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how to update to 4.4.x after this... New to android

First of all, I have been reading this forum for about two weeks and just registered in order to get some help as I do not want to break my one week old nexus 5.
From my reading, the updates can be done in quite different ways and because of that I want to be sure what I should do.
I started by:
- root the mobile with cf-auto root. It did everything for me, got the superuser icon automatically
- installed clockwork mod and I have the custom recovery. By the way, I made a backup with it but where was it written? I want to copy it to my pc.
- other than that, I have installed some root only apps like rom manager, greenify, root Explorer, etc. I supported those developers with purchase. Those guys deserve it.
Anyway, i am looking for the safe way to update to 4.4.1. I read some members saying they lost root after the update, others lost something else (I am referring to the thread on nexus 5 general forum).
Can you help me? What path shall I go? Thanks a lot.

To update you'll basically have to go back to stock in a way. By that I mean you can either flash the System.img file from the Factory Image and then update using the update files for 4.4.1 by flashing it in recovery (via Sideload) and then just root again. OR you can install an updated "Stock" 4.4.1 image from the development section and root that.

cesar.maranhao said:
- installed clockwork mod and I have the custom recovery. By the way, I made a backup with it but where was it written? I want to copy it to my pc.
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Hi, your backups are in /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup/
Copy to your PC with 'adb pull /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup'
Cheers

shotta35 said:
To update you'll basically have to go back to stock in a way. By that I mean you can either flash the System.img file from the Factory Image and then update using the update files for 4.4.1 by flashing it in recovery (via Sideload) and then just root again. OR you can install an updated "Stock" 4.4.1 image from the development section and root that.
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i sense i am getting somewhere but how do i do that? i am new to this and been reading a lot but the first time all seems very vague. i need a little more help from you!
lets assume i want to just apply the 4.4.1 update (maybe this is the easiest way for now). how do i do it?
also, after the update succeds, i need to root again correct? what happens to all the apps i have right now with root permissions? do they stop working until i root again and give them root privileges again? can i use the cf auto root again?
also, i am on ART, i thought of letting you know since that can cause some problems updating(??)

finistere said:
Hi, your backups are in /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup/
Copy to your PC with 'adb pull /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup'
Cheers
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thanks!
one more thing...
can't i copy that folder like a regular folder? just copy paste?
or move that folder (with root explorer) to my dropbox folder?

cesar.maranhao said:
i sense i am getting somewhere but how do i do that? i am new to this and been reading a lot but the first time all seems very vague. i need a little more help from you!
lets assume i want to just apply the 4.4.1 update (maybe this is the easiest way for now). how do i do it?
also, after the update succeds, i need to root again correct? what happens to all the apps i have right now with root permissions? do they stop working until i root again and give them root privileges again? can i use the cf auto root again?
also, i am on ART, i thought of letting you know since that can cause some problems updating(??)
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If you want to apply the new update it all depends on your current setup. I gave you vague options because I don't know what you've done to your phone. If you've only rooted and not changed any of the files in system then it's easy to just flash the update with the recovery. You can download the update and then start recovery (look it up). Once in recovery start ADB sideload and connect to your PC (this assumes you already have working ADB, if not.... look it up ). To sideload you just need to adb sideload filename.zip. You can probably use WugFresh's Toolkit to also sideload but I generally don't use those so dunno what they do these days. Much easier to learn and understand what it does then do it yourself.
If you have a custom recovery you might just be able to flash the update with the recovery like you normally flash any zip in recovery.
cesar.maranhao said:
thanks!
one more thing...
can't i copy that folder like a regular folder? just copy paste?
or move that folder (with root explorer) to my dropbox folder?
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You can just copy it, no need to use ADB but this is why it's good to know how to use ADB.

shotta35 said:
If you want to apply the new update it all depends on your current setup. I gave you vague options because I don't know what you've done to your phone. If you've only rooted and not changed any of the files in system then it's easy to just flash the update with the recovery. You can download the update and then start recovery (look it up). Once in recovery start ADB sideload and connect to your PC (this assumes you already have working ADB, if not.... look it up ). To sideload you just need to adb sideload filename.zip. You can probably use WugFresh's Toolkit to also sideload but I generally don't use those so dunno what they do these days. Much easier to learn and understand what it does then do it yourself.
If you have a custom recovery you might just be able to flash the update with the recovery like you normally flash any zip in recovery.
You can just copy it, no need to use ADB but this is why it's good to know how to use ADB.
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thanks for the reply. i am reading on the adb sideload right now... i already have the update zip inside the platform tools. however, in the command prompt, it says my device is unauthorized (i have both the usb debugging and unknown sources ticked). the nexus 5 is connected as MTP.
any clues?
about what i have done to my nexus, i applied the cf autoroot, installed clockwork mod... nothing much besides some play store apps..
as for this paragraph:
"If you have a custom recovery you might just be able to flash the update with the recovery like you normally flash any zip in recovery. "
i have never done it, hence all these questions!

cesar.maranhao said:
thanks for the reply. i am reading on the adb sideload right now... i already have the update zip inside the platform tools. however, in the command prompt, it says my device is unauthorized (i have both the usb debugging and unknown sources ticked). the nexus 5 is connected as MTP.
any clues?
about what i have done to my nexus, i applied the cf autoroot, installed clockwork mod... nothing much besides some play store apps..
as for this paragraph:
"If you have a custom recovery you might just be able to flash the update with the recovery like you normally flash any zip in recovery. "
i have never done it, hence all these questions!
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You do it from Recovery. So just copy the file to the phone in some folder. You can't update the phone with it running. So reboot to CWM and then choose Install from ZIP then find the file on your storage and then choose update. That may or may not work as I said depending.
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Plenty of these questions around... check them out first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561198
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47369234
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561076

shotta35 said:
If you want to apply the new update it all depends on your current setup. I gave you vague options because I don't know what you've done to your phone. If you've only rooted and not changed any of the files in system then it's easy to just flash the update with the recovery. You can download the update and then start recovery (look it up). Once in recovery start ADB sideload and connect to your PC (this assumes you already have working ADB, if not.... look it up ). To sideload you just need to adb sideload filename.zip. You can probably use WugFresh's Toolkit to also sideload but I generally don't use those so dunno what they do these days. Much easier to learn and understand what it does then do it yourself.
If you have a custom recovery you might just be able to flash the update with the recovery like you normally flash any zip in recovery.
You can just copy it, no need to use ADB but this is why it's good to know how to use ADB.
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cesar.maranhao said:
thanks for the reply. i am reading on the adb sideload right now... i already have the update zip inside the platform tools. however, in the command prompt, it says my device is unauthorized (i have both the usb debugging and unknown sources ticked). the nexus 5 is connected as MTP.
any clues?
about what i have done to my nexus, i applied the cf autoroot, installed clockwork mod... nothing much besides some play store apps..
as for this paragraph:
"If you have a custom recovery you might just be able to flash the update with the recovery like you normally flash any zip in recovery. "
i have never done it, hence all these questions!
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shotta35 said:
You do it from Recovery. So just copy the file to the phone in some folder. You can't update the phone with it running. So reboot to CWM and then choose Install from ZIP then find the file on your storage and then choose update. That may or may not work as I said depending.
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Plenty of these questions around... check them out first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561198
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47369234
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561076
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yes, i have been reading those topics and many others.. i managed to solve the adb device unauthorized anyway. just flashed the 4.4.1 zip file under clockwork mod recover.. android is upgrading at the moment. lets see if everything is work as it should.

No need to sideload adb bla bla..
copy the OTA zip into the phone, and just flash it in CWM (install file from internal storage).. 1 minute and done.
You'll get error status 7 at checking if you changed something in system (apart from rooting), else you shouldn't have any problem.

RusherDude said:
No need to sideload adb bla bla..
copy the OTA zip into the phone, and just flash it in CWM.. 1 minute and done.
You'll get error status 7 at checking if you changed something in system (apart from rooting), else you shouldn't have any problem.
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yes, everything is fine. 4.4.1 loaded fine without any errors. i have root checker and when i tested, it says i do not have proper root access. i also lost my clockwork mod recovery.
i am now checking into it to see what needs to be done to gain root access again and get the custom recovery as it was before the update.

cesar.maranhao said:
yes, everything is fine. 4.4.1 loaded fine without any errors. i have root checker and when i tested, it says i do not have proper root access. i also lost my clockwork mod recovery.
i am now checking into it to see what needs to be done to gain root access again and get the custom recovery as it was before the update.
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You need to flash the recovery again via fastboot (youll lose it every time, unless you flash the flashable recovery ZIP just after flashing the OTA and before rebooting the phone).You'll have this problem every OTA unless you flash the zipped version everytime.
I'd recommend the easy way to root, get the SuperSU binaries and flash them through the custom recovery and you're done..

RusherDude said:
No need to sideload adb bla bla..
copy the OTA zip into the phone, and just flash it in CWM (install file from internal storage).. 1 minute and done.
You'll get error status 7 at checking if you changed something in system (apart from rooting), else you shouldn't have any problem.
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RusherDude said:
You need to flash the recovery again via fastboot (youll lose it every time, unless you flash the flashable recovery ZIP just after flashing the OTA and before rebooting the phone).You'll have this problem every OTA unless you flash the zipped version everytime.
I'd recommend the easy way to root, get the SuperSU binaries and flash them through the custom recovery and you're done..
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i see. things are starting to make sense for me.
before reading you post, i tried to get the clockwork mod recovery through the Rom Manager App. it failed. i am now looking for those files you mentioned.
EDIT: i am at the clockworkmod recovery website... is the file i want an IMG?

cesar.maranhao said:
i see. things are starting to make sense for me.
before reading you post, i tried to get the clockwork mod recovery through the Rom Manager App. it failed. i am now looking for those files you mentioned.
EDIT: i am at the clockworkmod recovery website... is the file i want an IMG?
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You'd only be looking for the supersu binaries, since you already have the recovery IMG from te previous time, right? (the one that you need for fastboot).
EDIT: Yes, IMG files are for fastboot, ZIP files for recovery.

RusherDude said:
You'd only be looking for the supersu binaries, since you already have the recovery IMG from te previous time, right? (the one that you need for fastboot).
EDIT: Yes, IMG files are for fastboot, ZIP files for recovery.
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but how do i install it? when i go into recovery it only gives me 4 options:
reboot system now
apply update from adb
wipe cache/factory reset
wipe cache partition
i am lost

cesar.maranhao said:
but how do i install it? when i go into recovery it only gives me 4 options:
reboot system now
apply update from adb
wipe cache/factory reset
wipe cache partition
i am lost
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That's the stock recovery, you can't do nothing from there.
You need to flash the recovery via fastboot (didn't you do that the first time to get your custom recovery..?)
Check this tutorial mate: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507905

RusherDude said:
You'd only be looking for the supersu binaries, since you already have the recovery IMG from te previous time, right? (the one that you need for fastboot).
EDIT: Yes, IMG files are for fastboot, ZIP files for recovery.
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RusherDude said:
That's the stock recovery, you can't do nothing from there.
You need to flash the recovery via fastboot (didn't you do that the first time to get your custom recovery..?)
Check this tutorial mate: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507905
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no, i got the custom recovery when i installed clockworkmod recovery from the play store. i am now reading the thread you linked me! thanks!

cesar.maranhao said:
no, i got the custom recovery when i installed clockworkmod recovery from the play store. i am now reading the thread you linked me! thanks!
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done it! i now have root again and the clockworkmod custom recovery! nice!
:good:

RusherDude said:
You need to flash the recovery again via fastboot (youll lose it every time, unless you flash the flashable recovery ZIP just after flashing the OTA and before rebooting the phone).You'll have this problem every OTA unless you flash the zipped version everytime.
I'd recommend the easy way to root, get the SuperSU binaries and flash them through the custom recovery and you're done..
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from where can i get the flashable clokwork mod recovery zip file?
i am going to apply the 4.4.2 update now and will be doing it this way:
from the recovery apply the 4.4.2 zip. after this apply the supersu zip. i want to install the custom recovery zip too so when the phone restarts everything will be configured. is this possible?

RusherDude said:
You need to flash the recovery again via fastboot (youll lose it every time, unless you flash the flashable recovery ZIP just after flashing the OTA and before rebooting the phone).You'll have this problem every OTA unless you flash the zipped version everytime.
I'd recommend the easy way to root, get the SuperSU binaries and flash them through the custom recovery and you're done..
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well, it seems i haven't lost my custom recovery. was it because i installed the supersu before rebooting?

root?

I ran Skipsoft's toolkit, very nice by the way, and it unlocked and installed TWRP. It rebooted and I flashed TWRP from TWRP. Then it rebooted so I wasn't able to install SU and root it. Plus I wasn't able to push SU 2.79 to my Pixel, it have several errors.
Question. Now that I have some time I want to know if I can flash su2.79 from TWRP, from the phone, instead of with the tool kit on my PC. I can boot into fastboot and then into TWRP easily.
Google's Pixel 128g
Running 7.1.1
Thank you

is there a way you could share these error messages with us?
And of course, you can flash SuperSU.zip from TWRP. Just follow the instructions in the SuperSu thread.
But why do you need a tool to accomplish these things for you? It's also simple when you don't use such a toolkit.

Cooly1911 said:
I ran Skipsoft's toolkit, very nice by the way, and it unlocked and installed TWRP. It rebooted and I flashed TWRP from TWRP. Then it rebooted so I wasn't able to install SU and root it. Plus I wasn't able to push SU 2.79 to my Pixel, it have several errors.
Question. Now that I have some time I want to know if I can flash su2.79 from TWRP, from the phone, instead of with the tool kit on my PC. I can boot into fastboot and then into TWRP easily.
Google's Pixel 128g
Running 7.1.1
Thank you
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To be clear, the SU you are using is 2.79 SR3?

The errors were when the toolkit tried to push the SU zip to the phone. I tried it several ways If you want I could try it again and take a screenshot
I like the toolkit, I've used it once before. It's easy steps to follow, and a proven method with less room for human error.
Thanks for your response

Yes Tonik. I downloaded a copy this morning.

Cooly1911 said:
Yes Tonik. I downloaded a copy this morning.
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Copy it to your phone, boot into TWRP and install it.

Ok. Thank you!

That worked beautifully. Thanks again!!

[solved] June updates are out, but which one?

Which June factory image is for the "everything else" devices... NHG47N or NHG47B?
Edit: Sorry, just figured it out, but it took info from another site other than Google's to find out that "N" is for Verizon and "B" is for everyone else.

CatThief said:
[solved] Which June factory image is for the "everything else" devices... NHG47N or NHG47B?
Edit: Sorry, just figured it out, but it took info from another site other than Google's to find out that "N" is for Verizon and "B" is for everyone else.
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There's actually 4 different builds.
See here for what's what

Yep, I did that. There is no description there for "N" but I found out "B" is the one I want.

I always get Failed to udate, try again when installing the ota via settings.

Juli112 said:
I always get Failed to udate, try again when installing the ota via settings.
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Have you unlocked the bootloader and modified the phone in any way? Personally I've rooted my phone with SuperSU, so I've been using FlashFire to install the OTA.

alluringreality said:
Have you unlocked the bootloader and modified the phone in any way? Personally I've rooted my phone with SuperSU, so I've been using FlashFire to install the OTA.
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Did you update already. I read somewhere since the may update that if you have bootloader unlocked, rooted, and another kernel you get bootloops?
Is that true? I'm still on April security update and been using stock rom, just unlocked bootloader, rooted, and using elementalx kernel

I still have the May update on my phone, so I was just reading what people were saying about June before installing. According to posts like the first link, the current version of SuperSU does not sign the boot image. Signing the boot image as the last step is reportedly needed to avoid bootloops for the May or later bootloader. If someone is just using SuperSU, they can use the zip from the second link after SuperSU, which is what I did for May.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72451572&postcount=1357
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...signing-boot-images-android-verified-t3600606
I don't use ElementalX, but I've read a few posts indicating that it will also sign the boot image when installed last.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72181714&postcount=1435

I did a flash-all (with -w removed) of NHG47B, then booted TWRP where I installed SuperSU and also VerifiedBootSigner-v8.zip before rebooting and everything is working fine.

alluringreality said:
I still have the May update on my phone, so I was just reading what people were saying about June before installing. According to posts like the first link, the current version of SuperSU does not sign the boot image. Signing the boot image as the last step is reportedly needed to avoid bootloops for the May or later bootloader. If someone is just using SuperSU, they can use the zip from the second link after SuperSU, which is what I did for May.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72451572&postcount=1357
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...signing-boot-images-android-verified-t3600606
I don't use ElementalX, but I've read a few posts indicating that it will also sign the boot image when installed last.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72181714&postcount=1435
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hey thanks i got everything up and running with the new June OTA. but what do you use to reflash TWRP?
flashify just freezes i tried to use flashfire to install the twrp zip and that failed, im still on stock recovery. Is there a way to do this without having to plug the phone into my pc? thanks!

Nope. twrp.img must be firstly boot into the phone, then via this temporary twrp,you can install twrp.zip from your phone.
kazemitsui said:
hey thanks i got everything up and running with the new June OTA. but what do you use to reflash TWRP?
flashify just freezes i tried to use flashfire to install the twrp zip and that failed, im still on stock recovery. Is there a way to do this without having to plug the phone into my pc? thanks!
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CatThief said:
I did a flash-all (with -w removed) of NHG47B, then booted TWRP where I installed SuperSU and also VerifiedBootSigner-v8.zip before rebooting and everything is working fine.
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Twrp rc1 or rc2?
Supersu 2.82 or 2.79rc3?

TENN3R said:
Twrp rc1 or rc2?
Supersu 2.82 or 2.79rc3?
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I used twrp-3.0.2-0-RC1-fastboot-sailfish.img because it was the only version that was stable for me from the start. When the January update came out I tried the current TWRP at that time (it was an RC3, can't remember the version) and while others had no problems I had an experience of my own that I'm not keen on repeating.
As for SuperSU, I installed SR5-SuperSU-v2.78-SR5-20161130091551.zip then updated to the latest 2.82 from Google Play.
I know​, newer releases may work now, but I was only going to try something newer if my "old" method failed. Like I said, I only boot to TWRP, I don't​ flash it. I just want root.

kazemitsui said:
i tried to use flashfire to install the twrp zip and that failed, im still on stock recovery. Is there a way to do this without having to plug the phone into my pc? thanks!
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When you tried installing TWRP with FlashFire, did you put the boot signer after TWRP? The TWRP install has to be signed with the current bootloader. The FlashFire documents make it seem like it should be able to install TWRP, but I haven't tried installing TWRP and can't find any relevant posts, so I suppose it might not work.
https://flashfire.chainfire.eu/actions/zip/
Personally I've just been using the small OTAs that come to the phone the past few months, but the following post indicates that FlashFire can at least retain a previously-installed version of TWRP without issue.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70929003&postcount=8
TENN3R said:
Supersu 2.82 or 2.79rc3?
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I had installed 2.79 RC3 with the May update, and then I had taken the play store update to 2.82. When I did the June update with FlashFire I'm guessing it must have went back to 2.79 RC3, because I got the update message again. I haven't seen anything to suggest either is likely an issue with the Pixel.

alluringreality said:
When you tried installing TWRP with FlashFire, did you put the boot signer after TWRP? The TWRP install has to be signed with the current bootloader. The FlashFire documents make it seem like it should be able to install TWRP, but I haven't tried installing TWRP and can't find any relevant posts, so I suppose it might not work.
https://flashfire.chainfire.eu/actions/zip/
Personally I've just been using the small OTAs that come to the phone the past few months, but the following post indicates that FlashFire can at least retain a previously-installed version of TWRP without issue.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70929003&postcount=8
I had installed 2.79 RC3 with the May update, and then I had taken the play store update to 2.82. When I did the June update with FlashFire I'm guessing it must have went back to 2.79 RC3, because I got the update message again. I haven't seen anything to suggest either is likely an issue with the Pixel.
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I just flashed TWRP through my computer I couldn't bother trying to figure out if FlashFire will flash TWRP or not haha

[noob] OTA Update procedure with TWRP and Magisk

Hello, I'm still a noob trying to learn, so far with help of this forum I've learned to unlock and root my first android phone, now I'm trying to learn how to properly keep my device updated!
Can someone please give a little rundown to what are the correct steps to update OTA on a rooted twrp device?
I've been browsing the forums a lot but I seem to find a lot of different approaches, or too vague instructions.
It would be greatly appreciated if someone could help me out, step by step, and explain the steps with the commands I need to put in, if there are any.
Thank you

download the ota from here
place it on your phone
go to update on you phone then hit the cog and hit local update
let it up date
reboot to boot loader
fastboot twrp img again
then flash the installer
reboot recovery
then it will boot back in to recovery again
flash root
job done

Hello,
To save you having to fastboot boot TWRP, do the following:
Save the following files to your SDCard:
OTA.zip
Magisk.zip
TWRP.zip
Boot into TWRP
Flash OTA.zip first, then TWRP.zip straight after, then Magisk.zip straight after that, reboot.

@Swatto86 By twrp do you mean TWRP recovery or TWRP installer? I assume that you mean the installer

audinak2 said:
@Swatto86 By twrp do you mean TWRP recovery or TWRP installer? I assume that you mean the installer
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Sorry yes, put the installer zip on the sdcard

Thank you everyone for the quick replies,
What exactly is it to 'flash' the installer? Is it something I can do from the TWRP screen, just tap on it? Or will I have to put in command prompts?
audinak2 said:
@Swatto86 By twrp do you mean TWRP recovery or TWRP installer? I assume that you mean the installer
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I have followed this guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es80k627kTc to unlock/twrp/root, I have a TWRP recovery as far as I know, I'm not sure about 'installer'.
Thanks!

i just download and install the OTA through system updates. Then boot to Trwp recovery and flash magisk . Profit

DampDeceiver said:
Thank you everyone for the quick replies,
What exactly is it to 'flash' the installer? Is it something I can do from the TWRP screen, just tap on it? Or will I have to put in command prompts?
I have followed this guide
to unlock/twrp/root, I have a TWRP recovery as far as I know, I'm not sure about 'installer'.
Thanks!
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You can flash the installer zip for TWRP through TWRP itself.
Doesn't installing OTA through system settings wipe TWRP? That's why I perform all my updates from TWRP directly.

DampDeceiver said:
Thank you everyone for the quick replies,
What exactly is it to 'flash' the installer? Is it something I can do from the TWRP screen, just tap on it? Or will I have to put in command prompts?
I have followed this guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es80k627kTc to unlock/twrp/root, I have a TWRP recovery as far as I know, I'm not sure about 'installer'.
Thanks!
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You have to do twrp/root again after updates. Unlock sticks, but twrp and root don't.

there must be something strange with me then , OTA update doesnt wipe my twrp , i just flash magisk after OTA

Ajaykumar21066 said:
there must be something strange with me then , OTA update doesnt wipe my twrp , i just flash magisk after OTA
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It prob doesn't overwrite until u reboot so twrp may not have been overwritten on that partition yet, so would make sense, I need to try it out sometime

When you install OTA via system settings and reboot, the slot switches to the inactive one (where the OTA installed to) and boots. This means the previous slot (prior to reboot) still has TWRP installed.
You are probably going direct to recovery after the OTA install without doing a full reboot first.

Swatto is correct. The risk when using twrp is that you must reboot to recovery immediately after flashing the twrp installer zip, or you will boot to the old slot and things will be broken. Rebooting to recovery gets you onto the active, updated slot.
When you reboot to recovery and flash an OTA, you are flashing it to the other slot. The current slot is untouched, while the new active one is completely stock. The twrp installer zip flashes twrp to both slots.
This is the procedure to follow if you want to update via twrp. Personally, I prefer taking the OTA and reinstalling via fastboot just to make sure everything is clean.
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I have personally tested the following with TWRP already installed and twrp-installer-enchilada-3.2.1-0.zip on your phone:
Download full (not incremental) OOS ROM to your phone and check MD5
Reboot to your installed TWRP
Install the OOS ROM
Do not reboot instead stay in TWRP
Install twrp-installer-enchilada-3.2.1-0.zip
Reboot Recovery
Wipe cache
Reboot System
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Alright everyone, thanks for all the replies. I have to say even with all your help things were still really confusing for me. I went ahead and ditched TWRP (since I don't really need it anyway), updated OTA through the system, reinstalled magisk before reboot on 2nd slot (the OTA option), and rebooted. And so far all seems fine, I'm on the latest OOS version and I'm still rooted, everything seems to work. Can I do this again in the future and completely overwrite my TWRP installation on my A slot?
I kinda went with TWRP as it's supposed to be more safe for noobs but it ended up making things a lot more difficult to manage.
Thank you

DampDeceiver said:
Alright everyone, thanks for all the replies. I have to say even with all your help things were still really confusing for me. I went ahead and ditched TWRP (since I don't really need it anyway), updated OTA through the system, reinstalled magisk before reboot on 2nd slot (the OTA option), and rebooted. And so far all seems fine, I'm on the latest OOS version and I'm still rooted, everything seems to work. Can I do this again in the future and completely overwrite my TWRP installation on my A slot?
I kinda went with TWRP as it's supposed to be more safe for noobs but it ended up making things a lot more difficult to manage.
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I have not tried that method as I want twrp, but that is the recommended approach.
I know things have changed with twrp, but it's not that hard once you get used to it. You just have to remember that your phone will switch active slots every time it gets an update or you flash an ota (for example, to go back to stock), so twrp, etc, have to be installed on the other slot before you boot to it. Once you get comfortable with that idea, the rest of it is pretty easy.

Well, I am glad to read this post. Its always interesting how things can be slightly different in every phone manufacturer's setup.
After my lady Huawei device (Honor 6x), I did not want to have to deal with their style of... Control over their devices.
And things seem much easier here, while also being a little confusing right now. I don't fully get the slot a/b stuff yet but it sounds like it's a system to ensure stability on the phone in cases where the newest update could install incorrectly the alternative slot has a backup to ensure the device will function.
Sorta sounds like the dual bios setup on some motherboards. It's good!
Right, so to summarise to ensure I got it right:
1) Downloaded large (1gb+) ota zip from one of these threads, official twrp recovery installing zip, new version of magisk recovery installing zip
2) in recovery install all 3 of those zips in that listed order
3) reboot to recovery again to ensure twrp is still installed
4) profit
Which twrp thread should I take the zip from? There are a few different threads. I shouldn't care about the fastboot version when I already have twrp installed, right?
Either way, it can be much easier than what I had to do on Huawei phones. (currently the easiest phone I used for customisation like this was Nexus 4, but gladly OP6 is getting pretty close to that same level).
Sent from my OnePlus 6 using XDA Labs

You're best off downloading from the official twrp site. If you already have it installed, no need to use the fastboot boot method. You should to reboot to recovery in between flashing twrp and magisk to be sure magisk gets installed on the active slot.

Swatto86 said:
When you install OTA via system settings and reboot, the slot switches to the inactive one (where the OTA installed to) and boots. This means the previous slot (prior to reboot) still has TWRP installed.
You are probably going direct to recovery after the OTA install without doing a full reboot first.
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Question, more of a scenario really. So if I'm on slot A and have TWRP and Magisk installed, would it be alright to just do a local update and reboot, giving me a perfectly clean install in slot B? Does it work that way? Thanks!
I'm actually using a 6t, but worst case scenario I just use the MSM Download tool, still I wanna get the hang of these confusing A/B devices.

Unable to Root/Flash TWRP on OnePlus 7 Pro

Greetings to anyone that may see this - I am new to the android root thingy, so I apologize in advance if I have a stupid question. I have only rooted an old tablet with Kingoroot which used SuperSU as the root manager. First off, I want to address TWRP. What is the difference between the OP7Pro "guacamole" and "guacamoleb" (the "b" is very important and intentional.) I tried the regular guacamole image, but the phone didn't seem to want to boot the image. I am going to try guacamoleb. If I flash TWRP, can I boot my device normally? Some sources say yes some no. Thanks for all your help in advance!

UrAverageNerd said:
First off, I want to address TWRP. What is the difference between the OP7Pro "guacamole" and "guacamoleb" (the "b" is very important and intentional.)
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Haven't seen guacomoleb (different code name to me implies a different device, but I'm not sure in this case). Just use the file from the dev's TWRP thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...nt/recovery-unofficial-twrp-recovery-t3931322
Unofficial version -75 is the current version. Use the version ( Q versus Pie) for your current Android/OOS version. Might be obvious, but some folks have asked about that.
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If I flash TWRP, can I boot my device normally? Some sources say yes some no. Thanks for all your help in advance!
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Per the developer in his thread I linked above, for a stock device, if you flash TWRP, you should root (with Magisk) or the phone might not boot. Some folks have reported that they can flash TWRP and not Magisk and still boot. But there is not point in risking it, since your intent is to root anyway. Fastboot boot TWRP img, then flash TWRP installer zip, and just flash Magisk right away at the same time, then reboot. It's pretty easy.
Also note that installing TWRP is somewhat optional. You can just fastboot boot TWRP img, then flash Magisk to root. It is a matter of preference whether to have TWRP installed or not, and folks are pretty split on this. My opinion, TWRP installed (while not required) does give some potentially useful features if things ever go wrong. I personally don't see much advantage to not installing TWRP, but just my opinion.

Hi there. I ran into similar problems when I was a Root noobie (which I still am). Try the All In One Tool that can be found in this forum. That will help you flash TWRP. It got me there when I was struggling to Flash TWRP.

redpoint73 said:
Haven't seen guacomoleb (different code name to me implies a different device, but I'm not sure in this case). Just use the file from the dev's TWRP thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...nt/recovery-unofficial-twrp-recovery-t3931322
Unofficial version -75 is the current version. Use the version ( Q versus Pie) for your current Android/OOS version. Might be obvious, but some folks have asked about that.
Per the developer in his thread I linked above, for a stock device, if you flash TWRP, you should root (with Magisk) or the phone might not boot. Some folks have reported that they can flash TWRP and not Magisk and still boot. But there is not point in risking it, since your intent is to root anyway. Fastboot boot TWRP img, then flash TWRP installer zip, and just flash Magisk right away at the same time, then reboot. It's pretty easy.
Also note that installing TWRP is somewhat optional. You can just fastboot boot TWRP img, then flash Magisk to root. It is a matter of preference whether to have TWRP installed or not, and folks are pretty split on this. My opinion, TWRP installed (while not required) does give some potentially useful features if things ever go wrong. I personally don't see much advantage to not installing TWRP, but just my opinion.
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Thanks for your help. Apparently the Android Q unofficial build -75 doesn't have any mirrors. It's still searching. I like using TWRP because it's convenient if I wan't to flash something else without a PC or Mac.:laugh:

UrAverageNerd said:
Apparently the Android Q unofficial build -75 doesn't have any mirrors. It's still searching.
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Something wrong with the "main" download link (androidfilehost)?

UrAverageNerd said:
Greetings to anyone that may see this - I am new to the android root thingy, so I apologize in advance if I have a stupid question. I have only rooted an old tablet with Kingoroot which used SuperSU as the root manager. First off, I want to address TWRP. What is the difference between the OP7Pro "guacamole" and "guacamoleb" (the "b" is very important and intentional.) I tried the regular guacamole image, but the phone didn't seem to want to boot the image. I am going to try guacamoleb. If I flash TWRP, can I boot my device normally? Some sources say yes some no. Thanks for all your help in advance!
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Use adb & fastboot via powershell
Get the adb files in a folder
Copy the twrp.img to the adb folder and on phone /storage/emulated/0/
Get a copy of the twrp installer on your phone anywhere works
Open adb folder
Hold shift and right click a empty space
Open powershell & type
Adb boot bootloader
Fastboot boot twrp.img (you can drag and drop the file into powershell if your lazy like me)
Flash the twrp installer on your phone
Done?
Reboot and go back into recovery to see if it works
Tip for updates:
After you get the update
Flash via twrp
Then flash twrp (so you don't need your computer)
Flash magisk if you want superuser
Reboot
Reboot recovery
Flash magisk again (seems it takes two flashes)
None of the tools work for my devices anymore just powershell
All in one doesn't read my fastboot
Cmd has a remote error after attempting to boot it.

UrAverageNerd said:
First off, I want to address TWRP. What is the difference between the OP7Pro "guacamole" and "guacamoleb" (the "b" is very important and intentional.)
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Just noticed that the TWRP "guacomoleb" is the "unified" version that works with both the OnePlus 7 and the 7 Pro. Shouldn't make a difference whether you use the "unified" version or the 7 Pro specific TWRP.