I am considering getting an XZ (deciding between it and HTC 10) and would like to know the track record of Sony's commitment to firmware updates? It seems that the phone has been updated to the November security patch. Does it happen monthly like the Nexus and Blackberry, or it's more sporadic (once every few months) like the Huawei. I know that this phone is very new and may not have a lot of updates yet but if anyone is familiar with the Sony's track record, please let me know about it. Thank you in advance.
Sony track record for updates is not great. Usually toward the back of the list for Android version updates but fairly good for incremental improvement updates within the same Android version. Security patches quarterly at best.
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I think Sony is doing pretty well with the updates... They are not the fastest but yes they support their flagships for 18-24 months
long life with so many updates are waiting us, it's gonna take some time, but the updates will continue more than other companies take my last Xperia Z as an example ))
Sometimes they can drag there feet a bit, but otherwise one of the best oems regarding OS updates I think especially just recently.
Pretty sure all xperia flagship devices are usually around 2yrs, and all midrange xperia devices are 18mths.
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The big wait for updates on Xperia phones confuses me.
Everyone was dying for the big update to hit their Z3 / Z3c and then POW, battery became far, far worse.
Not sure what the up side is to most android version updates on Xperia.
Rare exception to this was the really great improvement to the Z4/Z3+ regarding heat and battery drain.
You typically get a couple of years and a couple of major Android upgrades on Sony flagships, so that's the good news. The bad news is that they do sometimes withhold newer software features to newer models, and that security patches take a good while to come. (And even once available within Sony, can take a good 2-3 months to be released across most regions.)
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Now sony official release the update upcoming to Xperia devices for 4.3 update..
From Sony
Last week you probably saw Google announce Android version 4.4; Kit Kat…
We’ve seen lots of questions on our Android upgrade roadmap and equally, we have lots to tell you, so here’s a note on just that…
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
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So XL is not getting 4.3...what a surprise.At least now I know that Sony support on mid-range and low-end devices is crap....the only big thing they did for us was to update to 4.2.2,however this update also have bugs so I don't see any difference between sony official support and custom rom.If someone doesn't start to work on a CM soon we'll be stuck with this 4.2.2 until we can manage to get a new phone....sony mid range phone?never again
Well, wrath of users was expected and even I wanted Sony to give 4.3 or 4.4 update.
But seriously have you even seen a mid-range phone getting more than one android version update? I think the answer is NO.
Sony has still handled Xperia L quite well and we should patiently wait for bug fix update of our latest 4.2.2 build.
And don't lose hope on CM ever, its just a matter of time. Even development of my other awesome phone(HTC Explorer) started after a lot of time and now it has fully working CM10.2. See, the phone was launched with 2.3 and was completely abandoned by HTC but it has one of the best developments for legacy devices. So, don't lose hope and keep calm.
Lol... I'm switching to Google nexus.. Sony can go **** themselves. It's stupid that they're not bothered to release atleast 4.3 when our phone was released just about 6 months ago, just wow.
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Lol... I'm switching to Google nexus.. Sony can go **** themselves. It's stupid that they're not bothered to release atleast 4.3 when our phone was released just about 6 months ago, just wow.
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Yea, next time will be nexus...
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joel113- said:
Lol... I'm switching to Google nexus.. Sony can go **** themselves. It's stupid that they're not bothered to release atleast 4.3 when our phone was released just about 6 months ago, just wow.
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Well, Nexus does give you freedom and choices of lots of custom roms. It's price is great and it's very good phone. I have Nexus 4 and I do like it. I will certainly recommend it. The only thing you need to think is how long you intend to use it. Buying the every latest devices is not very wise as you spend alot of your money for just one or two extra features.
I think to update my Nexus 7 2013 in 2015 and my Nexus 4 Next year (October 2014) while Xperia L around when it is required. I would be using it for a couple of years too I believe. Following this scheme I always have the latest device with me and I also do not spend a lot of money. (700-800 British Pounds every three year, considering that I am a Medicine Student and under a lot of loan already). Also what is more to look is that my old devices are still doing a great job. I recently installed CM 10.2(JB 4.3) in HTC Sensation and it runs just as smooth as Nexus 4/Xperia L for the matter. The software is stable and I can play HD games on 786MB RAM only.
Another point to note is that KitKat 4.4 has only been released for about a week now and I am using 4.3 on my two year old HTC sensation using Custom ROM.
Now most of manufacturers are working hard on ONLY hardware. Even phones released two years ago are doing very well till date. However, if you look into software department and games, you can still play all of latest games on these devices very smoothly. I will give you examples of HTC sensation/Incredible S, Samsung Nexus, SII or any other phone of that time with almost similar hardware. I have checked MC4/Fifa 14/Asphlat 8 personally on all of these devices. Also with KITKAT 4.4, Android has gone into a surge to speed up system by 50% and that's just beginning.
You might be wondering, the new ROMS are not available. Well actually they are but custom made. If you check out Android development of these phones, you will be surprised that many developers are giving their best to just work hard on new ROMS and they are all great.
The only drawback that I see is of Nexus devices is that it doesnot have a removable battery. This is just a big draw back for me as I keep three devices and I update each one annually so this means that I need to change my nexus after using it for around 2 years to 3 years. In this time, I need to change my battery as battery does get worn out and damaged. But I just can not easily do that although it can be done but usually nexus batteries are hard to find comparatively.
Remember to always BUY A DEVICE WHICH IS DEVELOPERS FRIENDLY. You won't find much ROMS for HTC Amaze although it has almost the same specification as HTC sensation.
About Xperia L, usually a manufacturer updates it devices for around 18 months in high end devices and around the same time for middle ranged devices or maybe 12 months. When will Kitkat be available for Xperia L? It might take a long time (first all new high end devices Z1 and Z ultra, then recent high end devices and then the lower and middle end devices)
I clearly see why there isnot a chance for Xperia L to directly jump to 4.4 or maybe this is what I am hoping to use Xperia L in the long run.
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Well, Nexus does give you freedom and choices of lots of custom roms. It's price is great and it's very good phone. I have Nexus 4 and I do like it. I will certainly recommend it. The only thing you need to think is how long you intend to use it. Buying the every latest devices is not very wise as you spend alot of your money for just one or two extra features.
I think to update my Nexus 7 2013 in 2015 and my Nexus 4 Next year (October 2014) while Xperia L around when it is required. I would be using it for a couple of years too I believe. Following this scheme I always have the latest device with me and I also do not spend a lot of money. (700-800 British Pounds every three year, considering that I am a Medicine Student and under a lot of loan already). Also what is more to look is that my old devices are still doing a great job. I recently installed CM 10.2(JB 4.3) in HTC Sensation and it runs just as smooth as Nexus 4/Xperia L for the matter. The software is stable and I can play HD games on 786MB RAM only.
Another point to note is that KitKat 4.4 has only been released for about a week now and I am using 4.3 on my two year old HTC sensation using Custom ROM.
Now most of manufacturers are working hard on ONLY hardware. Even phones released two years ago are doing very well till date. However, if you look into software department and games, you can still play all of latest games on these devices very smoothly. I will give you examples of HTC sensation/Incredible S, Samsung Nexus, SII or any other phone of that time with almost similar hardware. I have checked MC4/Fifa 14/Asphlat 8 personally on all of these devices. Also with KITKAT 4.4, Android has gone into a surge to speed up system by 50% and that's just beginning.
You might be wondering, the new ROMS are not available. Well actually they are but custom made. If you check out Android development of these phones, you will be surprised that many developers are giving their best to just work hard on new ROMS and they are all great.
The only drawback that I see is of Nexus devices is that it doesnot have a removable battery. This is just a big draw back for me as I keep three devices and I update each one annually so this means that I need to change my nexus after using it for around 2 years to 3 years. In this time, I need to change my battery as battery does get worn out and damaged. But I just can not easily do that although it can be done but usually nexus batteries are hard to find comparatively.
Remember to always BUY A DEVICE WHICH IS DEVELOPERS FRIENDLY. You won't find much ROMS for HTC Amaze although it has almost the same specification as HTC sensation.
About Xperia L, usually a manufacturer updates it devices for around 18 months in high end devices and around the same time for middle ranged devices or maybe 12 months. When will Kitkat be available for Xperia L? It might take a long time (first all new high end devices Z1 and Z ultra, then recent high end devices and then the lower and middle end devices)
I clearly see why there isnot a chance for Xperia L to directly jump to 4.4 or maybe this is what I am hoping to use Xperia L in the long run.
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Agreed
Maybe nexus 5 would be a good choice.
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About Xperia L, usually a manufacturer updates it devices for around 18 months in high end devices and around the same time for middle ranged devices or maybe 12 months. When will Kitkat be available for Xperia L? It might take a long time (first all new high end devices Z1 and Z ultra, then recent high end devices and then the lower and middle end devices)
I clearly see why there isnot a chance for Xperia L to directly jump to 4.4 or maybe this is what I am hoping to use Xperia L in the long run.
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You are right,but XL is 6-7 months old,and if mid-range device get 12 month support this makes 5-6 months support more.I think that is enough time to make 4.3(why not 4.4...) update where all the bugs that are present in 4.2.2 are fixed.
Who knows,maybe we will see bugfree update some day
How my im so suprised ! About that ,..
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Agreed
Maybe nexus 5 would be a good choice.
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Buying a phone?
check this out :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47227668#post47227668
I will never buy sony phones if they won't update xperia L to 4.4 kitkat
Bye Sony!
I've got myself an Xp-L and if Sony abandons it in 4.2.2 (which very likely is), I will never buy any Sony phone, ever.
come on people. this is the 'first draft', simply meaning that these will be the first phones which will get the update. i.e sony has prioritized them. they will be working the update for these devices and then come to other phones. and if you are saying like ' i wont buy sony phone ever again' then good luck with other manufacturers mid-range devices.
I said that I won't buy Sony too...but if I think about it...Samsung makes expensive devices, LG is no better than Sony in terms of updates and hardware...and others aren't so trustworthy... So I guess I'll be sticking with Sony until I'll afford a high end device. Then I'll really have a choice.
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I just wanna say just chillax guys!! Updates will come when the right time comes! Just read this link to calm down!
http://www.androidsas.com/2013/11/the-world-will-not-see-gingerbread.html?m=1
What do you need from 4.3 or 4.4 ?
I have seen a lot of complaints here "when we will get 4.3 or 4.4) and so on and so on. My question to all of you whiners out there is as following, what do you need 4.4 or 4.3 for ? Is there something in this version that you ppl need or is it just need to have latest version of OS so that you can brag about or what ?
I uppgrade ONLY when there is a bugfix or something that I actually NEED. If it says 4.1 or 15.2 on my android has no point whatsoever in my world. What is imprtant that my does what is designed to do and Xperia XL even with 4.1 is just fine. Stop whining and actually use that phone for waht is intended for.
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I have seen a lot of complaints here "when we will get 4.3 or 4.4) and so on and so on. My question to all of you whiners out there is as following, what do you need 4.4 or 4.3 for ? Is there something in this version that you ppl need or is it just need to have latest version of OS so that you can brag about or what ?
I uppgrade ONLY when there is a bugfix or something that I actually NEED. If it says 4.1 or 15.2 on my android has no point whatsoever in my world. What is imprtant that my does what is designed to do and Xperia XL even with 4.1 is just fine. Stop whining and actually use that phone for waht is intended for.
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True! But what is going here is that if Sony can bring us the update like other phones then why not?
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I hope Xperia L get KitKat or at least 4.3 someday. If it doesn't get any update and stuck at 4.2, you Sony, will see LG/Samsung on my ****ing signature!!!
If the updates are so importants buy a nexus!!!
And then you people have the last OS android...
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Need update to fix the bug just that ! . , waste money if using a smarthphone got many bugs ,
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So how many be in the future for a new phone soon(ish) and was wondering how dev support fairs on the Sony devices. At a cursory glance everything seems pretty solid but that isn't really much of an indication of every day usage or how friendly development for a device is.
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So how many be in the future for a new phone soon(ish) and was wondering how dev support fairs on the Sony devices. At a cursory glance everything seems pretty solid but that isn't really much of an indication of every day usage or how friendly development for a device is.
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Usually Support for Sony Flagships is pretty good, can be used as a daily driver. I think for Z3 (not dual variant) you would not regret buying the phone. However sony is very slow to update its phones but flagships support is good.
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Usually Support for Sony Flagships is pretty good, can be used as a daily driver. I think for Z3 (not dual variant) you would not regret buying the phone. However sony is very slow to update its phones but flagships support is good.
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Welp. I'm all on the Z3 train now! I don't mind being somewhat slow as there are times it feels like even nexus devices take forever to get updates if you aren't on the absolute newest device.
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Welp. I'm all on the Z3 train now! I don't mind being somewhat slow as there are times it feels like even nexus devices take forever to get updates if you aren't on the absolute newest device.
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Glad to hear that you like Z3 but I will disagree with your Nexus updates being slow. Nexus are the devices which bring the latest android version andvery quickly updated. If you are talking a about HTC Nexus 9, I'll blame tegra more because how they are with their device blobs and support. This is what usually causes delay. Snapdragon Nexus were updated pretty quickly. Of course LTE versions are a bit slow.
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Glad to hear that you like Z3 but I will disagree with your Nexus updates being slow. Nexus are the devices which bring the latest android version andvery quickly updated. If you are talking a about HTC Nexus 9, I'll blame tegra more because how they are with their device blobs and support. This is what usually causes delay. Snapdragon Nexus were updated pretty quickly. Of course LTE versions are a bit slow.
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I was on an LTE Nexus 5 so that may be why.
Hey everyone! According to the the Sony update roadmap Sony Xperia XA was supposed to be updated sometime in early 2017 (Jan-March) but it's May now.. I want the update asap Does anyone knows when will we get update????? thank you!
Samsung has already rolled out the Nougat update for Galaxy A5 (2016) users in Russia, it is also important to note that Sammy's version of Android is more customized than Sony's.
So this is how Sony treats consumers who bought their mid-range phones, my next Android phone is going to be either a Pixel or a Samsung one.
Sony is awful with support for mid range phones.Check at this we really are the last ones to get it!
http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaxa/kb/8019307401646073d015693290721003ab2/
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Samsung has already rolled out the Nougat update for Galaxy A5 (2016) users in Russia, it is also important to note that Sammy's version of Android is more customized than Sony's.
So this is how Sony treats consumers who bought their mid-range phones, my next Android phone is going to be either a Pixel or a Samsung one.
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I agree with you. My previous experience with Sony is good actually. I had a Flagship though.. (Xperia Z3). Pixel isn't officially available here in UAE. They are available here unofficially but they would cost me around whopping 800-900$! I won't switch to Samsung because I prefer Stock UI and Sony's UI. I thought of switching to Huawei but they aren't good with the Software updates either. (Security patches..). I would switch to Nokia 6 or 5 whenever its available at my place.
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Sony is awful with support for mid range phones.Check at this we really are the last ones to get it!
http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaxa/kb/8019307401646073d015693290721003ab2/
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I know right.. According to a 'Leaked' Roadmap we were supposed to get nougat in 'Early 2017' and now almost half of the 2017 has passed away.
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I know right.. According to a 'Leaked' Roadmap we were supposed to get nougat in 'Early 2017' and now almost half of the 2017 has passed away.
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Yes it's soo frustrating!! But Coming soon, patient i think all flagships should get Nougat and Sony will realise the update for XA.it's sony policy about their mid range phones.no guat will improve battery performance and camera quality plus software update to make Xperia XA Dual VoLTE compatible on Jio network and etc...
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Yes it's soo frustrating!! But Coming soon, patient i think all flagships should get Nougat and Sony will realise the update for XA.it's sony policy about their mid range phones.no guat will improve battery performance and camera quality plus software update to make Xperia XA Dual VoLTE compatible on Jio network and etc...
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Jio network? What's that? Oh yeah. They will release nougat for XA in 1-5 weeks :
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Samsung has already rolled out the Nougat update for Galaxy A5 (2016) users in Russia, it is also important to note that Sammy's version of Android is more customized than Sony's.
So this is how Sony treats consumers who bought their mid-range phones, my next Android phone is going to be either a Pixel or a Samsung one.
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Agree with you. This is a big disappointment from Sony. I had a Xperia M2 Aqua and the Lollipop update didn't take so long (like 2 months). Also this phone has a lot of bugs (the battery drain, some xposed modules make crash the phone, apps like YouTube sometimes stop working). My next phone will be a Galaxy, Sony's phone quality decreased the last years.
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Agree with you. This is a big disappointment from Sony. I had a Xperia M2 Aqua and the Lollipop update didn't take so long (like 2 months). Also this phone has a lot of bugs (the battery drain, some xposed modules make crash the phone, apps like YouTube sometimes stop working). My next phone will be a Galaxy, Sony's phone quality decreased the last years.
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Scamsung mid-range devices are not better and have some problems too. If you compare XA with S7 or S8 you will make me laugh for hours.
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Agree with you. This is a big disappointment from Sony. I had a Xperia M2 Aqua and the Lollipop update didn't take so long (like 2 months). Also this phone has a lot of bugs (the battery drain, some xposed modules make crash the phone, apps like YouTube sometimes stop working). My next phone will be a Galaxy, Sony's phone quality decreased the last years.
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Think you'll find the lollipop update for the m2 took almost 6mths to arrive from it being announced(may) to it actually arriving (beginning of October). The Nougat update for the xa is its final update so don't expect it before the device is at least a year on the market it'll probably arrive in the autumn some time
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Annoyingly they'll probably give us 7.0 and not 7.1, all this delay and still not the very latest version. Though only time will tell-my XA is running flawlessly on MM.
Lesson Learned!
Last Sony device I purchase! Never seen such terrible support and developers. If I had missed deadlines by several months, I would no longer be working where I currently work. Unacceptable!
Thinking of buying the Mate 10/10pro non-China version. However would like to know how frequent are the updates the international versions receive. So how many rom updates did you Mate 9 users receive in one year ? State your country as well as it might vary by region.
Don't expect much if updates are your priority then don't buy this phone. Buy google or oneplus. If you want stable ios like experience with all the perks of android go ahead and buy the mate.
I'm from the Netherlands and have had about 5 to 6 updates this year.
Doesn't bother me that much really, it's a rock solid and stable phone anyways.
Oreo incoming soon.
Yeah that's about right, 5 or 6 in the last 11 months for the C432.
There's been 15 updates since 2016-11-23 for MHA-L29C432... Not all have been pushed to everyone though.
If you are buying a phone, under the pretense of updates, stick with the Apple iPhone, or the Google Nexus/Pixel phones.
Most other manufacturers do not provide timely updates.
I've had 3 Huawei phones. The Mate 2, 8 and now the 9 which I picked up about a month ago. I keep coming back to
Huawei for a couple reasons. The BATTERY SIZE, the value, and how stable they are. Even with the SD400 processor
and 720p screen of the Mate2, coupled with the Nova Launcher, the phone was VERY stable, snappy and performed well.
My 2, came with Jelly Bean, they pretty much skipped KitKat, and went to Lollipop, and had they not given the ability to
easily switch back, I probably would have skipped Lollipop. My 8 came with Marshmelow, and did not receive Nougat 7
until April of 2017, but 6 was very stable.
What I'm trying to say is unless you just got to have the latest version of OS, or, require the frequent security patches,
the stock OS, at least for my use, has been VERY stable, that I have not even bothered to unlock or root my phones.
What little bloat, and, there hasn't been much, was easy to either uninstall, or block.
They are good solid phones, very well made, and for me a great value.
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If you are buying a phone, under the pretense of updates, stick with the Apple iPhone, or the Google Nexus/Pixel phones.
Most other manufacturers do not provide timely updates.
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Add Sony to this list.
I bought Sony Xperia XZ (F8332) to my wife at same time when I bought Mate 9.
I noticed that Sony released following updates on to XZ:
Android 6.0.1 - 2 updates
Android 7.0 - 5 updates
Android 7.1.1 - 7 updates
Now we are waiting for Android 8 and XZ has big chances to this update.
In the past we had other Sony phone - Xperia ZL. And it got 3 major versions of Android.
I'm very excited how Sony does update cycle!
I'm considering to buy Xperia 5 ii on sale as successor to my OnePlus 6, but want to know how many software updates, major/ Android versions and security, Sony promises. If it's equal or worse to what OnePlus does these days, I'm not buying Sony. Then I rather get Samsung I think.
I can't find any other sources for this informations than a japanese news site, quoted/ covered by gsmarena and others.
https://androidnext.info/?p=6409
https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_...will_get_android_13_rumor_says-news-45044.php
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/sony-xperia-1-ii-and-xperia-5-ii-could-get-android-11-12-and-13
Anyone have a credible source on what Sony promises in regards to software/ firmware updates for Sony Xperia 5 ii?
Something like this, just for Sony, would be nice.
https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...g-to-three-generations-of-android-os-upgrades
Found nothing relevant in Sony press releases.
https://presscentre.sony.eu/pressreleases/tag/mobile#filter-list-items
I can't really give you an official source but as an unofficial source (eg. Owner of Xperia 5 II) then I've been impressed with the regularity of updates .
They seem to follow the standard Android security update frequency pretty closely.
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I can't really give you an official source but as an unofficial source (eg. Owner of Xperia 5 II) then I've been impressed with the regularity of updates .
They seem to follow the standard Android security update frequency pretty closely.
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That counts for something at least. Thanks for the insight.
I think Google minimum requirements is 2 years major, 3 years security. Samsung peomises 3 years major and 5 years security for all Galaxy phones. Would be great if Sony promised the same for their phones, at least the premium ones.
I still have my OnePlus 6 in almost mint condition, the Evutec aramid case is doing a great job protecting it (and so am I). Keeping a phone for at least three years is not that unlikely. Or 2.5 years, as I'll be buying into Xperia 5 II at >0.5 years late.
I contacted Sony support about this, and just received an answer.
Dear Olav,
Thank you for your email.
Your case number is: 22xxxxxx.
I am glad to hear that you are interested in our Xperia 5 II.
Unfortunately we do not have any information that we can share with you regarding future software updates.
I wish a had a more concrete answer to your question, however this is not information we have available or are able to procure.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again, should you need any further assistance. I wish you a pleasant day.
Med vennlig hilsen,
Xxxxx
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Don't know if I'm willing to risk getting disappointed then.
Now OnePlus also have promised to keep their flagship phones updated longer than Android minimum, with 3 years OS and 4 years security.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...se-and-software-maintenance-schedule.1462181/
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...android-upgrades-four-years-security-updates/
Where you at Sony?
The latest Sony flagship phones had received two major updates I believe, which indicates that 5ii would receive Android 12 and nothing more. I saw a rumor that updates would be extended to three major updates but have not seen anything official.
A little sad.
Sony officially supports AOSP. So even if you won't get OTA updates after 2 years, you will be able to build and install much newer Android version for a few years. Although you will probably lose "proprietary" features like audio/video enhancement or photo pro.