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The LG beast is here in india. Its currently little pricier than expected, but its STILL ok. If you see best but rare features these days of this phone (like, removable battery, FM Radio, seperate 2 SIM +1 SD card slot), 54K INR is still good deal at this earlier stage.
Here is main features and technical specifications of this beast. Below features are for Indian Version of this device:
Main features & details
16MP+8MP dual primary camera with wide-angle lens and 5MP front facing camera
14.47 centimeters (5.7-inch) QHD IPS multi-touch capacitive dual screen with 2560 x 1440 pixels resolution and 513ppi pixel density
Android v7.0 Nougat operating system with 2.15GHz + 1.6GHz Kryo Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 quad core processor, Adreno 530 GPU, 4GB RAM, 64GB internal memory expandable up to 2TB and dual SIM (nano+nano) dual-standby (4G+4G)
3200mAH lithium-ion battery providing talk-time of 14 hours and standby time of 136 hours
1 year manufacturer warranty for device and 6 months manufacturer warranty for in-box accessories including batteries from the date of purchase
Product Tech Information:
OS - Android
RAM - 4 GB
Product Dimensions - 16 x 0.8 x 7.8 cm
Item model number - LGH990DS
Wireless communication technologies - Bluetooth, WiFi Hotspot
Connectivity technologies - GSM, (850/900/1800/1900 MHz), UMTS, 3G, (850/900/2100 MHz), 4G LTE with VoLTE, GPRS, EDGE, WiFi
Special features - Dual SIM, GPS, Music Player, Video Player, FM Radio, Fingerprint sensor, Proximity sensor, Ambient light sensor, Accelerometer, Digital compass, Gyroscope, Hall IC, Barometer, E-mail
Other camera features - 5MP Front cam
Form factor - Touchscreen Phone
Weight - 172 Grams
Colour - Titan/Silver
Battery Power mAh - 3200
Phone Talk Time - 14 Hours
Phone Standby Time (with data) - 136 Hours
Whats in the box - Handset, Charger, USB Data Cable, Stereo Ear Microphone and Quick Start Guide
LG V20ds review: http://www.fonearena.com/blog/203410/lg-v20-review.html
Availability & Buying Guide: It is availabe at offline e mobile shops and online exclusively on Amazon at 54k.
NOW THE MAIN THING. LETS TALK, SHARE, DISCUSS ABOUT THIS BEAST HERE. SO THAT WE CAN GET ALL INFO RELATED TO V20ds (Indian Variant) AT ONE AND CONVENIENT PLACE HERE.
(apart from general discussion, suggestion and tips for this thread welcome. I will be editing and adding new stuff to this thread in future.)
And Please Don't Forget To Hit THANK If This Thread Is Helpful Somehow...
I bought the titan a day before the launch by trading my s7 and i am very happy with the purchase. Thank you for starting this thread. Hope they give a free a battery for early buyers. Only one problem when u shift data to sim2 it completely disables jio on sim1 including volte which never used to happen on s7. Alteast volte was on and jio data would get disabled which is fine.
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After several days of waiting, thinking, reading, research, took the plunge and bought from Amazon.
Can't believe how light the phone feels even with the case on.
Here are a few things I think need a conversation
1. Camera auto modes, seem a bit slow and not so good in picture quality for low light shots, has anyone tried an alternative app. I installed Pixel camera apk 4.2, it doesn't show the hdr option, but is functional enough to click pictures, will post inputs on image quality after some more clicks.
2. Any recommendations for tempered glass screen protector.
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Is there B&O logo in the back ?
My V20 dosent have.
Saw few reviews all units have the logo at back.
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Is there B&O logo in the back ?
My V20 dosent have.
Saw few reviews all units have the logo at back.
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Nope, no B&O logo on mine either, also the headphones included are not the ones branded H3 as seen elsewhere (mainly US) , those are just branded B&O play, and normal (unlike the picture in 1st post) , also no carry pouch.
Has anyone been able to find good accessories for the phone yet, everything on ebay and amazon is overpriced currently.
has anyone got a good tempered glass ? I am thinking to buy it today ...
Any one knows a way to set the first sim to run on 2G only mode and the other, which I use for data only, on 3G only?
This gives me clearer voice call quality and save me some battery energy I believe. I can do that on both Samsung Note 7 and S7 Edge before.
Thanks,
I am thinking to buy either this or a oneolus 3t hows the battery back for v20 and are we able to root it ? Is it worth the extra 20 k? Please share your thoughts I would be buying it before weekend
sandeeppathak007 said:
I am thinking to buy either this or a oneolus 3t hows the battery back for v20 and are we able to root it ? Is it worth the extra 20 k? Please share your thoughts I would be buying it before weekend
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There is no comparison...this has Quad HD Screen + Dual Camera + Dual Sim + Micro SD.
Oneplus 3T is good for its price, but no comparison
anshkhanna said:
There is no comparison...this has Quad HD Screen + Dual Camera + Dual Sim + Micro SD.
Oneplus 3T is good for its price, but no comparison
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hey, Thx a lot, one last query, is root available for the Indian Model, and how about the future updates ? Is google assistant available here or not ?
watsinaname said:
Nope, no B&O logo on mine either, also the headphones included are not the ones branded H3 as seen elsewhere (mainly US) , those are just branded B&O play, and normal (unlike the picture in 1st post) , also no carry pouch.
Has anyone been able to find good accessories for the phone yet, everything on ebay and amazon is overpriced currently.
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Hi,
Even I felt the same about the earphones, my sony xb's sound better than the B&O what we got, also checked with my frnds in the US, they did'nt get those with the phone but had to register and got it a week or two later (but a genuine one, better packing and all.....). My question is are we being played for, coz there is absolutely no difference in the price to US and here, these B&O sound like the one I got with G4. Can we raise this issue/concern anywhere.....tried contacting the LG cust CC but they have no clue.
Can any one provide kdz file for India LG V20 H990DS model.
Thanka
Finally india users get the Dec software update.
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Any changes in December update??
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Quite zippy after update
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Honestly don't feel any diff. Its a gem of a phone
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arun_crux said:
Hi,
Even I felt the same about the earphones, my sony xb's sound better than the B&O what we got, also checked with my frnds in the US, they did'nt get those with the phone but had to register and got it a week or two later (but a genuine one, better packing and all.....). My question is are we being played for, coz there is absolutely no difference in the price to US and here, these B&O sound like the one I got with G4. Can we raise this issue/concern anywhere.....tried contacting the LG cust CC but they have no clue.
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Branding is diff that's all. They are the H3. They sound awesome. Try Alibaba for acessories. I ordered a Pierre Cardin leather case and Nilkin tempered glass. They also have spare battery charging kit for 3.7k.
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mehtamitul said:
Honestly don't feel any diff. Its a gem of a phone
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Branding is diff that's all. They are the H3. They sound awesome. Try Alibaba for acessories. I ordered a Pierre Cardin leather case and Nilkin tempered glass. They also have spare battery charging kit for 3.7k.
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Thx for reassurance.... but somehow I still feel its nothing close to 15k-18k headphone, anyway it is what it is........ Yup, saw a few good accesories in Alibaba, but ordered the spare batt and cradle charger from Amazon.com (got it for like 2.5k).... will get my hands on it soon......but like u said Gem of a Phone.........
Brought this last month and i must say, it is a pretty good phone. I hope a root method becomes available for this variant in near future.
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Thx for reassurance.... but somehow I still feel its nothing close to 15k-18k headphone, anyway it is what it is........ Yup, saw a few good accesories in Alibaba, but ordered the spare batt and cradle charger from Amazon.com (got it for like 2.5k).... will get my hands on it soon......but like u said Gem of a Phone.........
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You are right they aren't worth the price claimed. Nevertheless they actually fine tunes to the sound really well. Would it be possible to share the Amazon link via PM for the battery charging kit? Also keep in mind they are giving 6 month free screen replacement.
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mehtamitul said:
You are right they aren't worth the price claimed. Nevertheless they actually fine tunes to the sound really well. Would it be possible to share the Amazon link via PM for the battery charging kit? Also keep in mind they are giving 6 month free screen replacement.
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here u go
https://www.amazon.com/LG-Battery-C...qid=1484257575&sr=1-3&keywords=lg+v20+battery
https://www.amazon.com/Spigen-Extre...&qid=1484259587&sr=1-3&keywords=lg+v20+spigen
b/w didnt know that there was 6 months screen replacement thing...... I bought this in B'lore need to chk with the dealer then.... he didn't say a word about it....... thanks for the info....
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I’ve been quite a fan of Xiaomi products ever since I used the awesome little Mi 2S. Till date, the phone is among the most favourite ones that I’ve ever owned!
Come 2014, and I was tempted by more releases… iBuyGou sent over a Xiaomi Mi 4, and although I got to use a lot of phones this year, the Mi 4 and the OnePlus One remain to be among my favourites. And I’m a littlleeee skewed towards the Mi 4 thanks to my preference for smaller phones. Basically, phones that fit in my pocket.
I do a lot of traveling on the motorbike and prefer to have the phone in my pocket than anywhere else. 5.5 inch phones haven’t gotten to a level where they’d fit (in thee sitting position), and therefore the Mi 4 pretty much hits the bullseye as far as size is concerned.
Unboxing video
Form factor… and feel
The Mi 4 looks a lot like another popular phone. The latest edition of that ‘popular phone’ is known for a very unique feature, i.e., bending. However, the Mi 4 looks more like a mashup of the previous versions of the phone. If you are a sucker for original design, you should totally stay out. If not… let’s talk!
The bezels are extremely thin, thinner than any other phone I’ve ever owned. This is really what makes the 5-inch phone in a pocket a possibility, really. A lot of other phones have slim bezels, but the top and bottom part of these devices really makes up with abnormally large chunks of bezel. The Mi 4 however doesn’t do anything of that sort, and offers a very one-handed-usable experience.
The edges on the device are chamfered… or tapered if you like to call it that. This is more noticeable on the part that blends into the front than the rear. Not only does it give the Mi 4 a lovely visual appeal, but also makes the device easier to use… and your hands harder to slit.
Xiaomi phones traditionally featured buttons on the right, with the ability to change the look and feel because they’re attached to the rear cover. This changed with the Mi 3, which didn’t offer a removable rear at all. The Mi 4 does a bit better and does give you the liberty of taking off the rear… if you have a suction cup handy. And even if you do, you do not have the ability to swap the battery which is a bit of a shame. A bit. User replaceable batteries are overrated!
The front of the Mi 4, as I said before, will remind you of ‘the other phone that shan’t be named’. On the top there’s the earpiece in a little slot of its own. I like it when earpieces are at the same level as the body, they otherwise tend to be dust magnets. Anyway.
On the left of the earpiece you see a little back spot which hides the proximity and light sensors, on the left to which sits the famous Mi logo. On the extreme right, you can see the impressive 8MP camera.
Below the screen, there’s the usual set of buttons -- overflow, home and back. Depending on what OS you’re running (MIUI V5 or MIUI 6), the leftmost button will act as either the menu button or the recent tasks button. In my case, it is the latter… because I love the look and feel of MIUI 6.
The chin of the Mi 4 makes home for the reinforced micro USB port and of course the machine drilled speaker grill. Before talking about the sound of it, let me tell you that it looks pretty kickass
Nothing on the left besides the camouflaged SIM slot. The right edge is where you access the power and volume buttons, all covered in great-feeling metal.
The top is where it gets interesting… because not only do you see the standard 3.5mm earphone jack here, but also an IR sensor which is a first for Xiaomi. It is extremely useful as a feature, but unfortunately the range isn’t as much as you’d have liked, on the Mi 4.
Display
Out of all the phones that I’ve had a chance to use and play with, the Mi 4 sits right on top with the other 5 incher… the OPPO Find 5. I totally loved that device but had to let go of it earlier this year to fund another purchase. Anyway, the Mi 4 does look as good as the Find 5 on screen quality terms. Like I’ve said before, 5 inches of screen is the maximum I can handle, and displays like the one used on the Mi 4 really make it worthwhile. I have another phone for YouTube and video, but that phone is increasingly becoming obsolete due to the presence of the Mi 4!
MIUI (6, in my case) lets you choose between 3 color modes and 2 saturation modes. I usually like to have a very balanced and consequently natural display, but on the Mi 4 it is the ‘cool’ color mode I use everyday. To be very frank, the ‘warm’ mode is on the verge of being called yellow; standard and cool are the only modes you will ever choose in between.
Saturation has a couple of modes -- Brilliant and Standard. The difference between these two modes isn’t as pronounced as the ones between the color modes. I use my Mi 4 in Standard mode, Brilliant gives it a tinge of warmness. Comes down to personal preference, imo.
Backlight bleeding is something Chinese phones have been suffering from for a long, long time. Thankfully, it isn’t the case here. Minus a little part. There’s a slight bit of backlight bleeding on the right edge (bottom), which is hardly noticeable and definitely QC-able. You can certainly live with it and it’s far from a deal breaker.
In a nutshell, I’d rate the display a healthy 9/10, at par with the OPPO FInd 5!
Camera
If anything, smartphones from 2013 to 2014 have progressed leaps and bounds on the camera front. There’s of course difference in performance, but it isn’t as significant as the difference (read: improvement) in camera tech.
I LOVE the Xiaomi Mi 4 as a camera phone. It might not have the most number of pixels, or even the most features (it lacks a substantial slow shutter mode, for one), but the Mi 4 does a very good job at capturing moments for you. It’s all about the right timing, and thanks to the super fast focus mode on the Mi 4, I am able to take a lot of pictures at the right time. On terms of camera performance, I would rate the Mi 4 second only to the mammoth OPPO Find 7 (which surprisingly uses the same IMX214 sensor as the Mi 4! But it turns out, there’s a lot more to picture quality than just the sensor )
The Mi 4 carries a lot over from the Mi 3. As in, it features the same ‘vivid’ sort of a picture tone with a little bit of exaggeration; but it’s definitely less than the Mi 3, making pictures seem a lot more real. MIUI 6 might also be a bottleneck as far as hardware performance is concerned, but even then I’m pretty satisfied.
During the initial days with the phone, it had a naggy issue where the camera wouldn’t focus during macro shot attempts. This has since been solved thanks to a multitude of OTA updates (the perks of being on a beta channel…)
The camera app does lack a bit of functionality though, which I hope will be added with future OTA updates. Xiaomi are usually pretty quick in pushing new updates -- weekly, most often.
The camera also does 4K, but it isn’t relevant to me. It isn’t to you too, if you don’t have a 4K aka UHD television!
Another interesting feature is 'Refocus'. As the name clearly suggests, it allows you to focus on parts of an image AFTER clicking. I'm happy to report that it works wonderfully well.
Curious, I wanted to know how it worked. Xiaomi advertised a 0.3 second focus duration, so it wasn't all that difficult. Snooping around the phone's file system told me that the device actually takes multiple photos (4 if I remember right) with different points in focus so that you're able to achieve the magical refocus feature later on. Intelligent, I must say! (HTC had to add a whole another sensor to achieve this )
Battery
I’m very satisfied with the battery life on the Xiaomi Mi 4. It isn’t as good as the OnePlus One, but it falls short only by a shade. On the upside, I get a display that’s way more vibrant and an absolute treat to look at. And according to Android, I look at it about 6 hours before it the phone needs another trip to the wall socket. Speaking of wall sockets, make sure you use the bundled Xiaomi Mi 4 charging adapter. Or be prepared to give it a good few hours of charging (4-5). The stock charger charges up the Mi 4 pretty darn fast; any other charger (even the 2A ones) take way way longer for some reason. Xiaomi don’t advertise anything like VOOC so I’m assuming its some secret tech they’re employing here to get the battery charged fast (unless it is Qualcomm’s fast charging, lol).
My usage often greatly varies from day to day. Most days, I’m left with a good 50% charge at the end of the day, with the phone unplugged for around 18-19 hours along with 3 hours of screen on time. I think this is pretty respectable for a small phone with a 5-inch display, and one that’s so bright.
It might be worthy to let you know about the apps that I use the most, so you get a clearer image about battery life: feedly, Chome, WhatsApp, Pocket, Gmail and a couple other apps that keep changing depending what season it is
All in all I’d give the battery a decent 9/10. Please keep in mind that it took the device a good few weeks before the battery life got to this point; it was far far worse when I started off with using the Mi 4. It could also be the MIUI 6 ROM, but I suspect it has got to do with the hardware itself.
MIUI 6
Its hard to miss what the Mi 4 runs on. Not only because its pretty beautiful and even more functionally useful, but also because of the fact that the media loves to hate the MIUI ROM; at least that section which hasn’t ever used a Xiaomi phone. And I don’t blame them for that. The MIUI ROM does leave an impression of being a bit of an iOS lookalike, but there’s much more to MIUI than that. Calling MIUI a lookalike of iOS is like speaking only one side of the story… if you know what I mean.
Controversy aside, MIUI is pretty useful and handy, but it takes a while to get used to. Especially when you’re coming from another Android smartphone that runs a more closer-to-vanilla ROM.
While I’m yet to come across any significant functional improvements on MIUI 6 compared to the previous iteration of the ROM, I do very much like the look of it. A lot of the settings previously near-unreachable are now easier to get to, which does leave a good impression in the mind of the user. You can now easily switch launchers and other default apps, in a very steamlined manner unlike earlier.
Conclusion
I’ve had the privilege of using a lot of phones this year, including the HTC One M8, OPPO Find 5, Find 7, Xiaomi Mi 3 and of course the OnePlus One besides this… but guess which phone I like the most? Yeah you got it right. Of course this is a very subjective topic, since a lot of smartphone users these days tend to pick phones with displays larger than 5 inches. But I guess I’m just too old skool.
The way the Mi 4 is performing for me right now, I think I would be happy to use it as my main phone for a good one year. Like I mentioned before, battery is a very important component on a smartphone for me, and the Mi 4 hits the sweet spot. It almost lasts as long as the Mi 2S with a 3200mAh battery! (keep in mind that the Mi 2S has only a 4.3 inch 720p screen).
Stuff like an IR sensor (which needs a decent English language app at the moment) make the Mi 4 a real worthy smartphone for the money. I'm waiting to see how it performs in the market when it's available in more countries than just China, especially India. Untill then!
I would like to thank iBuyGou.com for shipping the phone. Go get the phone from them!
A great review! Thank you for your effort. You described most aspects of the phone but everything you wrote was positive. I am iterested in buying that phone so I really need to know things that you disliked.
Usually people that buy a phone and will use it in their everyday life tend to "hide" the flaws so after ALOT of effort I concluded that the weak points of Mi4 is the camera and audio quality. You seem satisfied by the camera but what about the sound?
Thanks again.
mi4 Google
hello
I'm Abhi from mumbai, 00919867788773
I buy mi4 from china last month. All box pack from reputed internet website official paid money.
I have trouble that, I'm not able to start any Google application. Like no Google play store a gmaps and so not able to download any app.
it alwa'ys show warning
No internet access, and security warning that ur Not access to Google application.
I can receive emails And well connected withe wlan and also will sim data.
Have gone in mi market and done all download for Google by Eric...
Also installed all Google framework
But not able to start Google play store and any Google appilcation.
Please give the solutions , how do I star Google play store to download all Apps.
Uninstall and reinstall the play store. Or flash the international version of MIUI at Xiaomi.eu
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ioannis_n said:
A great review! Thank you for your effort. You described most aspects of the phone but everything you wrote was positive. I am iterested in buying that phone so I really need to know things that you disliked.
Usually people that buy a phone and will use it in their everyday life tend to "hide" the flaws so after ALOT of effort I concluded that the weak points of Mi4 is the camera and audio quality. You seem satisfied by the camera but what about the sound?
Thanks again.
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Hi, thanks for the comment and sorry about the late reply.
The sound from the built in speaker is honestly disappointing. Other phones like the OnePlus One give a much better output. That said, the Mi 4 lacks mostly only on the volume. Quality is rock solid -- but volume is often insufficient.
@yash3339 how is the signal strength, 3g on the indian networks?
Good review!! :good:
I totally agree with this review cos I myself own a MI4 and its been one month since I'm using it and I can say its a power house without burning a lot of money... Outstanding phone... Can't wait for it to get the official Lollipop update
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@yash3339 how is the signal strength, 3g on the indian networks?
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Signal is perfect. Been using 3G on Airtel without any issues
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Good review!! :good:
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Thank you! Glad it helped.
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I totally agree with this review cos I myself own a MI4 and its been one month since I'm using it and I can say its a power house without burning a lot of money... Outstanding phone... Can't wait for it to get the official Lollipop update
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Indeed, you got it spot on. Even without Lollipop MIUI 6 is plenty interesting!
I'm using the reliance network here and speed is not that bad... Battery life with wifi is superb
With 2g its almost similar but with 3g due to network strength theres a battery drain, this is a network issue though so its not the fault of the mi4. But hands down this the most powerful device available at this price range. Don't feel uncomfortable when ur friends say its cheap chinese. Just in case if ur friends make fun of ur device, jus laugh back at them cos they have no clue wat they r getting into ..
But Y these devices are priced so low is that ( this is jus my opinion) they dont sell much out of china and advertising is very minimal. yeah i know the mi3 and 1s got great ads in flipkart but stocks were limited and thats y the price is so low. U r paying for wat u actually want rather than wat the manufacturer wants.. But this is my opinion... opinions for me or against me are most welcome
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I'm using the reliance network here and speed is not that bad... Battery life with wifi is superb
With 2g its almost similar but with 3g due to network strength theres a battery drain, this is a network issue though so its not the fault of the mi4. But hands down this the most powerful device available at this price range. Don't feel uncomfortable when ur friends say its cheap chinese. Just in case if ur friends make fun of ur device, jus laugh back at them cos they have no clue wat they r getting into ..
But Y these devices are priced so low is that ( this is jus my opinion) they dont sell much out of china and advertising is very minimal. yeah i know the mi3 and 1s got great ads in flipkart but stocks were limited and thats y the price is so low. U r paying for wat u actually want rather than wat the manufacturer wants.. But this is my opinion... opinions for me or against me are most welcome
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They have not launched Mi 4 outside of China as yet...xiaomi phones are always priced low...they dont make much from phone but make up through services...
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yash3339 said:
Signal is perfect. Been using 3G on Airtel without any issues
Thanks, bought it a week back...working good so far...
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They have not launched Mi 4 outside of China as yet...xiaomi phones are always priced low...they dont make much from phone but make up through services...
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yash3339 said:
Signal is perfect. Been using 3G on Airtel without any issues
Thanks, bought it a week back...working good so far...
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Glad to know its working fine for you
sidzcool said:
I'm using the reliance network here and speed is not that bad... Battery life with wifi is superb
With 2g its almost similar but with 3g due to network strength theres a battery drain, this is a network issue though so its not the fault of the mi4. But hands down this the most powerful device available at this price range. Don't feel uncomfortable when ur friends say its cheap chinese. Just in case if ur friends make fun of ur device, jus laugh back at them cos they have no clue wat they r getting into ..
But Y these devices are priced so low is that ( this is jus my opinion) they dont sell much out of china and advertising is very minimal. yeah i know the mi3 and 1s got great ads in flipkart but stocks were limited and thats y the price is so low. U r paying for wat u actually want rather than wat the manufacturer wants.. But this is my opinion... opinions for me or against me are most welcome
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Haha, you got a point there... but I've been using Chinese devices long enough for my friends to truly realize their real value
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Hey I've been using device for 2 months and I feel that this device is worth its price.. Thats all..
Notification LED
Nice review Yash, addressed most of the queries the prospective users would have.
Hi MI4 users,
I would like to know if the MI4 has a notification LED.
In one review on youtube (I think, Ash's), he did mention that it has a notification LED which lights up to show the phone is charging.
What I want to know is if the LED blinks to notify unread notifications (missed calls, sms, emails, IMs, etc)? Is it a single color LED or does it light up in different colors as per the category of notification.
AP
Hi there,
The led does blink for notification such unread messages (texts, what's app, emails) calls even your clash of clan notification
Actually mi4's led does work as would work any regular led on other phones
Edit : it does light up in different colors as per category
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By the way, here's how my mi4 lte is doing on a French wireless operator using lte band 3 (1800mhz)
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This Device so far... is Awesome
Xiaomi Mi 4
Nice review indeed. Thanks a lot for sharing with us.
Recently xiaomi has released another great product xioami Note, which I personally think is cool and better than Mi 4 in many sense. Hope you will write a review on Mi note.
Any more comments on the Battery drain on 3G? I'm switching from a Nexus 5 to Mi4, I don't want to fall into the same low battery trap again :/
cyanide911 said:
Any more comments on the Battery drain on 3G? I'm switching from a Nexus 5 to Mi4, I don't want to fall into the same low battery trap again :/
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You'll be fine the mi4 has a much bigger battery. And my mi3 gets good battery life too : p
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I'm definitely interested. I love this phone, but I didn't think the M9 was much of an upgrade. We shall see though. It will between htc 10 & moto X pure
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I'm definitely interested. I love this phone, but I didn't think the M9 was much of an upgrade. We shall see though. It will between htc 10 & moto X pure
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I would like some insight too.
1st. Would like the M10 2nd. Google (read about *4G issues?) 6P .
question is being on VZW.
will s-off and root be possible for M10 on vzw?
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So I was on the fence for a while going back and forth with the leaks, but I think after the official announcement I'm in. Everything about this phone sounds great. I'm also liking their new ad campaign. HTC's #1 issue has been marketing. Yes the M9 was a miss for most of us on this forum, but that's because we already had the M8 and there was little reason to upgrade. The M9 was in many ways still an excellent phone. I really hope that the HTC 10 + Vive can help HTC recapture the market. The fact that they are releasing a new phone that pushes the envelope in nearly every direction despite shrinking margins and posting a net loss is very impressive.
I can't say with certainty, but I'm very hopeful of the s-off / rooting potential of this phone, even then VZW version. The unlocked GSM model will be able to unlock the bootloader via HTCDev.
As it seems is always the case these days, with everything new we get, we lose some features as well. Let's take a moment of silence for stereo front facing speakers and the IR blaster... add them to the Qi wireless charging we lost after the DNA.
My only complaints with the HTC 10 so far: Facebook will come preinstalled and can't be removed (ugh), and the rear camera sticks out, which is fine if you use a case, but I almost never do, so that's annoying.
Oh, and I apparently the Camellia Red colorway is a KDDI JPY exclusive, which stinks. I have the red M8 and I love it! If I could buy a red 10 I'd be so happy.
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I would like some insight too.
1st. Would like the M10 2nd. Google (read about *4G issues?) 6P .
question is being on VZW.
will s-off and root be possible for M10 on vzw?
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I have a feeling S-Off will come to the HTC 10, Jcase had this to say
https://twitter.com/jcase/status/719891850484559873
HTC 10 will be on all carriers except At&t, the unlocked variant will of course work on there still. I am so excited for this device, it has everything you could want in a phone. Sense UI is still great & it being closer to stock is a plus. This & the Galaxy S7 are the only 2 devices right now that have my attention, its either a phone that can be Rooted & Boomsound or a phone that is Water Resistant & has Layers Support.
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I have a feeling S-Off will come to the HTC 10, Jcase had this to say
https://twitter.com/jcase/status/719891850484559873
HTC 10 will be on all carriers except At&t, the unlocked variant will of course work on there still. I am so excited for this device, it has everything you could want in a phone. Sense UI is still great & it being closer to stock is a plus. This & the Galaxy S7 are the only 2 devices right now that have my attention, its either a phone that can be Rooted & Boomsound or a phone that is Water Resistant & has Layers Support.
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Thanks buddy, I love my ?8.
I recently dropped it and cracked the screen. So I have been looking for a replacement.
Would like it to be better then the M8.
Being I'm on VZW unlimited. I know Big red is locking all doors. I would like to use my phone with the least possible restriction. Would like the phone to have great community/dev support.
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I have a feeling S-Off will come to the HTC 10, Jcase had this to say
I am so excited for this device, it has everything you could want in a phone.
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And a built in battery which makes it a totally useless phone for me. My M8 is the only phone I'll ever own with a non-removable battery. Sorry HTC, not for me.
No removable battery or no removable storage card = NO!
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And a built in battery which makes it a totally useless phone for me. My M8 is the only phone I'll ever own with a non-removable battery. Sorry HTC, not for me.
No removable battery or no removable storage card = NO!
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HTC 10 has a Micro SD Slot that supports up to 2TB
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HTC 10 has a Micro SD Slot that supports up to 2TB
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One out of two = NO! Micro SD slot AND removable battery = minimum acceptable features.
I may pick up a used Galaxy 4 again and activate it, the M8 is now two years old and the battery life has dropped quite a bit... <sigh>
Removable batteries are not a priority for the majority of users. In all the years I've had a phone I've never swapped out batteries. While I understand there may be use cases that require removable batteries, I've found that portable battery packs solve most use cases. If you must have the ability to swap batteries than I suggest looking at the LG G5.
I like the HTC 10. Seems like a solid upgrade, especially the camera which is now one of the best on the market compared to the M9 being one of the worst. Sense 8, and lack of bloatware seems fantastic for the unlocked version. If Javacard can s-off the HTC 10 on Verizon, that might pull me over! Sense is probably the cleanest, smoothest UI I've used.
I ended up getting a Nexus 6P in mid-march. Love the screen size. I'm holding LTE band 4 a lot better than I did with the M8, and can now get LTE in my basement when I was only able to get 3G on M8.
The 4G issue you were referring to could have been fixed by the last major firmware update, but who knows. Haven't had a problem with mine. Go figure. Every phone has its own personality
Only annoying part is Verizon includes free visual voicemail, but no way to use it (no app compatible) so I keep getting a text for each voicemail. Can be rectified by calling CS and downgrading to basic voicemail, but don't care enough. I may get 1 voicemail every month? lol
I use Google Voice for my voicemail, it's free and much better than Verizon's offering. As an added bonus, you get a 2nd phone number which is great for when you don't want to give out your actual cell to anyone (filtering calls is much easier in Google Voice than through Verizon).
I'll wait until the first or second price drop. Since my m8 just got marshmallow, I'm very happy with it and don't need to be on the latest and greatest. I'd rather have the money in my pocket.
I would love to get another HTC phone but the 10 isn't up to snuff compared to the Samsung Galaxy S7. I was leaning towards the S7 just because of the wireless charging ability and better camera.
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I was interested (more so bored with having the same phone over a year) but then I bought my wife a galaxy s7 and I can say for certain other than camera performance, faster charging and specs nothing has changed since 2014 worth upgrading for. For two days I ran app after same app on both with no real difference in real world speed (running stock rooted marshmallow with NO mods) despite benchmarks and specs. Increased resolution serves no purpose other than specs on a 5" screen and human eyes. Both screens look perfect. I guess a fingerprint reader would be nice for people who lock their phone or think it's easier to pull out a phone than bank card (she doesn't use it. Never even been set up).
Point is after real world comparison nothing revolutionary has changed. They aren't even getting prettier and thinner anymore (m8 and m9 look better and thinner).So I bought a skin/wrap and I feel like I have a brand new phone. Pretty sure this is why at some point they stop supporting newer software. From 2014 many people would never need to buy a new phone except for outdated software.
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Removable batteries are not a priority for the majority of users. In all the years I've had a phone I've never swapped out batteries. While I understand there may be use cases that require removable batteries, I've found that portable battery packs solve most use cases. If you must have the ability to swap batteries than I suggest looking at the LG G5.
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I'm considering the G5, hoping someone will unlock the bootloader. I suspect people with newer phones haven't encountered the battery problems I have with my M8 (my LAST PHONE with a non-removable battery!) which is over 3 years old, the battery was fine until around 30 days ago...
I hit the sack around 11 PM and connect the phone to the charger, I get up at 7 AM and take the phone off the charger. When new, I could often get to 10 PM w/o recharging, recently I have to recharge TWICE during the day and today I noticed the phone won't charge more than 85%!
So now my options are: Replace battery, this involves losing the phone for some days and spending a bunch of bucks or new phone, again a bunch of bucks or buying a used phone from Swappa, again a bunch of bucks all of which would never have happened if I could only remove the old battery and slide in a new one!
I'll definitely try to get it. When ever they decide to release it on VZW. Way worth the upgrade from the M8 . 4 gigs of ram, SD 820, fingerprint, new boomsound/headphone audio, better cameras, 4k video recording, USB C, QC 3.0, a little bigger screen size but without the size of the phone increasing, I assume better battery life.
I stopped by a Verizon store yesterday to play with their display 10. It's a nice phone, but I don't think it's worth the $600-700 price to upgrade over the M8. I like the physical design of the M8 better, not a fan of the chamfored edged on the back or the rear camera bump. For the "best mobile camera ever" I was underwhelmed. Maybe it's just the awful lighting in the verizon store, but the image quality wasn't substantially different. I noticed the 10's front camera is much less wide-angle than the M8's. Moving the headphone jack to the top sucks. Back to the days of wires sticking out the top and bottom of your device. Also, you know how the M8 has that glossy plastic strip across the top, which blends well into the IR blaster power button? Well the 10 has the same strip except it's a soft matte grey plastic that I just don't think works at all. It looks like the original M7 did.
To be honest I'm a bit disappointed. I rushed out to buy the Thunderbolt when it came out, I waited for the store to open to pick up the DNA. Upgrading to the M8 felt like a major upgrade. Going from M8 to 10 though just feels like a slight iteration, gaining some new bells and whistles but losing others. Maybe HTC will get the 11 right, if they survive that long...
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I stopped by a Verizon store yesterday to play with their display 10. It's a nice phone, but I don't think it's worth the $600-700 price to upgrade over the M8. I like the physical design of the M8 better, not a fan of the chamfored edged on the back or the rear camera bump. For the "best mobile camera ever" I was underwhelmed. Maybe it's just the awful lighting in the verizon store, but the image quality wasn't substantially different. I noticed the 10's front camera is much less wide-angle than the M8's. Moving the headphone jack to the top sucks. Back to the days of wires sticking out the top and bottom of your device. Also, you know how the M8 has that glossy plastic strip across the top, which blends well into the IR blaster power button? Well the 10 has the same strip except it's a soft matte grey plastic that I just don't think works at all. It looks like the original M7 did.
To be honest I'm a bit disappointed. I rushed out to buy the Thunderbolt when it came out, I waited for the store to open to pick up the DNA. Upgrading to the M8 felt like a major upgrade. Going from M8 to 10 though just feels like a slight iteration, gaining some new bells and whistles but losing others. Maybe HTC will get the 11 right, if they survive that long...
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Pixel count the image is wider. The m8 only has a 4MP camera while the 10 has a 12MP camera. It shoots @12mP in 4:3. The wide-screen mode is a cropped version of the 12MP and still is a lot more MP than the m8. Also the screen is a much higher resolution than the m8 so the same pictures from the m8 would take up less space.
Honestly the phone is solid. Battery is great. Been using mine for a couple days now.
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I'll get mine on Monday I hope.
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xs11e said:
I'm considering the G5, hoping someone will unlock the bootloader. I suspect people with newer phones haven't encountered the battery problems I have with my M8 (my LAST PHONE with a non-removable battery!) which is over 3 years old, the battery was fine until around 30 days ago...
I hit the sack around 11 PM and connect the phone to the charger, I get up at 7 AM and take the phone off the charger. When new, I could often get to 10 PM w/o recharging, recently I have to recharge TWICE during the day and today I noticed the phone won't charge more than 85%!
So now my options are: Replace battery, this involves losing the phone for some days and spending a bunch of bucks or new phone, again a bunch of bucks or buying a used phone from Swappa, again a bunch of bucks all of which would never have happened if I could only remove the old battery and slide in a new one!
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Got my G5, great phone. I miss unlocked boot loader, root and custom roms but that may come later...
So adios to the M8 forums and THANKS for all the help, advice and ROMs from some amazing devs.
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HTC recently released its brand new U Ultra which is a really interesting device, in this thread share with us your experience,expectations,battery life,problems...and more.
But first, will you get one? :laugh:
Soufiansky said:
HTC recently released its brand new U Ultra which is a really interesting device, in this thread share with us your experience,expectations,battery life,problems...and more.
But first, will you get one? :laugh:
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bought one and have used it for maybe 4 days
the specs were really offputting e.g. display to body ratio, battery capacity
the most disappointing thing is the sound quality from the built-in speakers. they're loud and clear but lacks bass.. nothing like Boomsound speakers in the past.
battery life turned out ok! idles very well and would last me a day. I do have the feeling that it won't do as well under heavy use.
Sense Companion is missing.. read how some people have it but then the official (HK) website says it'll be available for download "early 2017" but that's all the info I could find. which is annoying.
surprisingly it's one of the first Androids (for me) that has working Wi-Fi calling out of the box. And I've owned quite a few androids before.
yellowchilli said:
bought one and have used it for maybe 4 days
the specs were really offputting e.g. display to body ratio, battery capacity
the most disappointing thing is the sound quality from the built-in speakers. they're loud and clear but lacks bass.. nothing like Boomsound speakers in the past.
battery life turned out ok! idles very well and would last me a day. I do have the feeling that it won't do as well under heavy use.
Sense Companion is missing.. read how some people have it but then the official (HK) website says it'll be available for download "early 2017" but that's all the info I could find. which is annoying.
surprisingly it's one of the first Androids (for me) that has working Wi-Fi calling out of the box. And I've owned quite a few androids before.
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How much did you buy it ?
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How much did you buy it ?
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full retail price.. why?
yellowchilli said:
full retail price.. why?
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Just asking lol
yellowchilli said:
surprisingly it's one of the first Androids (for me) that has working Wi-Fi calling out of the box. And I've owned quite a few androids before.
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Pretty cool. Which network is that with in HK?
I really wish the Android OEMs will start loading the VoLTE and VoWIFI software configs in all phones, so we can use these technologies regardless of geography.
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Pretty cool. Which network is that with in HK?
I really wish the Android OEMs will start loading the VoLTE and VoWIFI software configs in all phones, so we can use these technologies regardless of geography.
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that would be nice. VoLTE is more readily available but seems to drain a fair bit of battery on standby..especially on Samsungs. But VoWifi is a first for me. I'm with Smartone in hk, phone was bought unlocked though.
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Just asking lol
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relatively speaking I do feel it's a bit overpriced.. or rather not quite priced correctly when MWC was happening at the same time, new phones with next gen specs are announced etcetc
yellowchilli said:
that would be nice. VoLTE is more readily available but seems to drain a fair bit of battery on standby..especially on Samsungs. But VoWifi is a first for me. I'm with Smartone in hk, phone was bought unlocked though.
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Yeah, so your HK market one had the HK carrier info loaded, so smartone worked straight away. It would be good if that was loaded for all regions, or make it downloadable by region. iPhone curerntly does this via their carrier settings facility. Android seems like we have to flash different firmware. a bit unnecessary.
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that would be nice. VoLTE is more readily available but seems to drain a fair bit of battery on standby..especially on Samsungs. But VoWifi is a first for me. I'm with Smartone in hk, phone was bought unlocked though.
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relatively speaking I do feel it's a bit overpriced.. or rather not quite priced correctly when MWC was happening at the same time, new phones with next gen specs are announced etcetc
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Exactly, for that price i would go for an iphone or an S7 edge, i think HTC want to fail again this year
Hello all, just received the HTC Sense Companion update InFrance.
Have to try It. And You? Any Feedback?
Thx.
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Hello all, just received the HTC Sense Companion update InFrance.
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That second screen looks dope !
Sense Companion was just released today, updated, in the US.
Battery drains quick.
I Am using it alot. I've switched on power saving mode.
Still goes quick, like I said...using it alot.
Big screen and second screen to power, aswel as people suggesting transmission technologies are a factor.
Wi-Fi Calling straight out of the box put a big fat smile on my face. (if your network supports it)
The buzz of owning one hasn't worn off. Probably won't for awhile.
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Battery drains quick.
I Am using it alot. I've switched on power saving mode.
Still goes quick, like I said...using it alot.
Big screen and second screen to power, aswel as people suggesting transmission technologies are a factor.
Wi-Fi Calling straight out of the box put a big fat smile on my face. (if your network supports it)
The buzz of owning one hasn't worn off. Probably won't for awhile.
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Give it some time to settle down it might get better after some days
Sound daft but....
It looks gorgeous on YouTube!
What color did you get?
Is it as impressive in person? In know-subjective.
What are the edge breezes like (never mind top and bottom)?
Mine's blue. Seems to be a popular colour.
I'm a Die Hard HTC fan. (first phone was able to execute code on a ps3, due to the chip set)
It's taken this phone to rekindle my interest.
I'm anti apple. Ever since they started using Intel processors.
All credit to the fusion chip, it's keeping apple on top. Until they start using someone else's chip.
I'm loving the big screen, a pleasure to use and keep using what ever the task.
No regrets.
profixit said:
Mine's blue. Seems to be a popular colour.
I'm a Die Hard HTC fan. (first phone was able to execute code on a ps3, due to the chip set)
It's taken this phone to rekindle my passion.
I'm anti apple. Ever since they started using Intel processors.
All credit to the fusion chip, it's keeping apple on top. Until they start using someone else's chip.
I'm loving the big screen, a pleasure to use and keep using what ever the task.
No regrets.
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Blue one is the sexiest color, enjoy :good:
in the netherlands the black version was available 4-3-17 and the blue variant was scheduled for 18e so it was hard to see the phone was
launched but needed to wait for the blue one that's the phone i saw in the teaser on youtube and i knew right then it shut be the blue one.
i have the phone now for 7 days and could not be happier whit my new phone screen is large in first specially when coming from small htc one m7
but now after few days its great -battery is good not great ,playing hole day on it and i did 2 times this week charged back up during the day.
but after some time when phone is little older and not used as often i think will last the hole day thats great for me
its fast ,decent battery .good camera (way better than the m7) stunning looks so love the phone even when you consider the price !!
wario said:
in the netherlands the black version was available 4-3-17 and the blue variant was scheduled for 18e so it was hard to see the phone was
launched but needed to wait for the blue one that's the phone i saw in the teaser on youtube and i knew right then it shut be the blue one.
i have the phone now for 7 days and could not be happier whit my new phone screen is large in first specially when coming from small htc one m7
but now after few days its great -battery is good not great ,playing hole day on it and i did 2 times this week charged back up during the day.
but after some time when phone is little older and not used as often i think will last the hole day thats great for me
its fast ,decent battery .good camera (way better than the m7) stunning looks so love the phone even when you consider the price !!
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Enjoy your beast :good:
wario said:
in the netherlands the black version was available 4-3-17 and the blue variant was scheduled for 18e so it was hard to see the phone was
launched but needed to wait for the blue one that's the phone i saw in the teaser on youtube and i knew right then it shut be the blue one.
i have the phone now for 7 days and could not be happier whit my new phone screen is large in first specially when coming from small htc one m7
but now after few days its great -battery is good not great ,playing hole day on it and i did 2 times this week charged back up during the day.
but after some time when phone is little older and not used as often i think will last the hole day thats great for me
its fast ,decent battery .good camera (way better than the m7) stunning looks so love the phone even when you consider the price !!
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Its always hard to put a new phone down! hahaha. I'm sure your battery will improve as you find the balance of use and life. The phone is rather good in standby battery life.
As the title asks: has anyone here got the phone yet? What are your thoughts on it? I got mine yesterday. So far, I'm impressed yet slightly bored due to the lack of new features.
The phone itself is amazing, quick and beautiful. The fingerprint scanner is fast, the phone is comfortable to hold but lacks anything exciting from it!
Post some thoughts below!
Have you tested Displayport Alt? It's part of the USB 3.1 standard and any USB-C to HDMI/Display Port adapter should work, even if it's branded for a laptop for a laptop.
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Have you tested Displayport Alt? It's part of the USB 3.1 standard and any USB-C to HDMI/Display Port adapter should work, even if it's branded for a laptop for a laptop.
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No I haven't tried that actually. I'll have to look it up and see if I can try it! I'll report back if I manage.
My immediate reaction is, I wish this thing was in the omnibalance design. It is too chunky for me, I don't like the curve of the back which is really quite thick in the middle. Very slippy as well, slips all over the place..
It is very quick, the screen is very nice and as usual, for me anyway, battery life is very good.....darn it, if only the XZ2 was a bigger screened version of the XZ1 form factor.
This phone needs a case - no doubt about it - it could be very slippery otherwise.
I've come from the Pixel 2 XL (due to Google's inability to code updates properly; luckily they refunded me even after 5 months!) - the XZ2 certainly is bigger and heavier but it fits better in my pocket...
There were nice things Google had done to Android that improves the user experience that the Sony like others will not have. Nothing functionally different just a bit 'dull' in terms of experience.
The camera of the XZ2 is not up to Pixel 2 standards but I've yet to play with it properly.
I like the XZ2 - I hope I feel this way in six months time.
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My immediate reaction is, I wish this thing was in the omnibalance design. It is too chunky for me, I don't like the curve of the back which is really quite thick in the middle. Very slippy as well, slips all over the place..
It is very quick, the screen is very nice and as usual, for me anyway, battery life is very good.....darn it, if only the XZ2 was a bigger screened version of the XZ1 form factor.
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I agree with the phone being slippery! I can't even hold it between my shoulder and ear without it wanting to fall within seconds! Also needs a screen protector which I've had no luck finding.
As for the form factor, it doesn't seem half bad in all honesty. I come from the HTC 10 so for me it feels nice to hold and I personally like the curve on the back!
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This phone needs a case - no doubt about it - it could be very slippery otherwise.
I've come from the Pixel 2 XL (due to Google's inability to code updates properly; luckily they refunded me even after 5 months!) - the XZ2 certainly is bigger and heavier but it fits better in my pocket...
There were nice things Google had done to Android that improves the user experience that the Sony like others will not have. Nothing functionally different just a bit 'dull' in terms of experience.
The camera of the XZ2 is not up to Pixel 2 standards but I've yet to play with it properly.
I like the XZ2 - I hope I feel this way in six months time.
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+1 for dull. That's the first thought I had after setting it up. I want to root/unlock the bootloader so I can put xposed on it for customisation but I don't want to lose the DRM keys either.
Love it! I came from Z3... Fast, good battery life in my opinion. Nice screen, doesn't feel that thick to me. The only thing I dislike is how slippery it is. Bought a Qi charger that I put it on first night I had it. Looked like It was laying still. 20 minutes later it woke me up when it had slid off and hit the floor ? it survived, but I instantly ordered a case for it.
I will charge it on the floor for now ?
Devzz said:
As the title asks: has anyone here got the phone yet? What are your thoughts on it? I got mine yesterday. So far, I'm impressed yet slightly bored due to the lack of new features.
The phone itself is amazing, quick and beautiful. The fingerprint scanner is fast, the phone is comfortable to hold but lacks anything exciting from it!
Post some thoughts below!
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You are right the phone is a little boring but that's not a bad thing.. As it works as expected.
I got the s9 returned it now as couldn't make phone calls with it (a highly reported bug)
Also Samsung blocked call recording apps
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Love it! I came from Z3... Fast, good battery life in my opinion. Nice screen, doesn't feel that thick to me. The only thing I dislike is how slippery it is. Bought a Qi charger that I put it on first night I had it. Looked like It was laying still. 20 minutes later it woke me up when it had slid off and hit the floor it survived, but I instantly ordered a case for it.
I will charge it on the floor for now
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That is why Sony built Wireless Charging Dock WCH20 like this
https://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/wireless-charging-dock-wch20/
Great phone, snapy, it boots like a beast, camera is awesome and i think i will get used to the shape, it feels ok in hand, nice UI, bu unfortunately after i got it i realized botom speaker is making strange noises, allmost unberable, so i bring it back for exchange tomorrow, bought in Slovenia, seal was broke, so watch out for that
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Great phone, snapy, it boots like a beast, camera is awesome and i think i will get used to the shape, it feels ok in hand, nice UI, bu unfortunately after i got it i realized botom speaker is making strange noises, allmost unberable, so i bring it back for exchange tomorrow, bought in Slovenia, seal was broke, so watch out for that
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Thanks! That's a really good tip, people need to ensure the device is new and the phone hasn't been used before! Sorry to hear it's making noises though. Good luck with getting a working version after exchanging!
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Thanks! That's a really good tip, people need to ensure the device is new and the phone hasn't been used before! Sorry to hear it's making noises though. Good luck with getting a working version after exchanging!
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After couple of updates, reboots and full night charge speakers settled, it works o.k. I am buffled... I had an apointment today for immediate phone exchange but will cancel it leter, cause i cant be sure if that was software related between updates.
I tried so hard today in morning, max loudness and shaking etc, it performed flawlessly... So i keep it, if error reocurs i still have waranty ?
I encourage you all to buy it, it is a beast
The phone it's good, fast and stable. But sincerely if I could go back i buyed a pixel 2 xl. I've enabled volte but don't work, camera it's not impressed me also front camera it's average. Impossible to use without cover, i buyed a cover from amazon. For tempered glass i advice brotect airglass, it's the only with no halo and no brightness lost
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The phone it's good, fast and stable. But sincerely if I could go back i buyed a pixel 2 xl. I've enabled volte but don't work, camera it's not impressed me also front camera it's average. Impossible to use without cover, i buyed a cover from amazon. For tempered glass i advice brotect airglass, it's the only with no halo and no brightness lost
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Only trouble for me with pixel us that call recording does not work on it otherwise I would have got one
After a few days of use, the phone is a solid choice.
Striking a good balance with a decent screen size & still manageable to use one-handed.
The display is plenty bright , even in sunlight outdoors, colors are excellent, right up there with the best AMOLED displays on the market.
Sound from the FF Dual speakers is plenty voluminous, quality is there as well, tweak with your music/equalizer app of choice or, as I do, use what's on board.
The addition of wireless charging is welcome, THX Sony!
Ditto for the US model having a working FPR.
I'd prefer a front or side-mounted FPR, but, use of the FPR is waaay down on my list of desired features, I can take or leave it, regardless of position, or, missing altogether.
Battery life, well, JMHO, you'd be hard pressed to find any phone that's not at least acceptable & this one is no different. The discussions on battery life are subjective at best & range to the ridiculous.
My 2¢ on the subject:
If you're employed/in-school, or otherwise engaged in activities that take priority over using your phone full time, odds are you can make it 1.5-2 days between charges on any phone. If you have more free time than that, YMWV.
No phone is perfect & this one, while I think is a keeper, has a few areas in need of improvement.
1) No 3.5 mm jack. While this is of no consequence to me, nevertheless, it was a boneheaded decision to drop the option, 'nuff said.
2) It's gotta be the slickest (read:SLIPPERY) phone I've ever used. If you're gonna use a case, this is moot, but, when I'm @ home, I like to shed the case for a more comfortable grip. The fit in hand is perfect, but, I do wish Sony woulda/coulda done something with the back glass to ensure a more secure grip. (Textured glass, a la Sandstone finish, just spit-ballin' here).
3) The super-sized vibration motor is, IMHO, total nonsense. The space it occupies would have been better utilized for the MIA 3.5 mm jack, larger battery, an I-R Blaster.
One or all of these would be welcome, compared to the gimmicky vibration motor.
4) No 6GB RAM option Stateside (possibly in other markets as well,worth looking into before buying).
I bought a 6GB RAM model on Swappa, but, having the different RAM versions, especially in the price range, is a head-scratcher.
Overall, a very nice phone for every day use. As for recent offerings (six months or so), I've used the following:
Sony Xperia XZ Premium
Note FE
Mi Mix2 (highly recommend)
Huawei Mate 9 Porsche Design
Note 8
Xiaomi Mi A1
RazerPhone
Moto X4 (Android One)
OnePlus 5T
Galaxy S9+
Huawei Mate 10 Pro
I'd take this one, the Sony Xperia XZ2, every time, without hesitation. Still have the Xiaomi Mi Note2 as a 2nd phone..........................,the Mi Mix2, OnePlus 5T & Samsung Galaxy Note FE were/are viable daily drivers,can't go wrong w/either one of 'em.
They're all great phones, but, for my use, the XZ2 is tops.
Put a stylus on your phone already Sony,& I'd probably never give the competition more than a casual glance....
I was going to send it back after a few days but it is growing on me, the screen is really really nice, with good deep blacks and superb brightness and clarity (it is hard to believe it is not a higher resolution), it is very fast and it has a very premium feel (if a little slippy). I also have the XZ1 and prefer the form factor of the XZ1 but the XZ2 has more going for it as an overall package. Some online reviews have been quite dismissive at times of this phone but it does have something, a bit of character?
Personally, I'd never buy a Samsung for a lot of reasons and I suppose you could call me a bit of a Sony fanboy in that I've owned lots of them down the years. This is the best Sony phone for a good long while, a great all rounder.
Very pleased with this one.
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After a few days of use, the phone is a solid choice.
Striking a good balance with a decent screen size & still manageable to use one-handed.
The display is plenty bright , even in sunlight outdoors, colors are excellent, right up there with the best AMOLED displays on the market.
Sound from the FF Dual speakers is plenty voluminous, quality is there as well, tweak with your music/equalizer app of choice or, as I do, use what's on board.
The addition of wireless charging is welcome, THX Sony!
Ditto for the US model having a working FPR.
I'd prefer a front or side-mounted FPR, but, use of the FPR is waaay down on my list of desired features, I can take or leave it, regardless of position, or, missing altogether.
Battery life, well, JMHO, you'd be hard pressed to find any phone that's not at least acceptable & this one is no different. The discussions on battery life are subjective at best & range to the ridiculous.
My 2¢ on the subject:
If you're employed/in-school, or otherwise engaged in activities that take priority over using your phone full time, odds are you can make it 1.5-2 days between charges on any phone. If you have more free time than that, YMWV.
No phone is perfect & this one, while I think is a keeper, has a few areas in need of improvement.
1) No 3.5 mm jack. While this is of no consequence to me, nevertheless, it was a boneheaded decision to drop the option, 'nuff said.
2) It's gotta be the slickest (read:SLIPPERY) phone I've ever used. If you're gonna use a case, this is moot, but, when I'm @ home, I like to shed the case for a more comfortable grip. The fit in hand is perfect, but, I do wish Sony woulda/coulda done something with the back glass to ensure a more secure grip. (Textured glass, a la Sandstone finish, just spit-ballin' here).
3) The super-sized vibration motor is, IMHO, total nonsense. The space it occupies would have been better utilized for the MIA 3.5 mm jack, larger battery, an I-R Blaster.
One or all of these would be welcome, compared to the gimmicky vibration motor.
4) No 6GB RAM option Stateside (possibly in other markets as well,worth looking into before buying).
I bought a 6GB RAM model on Swappa, but, having the different RAM versions, especially in the price range, is a head-scratcher.
Overall, a very nice phone for every day use. As for recent offerings (six months or so), I've used the following:
Sony Xperia XZ Premium
Note FE
Mi Mix2 (highly recommend)
Huawei Mate 9 Porsche Design
Note 8
Xiaomi Mi A1
RazerPhone
Moto X4 (Android One)
OnePlus 5T
Galaxy S9+
Huawei Mate 10 Pro
I'd take this one, the Sony Xperia XZ2, every time, without hesitation. Still have the Xiaomi Mi Note2 as a 2nd phone..........................,the Mi Mix2, OnePlus 5T & Samsung Galaxy Note FE were/are viable daily drivers,can't go wrong w/either one of 'em.
They're all great phones, but, for my use, the XZ2 is tops.
Put a stylus on your phone already Sony,& I'd probably never give the competition more than a casual glance....
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Thanks for the detailed feedback.
Does VoLTE work on T-Mobile?
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Thanks for the detailed feedback.
Does VoLTE work on T-Mobile?
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I have the H8296 model (non-US).
As for does it have VoLTE?
Short answer: Maybe?
Here's why I say that:
Using the search function in settings nets the following result:
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
However,when navigating from that,I don't "see" it:
If I go here:
I get this:
When I select this option,I lose all APNs & have to manually enter the APN,wash/rinse repeat.
I do see the LTE+ icon in the status bar,not sure if that's related or not:
If you have a dialer code that might reveal hidden settings, that'd be awesome & I'll take a look...
Perhaps flashing US Firmware will show the settings,or,it's already active,but,the setting is unaccessible(?) (a future root solution,perhaps).
If you have a method/app to check/confirm VoLTE,I'd be glad to check it out & share the results ......... :good:
EDIT:
I used T-Mobile's BYOD App to verify VoLTE & judging by their wording, not definitive:
Could be B.S. to get you to buy one of their phones,T-Mobile US just got fined $40 MILLION USD by the FCC for being less than truthful regarding rural service connections/calls...........
https://www.tmonews.com/2018/04/t-mobile-pay-40-million-fcc-settlement-failed-rural-calls/
FWIW,T-Mobile's DIGITS app works just fine:
@KOLIOSIS
The settings are the same as the settings on my XZ.
I don't understand why Sony phones don't support VoLTE but most of the Chinese phones do.
Hello guys,
I currently own a HTC 10, and i have it since 3 years. I plan to get a new phone, and i can't decide which one. I was thinking of U12+, but i can't try one as it does not exist on any electronic market physically.
Do you recommend HTC U12+ on 2019? What are your experiences? Is it still fast after new updates?
How are the side buttons? I am worried most about those.
Any answer is appreciated!!
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It's a good phone, but there are better choices. It's all about how much you want to spend and strangely, the U12+ is not significantly dropping in price.
The button issue has been largely solved directly after release, though there could be points where they are unresponsive, likely to block out erroneous touches when there's extended periods of pressure on them, like in a case.
The cameras are still among the best you can get and that, imo, is why you would buy this now. GCam makes it better, but doesn't work on the tele lens. I mostly use the stock app, as it works really well.
As for sound quality, it's tops, but one needs to deal with the USBc issues that are not unique to HTC. The fact thst there's no wireless charging makes the phone rather annoying at points. If I were buying and we're not talking budget, I'd just spend 900 Euros on a Snapdragon S10 5g.
The s9 plus might be a better option if you want better update support and wireless charging and a headphone jack. This is at the expense of cameras not as good as the u12+.
I've done your step one year ago and if my HTC 10 lasted longer I would do it now.
I really miss the alu body of my HTC 10. I don't use any covers and this glass back is not for me, but it's okay.
I can recommend the U12+. It's really fast and I don't have any negative aspect. Maybe the buttons. Sometimes they are a bit tricky.
The UI of the HTC phones is really good and I hope that HTC decides to launch new phones in the future. Don't want to change the brand
isik_h said:
Hello guys,
I currently own a HTC 10, and i have it since 3 years. I plan to get a new phone, and i can't decide which one. I was thinking of U12+, but i can't try one as it does not exist on any electronic market physically.
Do you recommend HTC U12+ on 2019? What are your experiences? Is it still fast after new updates?
How are the side buttons? I am worried most about those.
Any answer is appreciated!!
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
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Hi,
Well, the phone is really nicely manufactured, seems robust and feels great in hand (apart from being slippery). Question is whether its non-trendy look bothers you.
As for the side buttons, I've never had any problems with them. I really like the firm sensation of touching them.
However, I can't say a good word about tapping the pressure sensitive sides. It either doesn't work or works when not intended.
Squeezing works 90% right, sometimes getting stuck and not reacting to pressing really hard. In such cases I need to put down the phone and grab it again.
For me, the worst part is the software support. The Pie update was a joke, the security updates were a joke and I don't expect to see Android 10 on that phone. If you want new features in OTAs, then don't consider this phone.
All in all, I feel like there are better choices but coming with some trade-offs. I wouldn't have bought it again and settled for sth else, maybe hardware-wise worse but with better support.
Thank you both for your replies. I am happy with 10 in general, but the as the performance, it seems the phone is not as fast as it was before
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Depends on the price you find, it's still a top-notch phone a year on, that's a testament to HTC's engineering team.
The phone was very fast already and now it's even faster with Pie, at least based on my past day so far. Battery life is now phenomenal with Pie, yesterday I got it off the charger around 7AM and after a regular day - w/ constant but medium or more use - I still had 15% after midnight. Also, support was great, they replaced my broken glass in 3-4 weeks.
Before the Huawei-mess I'd have said the P30 Pro is a better choice, mainly due to its camera, but with the current uncertain future of Huawei and the lower price of the U12+ I'd just buy this again.
isik_h said:
Hello guys,
I currently own a HTC 10, and i have it since 3 years. I plan to get a new phone, and i can't decide which one. I was thinking of U12+, but i can't try one as it does not exist on any electronic market physically.
Do you recommend HTC U12+ on 2019? What are your experiences? Is it still fast after new updates?
How are the side buttons? I am worried most about those.
Any answer is appreciated!!
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
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I was in the same boat a few weeks ago and finally pulled the trigger on a slightly used HTC U12+ for $430. It's a big upgrade over the HTC 10 and good value at that price but I wouldn't recommend it. The buttons are a pain, poor software support from HTC, limited developer support on sites such as xda, and edge sense is more likely to annoy you with false initiations than provide you with any sort of meaningful usability.
If only i would had the chance to have check the phone physically, that would have been perfect.
I am really worried about the side buttons. And i cant understand how HTC have done this.
Thanks everyone for your replies.
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I bought my U12+ this year for around 420USD, brand new. This is the current selling price in Southeast Asia for the 128gb version.
If you're an HTC fan, I will definitely recommend you to buy this but there are so many options out there worth your money.
I am kind of an HTC fan. I had Htc Mega as my first device, which was runnin Windows Mobile.
Later HTC One M8, which was a great device and i had it for 3 years.
Now i am using HTC 10, which is also a great phone with a good built quality.
I planning to change the device mainly for speed and better camera.
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szlevi said:
Depends on the price you find, it's still a top-notch phone a year on, that's a testament to HTC's engineering team.
The phone was very fast already and now it's even faster with Pie, at least based on my past day so far. Battery life is now phenomenal with Pie, yesterday I got it off the charger around 7AM and after a regular day - w/ constant but medium or more use - I still had 15% after midnight. Also, support was great, they replaced my broken glass in 3-4 weeks.
Before the Huawei-mess I'd have said the P30 Pro is a better choice, mainly due to its camera, but with the current uncertain future of Huawei and the lower price of the U12+ I'd just buy this again.
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I was also considering Huawei Mate 20 Pro, but after a brief search, i see that people are complaining about the screen problems. Especially that the screen turns green after a while.
Same goes for LG phones. Screen ghosting seems a standard issue.
Never liked Samsung, without any reason, just like that
I love the quality of HTC built phones. I wish that they launch a new flagship.
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I planning to change the device mainly for speed and better camera.
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Camera is awesome especially compared to anything in its price range, it's a steal for the ~$400 others mentioned here.
isik_h said:
I am kind of an HTC fan. I had Htc Mega as my first device, which was runnin Windows Mobile.
Later HTC One M8, which was a great device and i had it for 3 years.
Now i am using HTC 10, which is also a great phone with a good built quality.
I planning to change the device mainly for speed and better camera.
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If for the cameras, then you are making a good decision. I photograph professionally and use my U12+ for light carry duties and have had numerous publications with it.
FYI I don't know much about it but the price/performance ratio is quite amazing, it's a great price for these specs: https://www.newegg.com/promotions/cellphone/19-2052/index.html
isik_h said:
Hello guys,
I currently own a HTC 10, and i have it since 3 years. I plan to get a new phone, and i can't decide which one. I was thinking of U12+, but i can't try one as it does not exist on any electronic market physically.
Do you recommend HTC U12+ on 2019? What are your experiences? Is it still fast after new updates?
How are the side buttons? I am worried most about those.
Any answer is appreciated!!
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
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If you haven't already bought it, I suggest you don't.
While it's a great phone at its price... It will lack longevity.
The phone is around 1.5 years old now - And HTC is already slow with software updates... Android 10 support on it is currently a gamble.
The HTC version of Android is also lacking in some key functionality compared to AOSP - Most notably lack of Navigation Gestures, lack of new Multitasking/Recent Apps screen, No "Users" support.
The best features of the phone truly are its audio quality and its camera quality. Everything else is on par with the competition, making it a great phone at its price.
But its software is lacking and its longevity is questionably.
Better yet, if you don't care about the camera, you could buy a much cheaper phone which doesn't have as good audio, but better software support and spend the difference in a pair of good headphones, and/or a set of bluetooth speakers.
Such as OnePlus, Xiaomi, Nokia, Oppo etc...
If you do care about the camera, you're stuck with Huawei and Xiaomi to get cheaper phones. Though OnePlus 7 Pro makes an appearance in DxOMark's top 5.
The OP7Pro in fact is probably the best recommendation I have for you at this moment in time, in the UK retail price is £649 for the 6GB / 128GB configuration.
That is £50 cheaper than HTC u12+ original launch price, but with a better screen, better camera, better processor, better software support.... Who cares is audio is worse, buy a decent pair of bluetooth headphone and loudspeaker and you've got a phone for the next 4 years.
I hope I've helped.
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Depends on the price you find, it's still a top-notch phone a year on, that's a testament to HTC's engineering team.
The phone was very fast already and now it's even faster with Pie, at least based on my past day so far. Battery life is now phenomenal with Pie, yesterday I got it off the charger around 7AM and after a regular day - w/ constant but medium or more use - I still had 15% after midnight. Also, support was great, they replaced my broken glass in 3-4 weeks.
Before the Huawei-mess I'd have said the P30 Pro is a better choice, mainly due to its camera, but with the current uncertain future of Huawei and the lower price of the U12+ I'd just buy this again.
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How much did it cost to replace the glass? Mine's shattered and I've heard it's really expensive. Can't decide if I should repair or just buy a cheap phone
Hey guys. I have decided to buy the phone and I have ordered a brand new U12+ for 380 Euros.
I think it is a good deal.
Thanks everyone for their help.
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Great choice!!!!! I never have any issues with the buttons and my 12 Is the greatest phone ever HTC has the best android skin by far you don't need the new navigation bar! You couldn't have made a better decision!!!!
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You are going to love it! But be careful it's a lot more fragile than your 10!!! GET A GOOD CASE
I got a case from Spigen. Hope it will be enough.
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How much did it cost to replace the glass? Mine's shattered and I've heard it's really expensive. Can't decide if I should repair or just buy a cheap phone
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Hi,
Attention where you have repaired! the best choice is direct from HTC! I had a screen replaced by a reputable repairer and back more sound! back again there the sound is OK, but the screen badly fixed and the edge is cracking! Expense of 300 € for nothing !!!