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I was just browsing through some rss feeds and noticed the driver issue was posted on engadget a few minutes ago. This means that all the other gadget feeds will inherently post the same on their site. HTC is about feel the wrath of our members undying persistence. They mention xda-developers, and the htc class action site as well. Looks like HTC is gonna hafta give us what we paid for. I can't wait. I bet we'll have them damn drivers in a month or so. I know it's been popping up on other news sites lately bu I was SOO hyped to see it on engadget! I'm so frickin excited I can't wait/ gimmme gimme gimme.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
What's a GREAT News!!!! When you make public (and i say VERY PUBLIC) an issue, treating it as a SCANDALOUS fact, someone has to take measures about it.
I hope this is the situation
www.tweakers.net had also posted something about the driver issue.
Tweakers was among the first big sites to cover it.
They are the biggest dutch IT community, and are in the top 20 of most visited dutch websites, so thats good coverage. In the Kaiser threads on their forums the driver issue also got attention.
Given that HTC is pretty big here, even advertising on big billboards, it might give the regional managers a push to escalate matters.
I just suggested the info to the two most visited IT news sites in France (Clubic and PC INpact). PC INpact provides the IT News for Yahoo France.
I hope it will be published.
We got the BOY GENIUS ON BOARD
The Boy Genius just wrote up an article on the drivers
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/01/20/htc-shipping-devices-with-sub-par-drivers/
Boy Genius Report too (I sent them a "tip" but I'm sure they knew of this before hand too.. )
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/01/20/htc-shipping-devices-with-sub-par-drivers/
Bronx31 said:
The Boy Genius just wrote up an article on the drivers
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/01/20/htc-shipping-devices-with-sub-par-drivers/
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Thanks to me! I Asked them I also contacted the local news papers!
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Thanks to me! I Asked them I also contacted the local news papers!
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Man, I'm telling you, ,,, WE WILL HAVE THOSE DRIVERS!! I've never seen a group of people online, band 2gether, and do what we have done This is incredible, seriously
w00t!! w00t!! I'm guessing HTC will come to its knees in the next week or two. What a glorious day it will be. I'm not certain, but I don't think they will have to do any development of these drivers. I think they've already been written, it's just a matter of paying for the license, and the goods will be ours. Does anybody know? I want to get an idea of how long we're talking about here, before I get to play crysis on my kaiser
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Boy Genius Report too (I sent them a "tip" but I'm sure they knew of this before hand too.. )
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/01/20/htc-shipping-devices-with-sub-par-drivers/
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Hmm.. I contacted them with this story, Like more people I think...
Yeah, looks like this snowball is definitely rolling. I have to say though, even if the drivers are released, I'm not sure I'll be buying from HTC again. I really have no faith in them after this. Hopefully Eten or imate will step up by the time I need a new phone (although those companies have their problems as well). I think a lot of this has come for the simple reason that as long as people will eat crap, it will be financially profitable to dispense it. Maybe with this publicity, other companies will think twice about screwing over their customers too.
When even an at&t bloated Pantech C810 is more responsive than an optimized out Kaiser/TyTN II. And HTC still doesn't get it?
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Yeah, looks like this snowball is definitely rolling. I have to say though, even if the drivers are released, I'm not sure I'll be buying from HTC again. I really have no faith in them after this. Hopefully Eten or imate will step up by the time I need a new phone (although those companies have their problems as well). I think a lot of this has come for the simple reason that as long as people will eat crap, it will be financially profitable to dispense it. Maybe with this publicity, other companies will think twice about screwing over their customers too.
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Seriosly I don't think (use IPAQ few years ago) nobady offer better device like HTC.I also sign the petition when was started.
And most of the device have something in common with HTC:
-Fujitsu-Siemens,HP Ipaq,Qtek,Imate all was developed by old HTC Company before they change a few years ago the policy to sell own branded phones.Search the history and you will see.I use for 2 year and 1/2 HTC products (TyTn,X7500-short time and TyTn II) and i like them and with XDA support I don't think you will find a better combination.
This whole things reminds me of my ipaq h6315 from a few years back. HP and T-Mobile were both soooooo slow in releasing drivers and updates for that device. If it werent for homebrew applications and roms that device would have been nearly useless.
This is not so much to learn the comparison because I have did the research. But i'm hoping to get advise from the good people on the forum, whereas I rely on you guys and girls sound opinion. Thanks
Which one would you recommend? Both are looking excellent. I'm close to the amount needed to get one. With all the activity on the Polaris....I have leaned toward this....but I just discovered the Samsung Omnia.
I'm in the US though and both are not available here, so i have to import it.
Thank you for your reply in advance!!!
Hello Kenjari,
I do not own samsung device, but week before I have decided to buy polaris.
If I would not found this forum, I will probably be very unhappy customer of HTC.
I had several issues with Polaris before flashing official rom.
- reactions of device were quite slow (in comparison with unofficial rom - now its okay for me)
- gsm signal was horrible. Often I was without service even my ordinary cell phone was showing full signal strength. Again, after flashing radio everithing is okay.
So for me, if I will not flash my device, it would be complete useless.
But again, now I am quite happy
Thanks nikomach for your insight because i read by a reviewer that right out of the box it was a good device. Of course, i havent experience to many official ROMS right out of the box that were good.
Thanks again.
Please if anyone else have insight please post.
The Crusie is a triband-3G and quadband GSM. I believe the Omnia doesn't cover all the bands for 3G. You should check that the 3G band that it has covers the one for your carrier, but I doubt it. That's the main drawback to the Omnia, other than that it looks like a solid device.
By the way here's a good thread comparing the Diamond with the Omnia:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond_vs_samsung_i900_omnia-review-262.php
I know you were asking about the Cruise vs Omnia but this article should still give you good insight.
Thanks hambola. This provided some good details on the Samsung i900. I will check if the future tmobile 3G will work with that device.
Good link!!!
Anymore opinions. This is really helping out!
Any other lasting opinions?
What about the Touchwiz GUI on the Samsung against the TouchFlo 3d Cruise?
Difficult choice!
I saw the video of the user interface of the Omnia and i think it's simply amazing!!
Besides that i think the Polaris is a much powerfull device.
The connectivity is simply the best, you have it all in just one light device.
I think i've read somewere that the Omnia doesn't have a stylus (don't no for sure), that being true i think it's a major problem. To work with some programs you need a stylus.
The Polaris can be costumized to be finger friendly or not, it's just your choice!
The biggest problem in the Polaris is the famous "driver issue", and that only makes me spend more time here at XDA!
In the end it's all up to you to make the difficult choice, they are great devices.
Good shoping!
Thanks HRQ.SLV. You are absolutely correct. The samsung ships with a stylus but its not connected to the devices. It simply just hangs by a string on the device.
The Cruise simply seems to be more versatile then the Omnia...offering stylus navigation or finger. But that Touchwiz...as new as it is.....seems impressive for a QVGA device!!!!
Whats up with the driver issue?
I have been looking around these threads lately trying to see the development of this device. The activity is great.
So far I feel informed. My only question is whether I should use the 2 in 1 unlocker....or just the simple Hard spl unlocker? ...if I purchase an unlock Cruise.
Thanks again buddy!!!!
One more question about this.
I have look online for the Cruise. I see prices ranging from $340.00 to $620.00. Why such a range in price? How come there isnt a consistent price for it?
If I go for the cheaper deal...does that mean the quality of the device will lower? Will it be used or something? I'm just curious!!
the lower the price usually means it's used. i'm selling mine and have sent you a detailed PM.
About hard.spl
I bought unlocked device too and had used Hard.SPL
Every flashing works just like charm
Price could depend whether navigation software and memory card are included in package.
Mine arrived with TomTom (useless for me) and without any memory card.
TomTom was soon officially replaced by iGO 2006 free of charge.
Touchwiz
Hey Kenjari, great news:
twolf is making a today plugin that looks just like Touchwiz!
You can take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2550969#post2550969
If you decide for the Polaris it seems that you will have the possibility of having a similar look.
I'm anxious to try it out myself!
copualt3 thanks for the offer. just pm you back.
nikomach cool, so i will just use the Hard spl....thats all I need. thanx again buddy.
Bodisson I checked out one site and called to verify and they say its brand new, i checked the other site out and called and they said its brand new. No memory cards and same app Tom Tom on both. Yet there were a $200. difference. (The good think about the second site is that he told me what I should be paying for the polaris....and it was the amount of the first site )
I just dont want to be purchasing some used dud because I'm finding the best deal. I'm pushing for brand new.
HRQ.SLV, I heavily leaning toward the polaris now. I hope twolf perfects what he is doing....I have used some of his work and it works great. Thanks for the link.
Well everyone!!!! I truly appreciate your opinions and thoughts plus your resources. My choice is to come home to the Polaris. Its obvious I will be getting a better device for my buck. More versatility, and options. Also, the support of a community is needed with these devices....and this forum is that added support that money cant buy. I look forward to joining the family real soon.
Thanks again for this supportive community.
Okay, I think I should post this just to be on the safe side.
After searching for a Polaris I found one at website A. Website B was out of my budget. After great feedback from buddies at xda-developers, my preference examined, and checking my wallet, I decided to make the good investment and purchase it.
I ordered it from website A for 368.99 this past Sunday, and ignored website B. I just checked back on website A, and the price has shot up to Website B. What just happened?
I checked thoroughly, it didnt say any where that it was used, refurbished, or anything. I also took the liberty to email support and ask why they had such a deal on a brand new device, they replied:
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your interest in our products.
All devices and accessories offered by *##$)# are brand new and come in their manufacturer's original packaging. All phones offered are unlocked. We do sell used and refurbished products, but they are always noted clearly on the product page.
We are able to offer the prices we do because we seek out the best most efficient ways to bring these products to our customers.
If you have any other questions please contact us.
Kind Regards,
Its set to be delivered tomorrow. What did I just order? Why in the hell did the price go up right after I ordered my phone?
Thanks buddies.
I hope when ever it arrives I'm not in for some suprise.
Kenjari
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and the price has shot up to Website B. What just happened?
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Maybe they have discoverd that there will be a WM6.1 release for Polaris in September!
Or they just read this thread and learned that it's a great device!
That could be!!
Okay folks. I have just recieved my Polaris. I'm not sure what to look for as far as it been new or used.
First, it has the touchflo sticker on top of the phone. But I can see some finger smudge or something on sticker. I'm observing the protective screen and it looks a little on the scratched side, a few marks here and there.
It seems to have everything in the box, plus a 1gb sd card. Does that come with all Polaris's?
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Well after turning it on. Reveiwing the device, unpacking the accesories and stuff, I have come to two conclusions: 1. Either the website had the price wrong and I fortunately got a brand new everything in the box, Polaris for almost three hundred dollars cheaper then 'common price'. 2. I manage to buy a "un-stated" used Polaris that look so damn new that it would fool the makers .
All in all, I'm glad i have one. I'm glad I had those here to help me make this decision. And so far, I'm content with what I have.
Kenjari
BTW....After two hours of playing with it, this ROM is a pretty damn good 'official' ROM. Much better then the Advantage ship ROM.
Are there any better ROM's out there that beats the standard shipped ROM?
came across this thread late
I own a TC since July and my husband just got his Omnia about 4 days ago. in my own opinion, the device already differs a lot in specification. so if you ask which device is good or better suited for you, you have to know what you will do with the device. I uses my husband's Omnia 2 times and finding that the "process" of setting up the device is kind of confusing compared to the easiness of setting up the TC. but if you want a camera with a big megapixel count, an iPhone like features (plus the look), Omnia is for you. for me, a regular web browser, the TC is enough for now. was wanting Raphael but the price tag is out of my reach
oh, and for the US, with Omnia, you can't get the ATT's 3G because the Omnia's 3G HSDPA band is only 2100MHz. the same case for my husband's Nokia N95 ...my TC and Sony Ericsson K850 works fine with ATT's 3G.
This one is for the Admins.
I know the iPhone is not well liked on xda but there are some people on here (like myself) that have one just because they could get it at a good price.
(I am by no means an Apple fanboy)
I have a jailbroken 8GB iPhone 3G and would like to request a section on the forum for the iPhone please.
My reason: I really like this forum and I think that some of it's members could really help to make some interesting mods for the iPhone (eg. maybe porting Android or developing a method to use the iPhone without the restrictions of iTunes etc.) so it would be nice to see what people can do with the technology.
Please consider it.
Thanks!
no not unless its made by htc. the iphone is not made by htc. theis site is devoted to all phones made by htc
i was gonna suggest my site in my signature but i would have the iphone on there as it mac not windows os
and between you and me if you think you got the iphone for a good price then ur insane as most htc phones are fee on uk networks contracts, oh yes that includes o2
mate, i love my iphone just as much as ive loved any of my wm devices...
but this just isnt the place for an iphone forum, its like having a n96 forum
google for iphone forums, im sure they exist, and are probably working on that stuff already
hmm i think it should stay the way it is man
theres alot of webpages i mean ALOT of the iphone there like 3 or 4 for the htc..
so yeah just google
iphone apps or iphone forum
I will ignore most of the first reply because it's just plain negative and rude.
(btw. I don't live in a country where all the big network providers reside. I bought my iPhone cash at a good price in my country where it needed to be imported.)
For the other responses, I can't say I'm not disappointed but fair enough. I just asked since I saw that there is a section for the Sony Ericsson Xperia (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=470) which is also not an HTC so I though maybe they'd be willing to add the iPhone as well.
(The developers on this site are certainly smart enough to make some awesome mods for the phone and perhaps even figure out how to sim-unlock the 3G version.)
Response accepted, thanks anyway!
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... I just asked since I saw that there is a section for the Sony Ericsson Xperia (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=470) which is also not an HTC so I though maybe they'd be willing to add the iPhone as well. ...
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And that is where you are wrong! The SE XPERIA X1 is manufactured by HTC!
BTW: I can't find that much "rudeness" or "negativity" in the replys. Let's blame it on the rain!
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Not an HTC Device.
Not a WM device.
It's not going to happen..
Hello to all members and administrators of this great site...
I apologise for my spelling and elnglish but i have one question...
I get from time to time an E-mail from XDA developers in wich signs that I can get free Ipod if I play some online games and sometimes that I can get Iphone for only 99$...Is this real or It's just some joke from other sites that are taking your money and you get nothing or cheap chinese copy of Iphone wich is far from real thing thins.Tnaks for answers and no hard feelings guys...
Hello XDA Community! I am not sure if this is the right place for this, but I just thought I'd try asking here first. Anyway, I have been selling cellular devices, tablets, etc. on eBay for the last couple of years and to be honest I have grown quite sick of their policies and their inability to handle fraudulent returns. I was just wondering if anyone else buys/sells cellular devices for a living and have had better luck with a different venue? I know smaller ones exist like Swappa, Amazon, etc. but their policies forbid BAD ESN or broken devices from being sold on their site and I deal with a lot of these too. There's got to be another, better site out there for buying/selling new, used, and broken devices. If you could share I'd appreciate it!
Anyone?