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aroma and google apps

am flashing synergyrom v443. there is an option in aroma to flash lots of apks is there a benefit installing the google apps in aroma vs manually flashing gapps or installing from android playstore after flashing the rom?
what about using titanium to convert apps to a system app? any difference? any benefit to converting apps to system using titanium?
thanks
mark

markkal123 said:
am flashing synergyrom v443. there is an option in aroma to flash lots of apks is there a benefit installing the google apps in aroma vs manually flashing gapps or installing from android playstore after flashing the rom? what about using titanium to convert them to a system app? any difference? any benefit to converting apps to system using titanium?
thanks
mark
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Aroma will give you more customization options then just flashing the whole Google Apps package (Say you didn't want Gmail in AROMA you could choose not to install gmail) but other then custimization, there is not difference between using AROMA and just flashing the whole Google apps package. The latest Google apps package for 4.2.2 is essentially just the Google framework service, the Play Store, and other Google services that can't be downloaded directly form the Play Store. The advantage to using the Play Store to installing apps like Youtube, Gmail and others is that the Play Store will automatically update the apps for you. There is no need to convert the apps like Youtube, Gmail, and other Google apps like that to system apps using Titanium Backup. The ones that need to be system apps to function properly will automatically be converted to system apps when you use AROMA or flash the Google Apps Package.

Fair question. As far as I know, the AROMA options are for convenience. You could for example install Titanium without needing data to connect to Google Play. But they both do the same thing.
Using Titanium to convert apps to system apps is a viable method. But I'd only recommend doing so if it's necessary. Installing in /system would save apps (like Cerberus anti theft) from being wiped in a /data factory reset. However, you may have unpredictable results if you start installing apps in there willy-nilly.
Hope this info helps. GL
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[Q] Installing play store without gapps ??

hello , is there anyway to install play store on cm10.1 without installing gapps ??
i used to install the apk and it always ran fine ( v 4.0.26 or 27 smth like that ) but since the lates few updates it always crashes
i tried to push the apk into the system but also it crashes
this happnes to me with cm10 , cm10.1 ( nearly all roms )
or is there a way to remove all the things that i dont need from the gapps zip file and then install it ? , i tried to do it but failed miserably

aymanzz said:
hello , is there anyway to install play store on cm10.1 without installing gapps ??
i used to install the apk and it always ran fine ( v 4.0.26 or 27 smth like that ) but since the lates few updates it always crashes
i tried to push the apk into the system but also it crashes
this happnes to me with cm10 , cm10.1 ( nearly all roms )
or is there a way to remove all the things that i dont need from the gapps zip file and then install it ? , i tried to do it but failed miserably
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you can try flashing the gapps package and then individually uninstalling the parts you dont want from system apps by using a file explorer such as ES file explorer...
but as far as i know to run the play store you need to login to google account.

The component it needs is the Google services framework. You cannot use the play store without it.
However....you can disable the parts you don't like. It involves more than just deleting apps you don't want though. You have to disable stuff in the Google services framework to really shut the unwanted components off.
Check the thread in my signature. Go to the 2nd of 3rd post where I have a list of questions. Find the one about wake locks caused by the Google services framework and check out then link in that question. That will tell you how to edit the Google services framework and get you started on that process.
If you follow that guide exactly as I have written it you will end up with basically only the play store working and all other Google apps shut down. It nearly eliminates Google wake locks and might have a positive impact on battery use as a result. The only catch is that your WiFi and data icons will always be grey. They won't change color when connected .
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.

[APP][4.0+] APK Safe

APK Safe is an app that saves the APK of apps on your device when they are updated.
Later, you can install one of the saved APK to upgrade/downgrade your app.
How to use it:
Long press an app in the list. The app is selected and you can add more apps in the selection. Press the add button in the action bar, APK safe will saves the APK of the selected apps and each time you update (manually or from a store) one of these apps, the new APK is saved as well.
To change the version of an app (there is a green mark at the left of the card), press it. A popup will list the backup APKs of that app and you can select one of them to replace the currently installed one. If you downgrade and app on android 4.2 and later, the app will uninstall it first.
The app doesn't requires root but if your device is rooted and you activate "Install as root" in the settings, you'll get more features:
Silent install: upgrading/downgrading an app will show a progress bar while installing the app. You don't have to confirm the replacement, validate permissions, ...
On android 4.2 and later, you can downgrade without loosing data (without root, downgrading requires to uninstall first meaning loosing data)
Features:
Automatically save the the APK when an app is installed.
Can uninstall selected app, show informations or open the app on the market (support google play, amazon and samsung)
You can choose the backup folder for the APKs in the settings. If you want to save your APKs on a microSD on android 4.4, you MUST choose the folder /mnt/extSdCard/Android/data/net.cyl.apksafe/files/backup, where /mnt/extSdCard/ is the root of your sd card (the name maybe different on your system).
Downloads: https://cyberneticlifeform.wixsite.com/cylonu87/legacy
Feedback, comments and bug reports are welcomed.

Good app mate. I'm going to test it.

[Exp] Flashed Open Gapps (pico) on stock rom and...

So basically what I have done is I simply flashed open gapps pico package around 40mb in size from TWRP on stock rom 5.1 of Moto g3.
The results are as you can guess all the google apps that came preinstalled in the device were removed now you can see only core apps needed for playstore functionality. It removed Google app and Google now launcher too so before flashing you should install any third party launcher and integrate it in system too(optional).
It improved performance and battery life a bit and let me get rid of unwanted Google apps and the needed apps I have downloaded them from playstore.
So try it take a backup before hand if you wanna revert back(why will you do that.)
Installation
The Google Applications packages should be installed via recovery. Exact steps vary, but the general process is the same as that used to install CyanogenMod, or any other flashable zip.
Downloads
http://opengapps.org/?api=5.1&variant=pico
So just let me and other members know your experience by quick reply.

PIXELize your S8/S8+ and debloat

This is for those who does not really want all the fancy features that are present in Stock Touchwiz ROM and prefer to only have what is on Stock Android or Pixel-like experience.
All credits goes to the creator of each mod involved.
Requirements:
- Custom recovery like TWRP
- Rooted Phone (SuperSU / Magisk)
- File Manager with Root Access. I use Root Explorer
- OpenGApps (arm64,7.0) (package: stock/super/aroma) - This will enable some Nexus/Pixel exclusive features and install Google Apps that are preloaded on Nexus/Pixel Devices including apps that usually can't be installed as normal apk such as below:
- Google Phone
- Google Contacts
- Google Camera (Slow Motion isn't working)
- Google Now Card (swipe to right)
- Google Search Pill
- "OK Google" voice detection
Instructions:
* First thing to do is to flash OpenGApps via TWRP
Link: http://opengapps.org
* Install a navbar overlay from below thread to get Stock Android (AOSP) NavBar or Pixel NavBar. Install it as normal apk.
Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/themes/substratum-inversion-ui-overlay-overlays-t3604341
* Replace the stock Pixel Launcher (located at '/root/system/priv-app/NexusLauncherPrebuilt/NexusLauncherPrebuilt.apk') with this modded Launcher (link below). This launcher is basically the same as the stock Pixel Launcher with enabled features like round icons for app that supports it. More information on the original thread.
Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/launcher3-pixel-launcher-features-t3620972
* Below are some apps i'm using that are supported:
- Google Photos
- Google Play Music
- Google Drive
- Google Calendar
- Google Calculator
- Google Keep
- Google News&Weather
- Google Playstore
- Google Drive
- Google Calendar
- Youtube
- Gmail
- XDA Labs
- XDA Feed
- Twitter
And now that you got all that is required to have a Pixel-like UI / Experience, it's time to make your ROM lightweight.
* Create a folder in your Internal Storage or SD Card named "system" and inside it, create folders "app" and "priv-app". This is to make sure that you can always revert back the changes that you'll make.
* Open your File Manager with root access and navigate to "root/system/app" or "root/system/priv-app"
This is where you can find all the installed apps in your system. In my case, what i do is "cut and paste" the whole folder to Internal Storage and then reboot to remove the bloat that i don't need.
I am currently on Renovate Ice ROM - r98 build (AQF7 FIRMWARE) and below is the list of what i have removed.
[system/app]
AAAService
AdvSoundDetector2015
AllShareFile
AllShareMediaShare
ANTPlusTesy
ApexServicr
apps_brasil_signed_aligned
BasicDreams
BeamService
BookmarkProvider
CarmodeStub
ChocoEUKor
ChromeCustomizations
ClockPackage_N
CloudPrint2
CocktailQuickTool
CoolEUKor
DictDiotek_update
EasymodeContactsWidget81
FBAppManager_NS
FlipboardBriefing
InteractivePanoramaViewer_WQHD
MirrorLink
MotionPanoramaViewer
My_Singtel_4.4_com.singtel.mysingtel
MyGalaxy
NaverV_N
Panorama360Viewer
papergarden
RoseEUKor
SamsungCalendar_Stable_4012
SamsungConcierge_stub
Samsungconnect
SamsungIMEv5
SamsungPayStub
SecCalculator_N_R
SelfMotionPanoramaViewer
shahid
ShareLink_2017
SLocation
SlowMotion_Dream_N
SmartcardService
SmartClipEdgeService
SmartMirroring
SmartReminder
SmartSwitchAgent
SPdfNote
SPrintSpooler7
STalkback
StoryEditor_Dream_N
ubank_samsung
UserManual
Videos
VideoTrimmer_Dream
VirtualTour_N_OS
VisionIntelligence
Weather2017
WeatherWidget2017
WebManual
yandex.search
[system/priv-app]
AODService_v25
AppLock
AppsEdgePanel_v3
BeaconManager
CocktailBarService_v3
ColorBlind_N
Crane
DayLite
EasySetup
FBInstaller_NS
GalaxyAppsWidget_Phone_Dream
Gear360Editor_WQHD_Dream
HealthService
Ignite-Singtel_1.7.306_releaseProduction
KnoxDesktopLauncher
LedCoverAppDream
LedCoverService
Messaging_SEP81
NFusedLocation_v3.0_DREAM
OMCAgent
PeopleStripe
PersonalPageService
PreloadInstaller
RiCE
RNB
RNBShell
SamsungAccount_Dream
SamsungCloudDreamNewIcon
SamsungContacts81
SamsunGInCallUI
SamsungMagnifier3
SamsungThemes
SamsungVideoPlayer2016
SecGallery2015
SEMFactoryApp
SmartcardManager
SmartManager_v5
SmartManager_v5_DeviceSecurity
SMusicPicker
SNS_v2_N
SoundAlive_51
SPPPushClient_Prod
SVoicePLM
TaskEdgePanel
ThemeCenter
TouchWizHome_2017
UnifiedProfile
Upday
VisionCloudAgent
VoiceServiceFramework
VoiceWakeup
VRSetupWizardStub
I am not getting any Force Closes / Crashes / Errors. Just make sure to reboot your device after cutting and pasting system apps to your Internal Storage.
When you realized that you needed something back, just copy and paste the whole folder to where you got them and set the correct permission.
For the folder, set the permission to "rwxr-xr-x".
For the apk inside, set the permission to "rw-r-r".
then reboot your device.
If you want to have an updated google apps as soon as it becomes available, you may download latest apks at apkmirror website then replace existing apk in the system, set the correct permission, and reboot. I've done it to almost all google apps without any issue.
I will try to update this thread to include all apps that can be removed based on stock firmware that's freshly installed.
*Screenshots provided on post#3*

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Sweet! Could you please provide the applock apk. Thanks
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Sweet, I've actually a similar setup, except I'm just freezing apps and didn't bother flashing Gapps.
Also I'd recommend modifying key layout and use ASSIST for the key function. Having Google assistant on bixby button is dope !

@MarkerBeanXDA
If you delete Device Manager you can't access your battery stats.

iamnotkurtcobain said:
@MarkerBeanXDA
If you delete Device Manager you can't access your battery stats.
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Yes. I am aware of that but i don't really need it as i am having a great battery life and performace. Also, it can easily be installed back in less than a minute if i want to.

MarkerBeanXDA said:
Yes. I am aware of that but i don't really need it as i am having a great battery life and performace. Also, it can easily be installed back in less than a minute if i want to.
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I am Stock but rooted ROM, tried to flash Super GAPPS but its failed throwing ERROR 70 telling that GAPPS are already installed but in fact I haven't. Is this could be limitation due to STOCK ROM?

asif4self said:
I am Stock but rooted ROM, tried to flash Super GAPPS but its failed throwing ERROR 70 telling that GAPPS are already installed but in fact I haven't. Is this could be limitation due to STOCK ROM?
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I am always getting that message even with custom roms but it always proceed anyway. I also have tried flashing gapps on stock rooted rom successfully before on my S8. Maybe your gapps is corrupt or not fully downloaded.

MarkerBeanXDA said:
I am always getting that message even with custom roms but it always proceed anyway. I also have tried flashing gapps on stock rooted rom successfully before on my S8. Maybe your gapps is corrupt or not fully downloaded.
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Ok, thanx for the reply, i'll try downloading again and flash, regards
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asif4self said:
Ok, thanx for the reply, i'll try downloading again and flash, regards
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I have tried again flashing newly downloaded gapps file but again same error. The message thrown is "insufficient storage space available in system partition. You may want to use a smaller Open GApps package or consider removing some apps using gapps-config."

iamnotkurtcobain said:
@MarkerBeanXDA
If you delete Device Manager you can't access your battery stats.
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You can. Download shortcutter, grant it necessary permissions. Add a battery tile from shortcutter to the quick settings and anytime you click on it, it takes you to the battery stats. I have also disabled device manager.
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asif4self said:
I have tried again flashing newly downloaded gapps file but again same error. The message thrown is "insufficient storage space available in system partition. You may want to use a smaller Open GApps package or consider removing some apps using gapps-config."
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I got the "stock" gapps package and can confirm that it works on stock rooted rom.