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Im using a cooked version that I made myself based on Da_G's 6.5 Kitchen on my fuze. My RAM usage goes past 40% when I first start my phone, and I was just wondering whether or not RAM usage affects battery life, because if it does then ill try to fix the RAM problem.
RAM usage hardly affects battery life.. you should see to it that your steady state is on 0% CPU usage tho
Hi,
I recently got the Sensation XE and have had it for a week or two now. in the last couple of days, my RAM usage suddenly shot up (going from averaging 200mb free to less than 100mb free). I haven't installed anything recently so there isn't a new application eating it up.
I've read that task killers aren't neccessary and also less free ram reported should mean better performance. firstly, task killers haven't done crap and i have less ram yet its running far slower than when i first got it.
Any advice?
I have the same issue on my SXL. I have also posted a question (here is the link in case I get anything back you may be able to use) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488516
So even dual cores have this issue. How annoying, I was thinking of getting rid and getting an SE What's a good phone these days? They all seem to be going backwards...
I've notice that ram usage on ics seems to be a bit higher than on gb, and battery life is just a tad bit worse, but not by too much. I have debloated as much as I could and kept minimal syncing, and running on mhx's super lite rom ATM. I still get more ram usage than on gb doing simple tasks. I'm just curious if lower ram usage actually contributes to battery battery life. Thanks!
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from what I understand about destop power usage, it doesnt matter how much you are using, but how many dimms you have. im sure our phone only has one 1gb dimm, using like 1-1.5v ish. which is pretty low on the power drain meter.
I would think with the LCD screen being by far the largest contributor to battery use, ram use would not be a very large contributing factor to battery savings. It will depend on how you use your phone though.
slotstik04 said:
I've notice that ram usage on ics seems to be a bit higher than on gb, and battery life is just a tad bit worse, but not by too much. I have debloated as much as I could and kept minimal syncing, and running on mhx's super lite rom ATM. I still get more ram usage than on gb doing simple tasks. I'm just curious if lower ram usage actually contributes to battery battery life. Thanks!
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Ram usage absolutely does not negatively impact your battery life. If anything increased ram usage will help battery life. If you reload an app that is in your ram, it takes much less computing power than to reload it from scratch, which is why task killers are worthless because not only do they deprive you of this ability, they also use extra processing power to remove the task from ram. You have ram for a reason right? This is the reason you want your system to use your ram as efficiently as possible, which means you want it full.
If you haven't already, I'd recommend trying the 2100 mah extended battery for the Galaxy Nexus. I put it in my Skyrocket, and it works great.
Picked it up on sale for around $25 if memory serves about 2 weeks ago. Edit: removed portion of post regarding label removal and battery case sizing adjustment due to safety concerns from fellow members.
pls4ms said:
If you haven't already, I'd recommend trying the 2100 mah extended battery for the Galaxy Nexus. I put it in my Skyrocket, and it works great.
Picked it up on sale for around $25 if memory serves about 2 weeks ago. Took home, heated up label with a hairdrier and removed, then used dremel tool to grind down a little of the plastic corners. This helped the battery cover fit. Some folks had it fit fine without modification, but I did this before the instal (as folks talked about in another thread), just to be safe. Good luck.
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Just to be safe?? It's not safe at all to dremel a battery
if you want your phone to run smoothly, give it as much ram as you can! Android does an excellent job of managing ram.
Think about it like this. Android thinks of unused ram as "wasted ram". That's why task killers are no good my suggestion is to not worry about ram and leave it be. What I do to that really helps to save battery is to underclock the processor to about 1200mhz or 1000. My phone runs just as smooth as it did at 1500 no lag at all even when playing games like angry birds. And while you may not be able to overclock a stock kernal you can always underclock it
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cdshepherd said:
if you want your phone to run smoothly, give it as much ram as you can! Android does an excellent job of managing ram.
Think about it like this. Android thinks of unused ram as "wasted ram". That's why task killers are no good my suggestion is to not worry about ram and leave it be. What I do to that really helps to save battery is to underclock the processor to about 1200mhz or 1000. My phone runs just as smooth as it did at 1500 no lag at all even when playing games like angry birds. And while you may not be able to overclock a stock kernal you can always underclock it
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+1
I always UC and UV and don't kill anything
Right guys we've got 3gbs of ram woawa. I mean that's f.ING great right ..? Ermm would be if this "unbloated" phone wasn't using 75 percent of it straight out of the box that's 2gbs
. I would imagen the reason our phones are getting extremely hot is that samsung are over loading the basics and this resulting in any extras we download from play store or where ever can't use the ram so where pushING it to the maximum. Im not massively knoelagable on ram my Knole expands to. It determind the speed of data gets handled and it's random access memory well my home pc only has 2 and it runs quite quickly
. My s4 had 2 and it was as fast as this s6. And faster once I rooted it and removed bloat wear but I'm not rooting this for at least six months so any one got any tips on keeping the ram at about 60 percent and keeping my phone from basily being a radiator
#1 Google Translate didn't help so I guess I understood 2% of your text.
#2 Package Disabler Pro on Google Play. Buy and use.
#3 Ever opened Task Manager on Windows OS and checked % ram used? No? Good.
#4 What apps are running when your phone gets extremely hot? Give us GSAM screenshots but hey... that's all about the battery again, not ram...
You're an idiot. RAM being fully used isn't a problem on Linux.
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2fb of 3gb = 67% Already better
benjiboythelad said:
Right guys we've got 3gbs of ram woawa. I mean that's f.ING great right ..? Ermm would be if this "unbloated" phone wasn't using 75 percent of it straight out of the box that's 2gbs
. I would imagen the reason our phones are getting extremely hot is that samsung are over loading the basics and this resulting in any extras we download from play store or where ever can't use the ram so where pushING it to the maximum. Im not massively knoelagable on ram my Knole expands to. It determind the speed of data gets handled and it's random access memory well my home pc only has 2 and it runs quite quickly
. My s4 had 2 and it was as fast as this s6. And faster once I rooted it and removed bloat wear but I'm not rooting this for at least six months so any one got any tips on keeping the ram at about 60 percent and keeping my phone from basily being a radiator
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RAM is there to be used, so if 75% are used, it means that 3GB was a good choice and not wasted. Filled up RAM looks bad and wrong, but it's completely fine unless you run out of it. If you don't, then it doesn't matter, even if 75% are filled up.
The processor is the part that heats up, though a 14nm SoC shouldn't and in fact doesn't heat up too bad, unless you are gaming or doing other heavy tasks. Heat is present on all powerful phones.
As others pointed out, battery logs may help if a rogue app is running and wasting loads of resources, but it would be a start if you defined heat. Actual overheating (data please) or the occasional warm back?
Some of you need to research how Android uses RAM. Here's a good place to start:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
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#1 Google Translate didn't help so I guess I understood 2% of your text.
#2 Package Disabler Pro on Google Play. Buy and use.
#3 Ever opened Task Manager on Windows OS and checked % ram used? No? Good.
#4 What apps are running when your phone gets extremely hot? Give us GSAM screenshots but hey... that's all about the battery again, not ram...
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And your a massive prick English . And I for every one else who seems to think that my phone over heating isn't bad it's over 67c I've pin pointed it down to where it's bellow 20% of battery and the let's put it like this .. more apps open more ram used more proccecer speed require the more my phone slows down yes your ****ing dim wits an Linux and Android ram works the ****ing same as a windows other wise it would be cool something different .
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And your a massive prick English . And I for every one else who seems to think that my phone over heating isn't bad it's over 67c I've pin pointed it down to where it's bellow 20% of battery and the let's put it like this .. more apps open more ram used more proccecer speed require the more my phone slows down yes your ****ing dim wits an Linux and Android ram works the ****ing same as a windows other wise it would be cool something different .
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Nope. Its not like that, read first what other two guys wrote about RAM consumption. Load GSAM and post screenshots what is heating & draining your battery. Then we can discuss more about your overheating problems.
btw: It's You're and not Youre.
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And your a massive prick English . And I for every one else who seems to think that my phone over heating isn't bad it's over 67c I've pin pointed it down to where it's bellow 20% of battery and the let's put it like this .. more apps open more ram used more proccecer speed require the more my phone slows down yes your ****ing dim wits an Linux and Android ram works the ****ing same as a windows other wise it would be cool something different .
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Mine sits on 80% or more used and my phone does not even get hot. Having full RAM does not overheat or slow down your phone. All that pr0n you're loading onto it is probably slowing it down
Hi Community and Falcon owners!
This are my impressions on the battery life we (I suppose) are getting from our beloved device.
Is getting worse, from update to update, or at least for me.
My falcon is 1,5year old, the first configuration i got was:
ROM: Dirty Unicorns 4.4 (KK)
Kernel: Xperience
the results were F*****g awesome
I got DT2W + pocket mode, perfect RAM management (keeping for hours and hours and hours in [perfect] background all my apps withtout ANY reload, nor browser tabs), always smooth, perfect multitasking and about 2/2.5days of battery life with just 2 cores with CPUMAX at 787, I'm not joking.
Now i have:
ROM: OrionOS 2.2 6.0.1 MM
Kernel: HurtSky Hybrid Exp 16
and with the same usage and even more hibernated apps then before (Greenify) i get a not-so-perfectly-working DT2W + pocket mode, kinda of limited RAM performances compared to the old KK configuration (and browser tabs keeps reloading after some hours of suspended device), under intense CPU and/or read/write operations the UI became a lilttle laggy and unresponsive (same thing for other 2 MM ROM I tryed), more than 5 apps can't be kept in perfect background and with a total amount of 20-24h of battery life with 2 cores at CPUMAX 998.
Since the upgrade to Lollipop, I'm really disappointed.
What is going on?
HawkeyeWPR said:
Hi Community and Falcon owners!
This are my impressions on the battery life we (I suppose) are getting from our beloved device.
Is getting worse, from update to update, or at least for me.
My falcon is 1,5year old, the first configuration i got was:
ROM: Dirty Unicorns 4.4 (KK)
Kernel: Xperience
the results were F*****g awesome
I got DT2W + pocket mode, perfect RAM management (keeping for hours and hours and hours in [perfect] background all my apps withtout ANY reload, nor browser tabs), always smooth, perfect multitasking and about 2/2.5days of battery life with just 2 cores with CPUMAX at 787, I'm not joking.
Now i have:
ROM: OrionOS 2.2 6.0.1 MM
Kernel: HurtSky Hybrid Exp 16
and with the same usage and even more hibernated apps then before (Greenify) i get a not-so-perfectly-working DT2W + pocket mode, kinda of limited RAM performances compared to the old KK configuration (and browser tabs keeps reloading after some hours of suspended device), under intense CPU and/or read/write operations the UI became a lilttle laggy and unresponsive (same thing for other 2 MM ROM I tryed), more than 5 apps can't be kept in perfect background and with a total amount of 20-24h of battery life with 2 cores at CPUMAX 998.
Since the upgrade to Lollipop, I'm really disappointed.
What is going on?
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It is truth, in my experience ( start from Samsung Spica Android 1.6 to moto g custom 6.0) gingerbread 2.3 is the fastest one (Motorola Defy single core 512 MB RAM), Spica have a custom ROM with below 100 MB size and our motog have custom ROM with above 350 MB size without gapps. Facility, functions, file size etc are increasing with Android versions. It need more juice from the battery, more RAM and more CPU.
512 MB RAM Defy left around 250 MB free RAM after reboot, Our moto g with 1gb ram also have the same amount of RAM available after reboot.
Application size and it's functions are also increasing from version to version. UCbrowser was 3mb in size initially when I am using, it is now around 11 MB in size.
Also your battery is getting old and it may be another reason.
Is marketing! The smartphone have to be more slow, and the battery have to decrease is power. We on xda say no to marketing rules. You can simply install the rom that you prefer!
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Battery consumption is increasing on every Android version since KitKat.
Marshmallow improved battery life scenario with Doze but it still doesn't match with KK.
IMO, Lollipop was the worst Android version regarding battery life.
Moreover, you said yourself that phone is about 2.5 years old. I'm sure battery has competed it's charge and discharge cycles.
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my moto g actually running orion + zero byte kernel i have everything turn off location account syc and dimmer to the lowest not on auto and i get 8 hours sot just browsing internet i have airplane on and wifi my kernel is tweak for battery life and i use mod so my phone runs cool most time better that way using less battery i try kitkat and to me it wasnt better at all the most i got was 4 hours straight on screen i like orion rom because you have moto doze included plus marshmallow doze and i use force doze and wow im impress i never played with wakelock neither all you need is good kernel and tweaks to get sot :good: