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Has there been any announcement on the ability to install apps on the external media on the TF? It seems strange that this is possible for Android 2.2, but not 3.0.
I think this is mostly due to the fluid state of the partitions of the operating system in 3.0 On 2.x the /system and /data are set sizes so to free up some some space for more apps. On 3.x if more space is needed, it alloactes more space so app2sd is not needed
I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps
worthless microsd
i bought the 16gb version and a 32gb microsd card thinking it would be a cheaper way to have more storage. Instead it seems the external storage doesn't serve much of a purpose leaving me a little disappointed. I assumed Android was already supporting multiple storage locations but I guess that was removed in 3.0. Ideally I would love to be able to use Gallery to sync my picasa albums but if I did that I would end up with no free space on the main drive.
Gallery and most apps that came installed on the transformer have no problem scanning the microsd. Also more and more apps are letting you manually choose where you can have the information located (moboplayer, titanium backup). I hooked up a 1tb external drive with 600 Gb of music and movies and had no problem playing any of them. But boy did that suck the battery down quick.
I guess it depends on what your trying to do, if nothing else send an email to the developer and ask them if they could add support for additional locations
I know some custom ROMs for other tablets have offered optional methods for changing the mount points of internal and external storage. For example, setting the external card to mount at /sdcard and leaving internal storage for /Removable/microSD. I asked about this in dev forum last week but no takers.
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With 3.0 google finally got smart. Apps are installed to your internal memory the same as everything else. So you have 16/32GB for apps and everything else, and then you have your SD card in addition to that.
So having all that internal memory makes Apps2SD useless.
You'll see froyo apps2sd in ice cream sandwich most likely for older devices most likely, but in honeycomb it's gone.
Wait what? So does this mean you cannot install apps you download from the market on the microsd?
stcardinal said:
Wait what? So does this mean you cannot install apps you download from the market on the microsd?
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No you cannot - though why would you need to? Unlike earlier versions of Android, you don't have a fixed partition size to install apps to, so A2SD is largely pointless (in my opinion anyway - your mileage may vary!).
Regards,
Dave
lordgodgeneral said:
Gallery and most apps that came installed on the transformer have no problem scanning the microsd. Also more and more apps are letting you manually choose where you can have the information located (moboplayer, titanium backup). I hooked up a 1tb external drive with 600 Gb of music and movies and had no problem playing any of them. But boy did that suck the battery down quick.
I guess it depends on what your trying to do, if nothing else send an email to the developer and ask them if they could add support for additional locations
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With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
Worst case scenario: if you have root, you could replace the directory Gallery uses for the Offline photos with a symlink to a directory on the (micro)SD Card. You might need to put a ".nomedia" file in that directory (to keep the media scanner from indexing those files and thinking they should /also/ be in the gallery), but it'll work long as you leave the sdcard in whenever Gallery is open.
magicpork said:
I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps
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That's great! I always hated worrying about whether something was installed on the current SD card.
magicpork said:
I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps
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(I'm Not having a go at the above poster).
Thats all well and good but if you use Googlemaps (Navigation) with the offline maps ala Htc Desire and others You can quickly use several gig of space.
add to that Copilot maps 2.5Gb or Aura 2.2Gb and that 16Gb dosn't seem so big, lol..
I bought a 32Gb SD Card for the Dock and now know that its a waste of time as you have to manually open any music or films as they dont appear in the Gallery etc.
I also bought a 32Gb Micro SD Card for the tablet which is where I want to put Downloads and the Gallery Also the Navigation Maps. But the apps wont see the data so again why have them.
So all in all extra storage appears to be a waste of time.
Hopefully some of the Guru's here can sort this out as Its crazy to have all this available space and not be able to use it.
foxmeister said:
No you cannot - though why would you need to? Unlike earlier versions of Android, you don't have a fixed partition size to install apps to, so A2SD is largely pointless (in my opinion anyway - your mileage may vary!).
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Dave
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640kb should be enough for anybody.
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AlexTheStampede said:
640kb should be enough for anybody.
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It was, at the time!
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Dave
jjal09 said:
With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
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Lordgodgeneral already answered this when you brought it up the first time, but it is simple to transfer any of your media files over to the SD card. Yes when you first download your pics they will be stored on internal memory, but you can manually move them over to the sd card and they will still be recognized by the transformer. I believe the stock file manager will work for this, but I personally use root explorer.
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With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
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That has more to do with the app itself. If an app lets you set where it saves, it'll work.
It may be possible to have all the internal storage dedicated to apps (/data) and point /sdcard to the removable micro SD card with some fstab modifications. I'll try this tonight and see what happens.
HD GAMES????
ok guys i see last post was on june but do you realise that the new HD games coming out are about nearly 1 g of space some? there must be a freaking way to install apps or games on SD card omfg wy do i want extenral storage to keep mi fotos and music? this is bull**** guys pls lets get some way to have our games or programs that occupie more than 700mb out of internal memory there must be some way... pls scratch your brain ask friends ask parents ask teachers this is very serious....
Best regards... TF user... rooted ofcourse
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ok guys i see last post was on june but do you realise that the new HD games coming out are about nearly 1 g of space some? there must be a freaking way to install apps or games on SD card omfg wy do i want extenral storage to keep mi fotos and music? this is bull**** guys pls lets get some way to have our games or programs that occupie more than 700mb out of internal memory there must be some way... pls scratch your brain ask friends ask parents ask teachers this is very serious....
Best regards... TF user... rooted ofcourse
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Ithink its better to loose the games if somthing damages your internal storage. I have the 32 gb Transformer and thats more than enough for games. You can not play 30 games at the same time and if you bakup your game and gamedata you can uninstal a game and install it again if you whant to play it.
I dont understand why people always ask for intstall something on Micro SD card. Intrenal storage is much faster than a card.
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in Atrix 2 , what is the best value in your phone+Class X card ?
I've tested no matter I set it to 4MB , 3MB or 2MB , the speed is the same
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in case of 4MB and 3MB , there are some lags after about 100MB copies but it's continuously smooth if I set it to 2MB.
My card is Class 10 32GB.
Don't you experience missing apps or photos from your sd card in your Atrix 2?
I tried 2MB before, but so no difference, I am running at the stock cache setting now with no (or very minimal) performance hit. I think increasing the cache really makes a difference when you start running apps and caches (dalvic and system cache) from the SDCard. We really don't need to do that since we have enough space on the internal (and faster) memory. I suggest running 100% of your apps on your internal memory, 4GB is plenty of space for apps.
The stock values will do just fine for accessing media (music, videos, pics) and files from your SDCard. Your mileage may vary, this is based on my experience and usage, yours could be different.
I have a 32GB class 4, and I do not loose pics or apps (none are installed on the card).
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in Atrix 2 , what is the best value in your phone+Class X card ?
I've tested no matter I set it to 4MB , 3MB or 2MB , the speed is the same
BUT
in case of 4MB and 3MB , there are some lags after about 100MB copies but it's continuously smooth if I set it to 2MB.
My card is Class 10 32GB.
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Be careful, several of us have had issues with cards that are higher than class 6 with the Atrix 2. People have lost pictures, mp3s, etc. We are thinking that these higher class cards are just not compatible at this time.
Sharpshooterrr said:
Don't you experience missing apps or photos from your sd card in your Atrix 2?
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no matter how much cache I set, it does lose some files . I would say it's the same issue as the old old milestone.... they did improve nothing in these 2 years...
lilhaiti said:
We really don't need to do that since we have enough space on the internal (and faster) memory. I suggest running 100% of your apps on your internal memory, 4GB is plenty of space for apps.
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I really don't get this - at least when it comes to games. Recent Gameloft games consume a lot of storage, some exceeding over 1GB. So you're basically down to 3 quarters of your internal storage with just one app installed.
I really don't see that as enough. Or am I missing something here.
By the way, I'm still stuck on my iPhone 4. Owned an Android device before but sold it after 2 weeks. Looking to give Android another chance.
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mathk said:
no matter how much cache I set, it does lose some files . I would say it's the same issue as the old old milestone.... they did improve nothing in these 2 years...
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Well, following what jimbridgman said, your Class 10 card seems to be the culprit.
WOW!!! A game over 1GB? Which one. I have over 140 apps installed on my phone (most of them games) and I have PLENTY of space available (3.12GB to be exact). So even if I did install a game that was 1GB, I would have plenty of room for a lot more "regular" sized apps. Now, a lot of games do save additional files on the SDCard; although large, I have not seen an additional game download over 1GB. If I am missing something please enlighten me.
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WOW!!! A game over 1GB? Which one. I have over 140 apps installed on my phone (most of them games) and I have PLENTY of space available (3.12GB to be exact). So even if I did install a game that was 1GB, I would have plenty of room for a lot more "regular" sized apps. Now, a lot of games do save additional files on the SDCard; although large, I have not seen an additional game download over 1GB. If I am missing something please enlighten me.
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The gameloft HD games can reach close to that size to see them though...need to edit ur build.prop its explained in a different post so look it up if interested
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lilhaiti said:
Now, a lot of games do save additional files on the SDCard
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Those games that do save additional files on the SD card, do they go missing when you reboot your phone?
About games that eat up a lot of storage, Backstab HD requires about 650mb, I think. Dungeon Defenders 2 needs over 600mb. Modern Combat 3 takes around 900mb.
Sharpshooterrr said:
I really don't get this - at least when it comes to games. Recent Gameloft games consume a lot of storage, some exceeding over 1GB. So you're basically down to 3 quarters of your internal storage with just one app installed.
I really don't see that as enough. Or am I missing something here.
By the way, I'm still stuck on my iPhone 4. Owned an Android device before but sold it after 2 weeks. Looking to give Android another chance.
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Well, following what jimbridgman said, your Class 10 card seems to be the culprit.
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I do think the cause is the firmware but not the class 10 card . the card is just a ... trigger... You just can't say the knife as the killer , right ?
(P.S. my milestone didn't have such problem after flashing it to CM7...atrix 2... um .... we need to wait)
OK...to clarify. The actual install files and caches are the only things that can be saved in internal memory. The large "additional data" downloads can only be stored on the SDCard. The install files usually get up to around 50MB (sometimes a little more, most times a lot less). The addition download files can get very large (sometimes over 1GB).
To further clarify, the 4GB of internal storage is plenty space for plenty of install files caches. The problem becomes real if you install a game with a large additional download on a phone with the small stock SDCard (2GB). If you install a game that has 1GB of additional downloads you are down to less that half of the available space.
The additional downloads don't seem to be effected by the disappearing problem.
My note is only the 16gb version and im running out of space . How can i transfer my apps to the sd card, if i go to settings apps , there is no option to trasfer to the sd card ?
Lol suppose to be running out internal storage and not disc space.
Root and use titanium backup, I believe that will work.
Or get rid of apps you really don't need...
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How can u fill 16gb of apps only
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>Delete your pr0n.
>????
>profit
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Games will fill up space fast..nova3 2gb by itself
mywingtophone said:
My note is only the 16gb version and im running out of space . How can i transfer my apps to the sd card, if i go to settings apps , there is no option to trasfer to the sd card ?
Lol suppose to be running out internal storage and not disc space.
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Return it and get a 32 gb version. Dont be cheap.
Also transfer all your non app data files to your sdcard. Music, movies, backups, photos all can live on sdcard.
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mywingtophone said:
My note is only the 16gb version and im running out of space . How can i transfer my apps to the sd card, if i go to settings apps , there is no option to trasfer to the sd card ?
Lol suppose to be running out internal storage and not disc space.
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Use the apps:
App 2 SD
GL to SD
The first one moves apps that can be stored on your sd to be moved. The second one takes the massive downloads needed by the gigantic games and puts those downloads on your external sd instead of using up your system memory. Those apps saved me several gigs of space!
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What's the point of deciding on the 16GB then complaining about running out of space?
mywingtophone said:
My note is only the 16gb version and im running out of space . How can i transfer my apps to the sd card, if i go to settings apps , there is no option to trasfer to the sd card ?
Lol suppose to be running out internal storage and not disc space.
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use Root Explorer, works well
Open Settings-->Applications-->Choose All tab--> Select any large application --> Move to SD Card
But you have to do one by one though...
use this tool DirectoryBind. move all ur unmovable games data to ur sd card. if will take some time to learn how to use but once u learn it u will find it easy and love this tool!
link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
mi7chy said:
What's the point of deciding on the 16GB then complaining about running out of space?
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I do find it a mystery why just for a short term fix owners are purchasing the 16GB model when shortly after the same will then be complaining of not enough space.
Percentage wise apps are getting bigger quicker than the hardware is increasing.
It's the sole reason why I never went for the Nexus 7.
htainlin said:
Open Settings-->Applications-->Choose All tab--> Select any large application --> Move to SD Card
But you have to do one by one though...
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That doesn't work with ICS...
If you go into apps then open my files i have found that you can point/hold and drag from internal sd to extsd.
I am also looking for a way to change the designation of installed apps and where items are automatically saved to.
I havent attempted to root yet.
Hope this helps
confus-ed said:
If you go into apps then open my files i have found that you can point/hold and drag from internal sd to extsd.
I am also looking for a way to change the designation of installed apps and where items are automatically saved to.
I havent attempted to root yet.
Hope this helps
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Could you be a little more specific? When you say go into apps what do you mean? Also how do you open my files?
Beards said:
I do find it a mystery why just for a short term fix owners are purchasing the 16GB model when shortly after the same will then be complaining of not enough space.
Percentage wise apps are getting bigger quicker than the hardware is increasing.
It's the sole reason why I never went for the Nexus 7.
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Because the 32gb version isn't available here in Oz yet... If they released the 32gb version with the 16gb version they would have no or minimal sale of the 16gb version. REALLY bites...:crying:
donec said:
Could you be a little more specific? When you say go into apps what do you mean? Also how do you open my files?
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Located at the top right of the screen is an icon that resembles a rubix cube, touch that and it will take you to the applications part of the Note. Different than the home screens.
Located in the apps pages is a folder labled my files, touch that and it will open in a file tree manner. At this point you can touch and drag into the extsd folder.
You can also connet to your puter and launch kies and check the box to make the extsd card the default save.
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Located at the top right of the screen is an icon that resembles a rubix cube, touch that and it will take you to the applications part of the Note. Different than the home screens.
Located in the apps pages is a folder labled my files, touch that and it will open in a file tree manner. At this point you can touch and drag into the extsd folder.
You can also connet to your puter and launch kies and check the box to make the extsd card the default save.
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Thanks! I was doing that with pictures and music, never occurred to try apps, i thought ics didn't allow it. There were some apps i couldn't move but did move some, seems too easy but it worked
Using Kies to copy data files (not the apps) to the Note will also make them smaller and save space. I remember copying some using the windows browser and they were converted (made smaller) IF you copy first to the Note then move them to the Extsd. There may be even more ways to save space with transferring. Photos for example that don't need to be 2-5 mb each could be shrunk with a photo editor on your desktop, then transferred to the Note.
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Thanks! I was doing that with pictures and music, never occurred to try apps, i thought ics didn't allow it. There were some apps i couldn't move but did move some, seems too easy but it worked
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No problem, if you discover anything that allows you to use the extsd as more of a partition rather than storage only keep us posted.:good:
Edit: I read in the note forums that someone had written a kernel to swap the priority of the storage, making the extsd64gb act as the internal storage and vice versa. I dont have the link for it
Would one of these/something like it work on my Moto G: 1 2 3
If I used a file explorer, could I move apps and music from Moto storage onto flash drive and still be able to play them? Is it convenient and easy to use, 8GB is barley enough for me. Thanks
@Banana4Life ..... Look at the "Meenova" USB OTG unit (there is a thread in Moto G accessory forum but i cannot remember exactly where) you can find it by Googling. It is similar to your 3rd example, that is it can be used in Moto G also as a normal size USB in Laptop or Desktop. I have one and I see it's advantage is that it comes without a fixed memory i.e. you can put any micro sd card that you want in it i.e. 4Gb, 8Gb, 16Gb, 32Gb, 64Gb etc. If I remember correctly it costs $15 plus shipping & handling. It is a Chinese firm but has an office and sales point in California.
I find it most useful for keeping a copy of "sdcard" and backups which in turn can be copied to my Laptop as extra insurance LOL. I also store movies on it and can play them directly onto my phone. One word of warning (which you probably know) do not be tempted to format with NTFS - Moto G wont read it and theres a chance you will soft brick.
It looks pretty nice, much smaller than my examples. Can you play apps off the micro sd card? I would mainly use it for apps and music. Is it easy to access the stuff you put on it as well, do you use ES file explorer?
@bana4Life ..... I can't give you a definite answer to whether you can run apps directly from the Meenova device all I can say on that is that it is quite easy to transfer apps from your phone onto the Meenova, the only trouble I find is that as soon as you select the app it immediately asks if you want to "install" it and this it does on your phone not on the device. I don't know whether using one of the apps which claims to be able to transfer apps to an external sd would be able to help you out but my own limited experience with such apps as "Apps to SD", "Move to SD", "App Manager" etc has not proved very helpful.
As far as music is concerned, same as videos or movies, it is simplicity itself ..... If you run your main app to play music or video then the app automatically searches for the music etc on both your phone storage and the usb storage and plays it fine.
My file manager of choice is "Root Explorer" (from the play store), I'm presuming that you are rooted - if not you can still use "Root Explorer" but you won't have the option to read/write files, only read them and you won't have the ability to see the hidden system files.
The Meenova shows up in your file system as ...../mnt/media_rw/usbdisk. I should have mentioned before that although I am rooted and have custom recovery installed I am running the stock 4.4.3 Rom and if you are running a custom Rom then much of what I have said may not apply.
I don't think I've been a lot of help to you, however good luck with whatever you try. By the way I think my remarks apply to all USB OTG storage devices not just Meenova. Yes I think the Meenova is the smallest such device on the market.
So with the app problem, you can move an app from phone to SD, but to play it you'll have to move it back onto the phone, then after using it move it back onto SD. Is that what you can do? Also, didn't know the main music app would search the SD, thought that you would have to use something like Es File Explorer to play music (which is what I use). I am also on stock 4.4.4
You have actually been helpful, went into detail and gave info :highfive: :highfive: :highfive:
@Banana4Life ..... Just a quick answer ..... When I talked about moving the app to the usb storage I was referring to the .apk ...... but when you click on it it will give you the option to "Install" which it then does on your phone so really you save nothing, the app is still installed on the phone! ..... As far as I'm concerned the only real use of usb storage is to store large amounts of data i.e. mp4 movies which would otherwise take up valuable phone memory. This applies equally to large numbers of music files.
The two apps I use for playing movies are (1) MX Player Pro and (2) Best Video Player. Both are on Play Store. Both will search for compatible video files to play on both the phone and the usb storage.
I'm not a huge music "fan" but I have my playlists which I play using the stock Google "Play Music" app (installed by default by ICS - Jelly Bean - KitKat) it's also on Play Store. This app will also search both the phone and usb storage for music files.
An apk file can be installed with out a connection right? So you can put multiple apk's on SD card, install one then uninstall it to install a different apk
@Banana4Life ..... I think we are beginning to talk about different things here LOL ..... If you download an app from the Play Store then nine times out of ten the .apk file will be downloaded to your phone in the ..../data/app.... folder - the associated "odex" file will probably be downloaded into your phone in the ..../system/app.... folder and any other associated data files will be downloaded to other phone folders ..... Now there maybe apps which will allow these files to be downloaded to your place of choice i.e. usb storage .... BUT I don't know of any apps which will do this.
You use the words ".... on SD card...." please remember the Moto G does not have an external SD card (unless of course you have the Moto E which has an external SD card) so when you use a File Manager and see the folder entitled "sdcard" this refers to the internal memory space NOT to an external card.
Yes you could swap installed apk's back and forth between usb storage and normal phone storage but it just seems to me a lot of work for not very much gain.
You say "....apk's can be installed without a connection" .... Not quite certain what you mean by that..... You don't need your phone connected to a PC by a cable ..... You can have your USB storage (Meenova) connected to your phone ...OR NOT ...... of course your phone will be connected to Play Store by WiFi, but that can't be what you mean
Yea, I am android pleb I get confused
In your 2nd reply you said apps such as App to SD were not very useful but your also said it's easy to transfer apps. By transferring apps you mean by the apk and you tried to use the App to SD to move the whole app not just the installer, but even though using App to SD it still requires you to install it on phone. Is it not possible to move the apk file for every app or do just some work? There are some tutorials saying how to make default download place an SD or how to move an app to SD.
Maybe I don't understand what an apk is? Running an apk will install the app it's for right? Just a installer. And by the connection I mean as in once you have downloaded the apk file, running it won't require a WiFi connection?
And yea you said it comes up as /mnt/media_rw/USB disk in 2nd reply as well
Sorry if this doesnt make sense :/
@Banana4Life ..... I have never found the apps that transfer files i.e. such as "App2SD" any use for my purposes ..... BUT don't let that stop you trying them ..... you might find one that suits you and most of them are free in the Play Store.
Think of an .apk file as being an .exe file on windows ..... i.e. it installs and runs the App (Program) on your phone.
You don't need to have a WiFi connection to run 99% of apps on your phone. The obvious exceptions are online games which require an interaction between you and the Internet ..... Some simulations i.e. Flying - Motor Racing - Boat racing etc ..... Some games which require you to purchase in game upgrades ..... Games where you want to post "high scores" on a web site ..... etc.etc.etc.
I've ordered a black one today, hopefully wont take 20 days like they say it can
Im still not sure about the apps. You said it is quite easy to transfer apps from your phone onto the Meenova. What method did you do to transfer it? With the picture attached, does that option come up once SD card is put in? And just to be sure, once the app is on Meenova to use it I have to install it on phone first, then be able to put it back on Meenova right?
Thanks for recommending it and loads of information - I appreciate it :good::good::good::laugh::highfive: . If apps dont work, music is still important, I'll have to experiment
@bana4Life ..... Hope you are happy with it when it arrives. When I said in post#2 that there was a sales office/warehouse in California I was making the assumption that you were in the US because then they send it by US Postal Service and it takes two days ..... HOWEVER if you are outside US (which I now understand you are) then the postage is by Chinese Postal Service which is first class crap and will probably take nearly 20 days
Whenever I talk about moving files from one location to another (i.e. from phone to usb storage or the reverse) I am always talking about using File Manager "Root Explorer Pro".
When you have usb storage attached it shows up at ------ Settings>Storage>USB On the Go Storage Mounted...... In your screenshot (which I am guessing is using one of the "App2SD" apps) any reference to SD card refers to your internal memory.
It has just occurred to me that I have been assuming all along that you have the standard XT1032 or XT1033 Moto G (with NO external SD slot)..... WHEREAS if you have the Moto G LTE or the Moto E then you do have an external sd card slot.
Anyway I think I have gone as far as I can go with helping you out. I hope that your Meenova arrives quickly and that when you use it you will be happy with what it offers.
Yea I have XT1032. Its was dispatched today . Thanks again! :good: I'll try these App2SD apps, Im sure I'll manage somehow
Banana4Life said:
Yea I have XT1032. Its was dispatched today . Thanks again! :good: I'll try these App2SD apps, Im sure I'll manage somehow
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So your basically wanting it to be an extension of the internal storage. The only use it has is movies and music. Well basically anything but apps.
dethrat said:
So your basically wanting it to be an extension of the internal storage. The only use it has is movies and music. Well basically anything but apps.
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Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
Banana4Life said:
Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
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Yeah but .apk files have no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture.
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Banana4Life said:
Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
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And you've both misunderstood what the apps2sd apps are. They're completely irrelevant to what your trying to achieve.
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Yeah but .apk files have no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture.
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And you've both misunderstood what the apps2sd apps are. They're completely irrelevant to what your trying to achieve.
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What do you mean by "no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture", and also where have I been going wrong with the app2sd apps?
Banana4Life said:
What do you mean by "no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture", and also where have I been going wrong with the app2sd apps?
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Well that's what the apks are there for installing. If you download an apk and install it (click on it) the only use of keeping the downloaded apk is if you uninstall the app. You can then install it again.
Apps2sd apps are for phones with sdcard slots. You can partition the sdcard ( fat32 + ext4) and the second partition (ext4) acts as a extension of the /data (where installed app are). There's a lot more to those type of apps but I'm not going into it all. Irrelevant to usb-on-the-go (any storage going thru the micro USB port)
dethrat said:
Well that's what the apks are there for installing. If you download an apk and install it (click on it) the only use of keeping the downloaded apk is if you uninstall the app. You can then install it again.
Apps2sd apps are for phones with sdcard slots. You can partition the sdcard ( fat32 + ext4) and the second partition (ext4) acts as a extension of the /data (where installed app are). There's a lot more to those type of apps but I'm not going into it all. Irrelevant to usb-on-the-go (any storage going thru the micro USB port)
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So Im just thinking it will act like an actual sdcard slot, but it wont. So the apk thing will work?...
Banana4Life said:
So Im just thinking it will act like an actual sdcard slot, but it wont. So the apk thing will work?...
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No it doesn't act like a built-in SDslot. It acts like you've just plugged a memory stick into it.
Yeah copying apks will work it's just a file. Like copying any file. I just don't see what your going to gain from that. Your not going to be able to have more apps installed (ready to run).
The only practical use I've found for meenova is sharing pictures from my camera to my phone.
My internal storage is maxed out. I have already moved everything I possibly can to my SD card.
I am thinking about merging the internal and SD storage, but have read that will cause tablet efficiency to drop. I am not sure how much. I am on the last update from Samsung which is 5.0.2 but am willing to root and try another ROM. Open to suggestions.
Thanks.
*Comixology is a digital comic book reader and store. They only allow comics to be downloaded to internal storage. If the comics get moved, the app will not read them.
Most comics are getting HD upgrades which is compounding the issue. I can use the browser site, but comics load slow, and flipping through pages too fast seem to break the site and the comic page will hang up and not load. The app is much faster and has a better page preview system. Plus I travel a lot so the app is the best course for me. I am in the comic industry and need access to the comics quickly and efficiently. I also live abroad (not in the US where most of the comics are from) and move quite often so purchasing paper versions is often not an option.
Some comics can be downloaded as a PDF (I think all image and quite a few inidies). I have already downloaded them and moved them to the SD and deleted them from the internal, but still am maxed out on space.
Digital Dark Horse allows comics to be downloaded to external storage. But their app is not as nice to use as Comixology, so I would prefer to buy DH titles on comixology as well.
That is one of the problems with Android tablets and phones. Since some programs insist on loading their stuff on internal memory, when it gets full you are out of luck. They do that to keep you from copying their stuff and selling or giving it away.
treetopsranch said:
That is one of the problems with Android tablets and phones. Since some programs insist on loading their stuff on internal memory, when it gets full you are out of luck. They do that to keep you from copying their stuff and selling or giving it away.
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Thanks Treetopsranch. And yes, I am aware of the issue and the reasons for some time now. Unfortunately the consequences are just now catching up to me. Several messages a year to comixology always gets the same response. We are not implementing it at this time but will pass this on to the developers so they are aware of the issue.
Have you tried folder mount? I used it for making my music player think that my music is in the internal storage.
fvig2001 said:
Have you tried folder mount? I used it for making my music player think that my music is in the internal storage.
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I have not tried folder mount. You mean like this one?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en
Sounds promising. I am rooted so I can give this a try. Thanks for the suggestion and I will post my results.
edit: Can't add the app. Out of space....Gonna have to get to this after work today ?
Yes that one
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Yes that one
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Oogely Moogely! I transferred 13 gigs of comics to my external SD and they all open no problem at all. No lag or anything from what I can tell. I am now downloading the other 120 comics I had to remove to make space for new comics. (Some of those are single issue and some are graphic novels)
This is soooo helpful cause I am in the middle of making a comic and being able to access old "30 Days of Night" comics I had deleted is what I need when I get stuck or not sure how to go about something. Ahhh the access. And not using the horribly slow browser interface.
For anyone else: The data does not show on your internal storage when you check storage from your devices settings menu. It does show if you use something like DiskUsage. Diskusage also says it scanned %178 of my internal storage, so I guess it just adds what is not really there in the scan % but also says I have no free space, which I do. About %50 free space now.
EDIT: Just realized that comixology does not download comics in the background when the tablet goes to sleep. So you have to keep the screen on I guess. I couldn't find a setting for this in the app. Not sure if there is something under tablet settings.
If I find any drawback from this app I will post them here.
Well, how comes that you need them all at the same time? Why not download and delete them separately?
macmobile said:
Well, how comes that you need them all at the same time? Why not download and delete them separately?
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Well, I'm a comic artist and I often need reference or ideas from my peers. It helps me keep my art fresh and less stagnant. So when I remember how Tocchini colored an underwater scene in LOW, or how Samnee used a cool panel layout in Blackwidow, I can quickly reference what I need. The browser sucks for this because it is super slow and the page index is not as nice. Also, my tablet is my 2nd monitor so that is where the comics are the most useful.
Ah, I see, very interesting, but this seems to be a very specific use case most consumers don't depend on.
macmobile said:
Ah, I see, very interesting, but this seems to be a very specific use case most consumers don't depend on.
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I agree. But, re-downloading every time you want to read something, even for a consumer, is still ****ty. I am not sure what your point is though.
michaelsammler said:
I agree. But, re-downloading every time you want to read something, even for a consumer, is still ****ty. I am not sure what your point is though.
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Of course it would be better if you can choose yourself where to save your comics. But a normal use case looks like this: download on demand, read, delete, next.