my "2 week trial period" (that was really maybe a week after getting the phones shipped and activated) and they refuse to help me out in any way. It's a story for another time, but I'm absolutely furious at T-Mobile.

I got the Ptel Paygo plan (on T-Mobile network), I don't really need data (on wifi almost everywhere, with T-Mobile 4G hotspot at $17.50/mo for 1.75gb). 5 cents per minute. Bought a $100 card with coupon for $78, so 2000 minutes for a year. Haven't got my sim yet, will run speed test once I get it.

Deekayy said:
Not sure how you're paying so much for the classic 500min plan, maybe you got extra services along with it? Should only be $85/w tax. And if you said you don't use as much minutes then go with the prepaid $30/mo like that person said. Or you can go with straight talk for $45/mo unlimited talk text and web (might throttle 2.5gb). I'm not sure if they are still selling GSM sim cards because they kept being pulled off the shelves.
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Yeah, I think I'm being charged $8 or $10 for insurance on the phone.
How exactly do pre paid plans work? I assume the bill won't arrive to my house anymore? Do I have to to to the T-Mobile store before the month ends to pay for the following month before it gets disconnected?
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Also if I were to sign up for the pre paid plan. Could I bring the phone to a T-Mobile store and could they activate the new sim at the store or do I have to do it myself online?
Thank you for the responses everyone, i really appreciate it.
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Synyster06Gates said:
Unfortunately I am over paying by $30. I didn't get the simple value plan. I switched from AT&T right before they ended the classic unlimited contracts. What really sucks is the T-Mobile service went to **** in my area a few days after my "2 week trial period" (that was really maybe a week after getting the phones shipped and activated) and they refuse to help me out in any way. It's a story for another time, but I'm absolutely furious at T-Mobile.
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That's unfortunate, sorry to hear. So you're on a 2-year contract then I suppose? Did you get basic phones or smart phones when you signed up? If anything you can always try to call customer service (Dial 611) and ask to be switched to the new simple choice plan but they might charge you a $200 migration fee per line. In that situation, you can probably argue that your service has not been working well ever since you got it and hopefully they'll work something out.
IXChicharitoXI said:
Yeah, I think I'm being charged $8 or $10 for insurance on the phone.
How exactly do pre paid plans work? I assume the bill won't arrive to my house anymore? Do I have to to to the T-Mobile store before the month ends to pay for the following month before it gets disconnected?
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The only service that does that still bills to your house is T-Mobile Family Mobile (only in walmart) $39.88/mo unlimited talk text unlimited web 2.5 throttle (3G, some say 4G). That service is no contract and you can set auto pay with your debit/credit card or pay at any walmart location.
Other T-mobile pre-paid services is the "monthly 4G" which you will need to purchase a pre-paid card at any convenience store and refill your service at the end of each month. Or you can pay the balance of the bill online through T-Mobile prepaid website. If you don't pay your remaining balance by the end of the month it will get shut off and I believe T-Mobile will hold for 7-14 days before they release the number.
I can't give you a suggestion on which service you should use because I use both Verizon and T-Mobile services (note 2 and nexus 5) on a dealer line. Believe it or not, T-Mobile pulls off 21mb vs verizon 12mb in my home. If anything i'd start with the $30 pre-paid plan and test out the service to see whether or not it works in your area. If you feel that you get a lot of drop calls, you can try the actual T-Mobile service (Simple choice plan) because it's running on a primary network. Don't want to get too technical on why contracts vs pre-paid services are good or bad.
Replying to your second question:
You can purchase a Sim starter kit on the actual T-mobile site and you can activate it yourself, very easy. Follow the steps and select the plan that you desire.
t-mobile (dot) com/shop/plans/activatecodes (dot )aspx

Deekayy said:
That's unfortunate, sorry to hear. So you're on a 2-year contract then I suppose? Did you get basic phones or smart phones when you signed up? If anything you can always try to call customer service (Dial 611) and ask to be switched to the new simple choice plan but they might charge you a $200 migration fee per line. In that situation, you can probably argue that your service has not been working well ever since you got it and hopefully they'll work something out.
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I will attempt to do this over the weekend. I am on a 2 year contract. When we signed up, I got a Galaxy S3, an LG F3, and an LG F6.
Since we started, none of the phones will reliably get phone calls or text messages. More often than not when people try to call us (even the T-Mobile reps calling me back) the phone will ring on their end, but I never get a ring or even missed call notification. A voice-mail will randomly pop up later in the day. Text messages will stop for hours on end then all of a sudden 10 or so will come to my phone at once. MMS won't reliably send or download. It's been a FRUSTRATING experience to say the least.

Longtime user needs advice for plans

I currently have 3 lines with VZW. My first line is my grandfathered unlimited data plan that I've bought full retail phones for over the past several years, and currently have a Note 3. The second line is my wife's 6gb/mo $30 plan. We share Unlimited Text/MMS and a 700 min per month voice package. Recently, I added a third line for my daughter, bought her an S5, and she was supposed to also share the 700 min and my wife's 6gb a month. I got an alert that my daughter was at 75% of her usage after only a week, so I went online to find out a few things:
They didn't share the data but gave her a separate 2gg/mo plan for $30
They told me they can't share data between certain lines, and data can only be shared if all lines on the account are sharing
My bill is now $270 per month
I am seriously considering ditching Verizon since $270 is absurdly high. What would you all suggest? I figured that everyone here is probably similarly familiar with what I'm going through and might be able to offer some kind of advice or recommendations.
Thanks in advance,
Jesse

Yeah, $270 is extremely high. I guess the biggest factor is the amount of data to get.
You probably need to consider things like whether you need unlimited data or not, and try to figure out how data you and your family members need. If you are looking to get as much data as you can for the money, the best value is T-Mobile. The family does not share the data, but each get a pool of data for themselves and unlimited talk and text are included. So for a family of 3 like yours, you can EACH get 5gb of data for $150/month + fees/taxes. Heck, even unlimited data for all of you guys would only cost $180/month+fees/taxes. You can keep your phones and just bring them to T-Mobile, assuming they are all 4G LTE capable. You can pick and choose the plans on their website: http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/family.html
Also, if you live in a city or metro area, T-Mobile has very decent coverage.
Hope this helped. Good luck!

Was in the same situation had my grandfathered unlimited with Verizon. I pushed the HTC rezound as far as I could, but couldn't justify having 5 different phone plans with data as I have my wife and I plus the in laws on our plan. I ended up sacrificing my unlimited for a family share plan. With the specials they were running I went with edge with 17 GB shared data plan and my bill runs about $230 and I get new phones again so far I'm happy.
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Monthly cost for 4g S2 on AT&T?

Can someone on a mobile share plan please mention what the monthly cost for an S2 connected to your plan is? AT&T's website is incredibly cryptic about this. FAQ says:
What’s the cost to use NumberSync for wearables?
There’s no additional cost beyond that of the wireless rate plans for your wearable device and smartphone. Note that data rates, rather than messaging rates, apply when you use NumberSync to send and receive text messages.
Not sure what that means. Is it free? Is it $10 extra/month? Getting a straight answer seems to be cloaked in ambiguity. Why aren't they just upfront like "putting this cellular capable wearable on your account will cost you an extra $10/month every month."
EDIT: nevermind, I see it now. $10/month. Nah, not worth paying $240 over 2 years to me. I thought with the numbersync feature, it would have been free since it re-uses your existing number (i.e. no need to occupy a new second number). Oh well.

I called At&t about this. The lady told me that with the 15gb mobile share plan that I have now, the watch's line will cost $15 a month. I told her that I'm planning on going to a 2gb a month plan next billing cycle and she said that the price for the watch will go up to $20 a month. That is ridiculous. Plus the 3g watch is over a 1/2" thick. I'll just get the Bluetooth only version.

I have the Gear S2 3G on AT&T, and I had the LG Watch Urbane 2 before that. The watch plan costs $10/month, but after the administrative and government fees, it's $15.18/month. It's very similar in cost to a tablet plan.
Honestly, I don't use the standalone features of the watch very much, so I'm thinking of canceling the plan. I bought the watch off-contract for $299, and I think it is great. However, it is rarely unpaired from my phone via Bluetooth, so the extra 3G plan just seems like a waste. I would probably use the standalone features more often if Samsung allowed the watch to be paired to a tablet. I have a Samsung Tab S2 with voice capability, so it would be nice to dump the phone and just use my tablet and watch all the time.

If you can get out of contract tmobile advertises it for five more dollars a month.

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If you can get out of contract tmobile advertises it for five more dollars a month.
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Tmobile has it for $5 a month if you have their service for their phones. I am with Sprint so I pay Tmobie $15 a month for my gear s2's plan.
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wow, even my verizon plan, who is always stupid expensive was only 5 bucks more a month.

gerstyd said:
wow, even my verizon plan, who is always stupid expensive was only 5 bucks more a month.
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Its just because I don't have anything with tmobile but the watch. I'm not worried about it.
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NinjaMom said:
Its just because I don't have anything with tmobile but the watch. I'm not worried about it.
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Can you mix carriers? What I mean is....will the number forwarding features and auto switching to 3g mode work if you use say a Verizon Phone with a T Mobile Gear S2?

fluidj said:
Can you mix carriers? What I mean is....will the number forwarding features and auto switching to 3g mode work if you use say a Verizon Phone with a T Mobile Gear S2?
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It works for me with a Sprint phone and a Tmobile watch.
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