Im currently on stock 6.x but my phone is getting pretty full and bugs out sometimes so I think its about time I do a fresh flash.
Is it possible to do a nandroid backup to a NAS server? A 64GB nandroid backup to a already full phone is kind of hard.
Next, I can either go 6.x or 7.x
7's notification style and doze battery life optimizations seems nice. Automatic system updates using another partition also seem good but I imagine that can only be used on Pixel.
6.x I imagine though is more stable.
So which ROM?
I personally like Android nougat more than M. Also, i find it stable enough for daily driver. I have been switching between various Nougat ROMs to find out which i like more. I am finally settled with Cm 14.1 nightlies for now.
RESURRECTION REMIX [5.8.0]
Awesome ROM with tons of customization.
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RESURRECTION REMIX [5.8.0]
Awesome ROM with tons of customization.
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Resucrrection is way to bloated/heavy. Im sure our phone can take it but.
Looking for a Marshy? Sultans is your best bet. Simple. Stable. Clean. Reliable.
I tested almost all nougat roms. I'm stuck with legend right now, for me seems the most balanced and without serious bugs.
What about jgcaap's rom? Isn't it any good?
Official Nightly vs Jcaap vs Resurrection Remix, which is the best?
Thank you for threads like this - you can't ask in a particular ROM's thread about other ROMs... I tried the "unofficial" (CAF) 7.1.1 Ressurection Remix and I've had problems with the screen going black, doesn't mean anyone else will. So, I'm also looking for which 7.1.1 ROM to try next and want other's opinions because I just don't have time to try ALL of them myself, full wipe, install all the apps and data again, setup everything... For a day or two then on to the next over and over, but I do try to try at least a few.
The ONLY reason why I don't want 7.1.1 for certain right now is no Xposed for it yet. But, perhaps I can live without Xposed for a while as long as I have: root, adblock, privacy guard, profiles...
I'm thinking to try the "Official" 7.1.1 Resurrection Remix next? Opinions?
I recommend jgcaap's CM14.1. It's been very fast and stable with good battery life for me. He's also busy implementing Sultan's camera blobs, so camera quality is also going to be nice. Try it out for yourself, you won't regret it!
Which nougat ROM has the best battery life and the smartbar/fling navbar features?
I'm not giving up Xposed without that navbar LOL
Oh, didn't remember that Xposed isn't avalaible for 7.x yet.
Forget it. 6.x based ROMs then.
Any other NON CM based recommendations?
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I'm having issues finding the ROM that works best for me too. I've had to resort to cm ROMs because I can't find an aosp based MM ROM that has the latest security patches. There's so few of them too . I'm currently on jgcaaps cm13 running lightning caf v50 color. Its pretty stable, but I can't for the life of me figure out why the darn thing bootloops immediately after setting selinux to enforcing. I've always set it to enforcing for security reasons in the past, and had no issues. Jgcaaps cm13 I think has the best camera hal of all the ROMs because its using color os. Not caf, sultan, or cyanogenmod (I don't even know how people consider cm hal usable).
For 7.1.1 I've tried some of the ROMs but they're missing way too many features IMO. The camera hal is one (most are using cm or caf, meh) the only 7.1.1 ROM I know of that possibly has color os hal is jgcaaps cm14. Another thing is xposed. I don't like to give google full permission over my entire system to record and do as they please, therefore I use microg. The only thing is to get micro g working, you need to have a ROM that either supports fake signatures in the developer options (ROM maintainer has to implement this, its not too hard) or an xposed module to force fake signatures. I haven't come across a single ROM here that has micro g support so I'm forced to use xposed. On top of that I use the xprivacy xposed module which is miles better at protecting your privacy than privacy guard or appops.
So yeah personally I think jgcaaps cm13 ROM is the best we have right now for MM roms. All the other MM ROMs haven't been updated with security patches in quite a while from my experience. If you don't use micro g or xposed then I would recommend jgcaaps cm14 for the color os hal, but I havent checked out his ROM in a while. I wish there was still some development on MM for our oneplus one because it seems I'm stuck between choosing discontinued MM ROMs for features + stability or actively maintained ROM with bugs + less features. I've been working on finding out how to merge security patches in to discontinued ROMs because of this. But I don't have much time in my life right now sadly.
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I haven't come across a single ROM here that has micro g support so I'm forced to use xposed.
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danieldmm's TugaPower ROM has microG support out of the box and there's no need to install it as a system app. HAL is still CM but it is updated very frequently (I think it supports delta OTA updates) and has latest security patches too. Had absolutely no bugs for me when I used it last time :good:
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Hey guys, you who used stock 5.1 and custom ROMS that are having the latest Android version (5.1.1): what differences do you notice?
As we all know 5.1.1 is the latest version which fixes the memory leak, and Moto is still a version behind on 5.1.1: stock only is Android 5.1.
How would you compare stock to the latest Android version with the latest bugfixes and memory leak fix?
Would it be possible that Moto backported 5.1.1 fixes to stock 5.1?
Can a moderator edit "bases ROM's" to "5.1.1-based custom ROMS? I made a typo
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Hey guys, you who used stock 5.1 and custom ROMS that are having the latest Android version (5.1.1): what differences do you notice?
As we all know 5.1.1 is the latest version which fixes the memory leak, and Moto is still a version behind on 5.1.1: stock only is Android 5.1.
How would you compare stock to the latest Android version with the latest bugfixes and memory leak fix?
Would it be possible that Moto backported 5.1.1 fixes to stock 5.1?
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It is more a question of CM12.1 vs Stock ROM.
With the Stock Motorola Lollipop you have (at least in theory) a bug free ROM, it will work in every situation and scenarios.
Where with a custom ROM you will have more experimental features, a more tunable kernel and settings (that can either improve or break a ROM) and, to be honest, more support as they update almost every week where Motorola go very slow.
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It is more a question of CM12.1 vs Stock ROM.
With the Stock Motorola Lollipop you have (at least in theory) a bug free ROM, it will work in every situation and scenarios.
Where with a custom ROM you will have more experimental features, a more tunable kernel and settings (that can either improve or break a ROM) and, to be honest, more support as they update almost every week where Motorola go very slow.
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Yeah that's true. I was just wondering if the 5.1 version still has the memory leak which was resolved in 5.1.1. Also, CM12 based roms don't support notification tickers anymore, not even through Xposed so that's a bit pity too. But they do have features you can't find in stock or Xposed.
Just wondering which ROM gives the best performance, CM12 or optimized stock or just plain AOSP without any tweaks.
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Yeah that's true. I was just wondering if the 5.1 version still has the memory leak which was resolved in 5.1.1. Also, CM12 based roms don't support notification tickers anymore, not even through Xposed so that's a bit pity too. But they do have features you can't find in stock or Xposed.
Just wondering which ROM gives the best performance, CM12 or optimized stock or just plain AOSP without any tweaks.
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I can't say if Motorola fix the Memory issue or not. I can say too that some CM12.1 ROMs did have memory issues even at 5.1.1 but i think all are gone now.
About performance, a custom ROM for sure will bring you that. I'm not a big fan of motorola "optimizations" for our devices, in fact i would say they don't do at all.
It all depends really, you could get stock 5.1 with moggy kernel v12 which is very smooth being a linaro based kernel with other optimizations as well. (I was running that earlier today)
But you could also get a custom ROM such as blisspop. Which is very very poorly developed on our device.
A ROM that the developer uses as a daily driver is likely to be better than stock. However you'll find ROMs such as BlissPop where the developer does not run the ROM on our device and merely syncs with latest sources and uploads the builds without testing them first.
Those ROMs are likely to provide worse performance and definitely less stability than stock. Unless of course you flash a custom kernel over it, but then you've just got a sugar coated turd. And nobody wants a turd.
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It all depends really, you could get stock 5.1 with moggy kernel v12 which is very smooth being a linaro based kernel with other optimizations as well. (I was running that earlier today)
But you could also get a custom ROM such as blisspop. Which is very very poorly developed on our device.
A ROM that the developer uses as a daily driver is likely to be better than stock. However you'll find ROMs such as BlissPop where the developer does not run the ROM on our device and merely syncs with latest sources and uploads the builds without testing them first.
Those ROMs are likely to provide worse performance and definitely less stability than stock. Unless of course you flash a custom kernel over it, but then you've just got a sugar coated turd. And nobody wants a turd.
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YEs that is true, also there are some ROMs that are much more experimental then stable.
So a research would be need.
That being said, stock is always the safest bet but a nice custom ROM will be superior if he find one.
I'm personally very happy with Euphoria and the R35 version of the Optimus Kernel.
But you (@Sparubens ) would need to flash all the roms to find the one who fit you better, stock and non stock
It's worth considering the difference in Battery-life of Stock Firmware / ROMs in comparison to non-Stock custom ROMs. That could be an interesting thread.
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YEs that is true, also there are some ROMs that are much more experimental then stable.
So a research would be need.
That being said, stock is always the safest bet but a nice custom ROM will be superior if he find one.
I'm personally very happy with Euphoria and the R35 version of the Optimus Kernel.
But you (@Sparubens ) would need to flash all the roms to find the one who fit you better, stock and non stock
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I did flash almost every ROM here but there always seems to be an issue:
-CM12.1 is stable and fast, but doesn't have 4 tiles per row option in QS Settings and doesn't support notification ticker anymore (Xposed), SaberMod is smooth (Beeto) but there's a bug where you can't access SuperSU without dialing a code
- SlimROM wasn't a good experience when trying it to use as daily driver, sluggish and bad multitasking
- CM12.1 based ROMS like CrDroid and Euphoria I do really like, have some bugs like screen pinning causing reboot (CrDroid) and also no real Xposed support for CrDroid and Euphoria doesn't register all touches on the keyboard and makes my phone a bit hot, otherwise I would be very happy to have it as a daily driver, AICP was running okayish but there's been a bug for over a month that when opening the data quick menu, the percentage is misaligned, and it still hasn't been fixed.
- Stock 5.1 is nice, but it's a version behind 5.1.1 so that's not very nice either. Also heavily lacking in options, but I can use Xposed. Also there are 2 carrier labels on the lockscreen which makes no sense at all..
Also, in custom ROMS the torch doesn't seem to be functioning fully, the light density is not at it fullest. Sadly there seem to be some quirks with every ROM.
I'm ready to make compromises and have a ROM as daily driver which doesn't support notification ticker (basically all of them atm) but then there's also the torch issue sadly which pushes me more back to stock. But then again, nobody knows if stock still has the memory leak and opinions have been very different from person to person about stock 5.1.
Some interesting opinions over here, keep 'em coming!
@lost101 I personally think that there's no custom ROM that can match the battery life of stock, it has been impressive, surely on Lollipop.
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Also, in custom ROMS the torch doesn't seem to be functioning fully, the light density is not at it fullest.
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A solution for this problem seems not to be far away
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62028617&postcount=155
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I did flash almost every ROM here but there always seems to be an issue:
-CM12.1 is stable and fast, but doesn't have 4 tiles per row option in QS Settings and doesn't support notification ticker anymore (Xposed), SaberMod is smooth (Beeto) but there's a bug where you can't access SuperSU without dialing a code
- SlimROM wasn't a good experience when trying it to use as daily driver, sluggish and bad multitasking
- CM12.1 based ROMS like CrDroid and Euphoria I do really like, have some bugs like screen pinning causing reboot (CrDroid) and also no real Xposed support for CrDroid and Euphoria doesn't register all touches on the keyboard and makes my phone a bit hot, otherwise I would be very happy to have it as a daily driver, AICP was running okayish but there's been a bug for over a month that when opening the data quick menu, the percentage is misaligned, and it still hasn't been fixed.
- Stock 5.1 is nice, but it's a version behind 5.1.1 so that's not very nice either. Also heavily lacking in options, but I can use Xposed. Also there are 2 carrier labels on the lockscreen which makes no sense at all..
Also, in custom ROMS the torch doesn't seem to be functioning fully, the light density is not at it fullest. Sadly there seem to be some quirks with every ROM.
I'm ready to make compromises and have a ROM as daily driver which doesn't support notification ticker (basically all of them atm) but then there's also the torch issue sadly which pushes me more back to stock. But then again, nobody knows if stock still has the memory leak and opinions have been very different from person to person about stock 5.1.
Some interesting opinions over here, keep 'em coming!
@lost101 I personally think that there's no custom ROM that can match the battery life of stock, it has been impressive, surely on Lollipop.
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That's why we have a lot of roms outthere, everyone can choose what match better with everyone, if you want something without issues choose stock, but don't have the optimizations options, if you prefer the options, choose the one you consider is better, but always have to sacrifice something
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I realize that this is not the first topic to ask for custom ROM advice, and that the general advice is "try some and pick the one you like best". This thread is different in that I am specifically looking for a stable custom ROM. I was surprised to find out that LineageOS does not offer any stable builds for our device, nor does AOKP; they both only offer nightlies. Are there alternatives that do offer stable builds?
You can try Ressurection Remix. I used it last month and its pretty stable. Also this ROM recently (22.12.17) got update.
Also have great customization options too!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/development/rom-resurrection-remix-n-5-8-2-t3587204
But if you want good Oreo 8.1 Rom then I suggest crDroid. I use it now and i am satisfied with it. Only flaw that i cant get Magisk root to work. (also recent update 21.12.2017)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/development/rom-crdroid-android-4-0-t3696388
Nothing is as stable as stock.
I am specifically looking for a stable custom ROM
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me too Nougat will be preferable, so maybe someone with experience will say something, now I am on stable STOCK
do you want a 7.1.1 build (probably CM/Lineage 14.1) or Oreo (probably new aospex https://forum.xda-developers.com/20...xtended-rom-v5-0-t3681997/page53#post75051303 but camcorder not work in 8.x builds have to use footej or cameraFi2.) Holler if you need more pointers. LinOS 15.x is not supported at the moment even though the thread is there.
look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/pursuing-8-1-osprey-moto-g-2015-t3718416 for pointers to 3 other 8.x builds.
You can try this - Ressurection remix, very stable Nougat 7.1.2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/development/rom-resurrection-remix-n-5-8-2-t3587204
Resurrection Remix is not stable - according to the topic you link to, it's Beta
If Oreo roms do not have full functionality, then I'll have to stick to Nougat!
yep.
I have been running nightlies (12/15 and updated to the 12/29 yesterday just because I was messing with something) on Lineage OS 14.1, and as far as I'm concerned, it seems as stable as a CM 'snapshot'. This is my primary phone, and I haven't had a random reboot, or any issues to speak of like I was used to with older ROMs on previous phones. I've been on it for a few weeks, finally decided it was time to unlock the bootloader and get off of the stock ROM, since the device is well past the stock OTA window.
If you recall on CM, "stable" releases were pretty rare and usually came out well after the next android version was already released. I'm planning to update maybe once a month, I don't see the need to jump on every nightly, but occasionally something interesting gets added to an update.
I've been testing some Oreo ROMs and most are not that stable and reboots randomly... So it would be great if anyone know any stable 8.1 daily driver for osprey.
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I've been testing some Oreo ROMs and most are not that stable and reboots randomly... So it would be great if anyone know any stable 8.1 daily driver for osprey.
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Presently there is no daily driver oreo rom available for osprey..
Every Oreo Rom has some positive & negative points now..
Better to stick with any Nougat Rom for now if you wanted to use as daily driver...
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Presently there is no daily driver oreo rom available for osprey..
Every Oreo Rom has some positive & negative points now..
Better to stick with any Nougat Rom for now if you wanted to use as daily driver...
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Well I'm fine as long as the bugs aren't major ones such as reboots, missing Android settings, etc.
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Well I'm fine as long as the bugs aren't major ones such as reboots, missing Android settings, etc.
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Aex 5.1 or Cypher os 5.1 for Customization..
Aosp 8.1 / los 15.1 for clean aosp Rom..
Pixel experience for pixel Feel..
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I've been testing some Oreo ROMs and most are not that stable and reboots randomly... So it would be great if anyone know any stable 8.1 daily driver for osprey.
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My choice would be Alberto97's AOSP 8.1 . It's what I use for a daily when I'm not testing.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/20...pment/rom-android-source-project-8-0-t3709129
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My choice would be Alberto97's AOSP 8.1 . It's what I use for a daily when I'm not testing.
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The thing is with that ROM is that Permissive mode is buggy or not working which is a problem as I use audio mods that requires that mode. Currently I am running Pixel Experience 8.1 and noticed battery drain and lag in the lock screen and home screen, for example when dragging the app drawer (Moto g 2015 xt1540 8GB). I was thinking about switching to the Go edition but if you have any other suggestions I would be happy to test it out as soon as I got my internet connection back.
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The thing is with that ROM is that Permissive mode is buggy or not working which is a problem as I use audio mods that requires that mode. Currently I am running Pixel Experience 8.1 and noticed battery drain and lag in the lock screen and home screen, for example when dragging the app drawer (Moto g 2015 xt1540 8GB). I was thinking about switching to the Go edition but if you have any other suggestions I would be happy to test it out as soon as I got my internet connection back.
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Yes, you quickly run out of ROM suggestions and all of these very early ROMs have their shortcomings. I understood that permissive worked on this one - I know it does not on the 64 bit version yet. I guess I don't use it so don't notice. Audio I get from my sound bar in front of my TV - LOL - my phone even pairs with it!! - more LOL(LG something). I have always gotten great sound from the G3 simply by pairing my ancient MotoRokr S9-HD - fantastic sound!!! But, yes, you really have to try them all one by one and see what limitations you are willing to put up with.
But again, they are VERY early, yet. I suspect we'll have much more in another month or 2. Amazing when you think of this little G3 being 2 years old and getting all this!!!!!!! And I bet in another year we'll be playing with Pez! Amazing what Devs can do with google sources!!!
Same Here Tried many ROMS including lineage os 15.1 Alberto 97 AOSP and AOSP Extended 5.1 the only one which sucessfully booted was lineage os 15.1 .The rest bricked and boot-looped my phone so I went back to lineage 14.1 did anyone have similar experiences ?. I Then Sucessfully Flashed Lineage 15.1 and now everything is perfect it feels so good to have Stock Android 8.1.
Right now probably Aosp extended 5.2 it's a android 8.1 based rom and is very stable the only issue I've had is finding the correct gapps as they are not officially available.
Well, I have owned my XT1625 for one year and four months. After countless runs with both custom Nougat and Oreo ROMs I am back on rooted stock (December -13 version) with ElementalX kernel. To put it simply, everything just works. Period. No issues with the camera or GPS. Performance is great and battery life is as good or better than any custom ROM I have tried bar none.
Guess the grass isn't always greener.
I've had a similar experience with the June, September and December 2017 stock Motorola ROMs. I've found the rooted stock ROM to be quick, and with the ElementalX kernel/EX Kernel Manager, I can tune the CPU down to not run as hot (1344 MHz or 1094 MHz/1209 MHz ) magisk 15.3 runs invisibly and stably too.
Whilst it would be nice for ElementalX to be updated to the Sept 2017 kernel code, it still runs well, and the only thing I miss - themes - is hopefully coming in the Oreo update with Substratum/Andromeda support
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themes - is hopefully coming in the Oreo update with Substratum/Andromeda support
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Still you can use with substratum legacy support, it makes no difference than installing in system. Right?
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I've had a similar experience with the June, September and December 2017 stock Motorola ROMs. I've found the rooted stock ROM to be quick, and with the ElementalX kernel/EX Kernel Manager, I can tune the CPU down to not run as hot (1344 MHz or 1094 MHz/1209 MHz ) magisk 15.3 runs invisibly and stably too.
Whilst it would be nice for ElementalX to be updated to the Sept 2017 kernel code, it still runs well, and the only thing I miss - themes - is hopefully coming in the Oreo update with Substratum/Andromeda support
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True that echo92! There are several other little tweaks to the UI and bars that I miss (advanced boot for one). But I enjoy being able to use my GPS or take a pic/video without it crashing. I truly hope we do see an stock Oreo update. But even if we don't I am content to stay on my current setup until I replace my phone.
I had my time with CM and Lineage ROMs but if someone wants stability and functionality the only option is the stock.
Root as noted above.
I'm on December patch but with September modem, with December my phone remains in 3G on closed builds.
Now I'm with 4G all day.
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I've had a similar experience with the June, September and December 2017 stock Motorola ROMs. I've found the rooted stock ROM to be quick, and with the ElementalX kernel/EX Kernel Manager, I can tune the CPU down to not run as hot (1344 MHz or 1094 MHz/1209 MHz ) magisk 15.3 runs invisibly and stably too.
Whilst it would be nice for ElementalX to be updated to the Sept 2017 kernel code, it still runs well, and the only thing I miss - themes - is hopefully coming in the Oreo update with Substratum/Andromeda support
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Could you please link me how you rooted and installed Magisk? I've tried few times but magisk was a major issue... and I had to install a different "su" app, otherwise bootlooplooplooploop...
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Could you please link me how you rooted and installed Magisk? I've tried few times but magisk was a major issue... and I had to install a different "su" app, otherwise bootlooplooplooploop...
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To flash magisk on stock I think you need a custom kernel like ElementalX. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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To flash magisk on stock I think you need a custom kernel like ElementalX. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yup. only "stable" way to root is by flashing a different kernel.
Also came back full circle and agree that it's sadly the only way to get a fully functional phone. Additional features can be added through xposed but it breaks some vital apps for me. So it's #Stock+Root all the way for me.
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Could you please link me how you rooted and installed Magisk? I've tried few times but magisk was a major issue... and I had to install a different "su" app, otherwise bootlooplooplooploop...
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As DECHTECH and halifage have mentioned, you need a custom kernel or a reliable way to disable DM verity on the stock kernel to flash magisk. Else, if you try to flash magisk onto an unmodified stock Motorola kernel, you'll trip the anti rooting protections and cause a bootloop.
The straightforward way is to flash ElementalX v 1.04 kernel in TWRP (or the vegito kernel) before flashing magisk or SuperSU. Here's a general procedure if you want a guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72496111&postcount=270. It is a bit old, but the general steps have worked on stock ROMs up to December 2017 in my experience. Of course, if you've already unlocked, no need to do it again
I don't know if you could use magisk (at least v14/15) to patch the stock boot kernel to remove DM verity, and so be able to root on a modified stock kernel, something to try. However, ElementalX and vegito give you plenty of options to tune your device if you do wish to, which the stock kernel may not provide. As always before flashing anything, make a backup in TWRP.
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As DECHTECH and halifage have mentioned, you need a custom kernel or a reliable way to disable DM verity on the stock kernel to flash magisk. Else, if you try to flash magisk onto an unmodified stock Motorola kernel, you'll trip the anti rooting protections and cause a bootloop.
The straightforward way is to flash ElementalX v 1.04 kernel in TWRP (or the vegito kernel) before flashing magisk or SuperSU. Here's a general procedure if you want a guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72496111&postcount=270. It is a bit old, but the general steps have worked on stock ROMs up to December 2017 in my experience. Of course, if you've already unlocked, no need to do it again
I don't know if you could use magisk (at least v14/15) to patch the stock boot kernel to remove DM verity, and so be able to root on a modified stock kernel, something to try. However, ElementalX and vegito give you plenty of options to tune your device if you do wish to, which the stock kernel may not provide. As always before flashing anything, make a backup in TWRP.
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Ok, thanks a lot.
I've unlocked, but when the update stock come out in December I put everything back to stock wit locked bootloader.
Now I suppose I would loose all my data...
I think this thread is answering my question, but I just got an XT1625 (non-Amazon) with Marshmallow on it. As soon as I fired it up, I had the OTA update notification for Nougat. Rather than upgrading, I just went ahead and unlocked and rooted because it seemed much easier on 6 than 7. Sounds like this may have been the right call, but am I missing out on anything by keeping MM?
For everyone who is reverting to stock due to issues on custom ROMs: I'm currently running AICP Nougat paired with the Vegito Kernel and rooted, but I have ZERO bugs, the ROM is super smooth and battery life is awesome. Everything seems to just work.
I ponder as to what issues people have on custom roms. Oreo has some issues but most nougat LOS and AOSP based ROMS work fine without small issues, at least for me on my XT1642.
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For everyone who is reverting to stock due to issues on custom ROMs: I'm currently running AICP Nougat paired with the Vegito Kernel and rooted, but I have ZERO bugs, the ROM is super smooth and battery life is awesome. Everything seems to just work.
I ponder as to what issues people have on custom roms. Oreo has some issues but most nougat LOS and AOSP based ROMS work fine without small issues, at least for me on my XT1642.
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My main issue with the custom ROMS is battery life. I ran AICP for a couple of months and it was one of the most stable. But stock still provides me better battery life. The issues I have had with various Nougat Custom ROMs are related to performance when gaming, cameras not working 100%, losing access to some of the apps I run, and, as mentioned, battery life. Not all of them have all of these issues but they all have at least one. Since I can get the access to all of my apps and what I want to customize and modify through my current setup as well as the best battery life I will stick to it.
As I said in my initial post, it is not a decision I made lightly. Only after trying almost every custom Nougat ROM and 3 different Oreo ROMs did I come back to Stock. It was a 16 month journey. In all fairness, in the beginning I got better battery life on the custom ROMs. But that is not the case with the latest available stock.
In comparison, on my Samsung T813 Galaxy S2 Tablet, the custom ROM I use blows stock out of the water with all features.
CM14.1 builds had better battery life compared to LineageOS and Oreo based custom roms. That's what I observed over more then one year.
Proof: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4Zy8uoEfFKLLXF4VkVJNHlOdTQ that was cm-14.1-20161224-NIGHTLY-athene.zip
strongst said:
CM14.1 builds had better battery life compared to LineageOS and Oreo based custom roms. That's what I observed over more then one year.
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Which makes no sense because Lineage was based on CM wasn't it? And CM is no more.
pastorbob62 said:
Which makes no sense because Lineage was based on CM wasn't it? And CM is no more.
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Sure I know that lineage was based on cm, but why could be cm not be better in terms of battery life? Only why cm is dead?
I only posted this to make clear that not every evolution of software is good(here in terms of battery life).
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Sure I know that lineage was based on cm, but why could be cm not be better in terms of battery life? Only why cm is dead?
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It could be better than Lineage and Oreo based ROMs. I just don't think it is better than the current setup I am now running. What is the latest version of CM currently available? Late 2016. In my book that makes it dead for newer devices. The code in Lineage is essentially CM and any pure CM is outdated as far as security and features.
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I only posted this to make clear that not every evolution of software is good(here in terms of battery life).
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True. But I have seen no proof that CM battery life is better than what I am now getting now with the latest stock/ElementalX setup. In fact I do not recall ever getting better than about 1.8% drain per hour overall with CM. I am currently getting 1.1% drain per hour overall.
Also, I can't access your link because I don't have the permissions.
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It could be better than Lineage and Oreo based ROMs. I just don't think it is better than the current setup I am now running. What is the latest version of CM currently available? Late 2016. In my book that makes it dead for newer devices. The code in Lineage is essentially CM and any pure CM is outdated as far as security and features.
True. But I have seen no proof that CM battery life is better than what I am now getting now with the latest stock/ElementalX setup. In fact I do not recall ever getting better than about 1.8% drain per hour overall with CM. I am currently getting 1.1% drain per hour overall.
Also, I can't access your link because I don't have the permissions.
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Sorry: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4Zy8uoEfFKLLXF4VkVJNHlOdTQ
Latest version is the one I posted above. I know your setup and usage behavior is different. But for my setup and usage behavior good old cm14.1 was better then everything today and also stock nougat for example. That it's outdated is known and i don't advertise to install cm14.1 anymore :good:
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Sorry: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4Zy8uoEfFKLLXF4VkVJNHlOdTQ
Latest version is the one I posted above. I know your setup and usage behavior is different. But for my setup and usage behavior good old cm14.1 was better then everything today and also stock nougat for example. That it's outdated is known and i don't advertise to install cm14.1 anymore :good:
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:good::good::good::good::good:
Just got a spare Z3, and since this device has been quite inactive on developments and such, the most preferred route is to stay stock for stability.
Now, I looked on our Android Development section and there seems to have a couple of stock-based ROMs which are good, and now, even in 2018, I was wondering what stock-based ROMs you guys are still using?
Any bias comments are welcome as long as it's spoken through experience. Also, a combination of Stock-based ROM a Custom Kernel would be nice to hear as well, if you use those.
Thanks guys for noticing~
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Ever heard of OFFICIALLY supported
I use carbon Rom. It's supported officially.
And TWRP 3.2.1.0
Use gapps or mindthegapps
Updated weekly before. Now it's monthly.
No bugs, stable!!
0 problems in 2018
With that firmware & hardware
Stefan.xda said:
I use carbon Rom. It's supported officially.
And TWRP 3.2.1.0
Use gapps or mindthegapps
Updated weekly before. Now it's monthly.
No bugs, stable!!
0 problems in 2018
With that firmware & hardware
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Any ways to use cyberian camera on carbon oreo? Right now im using existenz on my z3c, everything is ok and it has tones of customizations i can recommend for z3 too. But the best rom for battery is still slimm rom. Whatever lets turn back to my question, only because it is not possible use cyberian cam on carbon oreo i will go for carbon nougat with xperia ui. Can you share your experience with snapdragon camera if you use oreo version?
i have djust used the default camera app that came preinstalled with the rom. as 3rd party apps arent as good as stock. And its really good enough.
and i dont like to use outdated roms still on 6.0 M
im a crazy chronic updater.
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Any ways to use cyberian camera on carbon oreo? Right now im using existenz on my z3c, everything is ok and it has tones of customizations i can recommend for z3 too. But the best rom for battery is still slimm rom. Whatever lets turn back to my question, only because it is not possible use cyberian cam on carbon oreo i will go for carbon nougat with xperia ui. Can you share your experience with snapdragon camera if you use oreo version?
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search in the Carbon or Omni Thread, someone posted magisk Modules for this
There should also be a guide in there for (regular) flashing this.
Antiallergiker said:
search in the Carbon or Omni Thread, someone posted magisk Modules for this
There should also be a guide in there for (regular) flashing this.
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I can do whatever you want if you can find that page im looking for it for 3 months i beg you
Ömer said:
I can do whatever you want if you can find that page im looking for it for 3 months i beg you
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I uploaded all Modules, the original ones got deleted.
Here ya go: https://www110.zippyshare.com/v/Tax6KimL/file.html
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