Hello again. I know there is probably athread on here but I was having problems finding an exact one. Here is my question. i have a sprint Galaxy Note 4 from Sprint and the motherboard has crapped out. I can buy a working motherboard online cheap enough but it has a bad esn. My esn is fine on my phone. Is it possible or legal to put my good esn onto the working board with the bad esn so I can use my phone still? Again the board in the phone I own is bad with a good esn and the one I am looking at is a good powering board with a bad esn. Can I junk the bad esn on the good board and put my good esn on the working board then reinstall and use my phone still? I know laws are a bit vague on some points so i dont want to get banned but is this something that can be done as I own my good esn which I want to use still just need a board that powers and will not beusing the bad esn at all just the boards other parts more or less.Thanks
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Not looking to get this thread closed. Just looking for a straight forward explanation of the difference in methods that makes one legal and the other illegal.
Example
You bought two identical phones. One with a cracked screen but good esn, the other a good screen but bad esn. You bought both of these phones with the intent of being able to use the good screen phone with the good esn.
Method 1; Legal. Remove entire motherboards from both phones, and swap. So now the good screen phone has the good esn while the cracked phone has a bad esn.
Method 2; Illegal. (im going to be very vague so this doesnt gets closed). Use some sort of software that replaces esn's so your good screen phone now has the good esn.
Both these methods have the same end result, but what exactly is the difference that constitutes one being legal, and the other illegal?
StellaG said:
Not looking to get this thread closed. Just looking for a straight forward explanation of the difference in methods that makes one legal and the other illegal.
Example
You bought two identical phones. One with a cracked screen but good esn, the other a good screen but bad esn. You bought both of these phones with the intent of being able to use the good screen phone with the good esn.
Method 1; Legal. Remove entire motherboards from both phones, and swap. So now the good screen phone has the good esn while the cracked phone has a bad esn.
Method 2; Illegal. (im going to be very vague so this doesnt gets closed). Use some sort of software that replaces esn's so your good screen phone now has the good esn.
Both these methods have the same end result, but what exactly is the difference that constitutes one being legal, and the other illegal?
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Mostly when you change the mother board then all the parts has the same esn/IMEI. On the other while you right t software side the embedded hardware has a different number. Also so the law states that only the OEM can change the numbers on the software level.
In a nut shell, the moment the embedded date is altered is when it becomes illegal. Easy enough, Thanks.
Bought from Tesco, IMEI printed inside back cover is 8 digits away from the IMEI on the packaging! Obviously someone on the line muddled up the rear casings...
jfinnie said:
Bought from Tesco, IMEI printed inside back cover is 8 digits away from the IMEI on the packaging! Obviously someone on the line muddled up the rear casings...
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It's not unheard of, does happen.. Notify the place you bought it from, ask for a new receipt/invoice with the CORRECT IMEI for you phone. It doesn't really matter, but if you ever lose the phone or there is a dispute over who owns it you would need this to prove it's yours or get the phone blocked on the network (if it's stolen).
Obviously the one on the phone (in the about phone menu) is the real one.. I say this, because if some numpty has the phone with your back/box (IMEI) on, and they lose it, its possibly the dumb network people could block your phone by mistake.. No one wants to wake up to a blocked phone and a load of hassle..
helppme said:
It's not unheard of, does happen.. Notify the place you bought it from, ask for a new receipt/invoice with the CORRECT IMEI for you phone. It doesn't really matter, but if you ever lose the phone or there is a dispute over who owns it you would need this to prove it's yours or get the phone blocked on the network (if it's stolen).
Obviously the one on the phone (in the about phone menu) is the real one.. I say this, because if some numpty has the phone with your back/box (IMEI) on, and they lose it, its possibly the dumb network people could block your phone by mistake.. No one wants to wake up to a blocked phone and a load of hassle..
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I returned it - I imagine in a multiple like Tesco you have no chance of getting such an ammendment done to the receipt (heck, the receipt doesn't even list the IMEI). There is at least one scenario which could arise even more problematic than above - my unit is actually programmed with the SAME IMEI as the other device because someone scanned another phone back before programming the IMEI. Not worth the hassle really. Annoying though.
It does seem like the quality control is not brilliant - or at least the Tesco got a batch which were made at a time when the factory were pushed or similar. I work in high-end electronics design so I might be fussier than most - but each of 4 phones bought from Tesco within a 3 week period have had some fault or other. Admittedly not massive faults (though the IMEI mix up is perhaps fatal for your phone).
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I returned it - I imagine in a multiple like Tesco you have no chance of getting such an ammendment done to the receipt (heck, the receipt doesn't even list the IMEI). There is at least one scenario which could arise even more problematic than above - my unit is actually programmed with the SAME IMEI as the other device because someone scanned another phone back before programming the IMEI. Not worth the hassle really. Annoying though.
It does seem like the quality control is not brilliant - or at least the Tesco got a batch which were made at a time when the factory were pushed or similar. I work in high-end electronics design so I might be fussier than most - but each of 4 phones bought from Tesco within a 3 week period have had some fault or other. Admittedly not massive faults (though the IMEI mix up is perhaps fatal for your phone).
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I think it's Tesco at fault. They are given the units they then open them, insert their sim and assign IMEI etc. I think they are clumsy idiots who damage the backs, mess up the packaging etc. during this process. I'm very confident they are unskilled people and this is not being done in a 'clean' environment like where the phones are manufactured. The dead pixel is probably Motorola's fault.
Hello,
I am wanting to find a way to make LEGAL cash and have no intention in breaking any laws whatsoever.
Say you have a phone (Galaxy S4, iPhone 5, etc) and it has been blacklisted and cannot be used with another carrier. What if i buy an S4 (or whatever) with a good IMEI or ESN but its broken (screen cracked wifi dont work, etc) and apply the ESN or IMEI to the blacklisted phone? Is this illegal?
I read that it is illegal to do this if you are intentionally applying an ESN to a phone in order to spy on someone, etc. but the ESN i would use to make the black listed phone work would come from a completely destroyed phone (but has a good ESN) and would most likely be taken apart and sold piece by piece after applying the ESN/IMEI to the phone being repaired.
I also read that you can unlock a phone to be used internationally if it is blacklisted in the U.S. and it would work for carriers overseas but that may change soon.
Is there any way that doing this type of thing would NOT be illegal? Is there any websites with up to date information you guys can recommend so i can read up on this? Any recommendations (besides ebay) to find destroyed phones with verified good IMEI/ESN numbers would get great as well.
I would like to start a side business as i love tinkering with phones/computers/tablets etc. plus the extra money would be nice.
I need some extra cash and i know that i would most likely have to purchase an expensive program like CDMA Workshop or something like that in order to legally transfer IMEI/ESN information but i would like to start a business doing this to make some extra cash on the side, but LEGALLY.
Any information on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Bought an M8 in pretty dire shape after someone 'tried' to do a glass only screen repair without removing the screws...
Anyways so the screen is toast and i can't get a very good connection to the usb (think prying...a lot)
Anywhere the ESN might be printed? I really dont want to tear it down if its stolen, but i will if i have to. I only paid $30 so its not a huge loss, but i want to make sure its not stolen before i put $140 into it.
First post be nice if this isn't the right place
Hi,
I see cheap samsung phones on eBay and I wonder if they can work in Israel?
They have bad esn.