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Hey guys, you who used stock 5.1 and custom ROMS that are having the latest Android version (5.1.1): what differences do you notice?
As we all know 5.1.1 is the latest version which fixes the memory leak, and Moto is still a version behind on 5.1.1: stock only is Android 5.1.
How would you compare stock to the latest Android version with the latest bugfixes and memory leak fix?
Would it be possible that Moto backported 5.1.1 fixes to stock 5.1?
Can a moderator edit "bases ROM's" to "5.1.1-based custom ROMS? I made a typo
Sparubens said:
Hey guys, you who used stock 5.1 and custom ROMS that are having the latest Android version (5.1.1): what differences do you notice?
As we all know 5.1.1 is the latest version which fixes the memory leak, and Moto is still a version behind on 5.1.1: stock only is Android 5.1.
How would you compare stock to the latest Android version with the latest bugfixes and memory leak fix?
Would it be possible that Moto backported 5.1.1 fixes to stock 5.1?
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It is more a question of CM12.1 vs Stock ROM.
With the Stock Motorola Lollipop you have (at least in theory) a bug free ROM, it will work in every situation and scenarios.
Where with a custom ROM you will have more experimental features, a more tunable kernel and settings (that can either improve or break a ROM) and, to be honest, more support as they update almost every week where Motorola go very slow.
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It is more a question of CM12.1 vs Stock ROM.
With the Stock Motorola Lollipop you have (at least in theory) a bug free ROM, it will work in every situation and scenarios.
Where with a custom ROM you will have more experimental features, a more tunable kernel and settings (that can either improve or break a ROM) and, to be honest, more support as they update almost every week where Motorola go very slow.
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Yeah that's true. I was just wondering if the 5.1 version still has the memory leak which was resolved in 5.1.1. Also, CM12 based roms don't support notification tickers anymore, not even through Xposed so that's a bit pity too. But they do have features you can't find in stock or Xposed.
Just wondering which ROM gives the best performance, CM12 or optimized stock or just plain AOSP without any tweaks.
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Yeah that's true. I was just wondering if the 5.1 version still has the memory leak which was resolved in 5.1.1. Also, CM12 based roms don't support notification tickers anymore, not even through Xposed so that's a bit pity too. But they do have features you can't find in stock or Xposed.
Just wondering which ROM gives the best performance, CM12 or optimized stock or just plain AOSP without any tweaks.
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I can't say if Motorola fix the Memory issue or not. I can say too that some CM12.1 ROMs did have memory issues even at 5.1.1 but i think all are gone now.
About performance, a custom ROM for sure will bring you that. I'm not a big fan of motorola "optimizations" for our devices, in fact i would say they don't do at all.
It all depends really, you could get stock 5.1 with moggy kernel v12 which is very smooth being a linaro based kernel with other optimizations as well. (I was running that earlier today)
But you could also get a custom ROM such as blisspop. Which is very very poorly developed on our device.
A ROM that the developer uses as a daily driver is likely to be better than stock. However you'll find ROMs such as BlissPop where the developer does not run the ROM on our device and merely syncs with latest sources and uploads the builds without testing them first.
Those ROMs are likely to provide worse performance and definitely less stability than stock. Unless of course you flash a custom kernel over it, but then you've just got a sugar coated turd. And nobody wants a turd.
Sent from my XT1045 running CM 12.1 7/23 build with Optimus Kernel R38 using XDA Free mobile app
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It all depends really, you could get stock 5.1 with moggy kernel v12 which is very smooth being a linaro based kernel with other optimizations as well. (I was running that earlier today)
But you could also get a custom ROM such as blisspop. Which is very very poorly developed on our device.
A ROM that the developer uses as a daily driver is likely to be better than stock. However you'll find ROMs such as BlissPop where the developer does not run the ROM on our device and merely syncs with latest sources and uploads the builds without testing them first.
Those ROMs are likely to provide worse performance and definitely less stability than stock. Unless of course you flash a custom kernel over it, but then you've just got a sugar coated turd. And nobody wants a turd.
Sent from my XT1045 running CM 12.1 7/23 build with Optimus Kernel R38 using XDA Free mobile app
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YEs that is true, also there are some ROMs that are much more experimental then stable.
So a research would be need.
That being said, stock is always the safest bet but a nice custom ROM will be superior if he find one.
I'm personally very happy with Euphoria and the R35 version of the Optimus Kernel.
But you (@Sparubens ) would need to flash all the roms to find the one who fit you better, stock and non stock
It's worth considering the difference in Battery-life of Stock Firmware / ROMs in comparison to non-Stock custom ROMs. That could be an interesting thread.
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YEs that is true, also there are some ROMs that are much more experimental then stable.
So a research would be need.
That being said, stock is always the safest bet but a nice custom ROM will be superior if he find one.
I'm personally very happy with Euphoria and the R35 version of the Optimus Kernel.
But you (@Sparubens ) would need to flash all the roms to find the one who fit you better, stock and non stock
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I did flash almost every ROM here but there always seems to be an issue:
-CM12.1 is stable and fast, but doesn't have 4 tiles per row option in QS Settings and doesn't support notification ticker anymore (Xposed), SaberMod is smooth (Beeto) but there's a bug where you can't access SuperSU without dialing a code
- SlimROM wasn't a good experience when trying it to use as daily driver, sluggish and bad multitasking
- CM12.1 based ROMS like CrDroid and Euphoria I do really like, have some bugs like screen pinning causing reboot (CrDroid) and also no real Xposed support for CrDroid and Euphoria doesn't register all touches on the keyboard and makes my phone a bit hot, otherwise I would be very happy to have it as a daily driver, AICP was running okayish but there's been a bug for over a month that when opening the data quick menu, the percentage is misaligned, and it still hasn't been fixed.
- Stock 5.1 is nice, but it's a version behind 5.1.1 so that's not very nice either. Also heavily lacking in options, but I can use Xposed. Also there are 2 carrier labels on the lockscreen which makes no sense at all..
Also, in custom ROMS the torch doesn't seem to be functioning fully, the light density is not at it fullest. Sadly there seem to be some quirks with every ROM.
I'm ready to make compromises and have a ROM as daily driver which doesn't support notification ticker (basically all of them atm) but then there's also the torch issue sadly which pushes me more back to stock. But then again, nobody knows if stock still has the memory leak and opinions have been very different from person to person about stock 5.1.
Some interesting opinions over here, keep 'em coming!
@lost101 I personally think that there's no custom ROM that can match the battery life of stock, it has been impressive, surely on Lollipop.
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Also, in custom ROMS the torch doesn't seem to be functioning fully, the light density is not at it fullest.
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A solution for this problem seems not to be far away
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62028617&postcount=155
Sparubens said:
I did flash almost every ROM here but there always seems to be an issue:
-CM12.1 is stable and fast, but doesn't have 4 tiles per row option in QS Settings and doesn't support notification ticker anymore (Xposed), SaberMod is smooth (Beeto) but there's a bug where you can't access SuperSU without dialing a code
- SlimROM wasn't a good experience when trying it to use as daily driver, sluggish and bad multitasking
- CM12.1 based ROMS like CrDroid and Euphoria I do really like, have some bugs like screen pinning causing reboot (CrDroid) and also no real Xposed support for CrDroid and Euphoria doesn't register all touches on the keyboard and makes my phone a bit hot, otherwise I would be very happy to have it as a daily driver, AICP was running okayish but there's been a bug for over a month that when opening the data quick menu, the percentage is misaligned, and it still hasn't been fixed.
- Stock 5.1 is nice, but it's a version behind 5.1.1 so that's not very nice either. Also heavily lacking in options, but I can use Xposed. Also there are 2 carrier labels on the lockscreen which makes no sense at all..
Also, in custom ROMS the torch doesn't seem to be functioning fully, the light density is not at it fullest. Sadly there seem to be some quirks with every ROM.
I'm ready to make compromises and have a ROM as daily driver which doesn't support notification ticker (basically all of them atm) but then there's also the torch issue sadly which pushes me more back to stock. But then again, nobody knows if stock still has the memory leak and opinions have been very different from person to person about stock 5.1.
Some interesting opinions over here, keep 'em coming!
@lost101 I personally think that there's no custom ROM that can match the battery life of stock, it has been impressive, surely on Lollipop.
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That's why we have a lot of roms outthere, everyone can choose what match better with everyone, if you want something without issues choose stock, but don't have the optimizations options, if you prefer the options, choose the one you consider is better, but always have to sacrifice something
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Hello fine gentlemen, it's been a good ride. As a complete noob i remember i started this whole rooting thing around 5 months ago when i was absolutely desperate because of the touch issues by this phone, that's when the new kernel arrived with the infamous 20150515 cm12.1 nightly and i finally was able to enjoy my OPO on it's full glory again. But now after these months of flashing nightly after nightly i'm just tired, tired of random bugs, reboots, tints, etc., which obviously don't diminish the amazing rom that this is and are things that i acknowledge come naturally with nightly releases (to point out i'm not complaining at all). I just want to flash something stable so i don't have to worry about these minor things even if i miss new fresh features, so this lead to these couple of questions that i would appreciate any of you can help me with:
1. what is the best latest stable rom for OPO right now ? be it CM, COS, Oxygen, etc whatever i don't care, i only care that it is stable and come with the touch fix kernel
2. or should i wait for a marshmallow stable rom ? (i've read marshmallow is way more polished than lollipop, smoother and consumes less battery)
3. what (extra) steps should i take to flash the suggested rom ? is it as simple as i have been doing with the nightlies (just download zip, reboot in recovery, flash zip, clear cache and reboot again) ?
thanks in advance for the help people !!
Sultan's CM12.1.
I'm using EXODUS , very stable and a lot of different features.
Exodus here too. Sultians is very nice too.
Using Sultan's cm 12.1. Runs smoothly and almost bug free in my opo
Sultan's CM12.1 or ResurrectionRemix
Stock SlimSaber or Slimsaber caf. Check out the slimsaber threads for flashing details.
Hi bro i want to know can i use same old kernel to ever updating CM rom will i face compatibility issue like please update your kernel or your kernel is too old ? Do kernel needs to be updated like rom?
Thanks&Regards
Rohan
If there is are significant changes in the rom after some updates; the kernel may become incompatible and hence flashing a more recent one will be required. You won't get any notifications/warning though, the now-incompatabile kernel will simply cause a bootloop. For example, the x-infinity is now not working anymore.
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Hello, I wonder if I should install a custom rom and what to install, possibly stable and continuous updates. I have the XT1541 variant.
What do you recommend? Thank you and sorry if there are already similar post.
Welcome aboard, we have cookies here Probably you should start with the CyanogenMod. It's good for starters, it's stable and has great features. You get nightly updates (updating once in a few weeks or in a month is fine). Then you can move on to other projects.
As you are new to the custom rom world, I would recommend you to have a fastboot flashable firmware for your device variant handy, just in case.
Guide to flash stock firmware - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3187750
Index thread for stock firmware images - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3169639
Guide to obtain root access (custom roms are usually pre-rooted) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3448572.
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Gravemind2015 said:
Welcome aboard, we have cookies here Probably you should start with the CyanogenMod. It's good for starters, it's stable and has great features. You get nightly updates (updating once in a few weeks or in a month is fine). Then you can move on to other projects.
As you are new to the custom rom world, I would recommend you to have a fastboot flashable firmware for your device variant handy, just in case.
Guide to flash stock firmware - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3187750
Index thread for stock firmware images - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3169639
Guide to obtain root access (custom roms are usually pre-rooted) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3448572.
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What do you recommend Cyanogen moto g 2015? After it has flashed I have to use another kernel? if so, what is the best?
I already have the 6.0.1 because of the touch screen bug. I have not the root, but do not know what benefits would result.
if I Root the phone what can I do?
Giovanni9921 said:
What do you recommend Cyanogen moto g 2015? After it has flashed I have to use another kernel? if so, what is the best?
I already have the 6.0.1 because of the touch screen bug. I have not the root, but do not know what benefits would result.
if I Root the phone what can I do?
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There's no need to flash a custom kernel, unless you feel like your device is lacking on performance and hardware features. I recommend you to try CM13 with the bundled kernel and when you get the hang of it you flash one.
P.S: Custom ROMs have fixed the touchscreen issues
Henriquefeira said:
There's no need to flash a custom kernel, unless you feel like your device is lacking on performance and hardware features. I recommend you to try CM13 with the bundled kernel and when you get the hang of it you flash one.
P.S: Custom ROMs have fixed the touchscreen issues
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I saw that there is also the 14 (based on Android nougat) this better or at least the 13.1?
Sorry for my bad english, but i translate all with Google translate
Giovanni9921 said:
I saw that there is also the 14 (based on Android nougat) this better or at least the 13.1?
Sorry for my bad english, but i translate all with Google translate
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Haven't tested CM14.1 yet
Giovanni9921 said:
What do you recommend Cyanogen moto g 2015? After it has flashed I have to use another kernel? if so, what is the best?
I already have the 6.0.1 because of the touch screen bug. I have not the root, but do not know what benefits would result.
if I Root the phone what can I do?
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1. Custom roms include their own (custom) kernels so flashing standalone custom kernels is purely optional.
2. You can try both cm 13 and 14.1, cm 13 is the marshmallow release and 14.1 is nougat one. Even being new, cm 14.1 is stable so no worries here.
3. About root on android - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooting_(Android_OS)
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/236/what-does-to-root-a-phone-mean
http://m.androidcentral.com/what-does-rooting-your-phone-actually-mean
http://www.androidcentral.com/root
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Gravemind2015 said:
1. Custom roms include their own (custom) kernels so flashing standalone custom kernels is purely optional.
2. You can try both cm 13 and 14.1, cm 13 is the marshmallow release and 14.1 is nougat one. Even being new, cm 14.1 is stable so no worries here.
3. About root on android - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooting_(Android_OS)
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/236/what-does-to-root-a-phone-mean
http://m.androidcentral.com/what-does-rooting-your-phone-actually-mean
http://www.androidcentral.com/root
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OK thanks. I saw that the motion g 2015 the 14.1 nightly on the cyano official website and here on xda that developed by alberto 97.
Which one should I download?
I would like the style options OP3, with much options and other tools.
Giovanni9921 said:
OK thanks. I saw that the motion g 2015 the 14.1 nightly on the cyano official website and here on xda that developed by alberto 97.
Which one should I download?
I would like the style options OP3, with much options and other tools.
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You can use the latest CM 14.1 nightly. For even greater customizability, use roms like Resurrection Remix, Zephyr OS or AICP. Note that nougat is still a WIP, so you may want to stick to the marshmallow releases for a while.
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Gravemind2015 said:
You can use the latest CM 14.1 nightly. For even greater customizability, use roms like Resurrection Remix, Zephyr OS or AICP. Note that nougat is still a WIP, so you may want to stick to the marshmallow releases for a while.
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Yes, i know it. Thx much.
If i have another questions can i edit this post?
Giovanni9921 said:
Yes, i know it. Thx much.
If i have another questions can i edit this post?
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You can create a new reply with your question, no issues
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Im currently on stock 6.x but my phone is getting pretty full and bugs out sometimes so I think its about time I do a fresh flash.
Is it possible to do a nandroid backup to a NAS server? A 64GB nandroid backup to a already full phone is kind of hard.
Next, I can either go 6.x or 7.x
7's notification style and doze battery life optimizations seems nice. Automatic system updates using another partition also seem good but I imagine that can only be used on Pixel.
6.x I imagine though is more stable.
So which ROM?
I personally like Android nougat more than M. Also, i find it stable enough for daily driver. I have been switching between various Nougat ROMs to find out which i like more. I am finally settled with Cm 14.1 nightlies for now.
RESURRECTION REMIX [5.8.0]
Awesome ROM with tons of customization.
RazerSharp said:
RESURRECTION REMIX [5.8.0]
Awesome ROM with tons of customization.
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Resucrrection is way to bloated/heavy. Im sure our phone can take it but.
Looking for a Marshy? Sultans is your best bet. Simple. Stable. Clean. Reliable.
I tested almost all nougat roms. I'm stuck with legend right now, for me seems the most balanced and without serious bugs.
What about jgcaap's rom? Isn't it any good?
Official Nightly vs Jcaap vs Resurrection Remix, which is the best?
Thank you for threads like this - you can't ask in a particular ROM's thread about other ROMs... I tried the "unofficial" (CAF) 7.1.1 Ressurection Remix and I've had problems with the screen going black, doesn't mean anyone else will. So, I'm also looking for which 7.1.1 ROM to try next and want other's opinions because I just don't have time to try ALL of them myself, full wipe, install all the apps and data again, setup everything... For a day or two then on to the next over and over, but I do try to try at least a few.
The ONLY reason why I don't want 7.1.1 for certain right now is no Xposed for it yet. But, perhaps I can live without Xposed for a while as long as I have: root, adblock, privacy guard, profiles...
I'm thinking to try the "Official" 7.1.1 Resurrection Remix next? Opinions?
I recommend jgcaap's CM14.1. It's been very fast and stable with good battery life for me. He's also busy implementing Sultan's camera blobs, so camera quality is also going to be nice. Try it out for yourself, you won't regret it!
Which nougat ROM has the best battery life and the smartbar/fling navbar features?
I'm not giving up Xposed without that navbar LOL
Oh, didn't remember that Xposed isn't avalaible for 7.x yet.
Forget it. 6.x based ROMs then.
Any other NON CM based recommendations?
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Any other NON CM based recommendations?
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Purenexus
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Purenexus
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I'm having issues finding the ROM that works best for me too. I've had to resort to cm ROMs because I can't find an aosp based MM ROM that has the latest security patches. There's so few of them too . I'm currently on jgcaaps cm13 running lightning caf v50 color. Its pretty stable, but I can't for the life of me figure out why the darn thing bootloops immediately after setting selinux to enforcing. I've always set it to enforcing for security reasons in the past, and had no issues. Jgcaaps cm13 I think has the best camera hal of all the ROMs because its using color os. Not caf, sultan, or cyanogenmod (I don't even know how people consider cm hal usable).
For 7.1.1 I've tried some of the ROMs but they're missing way too many features IMO. The camera hal is one (most are using cm or caf, meh) the only 7.1.1 ROM I know of that possibly has color os hal is jgcaaps cm14. Another thing is xposed. I don't like to give google full permission over my entire system to record and do as they please, therefore I use microg. The only thing is to get micro g working, you need to have a ROM that either supports fake signatures in the developer options (ROM maintainer has to implement this, its not too hard) or an xposed module to force fake signatures. I haven't come across a single ROM here that has micro g support so I'm forced to use xposed. On top of that I use the xprivacy xposed module which is miles better at protecting your privacy than privacy guard or appops.
So yeah personally I think jgcaaps cm13 ROM is the best we have right now for MM roms. All the other MM ROMs haven't been updated with security patches in quite a while from my experience. If you don't use micro g or xposed then I would recommend jgcaaps cm14 for the color os hal, but I havent checked out his ROM in a while. I wish there was still some development on MM for our oneplus one because it seems I'm stuck between choosing discontinued MM ROMs for features + stability or actively maintained ROM with bugs + less features. I've been working on finding out how to merge security patches in to discontinued ROMs because of this. But I don't have much time in my life right now sadly.
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I haven't come across a single ROM here that has micro g support so I'm forced to use xposed.
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danieldmm's TugaPower ROM has microG support out of the box and there's no need to install it as a system app. HAL is still CM but it is updated very frequently (I think it supports delta OTA updates) and has latest security patches too. Had absolutely no bugs for me when I used it last time :good: