Touch input issues in Tegra games - Shield Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So far I've noticed this with two games, Bladeslinger and Granny Smith.
The game loads, but touch input does nothing. These two games work fine with the stock software for my shield (update 4.4), but under Bliss or Dirty Unicorns they don't respond to touch input.
I thought this might be because my GPU or CPU wasn't being detected correctly, so I tried this guide (http://gamin9.blogspot.com/2014/09/how-to-play-tegra-games-on-non-tegra.html) for running Tegra games on a non-Tegra device. Struck out there.
I would appreciate any help with getting these two games working with Bliss on my tablet. It's so much faster overall, and the battery life is better too. I did switch back to stock for a while, but the battery drain wasn't worth being able to play two more games than i could with Bliss. The developers of those games can't help; Bladeslinger's developer doesn't respond to email, and Granny Smith's only offered me a refund. So much for fixing a bug...
I notice Plague Inc has a tendency to freeze under Bliss or DU, which also doesn't happen with stock. Not sure if that's relevant or not.

I just tried flashing the NVIDIA blobs, but it caused too many problems so I had to undo it. Didn't seem to fix these games either.

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Why so sloooow?

I loaded up the game slotomania on my new TF700 and it plays very slow. The wheels spin at least %50 slower than they normally do on my SGS2 phone. Now given the hardware this tablet has, I would have expected better. Even in performance mode the game still lags terribly. Maybe it's programming or probably moreso this version of ICS just doesn't seem well optimized for this tablet. Other games I have tried seem ok so far.
Has anyone else found a game or app that runs slow on the TF700?
Rob

Gamming on TF700

Good Morning all.
I bought the TF700 to try gaming on a full HD tregra 3 device, and what better tablet than this one. I knew ahead of time that the resolution and dpi was going to pull gaming down a bit.
I downloaded Horn yesterday and played a few hours, and overall the game is great, but it lags noticeably. In many places the fps look very low and goes beyond my confort. I mainly use this tablet to read and its my overall media device.
What do you guys think. Is there anything I can do to improve gaming? I'm a bit jealous because the nexus 7 and HOX guys are all saying how good it is in their devices. But I really like this tablet and want to keep it.
Any input would be great guys, thaks.
PS. I'm full stock, havent messed with it yet.
rcarbal said:
Good Morning all.
I bought the TF700 to try gaming on a full HD tregra 3 device, and what better tablet than this one. I knew ahead of time that the resolution and dpi was going to pull gaming down a bit.
I downloaded Horn yesterday and played a few hours, and overall the game is great, but it lags noticeably. In many places the fps look very low and goes beyond my confort. I mainly use this tablet to read and its my overall media device.
What do you guys think. Is there anything I can do to improve gaming? I'm a bit jealous because the nexus 7 and HOX guys are all saying how good it is in their devices. But I really like this tablet and want to keep it.
Any input would be great guys, thaks.
PS. I'm full stock, havent messed with it yet.
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Try rooting and debloating...
... we will need to get more custom ROM work going, ASUS stock is just a mish-mosh of dirty hax and yucky code.
rcarbal said:
Good Morning all.
I bought the TF700 to try gaming on a full HD tregra 3 device, and what better tablet than this one. I knew ahead of time that the resolution and dpi was going to pull gaming down a bit.
I downloaded Horn yesterday and played a few hours, and overall the game is great, but it lags noticeably. In many places the fps look very low and goes beyond my confort. I mainly use this tablet to read and its my overall media device.
What do you guys think. Is there anything I can do to improve gaming? I'm a bit jealous because the nexus 7 and HOX guys are all saying how good it is in their devices. But I really like this tablet and want to keep it.
Any input would be great guys, thaks.
PS. I'm full stock, havent messed with it yet.
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I don't know about that game at all. You could try force 2d rendering in the developers section of settings. May help with lag, other than trying performance setting.
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I don't know about that game at all. You could try force 2d rendering in the developers section of settings. May help with lag, other than trying performance setting.
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It just came out yesterday, but it has not settings I can play with. Will sit tight for a while and see how far we can take this tablet. I will try root and debloat and go from there.
You can also install a program that allows you to change the cpu governor like SetCPU. When I have plenty of power I set it to performance for a smoother experience. Once we have an overclockable kernel I suspect this device will fly even moreso. They were able to get the T30L to 2 Ghz, our T33 might be pushed further than that
Plz dont trick people if you dont know.
Tegra3 's GPU is not powerful enough(only 12 cuba units......too weak...), in other words, Horn 's graph is the best we can have. Laggy is not a problem beccause of 1080p res.
There's nothing else we can do ,(BTW, overclocking is not working here)
We can wait for the next version of Horn which may lower some physic and shadow effects to improve the performance.
Are you sure your tablet is running in "performance" mode rather than the "balance" mode that it starts in on bootup?
I ran the game for hours flawlessly ...
I restarted it many times and it always boots in balance. I will try to chane it to boot in performance mode. Im sure theres and option for this. I'll update if all the above help.
oh, I always kill all tasks before palying high graphics games using asus task manager.
Thanks
Yea i get this lag too with the game. I used system tuner pro to set the CPUs to a solid 1.6 and still saw the lag or FPS drop.
So I purchased the game also, and the game would start to load and then music would play with a blank screen, then cut out.... anyone else having this problem???
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Is this game optimized for the screen resolution of the TF700? Anyone own a prime still that can compare how it runs on both systems? The extra resolution might be enough to cause some playing issues. Maybe the same issues are present in the lower resolution devices but it's harder to notice.
i will also test this game out with the tf300 my brother has. I want to know if tf700 can play it better because...ahem.. the devs of horn told ipad 2s and 3 people . "it's much easier on the tegra... nvidia really knows their physics.." and basically no can do, when they raged about tegra effects. So I wanted to know how this tablet would handle it. SO, ill keep trying.

How's the overall performance of this tablet?

The Prime had I/O issues and so did the TF300 (which I briefly owned). I read the Nexus 7 does as well. Every time I'm downloading torrents or even an app from the Play Store, the system would just be non-responsive. Or my browser would just give me errors saying App is Not Responding. Do you guys experience this on the Tf700? Is this an ICS problem or does it happen on JB as well?
situman said:
The Prime had I/O issues and so did the TF300 (which I briefly owned). I read the Nexus 7 does as well. Every time I'm downloading torrents or even an app from the Play Store, the system would just be non-responsive. Or my browser would just give me errors saying App is Not Responding. Do you guys experience this on the Tf700? Is this an ICS problem or does it happen on JB as well?
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Had very very few ANR's before JB..
Now they are nonexistent! Buttery smooth like Google promised! :good::good:
This seems to be more of an ICS problem. I have the TF300T, and when I upgraded to JB, a LOT of the unresponsiveness was taken care of. I am not saying that the TF300 performs just as well as the TF700, but JB makes a dramatical difference.
To be honest its pretty bad on my end. If i download a file (even at 250kb/sec) it gets so sluggy its not even usable. This is the only problem i have, too bad its a big one.
I do not use android devices to download torrents unless I have no intentions to use them soon. Apparently, it seems that Android does not handle large files nearly as well as PCs and Macs. I have an Of Evo, and the phone would not turn back on Irvine turn the screen off when I begin to download a torrent. I thought that this tablet would change the game completely, but it did not. Still a great device, but I am learning its limits slowly. (Don't be concerned., because it is not many. I just have an eye for some off these little things.)
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to be honest, i was pretty pissed off at the ICS version of this tablet. there were heaps of glowing reviews out there, but the truth was here on XDA, only i found out too late. i was getting ANRs, had a white-screen freeze/reboot, the webbrowsing in Chrome and stock were BRUTAL. was even getting occasional stutters playing music from the microSD card. and come on, opening and closing the app drawer should not be occasion for lag! luckily, i avoided the build quality issues that some were having, but i really thought this tablet was not ready for primetime.
and then the JB update happened.
again, to be honest, i wasn't expecting much. but for me, it's been a revelation -- with JB, the TF700 is what it should have been to begin with. smmmoooooth. fast. responsive. no funny business.
hoping that future minor updates will only improve it.
If you are downloading lots of torrents, you need a different tablet than the ASUS series, IMHO. After JB, it's a fantastic daily driver but the for I/O junkies the hardware will always have some limitation. For general streaming, apps, games, browsing, it is awesome but doing huge background downloads will always be suboptimal on this hardware. If that is your use model you want something else.
For downloading apps and updating stuff, JB seems to have improved things well enough that most basic users and lots of power users (including myself) are not going to bothered by it much if at all, but it will never be a screamer in the I/O dept.
zenaxe said:
If you are downloading lots of torrents, you need a different tablet than the ASUS series, IMHO. After JB, it's a fantastic daily driver but the for I/O junkies the hardware will always have some limitation. For general streaming, apps, games, browsing, it is awesome but doing huge background downloads will always be suboptimal on this hardware. If that is your use model you want something else.
For downloading apps and updating stuff, JB seems to have improved things well enough that most basic users and lots of power users (including myself) are not going to bothered by it much if at all, but it will never be a screamer in the I/O dept.
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Yes, I see that, and I can certainly agree. As I continue to learn more about different devices, I slowly filter out that device is ideal for which task. Unfortunately, not enough people see things my way, and expect one device to work as good as any other device in their home...but it doesn't work that way.
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situman said:
The Prime had I/O issues and so did the TF300 (which I briefly owned). I read the Nexus 7 does as well. Every time I'm downloading torrents or even an app from the Play Store, the system would just be non-responsive. Or my browser would just give me errors saying App is Not Responding. Do you guys experience this on the Tf700? Is this an ICS problem or does it happen on JB as well?
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I/O itself is what is it. It is set by hardware, which benchmark shows. Infinity's IO is not as bad as some believe according to my research. Iconia A700, or other android tablet has similar scores on benchmark. So it is how current generation of Android tablet are generally designed. Some tablet though used better IO component such as Galaxy Note 10.1. But it does not have Full HD. When price of unit is similar, manufacture has to decide what to include and where to save.
As far as the user experience end, initially when I got TF700 the day of release in US. I had application not responding, almost complete froze while application is downloading from Playstore. These have changed (even before Jellybean).
1. ANR - Honestly, I rarely have this now. May be once or twice a week? But key here now is interrupt i.e. clicking home button will instantly interrupt and take me back to home screen. So no true freezing. I even got freeze application on iPad 2 or on Galaxy Note 10.1 at least once or twice a week. So in this regard, Infinity is now pretty much as good as it can get.
2. System Non-responsiveness while download - This had also been vastly improved. I did a little testing with internal network 1GB+ download in background, and launched Final Fantasy 3. No lag or delay. However, if I do the same with Horn it basically becomes non-playable. So depending on what you want to do, the issue may or may not be noticeable.
3. System lag while application install - This is still there. Though not to the point system complete froze, but stuttering and lag becomes noticeable. Though this is true even on my desktop sometimes, and I don't think iPad would even allow you to install application while you run other application. So I am ok.
So overall, I think what we attribute things to as IO issue is essentially resolved to the point it can be. If there is any option, Galaxy Note 10.1 may be only one it may perform better in this regard. So you have to list your priority as others say.
Yea just picked up a Note 10.1 and the performance is night and day versus the Prime that I had. It takes multi task to a whole new level and I mean really intense multi tasking such as downloading huge files and hardly a blip. Though the screen leaves something to be desired, its a good performance trade off.

[Q] Unexplainable Lag in light games

Hello everyone,
I have had my HTC One S since december 2013 and it's really an upgrade to my old Galaxy S Advance, though there is one thing that's bothering me. The lag. Yes. I really don't know why, but my HTC One S lags in the simplest games. When in Flappy Bird, the event where Flappy heads down again creates a slight stuttering resulting in me hitting pipes. My HTC outstands my S Advance in all aspects, though on my Samsung, this lag is not happening.
In Monkey Flight, also a very simple 2D game, lag is occurring as well. I recently installed "Bouncing Slime", which also suffers from the same kind of "falling lag" (when you jump and you start falling down again). I have absolutely no clue why this is happening, because my HTC handles games like Injustice or Riptide GP2 just fine.
I suspected some time the lag was created by the ads in a game when the game is loaded, though it occurs also when my phone is offline. I really don't have a clue. Also, my Beats audio is turned off as I never play with headphones (I read somewhere Beats Audio causes lag).
Technical information:
HTC One S: 4.1.2 | European radio
Everything is as closed as it can be. Not rooted and no bootloader stuff. I'm fully stock.
If anyone knows what's wrong, please let me know. This truly affects my experience with this phone.
(I am fine with rooting the phone btw, as long as I don't touch my bootloader)
Thanks in advance,
Anthe
I case of Flappy Bird everbody on every device have a lag. Even on Galaxy S4 there is a lag. It's not you device it's your system. I'm on cm11 and it work's great. Even with high end game.

[Q] Dead GPU?

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I noticed in the tricktermod app, the gpu was being reported as 0mhz (not sure if this is becuase its idle)
So I decided to flash back to the factory image HRI39 (honeycomb) to see if I could get any performance improvements
and i must say, its still incredibly sluggish and choppy. I'm almost conviced the GPU is dead or not being used at all...
Any advice or things to test? I have linux/windows and by far no means a noob of any sort, just not sure what I can do from this point or if im SOL.
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I have a stingray (4g) xoom, this is my second one. First one (wingray) I returned after a week when it first came out (for a laptop)
I bought this one off swappa because I still feel its the sturdiest tablet and the bootloader can be unlocked
I remember installing EOS, tiamat, dualbooting with backtrack ...etc tablet was always snappy and fast
The one I have now seems to be sluggish. Stock, Bigpart, CM this CM that... honestly the only time I even saw what could have been the performance I remember was when i brought it all the way back to honeycomb lol
The sluggish I'm referring to is a delay in response, hanging, no capacitive response from screen, low frame rates in games like plants vs zombies when you finish a wave.
I've tried overclocking, under clocking (you never know), a few kernels, 9001% stock.. same symptoms.
I've gotten curious if maybe the unit is defective...
Does anyone have any advice or a rom/kernal they are using that is smooth like butter. doesn't have to be the latest and greatest android. hell I prefer the releases before 4.3 with the tablet UI
thanks
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