General smoothness / speed? - Sony Xperia XZ Questions & Answers

I moved from the Z3 running concept rom to the XZ. I noticed that everything feels jittery, and I have quite a lot of lagging and hanging, especially when updating / installing apps (I get that it should show down a bit, but this phone lags like a b**). Also whenever the temperature goes over 38, everything becomes laggy (it goes over 38 in normal use).
Nothing particularly heavy running in the background, I don't play a lot of games and streaming is usually by WiFi. Anybody notice that this is not the best phone in terms of performance? My Z3 runs faster, smoother and cooler than this ever did.

Could you have bought an S7 mounted inside an XZ chassis??? Just kiddin buddy...
Havent noticed anything you described, maybe you have to contact whoever cheated you with that phone.
BTW in my opinion my XZ is the best phone in the world no matter what evryone say....
PS try to perform a factory reset or a software repair through xperia companion, them could fix this mysterious behaviour....

omarfarrah said:
I moved from the Z3 running concept rom to the XZ. I noticed that everything feels jittery, and I have quite a lot of lagging and hanging, especially when updating / installing apps (I get that it should show down a bit, but this phone lags like a b**). Also whenever the temperature goes over 38, everything becomes laggy (it goes over 38 in normal use).
Nothing particularly heavy running in the background, I don't play a lot of games and streaming is usually by WiFi. Anybody notice that this is not the best phone in terms of performance? My Z3 runs faster, smoother and cooler than this ever did.
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I have this exact same behaviour! So frustrating
Do you by any chance also have the dual sim model??

I've not encountered this issue, always been snappy and smooth either on stock build and XplayZtation ROM

hm5 said:
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I have this exact same behaviour! So frustrating
Do you by any chance also have the dual sim model??
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Yes it's the dual sim model, bought it from the official dealer in the UAE. So far it hasn't been a good experience... If my Z3 hardware held up a bit more till next year I wouldn't have changed..

drubio said:
Could you have bought an S7 mounted inside an XZ chassis??? Just kiddin buddy...
Havent noticed anything you described, maybe you have to contact whoever cheated you with that phone.
BTW in my opinion my XZ is the best phone in the world no matter what evryone say....
PS try to perform a factory reset or a software repair through xperia companion, them could fix this mysterious behavior....
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Actually when I updated to Nougat I did it by software repair. Interestingly I had the same issues on MM.

I had an idea from some articles I read that the HTC 10 uses slower storage than other flagships as well as Apple apparently using slower storage for the lower capacity versions vs. the higher ones. So I did the test and compared the results to this article by GSM arena (see attached image)
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Now I don't know much about this technical matter but i can say one thing; I was very surprised to find out that my phone the F8332 is worse than the of the ones compared in the article, maybe comparable to the HTC 10.
Would anyone be interested in comparing the F8332 model with the F8331, can anyone here run the test and confirm if theres a difference, because as far as I can tell, the phone performs terribly and I'm thinking of taking it back. Also my father has the same phone, it also lags and stutters. It would be nice to get a confirmation if its indeed a storage issue or just a software optimization issue.

Just if its going to make you feel better, there you got my f8331 results in the same bench, stock 7.0.
I also have to say, i usually don't give a s*** regarding bench results, some smartphones with lower results perform better on daily duties than benchchamps.
I have to say im happy with my xz as another one could be with his sh1tphone 7 or his firesumg note 7. Just a matter of likes. If you live benchmarking yourself with the rest youre going to be far from happiness

drubio said:
Just if its going to make you feel better, there you got my f8331 results in the same bench, stock 7.0.
I also have to say, i usually don't give a s*** regarding bench results, some smartphones with lower results perform better on daily duties than benchchamps.
I have to say im happy with my xz as another one could be with his sh1tphone 7 or his firesumg note 7. Just a matter of likes. If you live benchmarking yourself with the rest youre going to be far from happiness
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I generally never do or trust benchmarks, just wanted to see the results, so based on this I guess it's a software issue?

The XZ uses eMMC memory so what do you expect? Of course the read/write benchmarks are going to be shocking.

I think is a matter of time this relatively new device settle and grow (with the help of the amazing developers we have here, of course). Maybe after that time we'll can see XZ performing at its max. One thing is for sure, im not with that crazy stream we live that everybody wants to have the best piece of tech during a few months, after that, buy another one an so.... And for what? To play candycrush with ps4 quality and sniff people lifes on facebook.

drubio said:
I think is a matter of time this relatively new device settle and grow (with the help of the amazing developers we have here, of course). Maybe after that time we'll can see XZ performing at its max. One thing is for sure, im not with that crazy stream we live that everybody wants to have the best piece of tech during a few months, after that, buy another one an so.... And for what? To play candycrush with ps4 quality and sniff people lifes on facebook.
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I agree, but I also think it's inexcusable for Sony to release a worse performer than their own 2 yr old device. I don't need the best of everything, but within reason... I don't think that having random freezes and laggy software on a brand new and recently reformatted device, while my older one performs flawlessly is ok. What do you think?

sunking101 said:
The XZ uses eMMC memory so what do you expect? Of course the read/write benchmarks are going to be shocking.
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Saying "shocking" is exaggerated, UFS is better in every aspect except power consumption, but eMMC still does much better than what the average smartphone task demands, doing the ***** because of higher numbers on androbench is the same thing as wanting more pixels on display, or more cores, just because everyone else follows that trend.

The XZ still outperforms most of 2016's phones on both Antutu and Geekbench's computing, if you all really care about numbers so much.
Here, high numbers, happy now?

Venom71 said:
Saying "shocking" is exaggerated, UFS is better in every aspect except power consumption, but eMMC still does much better than what the average smartphone task demands, doing the ***** because of higher numbers on androbench is the same thing as wanting more pixels on display, or more cores, just because everyone else follows that trend.
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Go to settings, Storage & Memory, Advanced, Storage, Internal Storage and then wait to see how long it takes for that list to populate. Years. I love my XZ and for my needs it's mainly fine but eMMC/3GB of RAM and plastic casing is lame on a late 2016 flagship no matter what anyone says.

Venom71 said:
The XZ still outperforms most of 2016's phones on both Antutu and Geekbench's computing, if you all really care about numbers so much.
Here, high numbers, happy now?
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No I don't think you read what I said, I don't care about benchmarks at all, my point was using them as a reference because the phone is laggy and just not performing wellvin day to day use.

omarfarrah said:
No I don't think you read what I said, I don't care about benchmarks at all, my point was using them as a reference because the phone is laggy and just not performing wellvin day to day use.
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Never had a single lag on mine, yours is either a defect unit or a fake, if it still lags after a factory reset then theres no other explanation.

sunking101 said:
Go to settings, Storage & Memory, Advanced, Storage, Internal Storage and then wait to see how long it takes for that list to populate. Years. I love my XZ and for my needs it's mainly fine but eMMC/3GB of RAM and plastic casing is lame on a late 2016 flagship no matter what anyone says.
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That's true, but I still couldn't find any other phone to satisfy me more than this one, so there's no actual loss for me.

Venom71 said:
Never had a single lag on mine, yours is either a defect unit or a fake, if it still lags after a factory reset then theres no other explanation.
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Well I very highly doubt it's a fake, so I guess it might be a faulty unit or just the fact that the dual sim version software isn't optimized as the normal one. But I do know one thing, it lags a lot, hangs on certain apps and is just not smooth as it should be, even after several factory resets.

omarfarrah said:
I moved from the Z3 running concept rom to the XZ. I noticed that everything feels jittery, and I have quite a lot of lagging and hanging, especially when updating / installing apps (I get that it should show down a bit, but this phone lags like a b**). Also whenever the temperature goes over 38, everything becomes laggy (it goes over 38 in normal use).
Nothing particularly heavy running in the background, I don't play a lot of games and streaming is usually by WiFi. Anybody notice that this is not the best phone in terms of performance? My Z3 runs faster, smoother and cooler than this ever did.
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It's thermal throttle. I've gone through 3 XZ's. One had serious heating issues, the second had some deadpixel, the current one has also some thermal issues but not as bad as the first.
For example, on the first unit doing benchmarks on antutu (i'm just gonna mention this one for now) always starting from idle temperatures, i would get sometimes around 140.000, 120.000, 135.000 and on one occasion 96.000. On the second unit always above 140.000 no matter what. Best i've achieved was 144.4457 (thumbs up) and it could film 4K for 30 minutes without shutting down due to heat.
On the actual unit, i have lag, faster battery drain, higher temperatures and abnormal temperature rise , mixed antutu scores from 123.000-140.000 (most of the time 135-136) and 4k video maximum of 15 minutes...
And yes, i've done software repairs, fresh install, reboot on safemode, tried on/off smart cleaner and battery care...
From my experience with these units, the XZ is a superb device (if everything is working as it should), a normal device that doesn't separate the sheep from the goats (if you have problems that affect performance) and a real headache if you have serious overheating problems (or others).
FYI, iv'e got the F8331.

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Regrets???

[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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who is "GB"?
heard that name a couple of times but still dont know.
And well...i trade my evo 3d in tommorow and get the optimus 3d.
The evo3d surely isnt a better device. lag and speed drops all the way, everywhere. even pinch to zoom in the browser lags...and i need to wait everywhere...even wait 1 - 2 secs before the keyboards pops up.
And it didnt sync my emails properly.
Wanted to buy the galaxy s2 but well....i DID love the evo 3d's 3d screen. its nicer then on the o3d because resolution, but that means its not far off.
Glad I've visited from s2 section was gonna go from s2 to optimus 3d it looks superb on reviews on you tube but is it as good as they make out, I like to be up to date on my smart phones but might stick with s2 what do you users think.?
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i regret even laying eyes on this piece of crap so what i did was make my lil brother take it off me cuz he loves it. So i am gonna wait for the next nexus phone to come out this October its called the nexus prime imma get that the s2 can shove it too i hate it lol....
Best phone in Holland never have.problems
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Paran0idAndr0id said:
[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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Hi mate.You really seem to have problems with your O3D. Have had mine for more than 1 month and its incredible. I had a SGS2 before and i just can't miss anything from that.I made my own custom ROM (you should do that too) and it works amazing, fast and stable.I have all Gameloft 3D games and they work just better in 3D than in the SGS2 in 2D wich needed its GPU to be locked at max to get descent FPS.In my opinion the LG O3D is the only phone out there that i could say "WOWWW" after playing with.Battery life is really bad i agree, but have you tried the other dual core phones ? they are pretty terrible as well. We gonna get GB soon and im pretty sure that the phone is gonna get a lot better, FROYO dont work properly on dual core devices.As soon as we get GB Im gonna start developing again, dont want to waste time with Froyo.
No regrets what so ever,its so super fast,no lag at all...love it !!!
Paran0idAndr0id said:
[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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Haven't noticed any major bugs with the phone, sure the software is far from the best but not that bad IMO and LG have released patches.
As for Custom ROMs, really what do people think? the phone is extremely new, released like 2 months ago and not even out in the US yet, CM is under development, going pretty fast but it still takes time, it's not like they can just pull it out of a hat, it takes hard work and many hours, in this case given by Ricardo who does this on his free time and not only for the O3D but other hardware as well, expecting a massive amount of CustomROMs within 2 months seems a bit ... After CM is released you'll probably see much more custom ROMs appearing.
Battery life is low yes (not really a surprise if you'd read anything about the phone before getting it) , much because of the screen but also because of unoptimized code because of new hardware etc. will hopefully get better with new software releases or you could get another battery or portable charger. (Running 3D actually doesn't require that much more battery then running the screen normally, it's the brightness and the screen tech that needs a fair amount of power).
If you could be more specific with what problems you have exactly people might be able to help you, just screaming bloody murder wont help much.
For ex.
What apps aren't working properly? And how aren't they working?
What are you doing when you have to reboot the phone to get it to work?
Got any custom apps like a custom lockscreen like agile lock or a custom home app?
Have you tried any battery saving apps?
Also if you haven't had problems like this before with a Smart phone you are either very lucky or you've never bought a extremely new smart phone, all new releases got a few problems here and there, the worst problems usually get sorted about 6 months after first release, compared to my other phones this one has had surprisingly few major issues for being a new phone and that's even more impressive when you realise that it's a new chipset for phones.
I had an HD2 with CM7 when this phone arrived (so I'm not a newbie here). It's for testing 'cause iPhone 4 is a bit expensive so where I work are in search of a good high end working phone.
The O3D has all the requisites out of the box but one: battery. I had it in a construction area and it barely reached 10 hours of normal use plus some gps.
About the hangs and apps that don't work... I only had a problem with Tasker, and it seems it was my problem and not the phone.
IMHO it's a good phone. Maybe your unit was defective?
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Someone tell what or who GB is or il open a topic lol...
I do regret it at moment, having come from a galaxy s with custom roms and absolute crazy battery life..at moment I'd swap it for a galaxy II..BUT am waiting for the october update and more custom roms, so it's still early days for this phone so gonna stick with it as slowly it seems to be moving forward...
@borgqueen the gb they are refering to is gingerbread
Lol I guess I created the topic on a weak moment. But seriously I hate sometimes this fon. Although I got a battery pack with higher capacity the battery dies prematurely. And no I didn't try any other dual core fones but heard that the galaxy 2 has much better battery life.
And I did had the newest smartphones such as htc desire etc.
So be more specific my issues are
1. YouTube player is acting out sometimes and if I fastforward then there seems to be weird color distortion
2. Can't change the bloody user agent in dolphin browser (might be the browser tough heard some fons have this bug) and also sometimes dolphin browser isn't reacting at all or any other browser until I reboot the fone? So definitely not browser related
3. Watching online flash content is a nightmare and this could be froyo related as on any gb fon I tried there where no issues non so ever .
4. Battery life is horrendous
5. Battery life is horrendous
6. Fon doesn't react some times at all and i have to force reboot
I think the fon has great potential but the software is so not in tune with the fon. So as I said I really hope GB will solve some issues here.
By the way I really don't want to offend anyone but it's just my opinion on things so don't fanboy me )
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Paran0idAndr0id said:
Lol I guess I created the topic on a weak moment. But seriously I hate sometimes this fon. Although I got a battery pack with higher capacity the battery dies prematurely. And no I didn't try any other dual core fones but heard that the galaxy 2 has much better battery life.
And I did had the newest smartphones such as htc desire etc.
So be more specific my issues are
1. YouTube player is acting out sometimes and if I fastforward then there seems to be weird color distortion
2. Can't change the bloody user agent in dolphin browser (might be the browser tough heard some fons have this bug) and also sometimes dolphin browser isn't reacting at all or any other browser until I reboot the fone? So definitely not browser related
3. Watching online flash content is a nightmare and this could be froyo related as on any gb fon I tried there where no issues non so ever .
4. Battery life is horrendous
5. Battery life is horrendous
6. Fon doesn't react some times at all and i have to force reboot
I think the fon has great potential but the software is so not in tune with the fon. So as I said I really hope GB will solve some issues here.
By the way I really don't want to offend anyone but it's just my opinion on things so don't fanboy me )
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Dual core phone actually require less battery than single core, but the difference is not that big, SGS2 has a Super AMOLED+ screen and a little bit more power in the battery = more time on a charge. (but from what I've heard they also have some problems with some units magically draining like 30% of battery in mere minutes, only hear say for me though so don't quote me on that)
Haven't watched that much Youtube on the phone but seems more like a network or app problem than the phone?
Sure that Dophin browser don't have a problem with the phone and are affecting other browsers? I've used FF and Original, actually like the Original best and I've not experienced that the browser stopped responding, some apps that are not working correctly can affect other apps, Agile Lock for some reason killed my SIM unlock app and made it almost impossible to use the phone, removed it and haven't had any problem with the SIM card after that.
Nightmare in what way? Laggy?
Battery life is pretty bad, true, not much you can do about it, use a lower brightness on your screen, try out CPU tuner and limit the phone, I've actually got my phone running MAX 600Mhz instead of 1Ghz, gives me about an hour of extra active usage and haven't found anything that really suffers because of the slower speed. Hopefully software updates will help the battery life, my old Hero had like 6hours usage when I first got it, when I retired it that was up to 24-48hours. Also if you need it, check out portable charger on Ebay, I got mine for ~$30 from Hong Kong, 5000mAh just plug in and charge via USB, with the 5V 1A output it fully recharges my phone from 0-100% in just under 3 hours and with the extra mAh you got like 2days away from the outlet, not ideal but works
Or get the 3500mAh battery if you prefer that.
Is it in sleep mode it stops reacting? That's some software glitch that LG has in their 2.2 release, only seems to affect some people noticeably, LG O2X has the same glitch and a nightly not to long ago for CM7 on the O2X reproduced the problem from what I've read.
Or is it while using it that it just stops responding?
I'll try now few other roms out there. No the fon freezes while using the fon actively. I got the problem with sleep too. Anyways there is no way other than wait for a proper cm7 release. Guess is not that far away, no
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I am back on a GS2 and it smokes this phone totally, still have the O3D but I don't use it now, i have come to the conclusion even with the 3D it doesn't make it a good choice over the GS2 its just better in every way.
Hmm i dont regret at all having this phone i had iphone 4 before optimus 3d and i have to say its the best phone i ever have had in all ways...but yeah the battery are a little problem my tip for that take down the quick meny and turn off all data settings like wifi 3g bluetooth after turned off all those settings the battery have lasted for about 2 days and i still have power on it...so no the battery are not the biggest problem here if you do that! and like alot reviews are saying android is leeching data alot therfor it use power turn those off to save battery
This phone is awesome. Anyone who regrets buying it has problems with "grass is greener syndrome" which no amount of coding and tweaking can solve.
The problem is not with the phone. The problem is with your lack of patience and understanding of what is realistic performance and developer support of a brand new device.
Chill out, smoke em if you got em. Most of us will have this phone for a year minimum so there will be plenty of software improvements from both LG and the dev community during that time. LG have already updated like three times. My motorola milestone didnt even get three updates in ITS ENTIRE LIFESPAN.
Be appreciative of what you have.
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I totally agree this phone is great. I've only been using it since Saturday, but I'm extremely impressed. It's speedy, responsive. I'm digging 3D photos and gaming. The build quality is excellent. It feels sturdy and not cheap or too plasticky.
As with all phones, there are drawbacks like the battery life, but it's by no means a deal-breaker. It's also relatively easy to improve (Juice Defender, reduced screen brightness, etc.). Also, if I try to open too many games at once it may freeze on occasion, but all of the 3D games are very hardcore, resource-intensive applications so any phone will freak if you push it too far.
I couldn't be happier with it.

Overall speed

Would you say that the Honor 7X is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Honor 7X exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
No Problem with any performance and flies with the usage
Fantastic. Superb performance in this price range. Sometimes small lags is there but thats only if i applied any heavy modded themes. If we use stock themes no issues for me. Overall very happy with the speed. Never got any delay in any apps. Superb....
Day to day performance is great
Some APK`s i cant install, don`t know why, install Button is greyed out
You have to give the permission to file explorer & then you can install the app from file explorer doesn't work if you install from UC browser or other platforms directly.
Is XDA_RealLifeReview a real XDA-mod or just a normal user?
I mean, he starts threads in every phone section wit the same questions per copy&paste.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/review/overall-speed-t3701250
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/review/overall-speed-t3685573
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/review/overall-speed-t3646088
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/review/overall-speed-t3430716
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/review/overall-speed-t3400046
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/review/overall-speed-t3645715
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/review/overall-speed-t3687356
Spillunke said:
Is XDA_RealLifeReview a real XDA-mod or just a normal user?
I mean, he starts threads in every phone section wit the same questions per copy&paste.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/review/overall-speed-t3701250
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/review/overall-speed-t3685573
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/review/overall-speed-t3646088
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/review/overall-speed-t3430716
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/review/overall-speed-t3400046
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/review/overall-speed-t3645715
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/review/overall-speed-t3687356
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lol bot!!
Not good for heavy gaming.
crayonicle said:
Not good for heavy gaming.
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what if we play mini millitia
daalap10 said:
what if we play mini millitia
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never heard of the game, get the phone and try it out then
My 3gb USA model gets me from day to day operations but suffers from severe freezing/lag at random times while browsing the web or viewing social media. I barely see any forums mentioning similar behavior so I'm starting to think I need to factory reset or I have a defective unit
Hakeem5 said:
My 3gb USA model gets me from day to day operations but suffers from severe freezing/lag at random times while browsing the web or viewing social media. I barely see any forums mentioning similar behavior so I'm starting to think I need to factory reset or I have a defective unit
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Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.
joho5 said:
Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.
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Yeah I feel like I'm in the twilight zone when I see people saying the speed is fine with minimal lag. That what leads me to think we may have defective units. With the Honor 6x I've seen people say that a factory reset fixed their issues.
Much better after factory reset. Slows still from time to time but no just stand still freezes. Bearable. I want this phone with these features with flagship internals though still. Thinking the view 10 may fit that when it comes to US.
joho5 said:
Much better after factory reset. Slows still from time to time but no just stand still freezes. Bearable. I want this phone with these features with flagship internals though still. Thinking the view 10 may fit that when it comes to US.
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OK thanks for the update, I will reset mine this weekend and will also be anticipating the View 10, especially if the price is right.
ya
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Some APK`s i cant install, don`t know why, install Button is greyed out
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ya i am also facing the same problem when i am using third party application it shows gray button to install and i am not able to instal the app
Better performance.
I've found that disabling many of the Honor and EMUI apps (via Package Disabler or other methods) has made a huge difference in speed as well as battery life personally.
I've also experienced seemingly random slowdowns. Facebook seems to trigger it alot. clearing open apps speeds it back up.
Interestingly, it seems like it could be a ram issue, but i've never seen less than 1gb free ram, usually about 1.4gb free
I'll try disabling the emui/huawei apps to see if that helps.
I can't wait for oreo and project treble, then i can run regular aosp based without the emui bs.
joho5 said:
Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.
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They probably post after only using it a few days. Mine was fine at first. After about a week sometimes it would freeze, especially if I'd recently used facebook and chrome the keyboard would struggle. I'd need to either wait or kill a few apps and it would go back to being okay.
The stock camera software has a lot of features, but it is waaaaaay to slow.
I needed a new phone, but we had a lot of expenses last year and so I bought something cheap. It's not terrible. I'll be happy to get a year out of it.

One thread to discuss issues with the razer phone.

Really interested in this phone but obviously worried as it's there first generation phone. So can those who actually have the phone please use this thread to highlight the main issues they have encountered with the phone, to help others decide please.
Vibration motor sounds feels and sounds like theres a poor animal inside being shocked occasionally to cause the rumble (and sound)
When making calls people on the other end I cannot understand or make out what's being said but incoming calls are just fine
Started a similar thread, but getting sidetracked irl..
This thread is only focusing on the negatives to help people decide whether or not to buy it?
What about the positives? (which really do outnumber the negatives by a lot)
I'm also saying this after receiving a defective-speaker phone first time. Still wouldn't trade this phone for any others even if ya paid me or gave it to me for free.
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eriknors said:
When making calls people on the other end I cannot understand or make out what's being said but incoming calls are just fine
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For what it's worth i don't have this issue.
I find it's quite a hefty phone - that reeks of quality, but the square angles and smoothness of the build means it has slipped out of my hands a few more times than other phones. Though I am kinda being a bit namby pamby with it till my screen protector and case come through from Amazon, so it's probably just me.
When my phone vibrates, the bottom speaker area is what rattles.. Hold that or squeeze it and it will stop rattling temporarily.
I've been using this phone for two full days now. I love it. Amazing.
There are a few issues I'd like to list and come back too later to see if anyone else is having the same issues, but first let me start with what I love about the phone because I really do love this phone.
What I Love:
Yuuuuge screen. At first I thought I really wanted to go for the OP5T for the 18:9 Ratio. I actually compared side by side and I like this screen much more.
Phone is bulky, yes. But it gives me a feeling of quality. Like its going to last. My last three phones **** on me which were all Samsung. They look pretty, but they aren't built to last anymore. I am certain Samsung builds phones now to be replaced just like apple. My last phone the S7 Edge literally nothing wrong with it. The alarm went off in the morning like always, when I went to swipe the phone froze, got incredibly hot and shut down. After it cooled down I tried resetting it. Booting in safe mode, etc. Nothing it shows a black screen and what bugs me is that the phone works, I can get text message and unlock etc but the screen is black. This bothers me so much because the boot logo and animation shows up so I know its not a hardware issue. Right as the S8 comes out? Coincidence? I don't think so...
Anyways....
The Razer just seems durable to me, No fancy edges etc. (Cheaper to fix a flat panel in the case of cracks as well).
Screen is smooth as butter at 120hz. It really is noticeable, however after the first day I stopped noticing it. It became a passive thing for me. But I do notice when a game is not running at a high fps and it aggravates me now lol. Most of the games I used to play are literally unplayable to me now.
2TB MicroSD - Wow. No way I will ever need all that but still cool.
Audio, Dolby app. So good.
What I hate: Please let me know if any of these have been addressed by Razer.
Phone does get warm in use at, usually when set to 120hz. Like Youtube and gaming. Even regular use like watching youtube videos in HD gets the phone warm. Never hot, but warm.
Bluetooth audio when on youtube can get out of sync. Only way to fix is with restart. Happened twice so far.
I don't know if its just my mind playing tricks on me, but I notice the screen flash to a dimmer brightness at times. It happens in an instant and gradually gets back up. It's hard to explain, but I will be looking at the screen watching a youtube vid or something then look away and when I look back it seems like it's not as bright, but the more I look at it the more I can't see the difference anymore.
So yeah,
EDIT: Also what is ticking me off is that this has the same camera module as the S7 Edge yet better processor and twice the ram yet I can't shoot video in slow-mo 120fps. I know Razer is working on Camera fix, and I sure hope this feature comes along with it.
I thought the phone has a heat pipe or something like that?. Anyway for me seriously am done with phones that generate heat, especially when it's for gaming!
marvi0 said:
I thought the phone has a heat pipe or something like that?. Anyway for me seriously am done with phones that generate heat, especially when it's for gaming!
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Is this the unicorn you speak of :
I wouldn't rule out this phone based on one or two users experience,at least until they can show how "bad" it is,with some footage/apps that record heating/etc........
Especially if they're charging the phone while playing a grapic-intense game.
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I thought the phone has a heat pipe or something like that?. Anyway for me seriously am done with phones that generate heat, especially when it's for gaming!
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No doubt, phones or computers that generate heat are so mid-90's. They're just dumb.
I've had an issue, happened twice now, but it is difficult to reproduce.
Dolby Atmos app open and turned on, wired headphones (Bang & Olufssen in ear buds). I was listening to an audiobook (Audible app, AAX file extension) and after 25-30 minutes of continuous playback (from 1 audiofile), the sound got weird, like it was coming through a drainpipe. This has never happened with music MP3, and only happened twice but each time after a lengthy playback. So far I haven't got it to happen without Atmos running.
Screen touch response seems like it is not very sensitive. Coming from the axon 7 that you could hover over the screen and it would be detected at times, I find myself double tapping home a lot. Really sucks not being able to change nav bar key placement.
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Screen touch response seems like it is not very sensitive. Coming from the axon 7 that you could hover over the screen and it would be detected at times, I find myself double tapping home a lot. Really sucks not being able to change nav bar key placement.
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I came from the Axon 7 and screen responsiveness was horrible on mine. This phone is a significant leap forward from anything ZTE has offered or ever will offer.
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I came from the Axon 7 and screen responsiveness was horrible on mine. This phone is a significant leap forward from anything ZTE has offered or ever will offer.
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I am having more small issues with the razer than I did on the axon. Like auto rotate not working at times, not being able to move files from the internal storage to the SD card listing to headphones and the dongle gets moved to much and audio cuts off. I am hoping that once there are custom roms somethings will be fixed.
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I am having more small issues with the razer than I did on the axon. Like auto rotate not working at times, not being able to move files from the internal storage to the SD card listing to headphones and the dongle gets moved to much and audio cuts off. I am hoping that once there are custom roms somethings will be fixed.
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Granted while I have not tried the dongle yet I have no problem moving files from internal to external sd and back again (I used a third party file manager). I have to ask the stupid question. Have you tried a factory reset?
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Granted while I have not tried the dongle yet I have no problem moving files from internal to external sd and back again (I used a third party file manager). I have to ask the stupid question. Have you tried a factory reset?
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It's not every file, some move some don't. No I have not reset yet, have not reached that point of annoyance yet. Don't get me wrong I really like the hardware it's the little software bugs that are what I have trouble with, and that's coming from a guy that usually runs buggy custom roms.
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I am having more small issues with the razer than I did on the axon. Like auto rotate not working at times, not being able to move files from the internal storage to the SD card listing to headphones and the dongle gets moved to much and audio cuts off. I am hoping that once there are custom roms somethings will be fixed.
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Can't say I've not had the auto rotate not work. It was annoying the home screen is set to portrait in Nova settings.
What files are you trying to move though? From the 64GB internal to a SD?
My only issues are random restarts when I try to wake up my phone, and the metal surrounding my power button being slightly bent.
hello, for my experience, i love this phone a lot, but for downside is,
1. Mirror cast, cast doesnt detect other device on my phone, its like not even trying to find.
2. Bluetooth, so hard to connect audio bluetooth to my car radio, even if i can connect it, it play for just a less than a minute, then it stop.
3. Vibration, yep is kind a anoying vibration.
4. Heat, playing a mobile legends for a minute like playing for a hour, but i solved with using razer phone hard cover, at least i didnt feel the heat too much.
So far is good, but compared to my s8 plus, razer still have a lot to do.
Cheers.

Question 2+ Week impressions

Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
Try clearing the system cache.
All Samsung's need to be optimized and I'm not talking about enabling power management. It tends to do the opposite and will likely cause erratic behavior.
What's going on with the ram?
Wonder if scoped storage is helping to screw it up? It uses extra cpu cycles not sure if it impacts ram usage though. I deliberately avoided Android 11 and 12 because of it... no regrets.
blackhawk said:
Try clearing the system cache.
All Samsung's need to be optimized and I'm not talking about enabling power management. It tends to do the opposite and will likely cause erratic behavior.
What's going on with the ram?
Wonder if scoped storage is helping to screw it up? It uses extra cpu cycles not sure if it impacts ram usage though. I deliberately avoided Android 11 and 12 because of it... no regrets.
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Just seems like only 4 apps at a time can stay in memory anything after that is reloaded.
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Just seems like only 4 apps at a time can stay in memory anything after that is reloaded.
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Can you change that in Developer options?
Standard limit... or did they change the "standard"?
Lol, I close out apps constantly especially Brave browser which always runs in the background otherwise.
joemossjr said:
Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
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Exynos i think?
joemossjr said:
Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
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I think people need to accept that Android is essentially malware and was designed by a company to continuously extract as much information on you as possible behind the scenes. I would estimate at least 90% of all Android apps participate in this game to gain your info for profit. People wonder why phones are sluggish with all this activity happening in the background. This is the cost for all of us users to get an OS and application environment for free.
So the fact that each of us needs to fine tune, debloat, optimize, etc on any new phone to reign in the OS and apps to get acceptable performance is not something new. It really is a journey to research and get any phone working smoothly as each one of us has different use cases.
PS - my new S22 Ultra (SD/T-Mobile) is fast as lightning and I'm very happy with it.
This has been the worst new phone transition I've ever had. From trying to order to Samsung stretching the truth about the specs, to configuring every app from scratch. To multiple Factory Resets just to solve something buggy. To Google apps not performing the same.
I expected the major debloat and privacy settings. I did not expect T-Mo to install Facebook 4 times nor that it would take 6 phone calls to unlock a phone I paid for fully.
I am happy with the performance, screen, and the camera is beyond words. Hoping I am about done configuring and side loading. adb is your friend.
So far, the S22 Ultra feels like the Note20 Ultra with faster data speeds, better battery life, and slightly better camera. There is nothing earth shattering but overall seems a bit better. My only complaints are the weaker vibrate motor and lack of microSD card support.
I had a chance to test the S21 Ultra against the S22 Ultra and found the S21 Ultra to have slightly better speakers, stronger vibration motor, slightly better battery life and it's nice that it comes with up to 16 GB RAM. It's easier to hold as well, but the screen aspect ratio is less practical in many cases. It also gets warmer than the S22 Ultra.
For everything that improves with these iterative upgrades, there are a few steps back. If you're happy with your Note20 Ultra or S21 Ultra, I'd say there's no rush to upgrade unless you get an amazing deal.
joemossjr said:
Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
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Not seeing any of the lag with shutter you talking about. With or without the flash and 4k 60fps video recording works fine too even in the dark. As for the Ram+ I got mine set at 8gb and I can open and run 12 apps without any problem whatsoever. Never had any problems with T-Mobile signal. Maybe you should try a fresh install? I havent really had any issues since day one other than battery life sucks. I didn't do a fresh install either. I just used Samsung Smartwatch to setup the phone exactly like my S20U which I traded for the Unlocked 512gb using a prepaid T-Mobile plan so no T-mobile software or bloat on here.
Rubby1025 said:
I think people need to accept that Android is essentially malware and was designed by a company to continuously extract as much information on you as possible behind the scenes. I would estimate at least 90% of all Android apps participate in this game to gain your info for profit. People wonder why phones are sluggish with all this activity happening in the background. This is the cost for all of us users to get an OS and application environment for free.
So the fact that each of us needs to fine tune, debloat, optimize, etc on any new phone to reign in the OS and apps to get acceptable performance is not something new. It really is a journey to research and get any phone working smoothly as each one of us has different use cases.
PS - my new S22 Ultra (SD/T-Mobile) is fast as lightning and I'm very happy with it.
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Sorry. No. This ain't it cheif. People make the same argument for TVs (that if they were to make "dummy" TVs without Android it would be a $5K set... um $5K TVs exist and still have the spyware). The gaslighting by manufacturers is real.
Also 2~5K sets then did indeed exist, and for the sake of argument I'm not gonna talk inflation cause it really didn't change /that/ much aside from all mfr's getting greedy since covid. 2010's "smart" TVs didn't exist and the "smart" features were only on more expensive sets, as well as being more useless than today.
I paid for the hardware. But it's a "license to use" argument is the same bull that the pro-copyright NES crowd uses... sheesh
Paul_Deemer said:
Not seeing any of the lag with shutter you talking about. With or without the flash and 4k 60fps video recording works fine too even in the dark. As for the Ram+ I got mine set at 8gb and I can open and run 12 apps without any problem whatsoever. Never had any problems with T-Mobile signal. Maybe you should try a fresh install? I havent really had any issues since day one other than battery life sucks. I didn't do a fresh install either. I just used Samsung Smartwatch to setup the phone exactly like my S20U which I traded for the Unlocked 512gb using a prepaid T-Mobile plan so no T-mobile software or bloat on here.
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Something is wrong if you're getting bad battery life. It's because you didn't do a fresh install, try factory resetting and it'll be way better.
S22 Ultra 5G US AT&T locked Snapdragon 512gb AVC8 flashed U1 firmware
Kris_b1104 said:
Something is wrong if you're getting bad battery life. It's because you didn't do a fresh install, try factory resetting and it'll be way better.
S22 Ultra 5G US AT&T locked Snapdragon 512gb AVC8 flashed U1 firmware
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Factory reset guarantees nothing. Best to find the root cause to avoid a recurrence. Since each load is unique to the user, unique issues can and do evolve.
Use factory reset for: major upgrades, if you used SmartSwitch (don't make the same mistake twice), malware or if a buggy 3rd party app that altered hidden user settings you can't undo.
blackhawk said:
Factory reset guarantees nothing. Best to find the root cause to avoid a recurrence. Since each load is unique to the user, unique issues can and do evolve.
Use factory reset for: major upgrades, if you used SmartSwitch (don't make the same mistake twice), malware or if a buggy 3rd party app that altered hidden user settings you can't undo.
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It's a last resort but if has to be done then that's what you gotta do. It's the endgame. If it don't work after that your screwed.
Paul_Deemer said:
It's a last resort but if has to be done then that's what you gotta do. It's the endgame. If it don't work after that your screwed.
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If you inadvertently add the app(s) or setting(s) that caused it, you just shot yourself in the foot, again.
Never use SmartSwitch if the first load went bad using it, do a clean load instead.
Tracking down the cause can be time consuming but it's a lesson learned and time saved in the future; a reload is very time consuming. I reserve it for primarily boot loops and persistent malware.
My current load has been saved from a factory reset a couple of times, still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. It will be 2 yo this June.
Some those fixes seemed impossible at first but all were done within the confines of a stock Android without using adb edits, etc.
blackhawk said:
If you inadvertently add the app(s) or setting(s) that caused it, you just shot yourself in the foot, again.
Never use SmartSwitch if the first load went bad using it, do a clean load instead.
Tracking down the cause can be time consuming but it's a lesson learned and time saved in the future; a reload is very time consuming. I reserve it for primarily boot loops and persistent malware.
My current load has been saved from a factory reset a couple of times, still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. It will be 2 yo this June.
Some those fixes seemed impossible at first but all were done within the confines of a stock Android without using adb edits, etc.
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Well I haven't had a single issue with mine even using smart switch but others heve. Guess I am just one of the lucky ones.
Paul_Deemer said:
Well I haven't had a single issue with mine even using smart switch but others heve. Guess I am just one of the lucky ones.
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That's a good thing
It's completely unpredictable. I've used SmartSwitch without issues. I don't trust it at all though... I remember Kies
It may have screwed up the load on my newest N10+, still troubleshooting it. It developed a... lag No big deal.
Almost all issues can be resolved by simply "playing" with it, Adroids wuv attention.

Question looking at a new pixel 7 pro!?

What is the support for unlocked and for root and roms like? What is your experience if you have it, pros & cons? what would make it perfect? whats it missing?
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What is the support for unlocked and for root and roms like? What is your experience if you have it, pros & cons? what would make it perfect? whats it missing?
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It's an early scene for roms there's a few out there ... But support usually falls off
Not an expert by any means, but it was very easy to root--especially with the Pixel Flasher. Haven't tried any custom ROMs yet, as I'm pretty happy with the Android 13 beta releases.
i42o said:
It's an early scene for roms there's a few out there ... But support usually falls off
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Thats good and im not familiar with them they come unlocked?
wilberfan said:
Not an expert by any means, but it was very easy to root--especially with the Pixel Flasher. Haven't tried any custom ROMs yet, as I'm pretty happy with the Android 13 beta releases.
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Awesome glad to hear that do you have any other pro con things what other phone where you looking at vs this one?
NafGeep said:
Awesome glad to hear that do you have any other pro con things what other phone where you looking at vs this one?
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Cons is the sub par battery performance and lack of straight out of the box VoLTE & 5G support for non official supported country
Pros is as usual : easy to unlock, root etc, great camera.
If i didn't pick 7 pro, i might already pick Xiaomi 12s Ultra. It has better hardware all around, including camera. But i still prefer google's software & OS iteration, although i kinda hope google to actually cherry pick some other great features from other OEMs software/ROM
Battery life seems to be pot luck to be honest, mine is stella compared to what my Pixel 6 Pro was, i often don't charge it on an evening if its lead a fairly light day and I've never seen it go below 15% even when i have absolutely battered the living daylights out of it.
Very easy to root, and with the stock build being as close to vanilla as you can get, absolutely no need for custom roms in my view.
My battery life since day one back in mid-October has been fantastic with a slight downward turn on the December build. Back up to what I was getting previously on January though.
Beefheart said:
Very easy to root, and with the stock build being as close to vanilla as you can get, absolutely no need for custom roms in my view.
My battery life since day one back in mid-October has been fantastic with a slight downward turn on the December build. Back up to what I was getting previously on January though.
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Man I'm jealous. Mine was epic, then suddenly about 2 weeks ago, it's just become miserably bad
HipKat said:
Man I'm jealous. Mine was epic, then suddenly about 2 weeks ago, it's just become miserably bad
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I'm not sure about if and when you updated, but I suggest you try disabling adaptive battery, I feel like my SoT and idle are a bit better with it disabled.
HipKat said:
Man I'm jealous. Mine was epic, then suddenly about 2 weeks ago, it's just become miserably bad
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Not to turn this away from the OP's queries and get off-topic, but same. Can't seem to nail down the cause. Completely stock too, so I'm assuming it's something in a recent firmware update. Hopefully it returns to it's previously glorious battery life.
Medic1933 said:
Not to turn this away from the OP's queries and get off-topic, but same. Can't seem to nail down the cause. Completely stock too, so I'm assuming it's something in a recent firmware update. Hopefully it returns to it's previously glorious battery life.
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It is a bit off topic, but I’m not sure it derailing his questions because this is a legitimate concern with this device. I think this weekend I’m going to do another factory reset and stay with the stock kernel even though I don’t believe kernel related, I still have to tested just to make sure.
@MarcoReckless I took that advice about two weeks ago, and that made it even worse.
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Awesome glad to hear that do you have any other pro con things what other phone where you looking at vs this one?
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I came from a OnePlus 7T to the Pixel 6--out of sheer curiosity. I liked the 6 so much, that I couldn't resist the 7 when it was announced...and sprung for the Pro. I've been really happy with it. I'm not a poweruser by any means, so I haven't put it thru any severe tests. You might try reddit if you're looking for "cons" on the phone--there are always plenty of complaints over there! ;-) (Just remember that 'satisfied' people speak up less in general.)
HipKat said:
It is a bit off topic, but I’m not sure it derailing his questions because this is a legitimate concern with this device. I think this weekend I’m going to do another factory reset and stay with the stock kernel even though I don’t believe kernel related, I still have to tested just to make sure.
@MarcoReckless I took that advice about two weeks ago, and that made it even worse.
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That's a valid point regarding the topic. I think I've seen you on the Kiri kernel thread? I'm completely stock (that was painful to write haha) since I wanted to wait for development to mature a bit, so I'm assuming it's firmware related since we are running different kernels. Idle drain and SoT are both affected on my device. I even disabled my VPN app to see if maybe it was some sort of network strain, but it's literally the same. Please keep me posted if you wipe over the weekend and it helps. The drain isn't crazy for me, but enough that I feel it and end the day ~15% lower than a couple weeks ago.
There is more custom ROM support for this device that's been out for 3 months than there usually is for other devices that have been out for a year. It's not as visible here because a number of these devs moved to Telegram where they can make their own rules rather than here where they're required to provide sources and are expected to actually be helpful to people making requests of them but there are a bunch of them out there and in my opinion, the best ones are on XDA anyway.
I actually had an issue with my display and I was expecting the worst but they sent me to a uBreakiFix and I walked out with a new screen in less than an hour after less than 20 minutes chatting with a Pixel support rep, and I got it repaired the same day even. When that screen proved to be defective too, uBreakiFix replaced it a second time without me even having to contact Google and that took about an hour. If I still had my OnePlus, that would have been weeks of mailing and waiting, and that's assuming they didn't try to tell me it was my fault like they have with other people who got green lines on their screens with no visible damage and were charged hundreds to repair it. This earned Google a lot of points in my book.
The battery is... It's a battery.
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As you can see, it gets me through a day or so. The high screen off usage is largely driven by how much I use VLC to shuffle play videos with the screen off when I'm sleeping at night. During the day it's something like 2% which is not the best but honestly I don't care as long as I get through a day or so without charging.
I do have one thing to gripe about though - this modem is not a 3GPP Release 16 modem. This means it's missing a number of new frequencies. This affects me personally as AT&T has 40MHz of 3.45GHz n77 spectrum deployed here and the phone cannot use it, only 3.7GHz n77 that they cannot use here until 2024. Additionally this phone doesn't support n70 or n48 for Dish's wireless, who will actually be switching me from AT&T's towers to their own in the coming months (I have Boost Infinite), so I am keeping an eye out to see what flagships launch this year with those bands supported to decide if I'm dumping the Pixel or not (unfortunately the S23 Ultra is looking like it won't support n70 even though the modem in it does). I guess that at least gives me some time to see how my phone performs with the missing bands when I get the new Boost Infinite SIM card - it may not be necessary for me to switch phones regardless.
Oh yeah and the charging is slow. About 1h55m to charge to 100%. You can get 50% in 30 minutes though so it hasn't been a real issue either.
Medic1933 said:
That's a valid point regarding the topic. I think I've seen you on the Kiri kernel thread? I'm completely stock (that was painful to write haha) since I wanted to wait for development to mature a bit, so I'm assuming it's firmware related since we are running different kernels. Idle drain and SoT are both affected on my device. I even disabled my VPN app to see if maybe it was some sort of network strain, but it's literally the same. Please keep me posted if you wipe over the weekend and it helps. The drain isn't crazy for me, but enough that I feel it and end the day ~15% lower than a couple weeks ago.
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My idle drain when I first flashback to stock last weekend was about 1% and now it’s up to about 3% and my active drain, which started out around 5% is typically anywhere from 9 to 13%.
This is from right now after just having put it back on my car charger.
Any other conversation about this particular topic, I think we should move to the battery drain thread on page 2 of this forum
HipKat said:
My idle drain when I first flashback to stock last weekend was about 1% and now it’s up to about 3% and my active drain, which started out around 5% is typically anywhere from 9 to 13%.
This is from right now after just having put it back on my car charger.
Any other conversation about this particular topic, I think we should move to the battery drain thread on page 2 of this forum
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That is, indeed, quite a leap for less than a week of use. Mine isn't quite that bad yet but it is slowly getting there. Much agreed on continuing the conversation in the appropriate thread and my apologies to the OP. Didn't intend to hijack this thread.
NafGeep said:
What is the support for unlocked and for root and roms like? What is your experience if you have it, pros & cons? what would make it perfect? whats it missing?
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pixel7pro is one of the best phone you can get in 2023.
I wish Google put the annoying front camera under display and not cutting that hole in middle of the screen.
p7p has easy root and no need for a custom ROM anymore.
EtherealRemnant said:
There is more custom ROM support for this device that's been out for 3 months than there usually is for other devices that have been out for a year. It's not as visible here because a number of these devs moved to Telegram where they can make their own rules rather than here where they're required to provide sources and are expected to actually be helpful to people making requests of them but there are a bunch of them out there and in my opinion, the best ones are on XDA anyway.
I actually had an issue with my display and I was expecting the worst but they sent me to a uBreakiFix and I walked out with a new screen in less than an hour after less than 20 minutes chatting with a Pixel support rep, and I got it repaired the same day even. When that screen proved to be defective too, uBreakiFix replaced it a second time without me even having to contact Google and that took about an hour. If I still had my OnePlus, that would have been weeks of mailing and waiting, and that's assuming they didn't try to tell me it was my fault like they have with other people who got green lines on their screens with no visible damage and were charged hundreds to repair it. This earned Google a lot of points in my book.
The battery is... It's a battery.
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As you can see, it gets me through a day or so. The high screen off usage is largely driven by how much I use VLC to shuffle play videos with the screen off when I'm sleeping at night. During the day it's something like 2% which is not the best but honestly I don't care as long as I get through a day or so without charging.
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I do have one thing to gripe about though - this modem is not a 3GPP Release 16 modem. This means it's missing a number of new frequencies. This affects me personally as AT&T has 40MHz of 3.45GHz n77 spectrum deployed here and the phone cannot use it, only 3.7GHz n77 that they cannot use here until 2024. Additionally this phone doesn't support n70 or n48 for Dish's wireless, who will actually be switching me from AT&T's towers to their own in the coming months (I have Boost Infinite), so I am keeping an eye out to see what flagships launch this year with those bands supported to decide if I'm dumping the Pixel or not (unfortunately the S23 Ultra is looking like it won't support n70 even though the modem in it does). I guess that at least gives me some time to see how my phone performs with the missing bands when I get the new Boost Infinite SIM card - it may not be necessary for me to switch phones regardless.
Oh yeah and the charging is slow. About 1h55m to charge to 100%. You can get 50% in 30 minutes though so it hasn't been a real issue either.
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That's cool that you're switching to Dish's system. I work for Dish so I've been watching this all unfold over the last few years
HipKat said:
That's cool that you're switching to Dish's system. I work for Dish so I've been watching this all unfold over the last few years
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I live less than 10 minutes from Dish Wireless's HQ at the Dish Riverfront site (that used to actually be Dish's HQ period before they moved to Englewood, the street at Riverfront is even called Echostar although I can't remember if it's Drive, Lane, or what) and would like to work for them... With my knowledge of all these things I could at the very least be worth having in tech support, that's even without my 6 years of experience doing customer service, sales, tech support, and help desk roles... Unfortunately they seem to only be interested in full timers and my status as being disabled (panic disorder and agoraphobia which is why their work from home positions were very appealing to me) and looking to re-enter the workforce just doesn't really make it seem like it's worth my time trying to convince them otherwise. It's unfortunate too as I help run one of the largest subreddits dedicated to phone plans and could be very useful as they try to get Infinite off the ground. I even had a customer service rep try to convince me to join them as she recognized me by my name on reddit but she herself said that if I can't work full time, it's probably a non-starter.
It is fascinating what they are trying to do though. Swimming with the big fish is going to take some talented people. I am cheering from the sidelines.

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