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I have been putting out information about U11+ in hamdir's thread for couple of days. I thought may be I should collate all the information and create a thread. So, here it is. Note that I am going to keep adding stuff as I use the phone everyday to point out the good the bad and the ugly. Go ahead and ask questions. If its possible for me, I will try to answer.
Quick update
Very quick update folks....
I got the amazing silver in my hands now. Been fiddling with options etc. for last 30 mins.
It a thing of beauty, let me tell you that first and foremost!! Amazing silver is really a shiny light blue colour. I love it!
Indoors, its brighter than my HTC 10 Tianma display. By how much? I don't know but its uncomfortably high for me at max. I won't use it at anywhere close to max. May be around 50%. Can't compare outdoor in direct sunlight until tomorrow. Will update again.
The weight is not a concern for me, its a little bit more than my 10 but not by much. The screen is gorgeous and much better than 10!!
The FP scanner is a little bit of a problem for me because I am not used to the rear scanner. I am finding it odd to pick the phone to use it. But I knew this going in. So, some mental recalibration is necessary. I can see OCD types hating this aspect, but I am fine with it.
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Couple of more quick updates:
1. Speakers are much better than HTC 10. Louder and clearer. You would be very pleased to hear these if you upgrade from HTC 10. Just saw the infinity war trailer on it and listened through Thriller....
2. Lowest screen brightness gets very low. Good for night time, in-dark browsing. Much lower than HTC 10.
3. The screen gets much blacker than HTC10 in "day dream" or "always on" mode in the complete darkness, which may help with battery if you are thinking of keeping AOD on always. The "light bleed" associated with LCD panels is still there through. In fact, its little uneven compared to HTC 10. On HTC 10, you can clearly see that the whole screen is lit up but only the text is brighter. On U11+, the lower left part of the screen is almost complete black whereas the right side shows more light bleed. I don't know if its a defect in my unit or its just something impossible to achieve during LCD panel manufacturing. Not perfection but not a big deal for me.
The default is not AOD but it is turn on the dimly lit display when you pick up the phone.
Double tap to wake works (someone asked earlier). On display button let's you put it to sleep in case you don't want to press power button to lock/put it sleep.
So far, thrilled to get this phone. I hope we work out TWRP really quick, root and I can move to this phone as my daily driver.
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GSMArena got the battery life wrong on this phone or they tested a different phone. I have been setting up, installing apps, syncing email accounts and generally fiddling with this phone for past 3-4 hours with 1h40m of SOT (screen brightness at 50% with Auto on, my typical setting for HTC 10) and it has consumed about 16% of battery. Haven't got that kind of battery life from any phone I have used or seen anybody else use in practical terms (I don't believe in artificial benchmarks). I think there is nothing to worry about battery life on this phone. This will last even the big time users through the day (10-12 hour day) easily.
One thing i notice is that its idling very well when turned off. My HTC 10 did not do that very well. So, the wifi chip seems to have been fixed up.
Note that its running 8.0.0 with Oct 1st patch. So, this has to still get the 8.1.1 release, which potentially should improve things.
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Its still morning here in bay area and not afternoon sunny yet. But with the morning sun behind me, I can clearly say that U11+ is better than my HTC10. With HTC camera app, I looked through a chain of balconies shaded by trees, and sun behind me, to see how far each screen shows me. Side by side, I could see more detail and farther in U11+. This is highly unscientific but the brightness in sunlight is an upgrade from HTC10 Tianma to U11+. I will try to get some photos of the two phones' camera app in sunlight later in the day.
I think brightness jump is not huge from HTC 10, but its big enough for me to say I feel more comfortable taking photos/videos outdoors. Note that Camera sensor may also be playing a role in this. HTC 10 has a smaller f/1.8 aperture. So, more testing may be needed on the screen brightness in general. But practically speaking, I browsed around and I had no trouble reading text with sun behind me, falling directly on the phone. That's good for me, 500 nits or not.
I tried with both Auto brightness enabled and disabled, at max brightness. Results are same.
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Someone asked about the FP gestures earlier. I did not find any settings for them and moving the finger around on FP in any direction or double tapping it, does not do anything. So, no gestures on FP, yet.
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Someone had asked for 4G/LTE support in the US. At least in the area I am in (bay area, CA), the coverage is same as what I got in HTC 10 on T Mobile.
Regarding the wifi, its much better than HTC 10. I compared side by side and HTC10 needed to be closer to the router by about 10 feet to be able to do speedtest from the point where I could speedtest on U11+ and still get full 90Mbps download speed. U11+ has an excellent wifi range and throughput. I get around -71dBm (signal strength) from my router at a spot where my HTC10 gives me -83dBm. At that spot, U11+ maxes out the internet traffic, whereas 10 is limited to about 45Mbps. So, anyone with HTC 10 will appreciate the huge jump in performance of wifi.
Also, the idling issue found with HTC 10's wifi is not there in U11+. It does not eat through battery while idling on wifi.
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Couple of more inputs:
1. I went to work with the phone but unfortunately I did not have the other phones with me to click the photos in bright sunlight but I can tell you, the screen has no problems in the sun. It is very bright and very usable for me. Unless you have a defective unit, the brightness of the screen should not be a concern at all. My experience is only HTC 10 vs U11+, and I am loving the brightness upgrade.
2. Usage with my sunglasses. I can not use HTC 10 in portrait mode with my sunglasses on. It goes complete dark. I did not have any issues with U11+ in both portrait and landscape orientations. Am I thrilled to wear my sunglasses in the car again? HELL YEAH!!!
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jmitr said:
Sound wise, nothing so far has beat my M7 for in ear quality. If the U11+ proves a worthy successor in that area as well, my M7 may sit in the desk drawer for the first time in over 4 years!!!
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Make your M7 a cosy bed in that drawer because its going in there for sure and for a long time.... U11+ is big upgrade (from M7 and 10, both of which I own) in sound department, both the speakers and the USB-C headphone jack, through the bundled earbuds. I have found the bundled USB-C earbuds to be of very high quality. I usually throw away packaged earbuds because they usually fall off from my ear but these fit in my ear very well. And boy they block the noise!!! I have no complaints about the missing 3.5mm jack.
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Thanks a lot for all these info. Looking forward to receiving my unit as well and start testing! I have high hopes for this one and I believe I will not be disappointed.
Thanks for all very detailed and useful things mentions.
It’s positive that more and more people having the device and the general impression is in very good level at all aspects despite all that crap GSM arena mention with their tragic review.
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Did you hook it up to the TV yet? I wonder why nobody does that. It's a very useful feature that not many modern smartphones offer unfortunately.
I wish HTC would advertise this special feature a bit more... It's underrated and underreported.
Thank you for all this info.
I Pre-Ordered one but I was skeptical with THE BAD review that I read.
I was thinking of canceling my order but now I just can't wait to get my hands on it
lebigmac said:
Did you hook it up to the TV yet? I wonder why nobody does that. It's a very useful feature that not many modern smartphones offer unfortunately.
I wish HTC would advertise this special feature a bit more... It's underrated and underreported.
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Honestly, I don't use this feature anymore. In fact, with casting feature working so well (AC wifi) and its so very convenient compared to the wire, casting gets used most of the time. I used to do this but I never bothered to buy the USB-C cable with my HTC 10.
May be I will try this again. Try some gaming on the big TV screen, fun fun fun!!
screen casting with chromecast or similar technologies always has a noticeable lag of 1-2 seconds. With direct cable connection there is no lag.
lebigmac said:
Did you hook it up to the TV yet? I wonder why nobody does that. It's a very useful feature that not many modern smartphones offer unfortunately.
I wish HTC would advertise this special feature a bit more... It's underrated and underreported.
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What do you want to know?? I did it. But is like mirror screen
Not have desktop mode like Mate 10
detritu5 said:
What do you want to know?? I did it. But is like mirror screen
Not have desktop mode like Mate 10
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How is the video and audio quality? Is it real-time or is there any noticeable lag?
And what cable did you use? Thanks.
So can you please describe us the AOD(always on display)feature how it works with HTC.
Does it have the same customization option as with Samsung or LG(v30)with variety of clock or colors option,image background support,music control(play-pause-forward) and if support notifications from any kind app.
Also when receiving notification and hit it on the screen does it open directly the specific app or not.
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AptX HD and LDAC and display
devsk said:
I have been putting out information about U11+ in hamdir's thread for couple of days. I thought may be I should collate all the information and create a thread. So, here it is. Note that I am going to keep adding stuff as I use the phone everyday to point out the good the bad and the ugly. Go ahead and ask questions. If its possible for me, I will try to answer.
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hi, i have two question
first i'd be appreciated if you tell us how is the bluetooth headphone quality on u11+ ? beacuse i know u11+ has AptX HD and LDAC
and my second question is about the display
is the display quality, color range, black colors, ... near amoled display ?
paatha13 said:
So can you please describe us the AOD(always on display)feature how it works with HTC.
Does it have the same customization option as with Samsung or LG(v30)with variety of clock or colors option,image background support,music control(play-pause-forward) and if support notifications from any kind app.
Also when receiving notification and hit it on the screen does it open directly the specific app or not.
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AOD on HTC U11+, in my opinion, leaves a lot to be desired. Few observations:
1. It only has two modes: a. show dimly lit clock/lock screen when picked up, b. always on mode, which is fixed 24/7 or on a time schedule. It lacks the mode "show dimly lit clock/lock screen when notifications arrive and repeat every 5 mins until cancelled".
2. Always On mode is a hog. Nearly 2% per hour idling. Not very useful. Its darker than any LCD I have seen before but it still show most of the display in complete darkness.
It does not provide any customization in either mode. You get 4 types of clock and that's about it. It shows apps (including music app) and their notifications with icons on small area and clicking takes to the app after unlock.
e_georgia said:
hi, i have two question
first i'd be appreciated if you tell us how is the bluetooth headphone quality on u11+ ? beacuse i know u11+ has AptX HD and LDAC
and my second question is about the display
is the display quality, color range, black colors, ... near amoled display ?
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I don't have bluetooth headsets to test this sorry.
But the display is the best LCD I have seen. It can not be equal to amoled in terms of blacks, but its the closest that an LCD has come in terms of blacks. I think the LCD technology does not allow this any better compared to amoled in terms of blacks. The contrast is amazing and the brightness is very very good. The usage in direct sunlight is very comfortable.
Unless you want to knit pick (like always on display has slight light bleed, which is the result of them trying too hard to emulate "black"), you won't have any issues with this display.
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How is the video and audio quality? Is it real-time or is there any noticeable lag?
And what cable did you use? Thanks.
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I specifically bought the HDMI->USB-C cable from Amazon for $19 (one of the most expensive cables I have bought) and tested it. It works great. No lags in the video (my TV is 1080p). The sound through my sound system sounded great.
The link to cable: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075JGM4W8
Idle drain is very minimal
It looks like wifi draining the battery when idling that was seen and documented by me on HTC10, is gone on U11+. I left the sync ON, data and wifi ON overnight. And I lost 2% battery in about 10 hours. This is how it should be.
Very very pleased with the battery and the phone overall. For me, this phone gets almost everything right. It will get better once I get hold of root on it.
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I don't have bluetooth headsets to test this sorry.
But the display is the best LCD I have seen. It can not be equal to amoled in terms of blacks, but its the closest that an LCD has come in terms of blacks. I think the LCD technology does not allow this any better compared to amoled in terms of blacks. The contrast is amazing and the brightness is very very good. The usage in direct sunlight is very comfortable.
Unless you want to knit pick (like always on display has slight light bleed, which is the result of them trying too hard to emulate "black"), you won't have any issues with this display.
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how about the audio quality of headphones ?
Does the phone get hot with brightness on max? Or during heavy downloading of Apps or charging?
How long does a full charge take?
Are you using a case / cover? Noticed any scratches on the back?
Does YouTube allow you to stretch to full screen?
Thanks!
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Great feedback on this device. Thanks for doing this @devsk
I am in SF also. I have been seriously torn about buying a international no warranty phone. I jumped to the LG V30, purchased from B & H then cancelled the order a couple days ago.
However, I ordered the U11+ last night from Amazon - NGP Store USA. They get decent reviews but have a really strict return policy. I tried the U11 earlier this year but returned it. The U11+ had all the U11 was missing + more. [emoji3]
-- Who did you buy from and did you entertain buying a warranty? If so, from who.
-- Cases seem to be limited. Do you purchase one?
Thanks.
johninsf said:
Great feedback on this device. Thanks for doing this @devsk
I am in SF also. I have been seriously torn about buying a international no warranty phone. I jumped to the LG V30, purchased from B & H then cancelled the order a couple days ago.
However, I ordered the U11+ last night from Amazon - NGP Store USA. They get decent reviews but have a really strict return policy. I tried the U11 earlier this year but returned it. The U11+ had all the U11 was missing + more. [emoji3]
-- Who did you buy from and did you entertain buying a warranty? If so, from who.
-- Cases seem to be limited. Do you purchase one?
Thanks.
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Thanks. I bought it off of amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077PJXZFK
I did not buy a warranty. I took a chance and its been fine so far. The quality of the device and manufacturing is very very high. I am very pleased with the whole experience. Do not believe anybody who disses this device. It checks pretty much every box I had. Biggest thing is Treble. I expect to run well supported AOSP on this thing.
I am using the bundled transparent case and I am fine with it. Its minimal and it shows off the amazing silver very well.
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Does the phone get hot with brightness on max? Or during heavy downloading of Apps or charging?
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This phone does not get hot under any circumstances (brightness or extended play). I have it in the bundled minimal case, and I played racing games for extended periods of time (connected to my TV using a USB-C to HDMI adapter). It drove the TV's 1080p display without any delay and with great sound! It felt warm after an hour of play but I would qualify that a lukewarm. My HTC 10 definitely gets much warmer than U11+. So, its an upgrade for me.
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How long does a full charge take?
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I never measured this from 0 to 100%. I am not worried about this though. All I can tell you is it charges very fast.
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Are you using a case / cover? Noticed any scratches on the back?
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I am using the bundled minimal case. Its transparent and shows off amazing silver well.
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Does YouTube allow you to stretch to full screen?
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It depends on the video's aspect ratio. For example, Inifinity War Trailer filled the screen but apple sway ad did not. It does not stretch in general and I think that's the right thing to do. I would not like videos with a different native aspect ratio than 2:1 to stretch and show all stretched faces etc.
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Couldn't pass up the price! I got the white one, less fingerprint magnet. I'm using it with Straight Talk with Verizon SIM. Here's my impressions after two days of use.
I've used the Moto X Pure for the past year. It was the only unlocked, multi-carrier large screen phone....I like 'em big ... Wait, that came out wrong....?
Update
First thing I did was all the updates, reset, update, reset... Wash rinse, repeat. Like Android likes to do, I couldn't download the last security update till I got on WiFi.... Wouldn't use data via the Moto's hotspot thus I had to go to the library, very rural area, only WiFi around....pita but typical Android not allowing system updates over data! So an uber clean start.
Overall I think the PH-1 is a good device. I haven't had any real negative bugs. The charging icon when off, the espresso cup, never shows fully charged. Otherwise the software seems like any other decent Android device I've used.
Build quality
IMHO ceramic isn't a good material to use. It's far too slippery to place on any surface, and being an insulator not great at removing heat, not to mention potential signal issues. However, my device's fit and finish is excellent, though it'll be the first device I use a case with — I've never broken a screen, knock on wood, in 5+ years. I have to put this in a case so I can set it on surfaces without it running off.
Screen
It's good, though too small imo. I really like the Moto X Pure more. Haven't compared them side by side on a great photo yet but I'm sure the PH-1 is better in that regard. The biggest pain is the text is so much smaller and there isn't a perfect setting for font size + display size, for me, thus I'm adapting to the default.
Camera
I'm not a big photo person. The camera to me does a good job. It took a photo of small print on a charging brick that can't be read. I've tried it with other devices and none could make the text clear but the PH-1 did.
Notch
IMO this notch and 2:1 screen ratio is stupid. However I will say essential did it the best you could. I don't mind it at all, but the reality is it's not a 5.7" screen — you rarely use the notification area (which is much larger), and if you do you get a wonky aspect ratio. IMO anything below 6" screen size needs to stay 16:9 and no notch. It's amazing how much more screen I have with the Moto X Pure.
Performance
Mine has been great. There's the occasional jitter or lag depending on the app but I've seen that on every Android device I've used — haven't used a pixel. FYI I turned off animations. Essential has done a good job keeping the bloatware down and unnecessary background running apps, I really appreciate that! Now if we could get Google to play along!
The PH-1 also does a lot better with ram management than the Moto! The Moto didn't take much before you were reloading the recent app or web page — I honestly don't think it ever used over 2GB of the ram. The Ph-1 IMO does well keeping recent apps/pages from being reloaded.
Fingerprint scanner
Works fast when it works but a lot of double tries. Might need to redo the setup.
Signal
I tested the signal between my two devices and here's what I noticed. The signal dB & dBm range is much greater on the PH-1 than the Moto. The Moto stays pretty steady in my current location which has a very strong Verizon signal. The PH-1 signal varies a lot ±10. It can be significantly lower or higher than the Moto. It seems to really decrease signal in standby, I'm guessing essential is turning down the power to the antenna to increase battery life when in standby which would be smart, and the signal IS AFFECTED BY HOW YOU HOLD IT, thus a case is a smart idea. Nonetheless my speeds are better.
Enhanced LTE
Can't make phone calls if it's enabled.... Most likely due to being on a mvno. And didn't notice any improvement in signal or data with it on.
Hotspot
Seems to be normal.
Speaker
It's loud! Louder than the Moto! There Moto sounds a bit better but not a lot. I'm pretty impressed.
Call quality
Seems the same.
Battery life
Very good. Nearly double the Moto! — I usually get 5hrs SOT browsing, and have had 12hrs SOT reading. I've always been able to get good SOT compared to most users — due to my usage habits. Where this one does so much better is the SoC IMO. I can browse about 2x what I can on the Moto. I'm sure the screen is more efficient also but I've not had enough time to test the two. I'm very pleased thus far.
Right now I'm at 87% battery with 2 hrs 15 minutes SOT! With LTE, location on, some browsing, signal testing, and writing this long winded thing.
Shipped with no charge
My device arrived with no charge, wouldn't even power into the battery charging state for a while.
Charging
First charge was slow! After that it has charged very fast, and doesn't get hot like the Moto.
USB-C to HDMI
Used this tiny converter and it worked!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077XFZXXL?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title
However, while video was properly displayed at 16:9 my landscape of the device was over sized. I had to set the display size to the largest, strangely, to make the screen smaller on the TV but it never was 1:1, always slightly bigger, and I couldn't find an adjustment on the TV for scanning HDMI.... Could be the TV.
No exFat support
A pita. Had to format my Samsung T5 ex ssd. The apps to use exfat (Paragon, mixplorer, etc) weren't good enough, better to reformat IMO if you're going to be using a particular device frequently. The read/wire speed to the T5 isn't super fast, ~100MBps.
I don't use NFC and rarely Bluetooth thus I haven't tested them and don't care.
Straight Talk setup
Of course their customer service insisted I get a new SIM card — you can't use the same SIM because they can only use one IMEI number per SIM. So I ordered a new SIM but tried the old one — data didn't work the first couple tries — the proper apn wasn't being loaded, but third time everything is rocking including the proper TracFone apn but it can't be edited — I don't know if that's Android 8 or what.
Got the Moto command center widget working as well though it loads slow on restart. I love this widget!
Used to use Swype, only keyboard I've used really, trying to get used to Gboard.... Not liking it at all!
Thanks for reading!
UPDATE 7.24.18
GPS, LTE, Wi-Fi, and cellular signal
FYI: using Straight Talk w/Verizon SIM.
Went for a drive into town today, I'm in a very rural area, and had a chance to really put the signal issues to the test.
GPS: no problems whatsoever. Connects faster than any device I've owned. Didn't drop either.
LTE: this device switches bands more than my Moto X Pure. While my Moto would stay on band 4 this will switch between 4 & 13, even in the same location not moving. The Moto has about -10dbm better on band 4, but the PH-1 is same or better on 13. I've read some say they think the big issue of signal with this device is band 4, seems lower for me as well.
I maintained a cellular signal the entire drive, but data dropped out just about the same as the Moto does in the same areas. So, about the same imo. However the data signal on this device was noticeably worse in the grocery store. To the point of not being useable till I found that perfect spot.
Wi-Fi: the grocery stores's WiFi was problematic. Connection showed stable but wouldn't transfer data. Turned off data, turned WiFi back on and worked better for a bit. I've had similar issues with other Android devices and WiFi, my Moto has been the best at WiFi connectivity.
I've had similar issues with every Android device I've owned — some type of connection bug in either WiFi, GPS, or data. So, to be fair the PH-1 isn't alone when it comes to connection issues and I'm sure much of that goes back to Google. All in all I would say signal, depending on available bands, can be a bit lower in general thus those really spotty areas may be non-existent. However, when connected I get much faster data speeds than my Moto.
A further note.... If you have VERY dry hands this thing is ridiculously slick! Not so bad when hands are "normal."
Like every Android device I've used or tested it has its own quarks, nothing to horrible though, at least in my case ?
Good review.
Fwiw I am using the custom nav bar app that hides both the nav and status bar. That combined with setting display setting small and font extra large works pretty decent. I am coming from a Nexus 6 which has a ton of screen space.
Were can I find that widget
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kenbrownstone said:
Were can I find that widget
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Here's a newer version of the widget.... I loaded it last night and it seems ok. If you want the one i had in the screen shot let me know, but I think this one functions better.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/themes-apps/app-moto-z-widget-t3410892/amp/
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droidstyle said:
Good review.
Fwiw I am using the custom nav bar app that hides both the nav and status bar. That combined with setting display setting small and font extra large works pretty decent. I am coming from a Nexus 6 which has a ton of screen space.
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Are you talking about Natcho notch?
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Essential has a 19:10 screen ratio, not 18.5/9, which brings it closer to a standard width phone. I actually feel like I have quite a bit more screen over the s8 I had before this. I can't wait until you can fill the notch area on android P. The black bar that happens drives me nuts. I'm using the XDA gestures app and a magisk module to hide the nav bar, so at least I gain that space.
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Essential has a 19:10 screen ratio, not 18.5/9, which brings it closer to a standard width phone. I actually feel like I have quite a bit more screen over the s8 I had before this. I can't wait until you can fill the notch area on android P. The black bar that happens drives me nuts. I'm using the XDA gestures app and a magisk module to hide the nav bar, so at least I gain that space.
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The S8 2:1 aspect ratio is to narrow.... I looked at those 2:1 phones compared to my Moto X Pure and I couldn't give up that much screen. I think the PH-1 would have been better at 6" ... But that's me ?
Im not planning on rooting. I get to OCD when I go down that road and waste to much time. So I'll take what I can. But all in all I'm good with the device.
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Charles7 said:
It's far too slippery to place on any surface
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My biggest complaint as well. I have both the glossy black and matte grey, and the grey is so much nicer. No fingerprints, and nowhere near as slippery as the glossy black one
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My biggest complaint as well. I have both the glossy black and matte grey, and the grey is so much nicer. No fingerprints, and nowhere near as slippery as the glossy black one
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When I ordered I didn't notice the grey was matte. Probably could take fine sandpaper and turn this into matte. Did that with a LG G2 and it worked great, but that was plastic.
Think I'll go with the Incipio dualpro case instead, just for the screen drop protection.
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Charles7 said:
The S8 2:1 aspect ratio is to narrow.... I looked at those 2:1 phones compared to my Moto X Pure and I couldn't give up that much screen. I think the PH-1 would have been better at 6" ... But that's me
Im not planning on rooting. I get to OCD when I go down that road and waste to much time. So I'll take what I can. But all in all I'm good with the device.
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Eventually I"m sure they'll add the setting to go full immersive like they had in oreo under dev settings. I kinda can't wait. That was my favorite thing about running AOSiP and RR, and almost makes me want to go back and just use the gestures app on one of those.
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Eventually I"m sure they'll add the setting to go full immersive like they had in oreo under dev settings. I kinda can't wait. That was my favorite thing about running AOSiP and RR, and almost makes me want to go back and just use the gestures app on one of those.
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The full immersive mode on Oreo is ok for certain things, but on videos you have to zoom in every single time, not a natural fit thus why I'm a 16:9 fan ?
But that is better than nothing!!!
I really wish Google would have gone all in on gestures AKA Blackberry OS 10. This phone is perfect for that!
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The full immersive mode on Oreo is ok for certain things, but on videos you have to zoom in every single time, not a natural fit thus why I'm a 16:9 fan ?
But that is better than nothing!!!
I really wish Google would have gone all in on gestures AKA Blackberry OS 10. This phone is perfect for that!
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Switch back to the P beta for MOAR gestures
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Switch back to the P beta for MOAR gestures
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I'm on 8.1... I'll wait for stable P, thanks though.
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Switch back to the P beta for MOAR gestures
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Honestly, the gestures are so half baked, that is why I'm using the xda app even though I'm on p. The nav bar still being there means you gain no extra space (they could have at least made it transparent. Tried navbar apps but there is no transparency option), and the back button looks ridiculous.
Charles7 said:
Are you talking about Natcho notch?
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When I ordered I didn't notice the grey was matte. Probably could take fine sandpaper and turn this into matte. Did that with a LG G2 and it worked great, but that was plastic.
Think I'll go with the Incipio dualpro case instead, just for the screen drop protection.
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No...I'm using command bar app that allows full immersive mode. No Nav bar or status bar with any app or desktop mode unless you swipe the screen on finger print sensor. I have full screen from top to bottom all the time.
Yeah I have the Halo Gray...it's a matte finish. I really like it.
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No...I'm using command bar app that allows full immersive mode. No Nav bar or status bar with any app or desktop mode unless you swipe the screen on finger print sensor. I have full screen from top to bottom all the time.
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Could you point me to the app you're talking about? Does it need root? I'm not planning on root.... But.....
I haven't found an app that works with the fingerprint sensor, and the immersive mode apps aren't worth it, at least the ones that I have tried. Thanks
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No...I'm using command bar app that allows full immersive mode. No Nav bar or status bar with any app or desktop mode unless you swipe the screen on finger print sensor. I have full screen from top to bottom all the time.
Yeah I have the Halo Gray...it's a matte finish. I really like it.
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It leaves a black bar for me like any other app. Are you on Android p?
No I am on stock 8.1unlocked and rooted..no black bars.
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No I am on stock 8.1unlocked and rooted..no black bars.
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Oh, stock has the notch setting in dev options anyway so yeah I knew that worked even without an app.
Hey All,
Just received my EVR-L29 today.....man this is SEXY!
I was shocked as I was setting it up that Face Unlock came up. I hadn't read or seen any reviews that mentioned it and it seems fairly accurate. Pleasant surprise that I wanted to share...hope there wasn't another thread already!
I also never thought I would use a phone that made my Mi Mix feel small ?
what does the codes mean at the end of the phone? i.e. EVR-L29, CLT-29, HMA-L29, LYA-L29 etc? which one do I need to buy so that it works in the UK?
Cheers
KK
I own the Chinese version of the Mate 20X but I'm agree..
the Huawei facial unlock had amazed me since the update on the old P10, here I use it as favorite unlock, though Google Smart Lock is missing.
It recognizes even in low light and with glasses
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what does the codes mean at the end of the phone? i.e. EVR-L29, CLT-29, HMA-L29, LYA-L29 etc? which one do I need to buy so that it works in the UK?
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KK
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There are a tone of threads discussing this already but the EVR-L29 is the 'global' version from Hong Kong and has the Google apps pre installed but there are pros and cons to China and Global versions.
Would be nice if the phone unlocked and went to the home screen and didn't need a swipe after using the face unlock, but yeah it works amazingly!
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Would be nice if the phone unlocked and went to the home screen and didn't need a swipe after using the face unlock, but yeah it works amazingly!
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Settings/Security & Privacy/Face Recognition/Direct unlock
imapfsr said:
I also never thought I would use a phone that made my Mi Mix feel small ?
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Mi mix user here, wondering how does the size feel?
Ajusted to it quickly?
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Mi mix user here, wondering how does the size feel?
Ajusted to it quickly?
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Seconds, it's not much wider but certainly taller. If you love your Mix as much as I loved mine you will understand that when I say what made the Mix so great is here in this phone but with much nicer features and what a difference having almost no chin makes... My new love is the 20X... Sorry Mix
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Mi mix user here, wondering how does the size feel?
Ajusted to it quickly?
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Honestly depends on many things. I can adjust to just about anything.
As of now, I'm torn between the OnePlus 6T and the Mate 20 X. Size wise the 6T is so much easier to use, and with GCam development coming along, the pictures the 6T takes is simply amazing. I hate to say it but the Mate 20 X doesn't have great portrait modes. I've been testing both the Mate 20 X and the 6T extensively and while I was drawn to the Mate 20 X for its camera, size, battery life, etc. It looks like the camera is letting me down a bit for certain situations.
I could ramble on, but if you're genuinely only interested in size - you get used to it if your hands are of decent size. I've been told I have slightly above average hands and I can use it very well. While holding it with one hand, I can type and reach the "q" and "p" on the keyboard with a slight stretch.
My only gripe with the size being the actual software.. Huawei has poorly optimised the space available. On a 6.3" screen, I have 6 quick setting icons on the 6T. On a 7.2" screen, the Mate 20 X has 5. The icons look cartoonishly big.
The face unlock is very fast but I think it's less secure. On Galaxy phones they let me choose face unlocking speed and say the fast face unlocking is less secure. I guess it's because face scanning requires much complicated calculation than retina and finger print scannings.
The finger print scanner is so quick! Quicker than Samsung GS8 and GS9.
I too am supprised with face unlock in good light it's fast and works well, at night it might need a second attempt.
Having come from a mate 20pro in would say it's almost as good during the day (for ease of access) at night though the pro was a lot more reliable, probably because of the infrared camera etc in the notch.
Where did u buy the l29 ver.?
Have you had any updates so far?
Did they help?
How is the battery life with the dark mode?
Have you already bought an LG V60 ThinQ from AT&T? Do you plan to? AT&T and LG are gifting a Dual Screen attachment to early adopters while supplies last. The purchase deadline is April 30.
Submit your info below:
https://www.awardlink.com/awards/my.rewards/ATTLGV60DualScreen.html
I bought my phone on March 20, and submitted my online redemption form today.
Done, and done. Says 3-6 weeks out.
3 to 6 weeks redemption.
I have as well yesterday and the estimate is three to six weeks.
So I just got a tracking number from UPS stating a package will be shipping today and arriving tomorrow. I have nothing else ordered so I believe it is my dual screen, hopefullly!
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So I just got a tracking number from UPS stating a package will be shipping today and arriving tomorrow. I have nothing else ordered so I believe it is my dual screen, hopefullly!
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I just received my Dual Screen today. That was fast, perhaps because I live not far across the DFW metroplex from the fulfillment center.
The screen and case are a nice addition. The result is a big chunk of a phone - really a personal portable computer, which all modern smartphones really are. Unfortunately, the second screen prefers the factory launcher for its gestures and app drawer, so we'll need to prod the makers of our favorite launchers (mine is Nova Launcher) to figure out a way to support it. Same goes for messaging apps, keyboards, etc. Some other hacking may yield results. Otherwise, having the extra screen is great for running multiple apps, cut-and-paste, etc.
Free is good.
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I just received my Dual Screen today. That was fast, perhaps because I live not far across the DFW metroplex from the fulfillment center.
The screen and case are a nice addition. The result is a big chunk of a phone - really a personal portable computer, which all modern smartphones really are. Unfortunately, the second screen prefers the factory launcher for its gestures and app drawer, so we'll need to prod the makers of our favorite launchers (mine is Nova Launcher) to figure out a way to support it. Same goes for messaging apps, keyboards, etc. Some other hacking may yield results. Otherwise, having the extra screen is great for running multiple apps, cut-and-paste, etc.
Free is good.
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Got mine today as well, just now starting to use it. Love it so far
Took me about a week to receive mine. Great deal from ATT. It's pretty neat, but seems limited with what apps work with it. If that expands, them this will be great.
Blueoval24 said:
Took me about a week to receive mine. Great deal from ATT. It's pretty neat, but seems limited with what apps work with it. If that expands, them this will be great.
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Get the app "WideMode for LG"
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So I just got a tracking number from UPS stating a package will be shipping today and arriving tomorrow. I have nothing else ordered so I believe it is my dual screen, hopefullly!
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When did you submit for it?
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Get the app "WideMode for LG"
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This is definitely a good solution, thanks so much for the suggestion. Some apps don't work 100% as intended, but it's better than nothing!
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When did you submit for it?
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3/26, the day I got the phone. Had confirmation of approval same day.
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This is definitely a good solution, thanks so much for the suggestion. Some apps don't work 100% as intended, but it's better than nothing!
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Just got my tracking number and it looks like i will have my dual screen today or tomorrow
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Just got my tracking number and it looks like i will have my dual screen today or tomorrow
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Good news!
Thanks to the OP for the link. It pushed me from "eehhh, I dunno" to "impulse buy" territory.
The phone is a big step up from my beloved LG V30, and I can't wait to get the dual screen.
That said, it's a bummer to hear that Nova Launcher apparently doesn't properly support it.
I use a combination of Nova Launcher and Fluid Navigation Gestures to replace the stock Android 10 gestures.
If my current setup won't work on the second screen, I doubt I'll be using it that much.
That said, I got my phone on 4/1 (ordered 3/31), and submitted my claim for the offer on 4/1 as well.
Got the usual 3-6 weeks notification. But I did receive a UPS shipping notification for a package coming out of Texas (I think) with no accompanying email from a retailer such as BestBuy or Amazon.
Due to arrive by tomorrow evening. Here's hoping it's the dual screen!
If it's shipping from texas then its the duel screen.
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Thanks to the OP for the link. It pushed me from "eehhh, I dunno" to "impulse buy" territory.
The phone is a big step up from my beloved LG V30, and I can't wait to get the dual screen.
That said, it's a bummer to hear that Nova Launcher apparently doesn't properly support it.
I use a combination of Nova Launcher and Fluid Navigation Gestures to replace the stock Android 10 gestures.
If my current setup won't work on the second screen, I doubt I'll be using it that much.
That said, I got my phone on 4/1 (ordered 3/31), and submitted my claim for the offer on 4/1 as well.
Got the usual 3-6 weeks notification. But I did receive a UPS shipping notification for a package coming out of Texas (I think) with no accompanying email from a retailer such as BestBuy or Amazon.
Due to arrive by tomorrow evening. Here's hoping it's the dual screen!
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Mejilan said:
Thanks to the OP for the link. It pushed me from "eehhh, I dunno" to "impulse buy" territory.
The phone is a big step up from my beloved LG V30, and I can't wait to get the dual screen.
That said, it's a bummer to hear that Nova Launcher apparently doesn't properly support it.
I use a combination of Nova Launcher and Fluid Navigation Gestures to replace the stock Android 10 gestures.
If my current setup won't work on the second screen, I doubt I'll be using it that much.
That said, I got my phone on 4/1 (ordered 3/31), and submitted my claim for the offer on 4/1 as well.
Got the usual 3-6 weeks notification. But I did receive a UPS shipping notification for a package coming out of Texas (I think) with no accompanying email from a retailer such as BestBuy or Amazon.
Due to arrive by tomorrow evening. Here's hoping it's the dual screen!
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Should be, mine came from Mesquite, TX
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Should be, mine came from Mesquite, TX
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Thanks for that. Just double-checked mine, and Mesquite, TX it is!
So i got my dual screen case today... but when I plug my v60 into it, it doesn't do anything. No dual screen button and the dual screen quick button in the notification shortcuts is still grayed out. I know it's type-c plugin works because the magnet charger still works and charges my phone through the case. I did try factory resetting in case it was my home launcher or something else stopping it from popping up. Any help from you guys would be appreciated. Otherwise I'm gonna email the address listed on the warning notification and just hope to get it replaced. Really don't want to wait more though haha. I WANT MY DUAL SCREEN!
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So i got my dual screen case today... but when I plug my v60 into it, it doesn't do anything. No dual screen button and the dual screen quick button in the notification shortcuts is still grayed out. I know it's type-c plugin works because the magnet charger still works and charges my phone through the case. I did try factory resetting in case it was my home launcher or something else stopping it from popping up. Any help from you guys would be appreciated. Otherwise I'm gonna email the address listed on the warning notification and just hope to get it replaced. Really don't want to wait more though haha. I WANT MY DUAL SCREEN!
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You mean that the Notifications Quick Tile for the Dual Screen doesn't work? For me, that Quick Tile was hidden by default, and I had to edit my Notifications shade to get the button to show up. But even so, that's just one of two (at least) methods of enabling the second screen. I got mine yesterday, and not only does the (unhidden) Notifications Quick Tile work when pressed, but I also saw a little pill button thing appear on the right-hand side of the primary device. Tapping on that also prompts you to turn the second screen attachment on and off.
That said, as much as I like the concept of a dual screen + case attachment, the fact that Nova Launcher (and my associated icon pack and live wallpaper) and Fluid Navigation Gestures flat-out don't work on the second screen is a total buzz-killer. Unless these apps, icons, and wallpapers somehow get updated to support two screens simultaneously, I'm afraid I'll be retiring this accessory. :/
Double tap on the 2nd screen and see if that activates it
See:
The 2021 Motorola Edge offers a 144Hz display and Qualcomm's Snapdragon 778G for $699
The Motorola Edge (2021) has launched in the U.S., and it has flagship-tier specs at an upper mid-range price. Here are all the details!
www.xda-developers.com
Can anyone confirm if it does or does not come with an SD card slot? Motorola isn't clear on their site.
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Can anyone confirm if it does or does not come with an SD card slot? Motorola isn't clear on their site.
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Mine arrives in the next hour, I'll check. 499$ free. Next day shipping.
***NO
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Can anyone confirm if it does or does not come with an SD card slot? Motorola isn't clear on their site.
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Liking it out of the box, deleted as much google crap as possible right away. Nice phone!
Mine was just delivered to my place of work. I don't go back until Monday, so I won't get to enjoy until then. Can't wait.
trsix said:
Liking it out of the box, deleted as much google crap as possible right away. Nice phone!
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But what about an SD card slot?
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But what about an SD card slot?
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I edited my reply yesterday NO sd card slot. Wish it came with a cheapy gel case, no on that. Smooth phone though.
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I edited my reply yesterday NO sd card slot. Wish it came with a cheapy gel case, no on that. Smooth phone though.
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Sorry. Missed the edit. That's a bummer.
Honestly I like the phone well enough, it's snappy, and battery life and charging is pretty decent.
Gaming is buttery smooth, though I've only played Pokemon unite on it lol.
One complaint, when using the gesture mode for back/home/recents, it takes a really exaggerated swipe up to about mid-screen to get to the recent apps carousel. It works, just takes longer than I'd like I guess.
Also, having issues getting the native screen recorder to do its job, but maybe im just doing it wrong haha
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Can anyone confirm if it does or does not come with an SD card slot? Motorola isn't clear on their site.
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no it dont
It has no memory card support
Z3 analog headphones adapter works
Facing issue.
While calling internet not working.
Can someone please share solutions.
thanks