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Why we don't open New section for iphone

Dear all
all is know this webside is a great webside to developers all the PPC So we don't open new section for iphone to developers this Device ...
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are you drunk?
And no to iPhone dev...if you can even call it that.

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GSM system said:
Dear all
all is know this webside is a great webside to developers all the PPC So we don't open new section for iphone to developers this Device ...
respactfully
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Iphone Sucks! I used it before and I didnt like it very much....

It's not a HTC product (not even a WinMo one); therefore, it's highly unlikely it'll get an official forum. Not even non-HTC WM models get an own forum.

GSM system said:
Dear all
all is know this webside is a great webside to developers all the PPC So we don't open new section for iphone to developers this Device ...
respactfully
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we could also give our selves enemas and root canals but you dont see anyone running off to the hardware shop!
i saw an iPhone for the first time the other day in real life, its like a maxipad without wings!

For iphone visit the Iphone forum:
http://www.iphoneforum.info/

Why ruin a decent web site with a rubbish device having its own forum section - no way, it is not worthy IMHO - remember the way Apple reacted when the iFone interface was put on the PPC PRIOR to the release of their "baby" - I won't be getting one thats for sure, I soon got bored with the interface and removed it, so I certainly would pay for it - Mike

mikealder said:
Why ruin a decent web site with a rubbish device having its own forum section - no way, it is not worthy IMHO - remember the way Apple reacted when the iFone interface was put on the PPC PRIOR to the release of their "baby" - I won't be getting one thats for sure, I soon got bored with the interface and removed it, so I certainly would pay for it - Mike
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well said, someone i work with had the iphone and it caused a small amount of awe around the water cooler for a few minutes. i walked up just as i heard them say "see you touch the screen ...." which was followed by my "yes so can i and its not a new concept..."

[Blackberry] -- Shall I wait ?

Hey guys,
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I currently own a HTC phone and would love to keep it. But all my friends have blackberries and they chat using bbm (sharing pics and files in an instant). Its facebook integrated (calender and notifcations), but lacks 5mp camera as with the htc.
My current HTC will be given to a friend so that the money wont be wasted just like that.
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Alright my actual question is, shall I wait until a better blackberry phone is released ? I have been waiting for more than a year, and all their latest models are 3mp phones with ugly designs .. (yet good features).
Is there any valid news that a 5mp blackberry being released ? (other than the rumor on the net).
Kind Regards,
Z

I would go to the Android sites on the 'Net and ask. I am sure that asking about Blackberries on the Android forums will get you just as far as asking about Blackberries on a Windows Mobile site.
http://forums.crackberry.com/

I asked it here since I had a windows phone as well.
Thanks for the reply

No problem that you asked it here, there are enough people that know a lot about non-HTC/non-wm phones.
But I can't tell you if there's going to be a new blackberry soon.

I9000 or HTC HD2

Hi all,
Im facing a weird decision... well not weird as almost 50-50 split and it makes me feel queasy .
Should i opt for the Galaxy S (Android) or the HTC HD 2?
The Galaxy S has 1 GHz processor 512 Ram Full HD video recording and a SEXY screen... damn it looked nice in the demo . However (and this does drive me crazy) there is no LED flash. I dont know WHY there isnt but there isnt. God, I hate it when manufacturers do that. They leave out one fiddly feature for no reason whatsoever.
Anyhoo the HTC HD 2 HAS a flash it has WinMo upgradeable to WinMo 7. Snapdragon (I love that name) processor but the Galaxy S out performs it easily in terms of graphics. Should I take the leap into Android (I really really want to see how well it works especially since its got such an amazing developer community) or stick with WinMo and the HTC HD2? I know i havent mentioned many pros of the HD2 but thats because it shares most of them with the Galaxy. To be honest the only pro is that its an interface im familiar with. However, would all of you people who have taken the step from winMo to android tell me whether it was worth it or not?
Thanks

Leo with WM all the way!

orb3000 said:
Leo with WM all the way!
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Why would you say that?

Lol!!!!android! Shouldn't even b a choice! NO COMPARISON
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tarantula78 said:
Why would you say that?
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Because WM is a more mature and solid OS with thousand of customizations and free apps, android is immature and young and is not business oriented, also google will be in control of all your data...
All above of course is just my personal opinion

What do you mean google has access to all your data? :S really? they can see my messages and such information? I find that very surprising.

Read Is google stealing things off my phone? thread and make your own conclusions...
It's Google, they live and survive off your information!
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In terms of modern UI, stability and handling Android is way more mature then anything WM can offer. Unless you have some mission critical software which only runs on WM there is no sane reason to keep using it. Besides HD2 wont have any official ports for WP7. Android offers a stable, consistent user interface with plenty of customization options out of the box and tons of free available software. Hardly anybody bothers to produce new software for WM, meanwhile the Android eco system is brimming with life. I switched from a X1 which I tried with various custom roms to a Desire and it's just no comparison. If you're not hardcore attached to WM, I'm certain Android is the way better choice.
Google will only have your data, if you're using their mail/messenger/etc. services. You're free to use different ones.

orb3000 said:
Read Is google stealing things off my phone? thread and make your own conclusions...
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Google has removed once test-apps and I'm certain that isn't what happend in the linked case. If it happens you can be sure to read in the tech news about it and not by somebody with a new account and no posts. That thread doesn't either talk about google accessing and somehow retrieving data from user phones.

Perhaps that link as you mention does not give nothing solid to the question, however, as I clearly mentioned it´s my personal opinion only...
Here more links with information:
http://gcn.com/articles/2010/05/28/did-google-collect-too-much-info-with-street-view.aspx
http://webhosting.devshed.com/c/a/Web-Hosting-Articles/Viacom-and-Google-Stealing-Your-Privacy/
http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-hijackingtraffic/
http://hoytwalterhouse.com/sorry-for-stealing-information-from-google-x5067.html
Maybe you'll attract it hard to believe but we are talking about Google. Google for a long time to know a user's search application, Google Maps, where they can see photographs and videos that she has performed. Street View by specially equipped vehicles that feature the world's major cities is not registered as permanent move.
Grounds that they violate the privacy of private life, many times before Street View cars into trouble in some cities people were exposed to even the stony response rod.
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Respectfully,

orb3000 said:
Perhaps that link as you mention does not give nothing solid to the question, however, as I clearly mentioned it´s my personal opinion only...
Here more links with information:
http://gcn.com/articles/2010/05/28/did-google-collect-too-much-info-with-street-view.aspx
http://webhosting.devshed.com/c/a/Web-Hosting-Articles/Viacom-and-Google-Stealing-Your-Privacy/
http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-hijackingtraffic/
http://hoytwalterhouse.com/sorry-for-stealing-information-from-google-x5067.html
Respectfully,
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I fail to see the point of a bunch of random links, which claim that google has done something wrong and none is related to Android? Do you really think MS isn't collecting massive mounts of data with their internet services as well? In contrast to many other companies google actually has the balls to go out and say that something went wrong, not trying to deny it until there is no other way.

I must say i dont really find those so convincing. So long as they arent collecting PERSONAL information (my contacts, messages etc) and its anonymous and im not getting charged for it why should it bother me? Its just usage information.
Tbh I dont find many things convincing, especially the article about the Traffic hijacking. That has to be the most ridiculous claim ive ever seen. The google bot is very advanced and it can pick out useful information like phone numbers etc. How he can make a claim that showing this information is traffic hijacking done intentionally is ridiculous. I mean doesnt it occur to the author that Google is a SEARCH engine.. part of SEARCHING means getting to the information you want. THe best search engine wouldthen presumably be the one that brings you that information as easily and as quickly as possible :S.
However, you said its just your opinion so thanks for the information but as it stands I dont find it a real threat to my decision on HTC HD2 and the Samsung Galaxy S.

I've only read the first few posts so I don't know if this has already been covered. I've been with Windows Mobile since day one and I loved it until I tried Android on the HTC Evo a month ago. BTW' I had (still do) the HD2 which I bought on a T-Mobile 2-year new contract. I flashed the HD2 with Kumars ROMs (the best ROMs for WM right here on xda). I did a lot of tweaking and installed over 130 apps on my HD2 (both paid and free apps). After an hour with the Evo, I was sold on Android and now I just have to get around to putting my HD2 on ebay. BTW' the HD2 will not be updated to Windows Phone 7 if nobody else has mentioned that here.
The HD2 is nice and slim and feels very solid just like the iPhone 4G (I'm currently testing the iPhone 4G as of yesterday, while waiting on the ATT and Verizon Galaxy versions to come out). The HD2 is a good phone and if you flash it with a ROM like Kumar's, things are pretty good on it but don't looking for the best of gaming on it because the newest and best games aren't there. Also a lot of apps won't be as nice as what you can find on the other OS's. Furthermore, a lot of older WM apps are not easy to use on the HD2 because of the lack of stylus support.
The Evo is as close as you can get to having an HD2 running Android so in other words the Evo would almost be like having your HD2 and Galaxy together. My Evo has been good but it had the raised screen issue (as well as a dead pixel and yellow streaks on white backgrounds). I wanted to just get it exchanged but Radio Shack has been all sold out. So I decided to try the iPhone which I had to jump through hoops to get it mailed to me.......
The Galaxy has a nicer screen technology and looks better so I keep reading. But from what I can see of Samsung, I think I like HTC Sense much better than TouchWhiz. Plus the design looks much better than any of the Galaxy designs as far as I'm concerned. Evo or Galaxy = good choices. HD2 = a dead OS that you'll be happy with for a minute and then you'll regret not having a newer OS.
That was my two and half cents plus tax

"But my iPhone..."

I just wanted to say, if your iPhone did it so well, then go back to your iPhone.
So many people that are coming from Apple don't understand the significance of having a phone that is this customizable and open source to boot. One problem with the device and they want to return it to the store.
There will be problems. If you decide to flash a custom ROM to your phone, there will probably be a few more. You surely remember flashing your iPhone with a new ROM for the first time...right?
Oh, that's right, you couldn't.
iPhone users are sure a different breed. So many wants, so little appreciation. (Also, I'm not calling out EVERY iPhone user on the planet, you all know who you are)
The Captivate is a really, really, nice phone. I don't look at the OS on the phone as something Samsung has anything to do with either, which a lot of people seem to do around these forums.
I purchased this phone, because I have wanted a phone that natively runs Android. I have had Android running on my old HTC kaiser(which is 1000% better than Windows Mobile and keeps the phone current), and my HTC Rhodium. The passion and dedication of Android developers and the willingness of Android adopters to help in any way they can is amazing.
Anyways, I will wait for new ROMs to be released for this phone, and I will be happy with the fact that there will be ROMs for this phone, that it has a stunning display, and that most if not all the shortcomings of the phone will be short lived by the persistently dedicated developers out there. The hardware is great, the OS is great, and will get better over time.
Now, AT&T where is my 4g...

Well said. Now the ROM waiting begins...

I agree 100%! I also had a mini rant regarding everyone looking at their antenna and TRYING to lose bars. Just use the damn phone. If you drop a call, that is a problem. Until then, enjoy it!

lol n1. i hope talking it out helped.

U MAD?
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lateralus1082 said:
U MAD?
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I'm not mad, I just hate having to click through all these threads that people make asking the same questions over and over again and complaining about the same things.

well put !

This thread is great! This OS will evolve and it will change to what the users want and what doesn't get built in the OS most likely will be filled with an app or customized ROMs. I came from an iPhone 3G. I skipped the 3GS upgrade because I wasn't convinced Apple would make significant strides. With this upgrade, I could have went with iPhone 4. Its a nice looking device but I don't want to be shackled by their restrictions. Over a 2 year period they added what...a front facing camera, multitasking and folders??? GIVE ME A BREAK.

you said that perfectly and you know how some people switched from iphone 4 to this and they complain about no flash well all the other iphones didn't have flash either just to put it out there

I am going to wait and skip this phone. Within a few months they will come out with a 1024 x 760 or whatever the new Gingerbread resolution is.... Then I will sell my iPhone 4 and jump back into the fun world of flashing ROM's. That is the only thing I miss about all of my old windows Mobile device..... OH and I did miss the xda-developers for the few years I was away

@dewt
I completely agree with you.. all the points you have made.
If you wanna say "but my iPhone..." stick to your iPhone and let Steve jobs exploit you the way he wants..
Come on... its hard to think that so many ppl are caught under his spell..
I mean come on.. WAT can you do with an iphone??? .. except make and receive (... oh wait a moment...) .. calls???. there is nothing customizable in an iPhone. i got bored within 15 minutes using an iPhone.
I guess i lost all my respect for Apple products bcoz of Steve Jobs attitude(hold the phone different... other phones also face this issue... come on). i feel sorry for his engineers though.
I feel proud to have bought the fastest android device presently and i can live with some imperfections (in fact i love working my way around if i cant figure out things.) Dont you guys think that it makes you learn more stuff.
Google rocks!.. Android is the best eva!! i think with time things will only get better with Android..

This thread is entirely unnecessary and as bad as iPhone owners complaining about the Captivate. I for one have seen almost no threads where someone was saying their iPhone was better and the Captivate couldn't do something. Don't piss off the Captivate community, because a LARGE number of people in the Captivate community seem to be coming from iPhones because this is the first decent Android phone that AT&T has offered. So far I've heard almost nothing but mature conversations between iPhone and Captivate owners until this one. Just a few people coming from iPhones or thinking about coming from an iPhone and wanting to know what the Android OS is capable of and if it will do everything they want so they can decide if they want to swap.

AJerman said:
This thread is entirely unnecessary and as bad as iPhone owners complaining about the Captivate. I for one have seen almost no threads where someone was saying their iPhone was better and the Captivate couldn't do something. Don't piss off the Captivate community, because a LARGE number of people in the Captivate community seem to be coming from iPhones because this is the first decent Android phone that AT&T has offered. So far I've heard almost nothing but mature conversations between iPhone and Captivate owners until this one. Just a few people coming from iPhones or thinking about coming from an iPhone and wanting to know what the Android OS is capable of and if it will do everything they want so they can decide if they want to swap.
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what you say makes sense. But my opinion was tied to the comments i hear from my friends who use iPhones.. so nothing against ppl participating in this community.

definitely have to agree with dewt on this, why? I'm the most anti-iPhone person I know, but I came from WinMo (see sig) and you know what, I love this phone. Sure there are a ton of features missing right now, but that's RIGHT NOW. I know it's gonna get bigger and better, so why complain about things? You know what you should be doing instead of whinning about features that aren't on the phone.... going through posts, searching the internet, asking around and finding out HOW to get them on the phone like I have been! I loved being able to view my Excel docs, so I found a way to have them sync'd online directly from my desktop PC with Offisync, then view them with the Google Docs app.... wow, so difficult....
Bottom line, if you're gonna complain, first think about the fact that you may be complaining for no reason if there is an app, setting, or work-around available. Next, take the iPhone out of your @$$, sit down for once, and relax!!!

Just to clarify, this post does not only extend to people on this forum. All of the iPhone users that I know personally would not even entertain the idea of switching to another phone. Laugh at it really. Even when presented with facts.
I'm just sayin'.

I'll tell you what though. Being a user of both, the Android fanboys are MUCH worse than the iPhone fanboys now. In the past couple of months the Android fanboys have gotten incredibly obnoxious, and it's posts like this, in our own message board, where you still have to try and tell iPhone users how stupid they are that do it. Why don't you just grow up and let people choose what they like and be done. There's no reason that any iPhone user needs to entertain the idea of switching. If they are happy, then good for them, leave them alone. Trust me, I like the customizability of Android quite a bit, that's why I have an Android phone now that AT&T has one worth buying. A lot of people don't give a damn if you can root your phone and make it install apps that the iPhone doesn't have. These topics aren't necessary and only make it worse.

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I'll tell you what though. Being a user of both, the Android fanboys are MUCH worse than the iPhone fanboys now. In the past couple of months the Android fanboys have gotten incredibly obnoxious, and it's posts like this, in our own message board, where you still have to try and tell iPhone users how stupid they are that do it. Why don't you just grow up and let people choose what they like and be done. There's no reason that any iPhone user needs to entertain the idea of switching. If they are happy, then good for them, leave them alone. Trust me, I like the customizability of Android quite a bit, that's why I have an Android phone now that AT&T has one worth buying. A lot of people don't give a damn if you can root your phone and make it install apps that the iPhone doesn't have. These topics aren't necessary and only make it worse.
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You are missing the point ... i think both me and dewt are referring to iPhone users (friends) who try to argue tht iPhones are better than Android phones.
You havto agree tht Android is a competitor for iPhone and now when Android market is growing bigger, the iPhone users (3G , 3GS and 4) are always trying to condescend on the android users which should not be the case!

carporsche said:
You are missing the point ... i think both me and dewt are referring to iPhone users (friends) who try to argue tht iPhones are better than Android phones.
You havto agree tht Android is a competitor for iPhone and now when Android market is growing bigger, the iPhone users (3G , 3GS and 4) are always trying to condescend on the android users which should not be the case!
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I think you are actually missing the point. He was saying that while there have been conversations pointing out improvements that can be made based on iPhone user experience (GPS anyone?), no one here is arguing the iPhone is superior. Posts like dewts just make you look as rabid, ignorant, and uncompromising as the iPhone users you hate.

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I think you are actually missing the point. He was saying that while there have been conversations pointing out improvements that can be made based on iPhone user experience (GPS anyone?), no one here is arguing the iPhone is superior. Posts like dewts just make you look as rabid, ignorant, and uncompromising as the iPhone users you hate.
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Ok! maybe things are going off topic.. Lets stick to getting the best of our android devices!!
lets forget bout iPhones!!
Am surely Captivate(d) by my new Android device

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This thread is entirely unnecessary and as bad as iPhone owners complaining about the Captivate.
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I have seen a few users complain very harshly and unfairly compare this phone and the captivate. They like the iPhone so much they can't even see the good side of android.
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IPhone On XDA

Do you Think XDA should support iphone and ipad because you can make third party apps in themes?

yes
i think so i recently switched over to a 3gs coming from a htc pure (htc war hawk) the iphone is actually very customizable after you jail break. and there is a huge community behind it. XDA should create a area for both iphone and maybe the ipad

b14ck_h4wk said:
i think so i recently switched over to a 3gs coming from a htc pure (htc war hawk) the iphone is actually very customizable after you jail break. and there is a huge community behind it. XDA should create a area for both iphone and maybe the ipad
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Yes they should .I had contact them to maybe add it to xda.plus I got my iPhone 3GS like 3 to 4 days ago in it is customizable alot

Absolutely not. iphone is in no way related to XDA nor should the XDA community piss away valuable time to program for a company and community that hates modding and has tried in federal courts to block such activity. Exposing the XDA community to lawsuits and harassment from Apple should be avoided at all costs. The vast majority of the community here purchased their phones so they would NOT be part of the Apple idiocy and involved with a second set of parents. If you want to mod your iphone, there are many communities that already exist solely for that purpose.

If there were no jailbrake I would got bored with the iphone

iphone has its devs, and winmo and android have their devs. iphone and winmo/android are completely separate. they have their own forums. no need to ruin a good thing here at xda
-jd

They are not really different it just that Steve is a ass somtimes

Site for all 3 OS
Check out this site I had made for windowsmobile ,Android ,Apple IPhone and Ipad.Heres link http://iphonetechheck.webs.com/

What would be the purpose? There are already sooooo many iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad forums out there already.
Maybe I would feel differently if it was soley about upgrading old iPhones with Android OS (which would be a valid desire, especially for first-gen iPhone owners who Apple has abandoned), but there are already many established forums out there dealing with iOS.

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What would be the purpose? There are already sooooo many iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad forums out there already.
Maybe I would feel differently if it was soley about upgrading old iPhones with Android OS (which would be a valid desire, especially for first-gen iPhone owners who Apple has abandoned), but there are already many established forums out there dealing with iOS.
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Like right now my iPhone running a cool looking nexus theme now. In jailbreaking phone is just like when you all unlock your phone to get .The features you couldn't unlock.before now.plus he did add one .He can make it organize so you windows people and amAndroid users don't get mad at us iPhone users.But don't get me wrong I do have a tilt2 that I only have 5 days and the hp glisten but the iPhone is just better..it will be cool to have them just a backup phone or second phone to use maybe.

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Like right now my iPhone running a cool looking nexus theme now. In jailbreaking phone is just like when you all unlock your phone to get .The features you couldn't unlock.before now.plus he did add one .He can make it organize so you windows people and amAndroid users don't get mad at us iPhone users.But don't get me wrong I do have a tilt2 that I only have 5 days and the hp glisten but the iPhone is just better..it will be cool to have them just a backup phone or second phone to use maybe.
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I do understand jailbreaking, I just wonder what would be the benefit of an iPhone forum here, when there are already big iPhone forums out there like this for example:
http://modmyi.com/forums/
It would be like re-inventing the wheel, except there would be much fewer iPhone users here to answer your questions as compared to there.

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I do understand jailbreaking, I just wonder what would be the benefit of an iPhone forum here, when there are already big iPhone forums out there like this for example:
http://modmyi.com/forums/
It would be like re-inventing the wheel, except there would be much fewer iPhone users here to answer your questions as compared to there.
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But least they can have the option to add a section on here.or I can just add one to my site that I already have.but it Will be cooler if it was on here .http://iphonetechheck.webs.com/

I was always under the impression that XDA is mainly about HTC devices, with some exceptions for WinMo and Android phones by non-HTC companies.
But imagine the banter getting out of control and moving into flaming, particularly between Android and iPhone folks. That might cause problems, and it's not what the forum's here for.

Well...this forum was started out for HTC deving; it has expanded to some Motorola, Samsung, and other devices and the dominant force is WinMo and Android. Microsoft does not constantly try to sue over modification of WinMo phones. Google does not sue over modifications made to Android.
Apple on the other hand, is the reason that courts finally ruled under DMCA, that modifying a phone's encryption/code for personal use is legal.
Do you really want to attract that kind of attention to XDA? I know personally that I don't want a bunch of rabid Apple fanboys floating around the site, only for Steve Jobs to come in and attack it.
~Jasecloud4

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Well...this forum was started out for HTC deving; it has expanded to some Motorola, Samsung, and other devices and the dominant force is WinMo and Android. Microsoft does not constantly try to sue over modification of WinMo phones. Google does not sue over modifications made to Android.
Apple on the other hand, is the reason that courts finally ruled under DMCA, that modifying a phone's encryption/code for personal use is legal.
Do you really want to attract that kind of attention to XDA? I know personally that I don't want a bunch of rabid Apple fanboys floating around the site, only for Steve Jobs to come in and attack it.
~Jasecloud4
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Jailbreaking is now legal so now won't get attack by apple for doing anything to your phone.I'm typing this from iPhone just wanted to share that.I all ready send them a message would it be possible to add a section then if they don't then we could drop the topic . Just waiting for them to email now on the decision .

Umm...did you not read what I wrote? Apple sued in court repeatedly over jailbreaking and lost. I know it's LEGAL, however, throughout their company's history Apple has never been a gracious loser.
On top of which, many Android and WinMo users abhore the iPhone. I can only speak for myself, but I would leave XDA and never come back if an iPhone forum was added. There's just too much animosity between the different schools of thought for my taste.
Oil and water don't mix.
~Jasecloud4

you people rreally hate iphone and apple.I hate appple to thats why i jailbrake

Picture of IPhone3GS and 3G running Android on it one is nexus other one is HTC Sence hero somthing.

I could see a forum solely about running Android on the iPhone as being within the scope and culture of this forum, but there is already a forum for that too.
http://www.idroidproject.org/forum/index.php

wow ok but it looks better on here then there