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Gear S3 with non-samsung phone Questions

Some question I wish to know as I'm planning to buy Gear S3 Frontier in the future.
For example, I'm using Huawei Mate 9.
1. I'm confused in people saying making call and receiving SMS don't work, and some say work, exactly which one is true? Is it that you can accept call but can't start call from the watch?
2. Any one that uses What's App, Wechat, Hangout, specially Facebook Messenger etc, are you able to do reply to these apps(like in notification area)? Like not only the quick message, to be able to type manually on watch and reply (Voice or Keyboard)?
3.In relation to question 2, how well it work with remote connection?
Thanks.

I have a Pixel and a Pixel XL. I can initiate and answer calls fine on my non-LTE S3. I can start and respond to messages as well. I haven't tried the other apps you mentioned.

I'm on a htc 10, lineage OS and I'm unable to initiate calls or send SMS with s voice

I have HTC ONE M8, answer to both of your questions is yes it's working fine, connected via Bluetooth, phone calls sms replying as well as initiate call or sms. WhatsApp and other can receive and reply but cannot initiate new message.
(Didn't tested when connected to same WiFi network.)

wasim9283 said:
I have HTC ONE M8, answer to both of your questions is yes it's working fine, connected via Bluetooth, phone calls sms replying as well as initiate call or sms. WhatsApp and other can receive and reply but cannot initiate new message.
(Didn't tested when connected to same WiFi network.)
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Are you on stock rom? When I used a custom sense rom the gear manager keeps crashing however with lineage os it works but I can't initiate calls

wasim9283 said:
I have HTC ONE M8, answer to both of your questions is yes it's working fine, connected via Bluetooth, phone calls sms replying as well as initiate call or sms. WhatsApp and other can receive and reply but cannot initiate new message.
(Didn't tested when connected to same WiFi network.)
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Ah that's good to know. As for what's app or facebook messenger. Reply is all I need. Hardly initiate message on watch.
Thanks guys. Good to know it's working well with other phone.

Two more things I wish to know.
1. If I accepted a call with watch, can I redirect it to phone directly on watch or I have to manually go to phone and choose to not use Bluetooth in that caller screen?
2. If I have a Bluetooth headset connected to my phone for example. I answer call using watch but can the call go through headset instead? What if i accepted the call using the Bluetooth headset button instead of watch. Will the audio re route properly?
Thanks

raypro112 said:
Are you on stock rom? When I used a custom sense rom the gear manager keeps crashing however with lineage os it works but I can't initiate calls
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Yes I'm on stock rom (switched back to stock due to same issues)

I am using Xperia Z5 initiate calls works fine from watch by finding contact and tapping phone icon on watch, using s-voice its very hit and miss. Can initiate texts from watch by going to contact and tapping the envelope button, initiating texts with s-voice requires samsung phone ('send text message to xxxx' gives 'sms service is unavailable) can reply to texts, etc but only while notification is present, after notification cleared have to start from scratch. Its all pretty poor overall tbh.
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bibiner said:
Two more things I wish to know.
1. If I accepted a call with watch, can I redirect it to phone directly on watch or I have to manually go to phone and choose to not use Bluetooth in that caller screen?
2. If I have a Bluetooth headset connected to my phone for example. I answer call using watch but can the call go through headset instead? What if i accepted the call using the Bluetooth headset button instead of watch. Will the audio re route properly?
Thanks
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Can't help enough as not tested in detail.
In Bluetooth settings headset gives both options for phone audio and music
But watch gives only phone audio (so music sound can't come from watch, only music control possible)
And
If I select phone and music both for Bluetooth headset, then watch disconnect by itself as it wants phone audio.

veletron said:
I am using Xperia Z5 initiate calls works fine from watch by finding contact and tapping phone icon on watch, using s-voice its very hit and miss. Can initiate texts from watch by going to contact and tapping the envelope button, initiating texts with s-voice requires samsung phone ('send text message to xxxx' gives 'sms service is unavailable) can reply to texts, etc but only while notification is present, after notification cleared have to start from scratch. Its all pretty poor overall tbh.
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The way notifications reply work seems similar to my pebble. Except I can't type manually on pebble. Thanks for info

bibiner said:
The way notifications reply work seems similar to my pebble. Except I can't type manually on pebble. Thanks for info
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You can use on screen KB, handwriting recognition (us english only), smileys, canned response or s-voice to reply.
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veletron said:
You can use on screen KB, handwriting recognition (us english only), smileys, canned response or s-voice to reply.
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Btw. When you set the reminder, are you able to set for example. Today February 1. And I wish to remind myself to buy something on February 3. Can I do that? I hear it's strictly within the day only.

How many languages to the watch support tho? Does it support Japanese by any chance?
Does it have auto brightness?

I can say now that I went back to full stock rom, everything is working fine now. I can make and answer calls. I wished someone had told me earlier. I been calling Samsung support for days and they havent been anymore useful then the manual, telling me I needed the lte model to answer calls

On my mate 9, I can Not make a call through the watch neither reply to message text... Things I was able to do with my S6.
Probably due to emui and his special dialer.
But I can read SMS and email anyway

booster33 said:
On my mate 9, I can Not make a call through the watch neither reply to message text... Things I was able to do with my S6.
Probably due to emui and his special dialer.
But I can read SMS and email anyway
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Oh Dang. The inability to make a call due to mate 9 might be deal breaker. Are you able to view incoming caller name/number and accept call? Had you try third party dailer to see if it work? Since you have mate 9 and gear s3. Are the reply options from notification work? Like manually type or hand writing reply incoming What's app, hangout and Facebook messenger. And also, do the music player remote control work with stock music player? Do it display the current track playing properly?
Thanks

Just to be clear, there are two versions of the Frontier, one has an LTE radio. The LTE model is able to handle calls, texts, and run apps like Spotify without being connected to a phone. The BT model must be tethered to a phone in order to do these functions. Both models need to be connected (via BT or cellular) to a phone in order for notifications (ie. Hangouts, email) to pass through.

Gear S3 with Mate 9
bibiner said:
Oh Dang. The inability to make a call due to mate 9 might be deal breaker. Are you able to view incoming caller name/number and accept call? Had you try third party dailer to see if it work? Since you have mate 9 and gear s3. Are the reply options from notification work? Like manually type or hand writing reply incoming What's app, hangout and Facebook messenger. And also, do the music player remote control work with stock music player? Do it display the current track playing properly?
Thanks
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I know this question was from weeks ago but as I also have a S3 with a Mate 9, maybe I can help a little bit:
Everything works, including getting all notifications and asnwering them from the watch, and making and receiving calls in the watch. I have the S3 BT only model. My Mate 9 is with stock rom. Samsung Gear Manager working perfectly.
I have just one issue: sometimes, when I make a call using the phone, the call is automatically routed to the watch, without my permission, and it seems there is not any configuration or parameter to force all calls to not be routed to the watch. Of course it is easy to bring the call back to the phone (using the BT button in the dial), but as I initiated the call from the phone, it should not be redirected to the watch at the beginning. And this is something that happens eventually, not allways. It seems to be some kind of bug. I read about the same issue in other threads (S3 with other non-Samsung phones) here in XDA but could not find a definitive solution yet. If somebody can help on this, I would appreciate.

quangtran1 said:
I have a Pixel and a Pixel XL. I can initiate and answer calls fine on my non-LTE S3. I can start and respond to messages as well. I haven't tried the other apps you mentioned.
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I'm using a Pixel XL as well and I'm planning to buy one. What limitations do you encounter when pair to the Pixel? Samsung Pay is also one of my reasons to buy this. Is it fully functional?
UPDATE:
Samsung Pay fully functional. But there are limitations if you use Gear S3 with non Samsung phone and BT headset (mine is Level U Pro ANC).
1. Call profile could only be activated either on the watch or level u pro, but not both simultaneously. If you choose to keep call profile on BT headset, you can use the headset for calling, but you cannot initiate call or answer call from watch. If you choose to keep call profile on watch, you cannot use BT headset for calling. That's also the case with car BT.
2. You can receive and reply to SMS on watch. But initiating SMS is a different story. No built in SMS so on watch so you can use watchface with messages shortcut to initiate sms, BUT all sms you initiate thru the watch WILL NOT REFLECT on the sms thread on the phone itself (Android Messages).
3. You cannot see your SMS history as well.

Gear s3 Notifications/Reply

Is someone going to make a gear s3 notifications extender? This was available on the Gear S and i think it worked on the Gear s2 but I skipped that model. I use to be able to reply from hangouts and whatsapp, how have we gone backwards?

I can reply to Hangouts on my S3 - just did so yesterday. Having a senior moment, though - I can't remember if it worked just by setting Hang Out notifications to On in the Gear app Notifications settings, or if it was enabled by installing the Android Wear app as noted here for the S2: http://www.wikihow.com/Respond-to-Hangouts-Messages-on-Samsung-Gear-S2

Android Messages with Gear S3?

Apologies if this has already been asked and answered. I'm using the S9+ with my Gear S3 and I'd like to use Android Messages for SMS. Is there a plugin or something that I can use to bypass the Gear's requirement that I use Samsung Messaging for SMS? Thanks in advance for your help.

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I am experiencing this same frustration. Were you ever able to find a work around?

No. Sadly, I have not.

I am using Gear S3 with Galaxy S7. I started with Samsung messenger on the phone, and then changed later to that of android. I can receive receive notifications now.

You always have been able to receive messages from other apps, it just doesn't function to the full potential of the native Samsung app. I used Textra for a long time, but with the functionality went back to Samsung. You would most likely have to root the watch. I've been waiting for a way to make my default app other than Samsung as well but in the year-and-a-half I've had this watch it hasn't happened

Question about Gear Wear: Currently using Gear S3 as Standalone device for teen son.

Current Setup: I bought a S3 Frontier LTE for my 13 year old son as a standalone device and it works perfect! I am only paying about $13 for his independent number on a sub-account with Verizon.
Question: I gave him my old S5 with no service to pair and install Gear Wear to add apps, watch faces, etc. When paired, his watch does not receive texts or emails so he can't leave it paired with the phone. Is there a way "around" that so he can keep them paired? He would like to receive Instagram notifications, etc. on his watch which he can't get when it isn't paired.
Thanks!

Phone has no service, so it wouldn't receive SMS and wouldn't send a notification to the watch. If he's set the phone up for emails it should send notifications to the watch when in a wifi zone.
Notifications need to be set up on the phone app.

I would think if you set the watch for mobile network to be always on it should be able to be connected to both a phone using bluetooth and its standalone number via mobile network. I think that will make it behave as you want it too.
However big drawback is going to be terrible battery life if you do that.
I would suggest trying to download the verizon messenger app on the phone and seeing if you can get the messages from the gear to sync to that, if I remember correctly it just requires a verification text which you should be able to from the watch. If that works you can enable notifications for that app on the watch, but he won't be able to send messages from it he'd have to use the phone or unpair/turn off bluetooth to do it from the watch (he would get the notification on the watch and maybe be able to read the message in the notification I'm not sure how it would behave). As the previous poster said set up the email on the phone and it will sync to the watch over bluetooth. All that will only work (assuming it does) when that phone is connected to wifi and paired with the watch.
I hope it helps let me know.

Question Native or working sideloaded apps with VoIP calling from Watch4

Is there a native app (or working sideloaded app) to do VoIP calling between watch and an android phone?
Even a messenger, whatsapp, viber, line, wechat, etc., that has voice calling that works. (i.e., I can make a VOICE CALL to/from the watch and android phone using messenger, whatsapp, skype, etc), even if the watch is not paired with its connected phone
Thanks!

Fb messenger lite used to have half of the functions working (video call was definitely not functioning but I used it on a Wear OS 2 watch). Telegram x must be too. Haven't used those two on the Galaxy watch Wear OS for more than a year though, so can't say for sure.
As for native app, there was Glide and some regional apps.

SKAm69 said:
Fb messenger lite used to have half of the functions working (video call was definitely not functioning but I used it on a Wear OS 2 watch). Telegram x must be too. Haven't used those two on the Galaxy watch Wear OS for more than a year though, so can't say for sure.
As for native app, there was Glide and some regional apps.
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thanks for the reply. I couldn't get fb messenger lite to make or receive voice calls. When I make a call from the watch, the recipient doesn't receive any notification or indication of a call. Likewise, when I call the user logged into the watch, no notification shows up on the watch that someone is calling -- thus, no way to answer.
I'm talking about having the watch run independently using its native app via wifi, and not merely getting notifications displayed from the phone.
thanks

Reportedly, side loaded Google Duo has even video calls functioning. Not sure about Meet.
There is a native app Line but it could be just voice messages like in Telegram

There is a way to install Whatsapp and make calls from you watch. I have the none lte version and sending and makijg calls works good. Not perfect since the APK is not meant for the watch so the dpi is a bit off but does the job.