Automatic System Update Disabled - Still Got notification? - Google Pixel Questions & Answers

So I SWEAR I saw this mentioned somewhere earlier today but after searching I can't seem to locate it.
As the title says. I have Automatic system updates turned OFF. Turned that off right after I got it unlocked and rooted.
Verizon Pixel XL NDE63P
Today I get a notification regarding Android 7.1 Update. I didn't tap on it, couldn't clear it. Was concerned that the update might auto install without my permission or something. Well that hasn't happened, and NOW the notification is gone. I don't want to update yet...
I was thinking that turning off automatic system updates would mean it wouldn't even check to know there was an update. Am I going to be living with a nag that comes back with a hair trigger update button. Had that on Samsungs in the past. Will make you crazy always having to tell it NO try tomorrow every day...
Just wanted to see if anyone had seen this behavior or if I was just loosing my marbles here.
Thanks!

Screwit, just sideloaded the update. Everything is good, unlocked, rooted, customer kernel etc...

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[Q] Received ICS OTA, then it disappeared!!

The weirdest damn thing happened to me...I received a system update available notification (i.e. ICS) as I was going to bed. I thought I'd just do it in the morning. When I woke up, the notification was gone, and if i try to go to manually do a system update, it says device is up to date.
anyone experience such an issue, and how can I resolve this?
thanks
Same thing happened to me. I was on 3G and decided when I get home I'd use wifi to download and update. Now it says up to date.
so weird!! all other updates previously would remain for days... anyone find a solution to this yet?
Same happened to me to this morning, it disappeared
alizawi said:
The weirdest damn thing happened to me...I received a system update available notification (i.e. ICS) as I was going to bed. I thought I'd just do it in the morning. When I woke up, the notification was gone, and if i try to go to manually do a system update, it says device is up to date.
anyone experience such an issue, and how can I resolve this?
thanks
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wait or
you can update ics by making manual promotion
I prefer to avoid manual for two reasons:
1- I still believe the actual OTA version varies slightly than what is claimed to be the official OTA release in zip format. Little touches are always done before pushing an OTA update.
2- I have a broken power button, so can't do much in bootloader, or even get into it.
Perhaps google took it back to do some more bug fixing. But I'd like to hear an official statement if that's the case
szk5230 said:
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you can update ics by making manual promotion
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Please explain. I've tried:
Checkin
System Updates
Resetting phone.
Seems like the update was pulled. No matter what I do it says the phone is up to date. With all these stories of people bricking their phones I want to stay relatively legit.
alizawi said:
The weirdest damn thing happened to me...I received a system update available notification (i.e. ICS) as I was going to bed. I thought I'd just do it in the morning. When I woke up, the notification was gone, and if i try to go to manually do a system update, it says device is up to date.
anyone experience such an issue, and how can I resolve this?
thanks
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Same thing. When I heard google started pushing ICS, I flashed back my nandroid backup of my stock 2.3.4 to get the OTA update, Immediately I got 2.3.6 update and installed it, and few hours later when I wasn't home I got the 4.0.3 update, and I thought I'll do it when I get home, but then it disappeared and doesn't comes back no matter what I do.
I did backup to the corrent stock (2.3.6) and tried to flash back to 2.3.4, thought maybe it will push me again, but now it doesn't push me 2.3.6 either.
Are OTA updates one-time only ? or it supposed push me 2.3.6 again ?
anyways I restored 2.3.6 and I wait hopefully to 4.0.3 again.
Please update here if you know any solution. I know I can install it manually, but I prefer clean OTA version.
after I update to ICS manually, the VPN doesnot work, so I flashed back to 2.3.6 and want to update by OTA.
but till then, the 2.3.6 system says it's up to date...
looks like it's pulled by google...hopefully for some enhancements... still waiting for something official
we had it in our hands and we lost it
Same story.
Last night I saw the system update notification and after 30' (charging the battery) I lost it.
I suppose it's due to issues with ICS 4.0.3. For example I can't make outgoing calls (SMS, incomming calls and data - works fine). Had to revert back to 2.3.6. Now everything works. So for two days i saw update notification and today it dissapeared. So I hope they found a problem and will fix it soon.
yeah, I guess I'm glad I didn't install it then. I'm sure it was pulled for a valid reason, so it's best to wait...fingers crossed that it won't be too long of a wait.
In the mean time I think I need to get my power button fixed, or hope the widgetlocker works on ICS so I can use my volume locker to wake the screen!!
yeah, I guess I'm glad I didn't install it then. I'm sure it was pulled for a valid reason, so it's best to wait...fingers crossed that it won't be too long of a wait.
In the mean time I think I need to get my power button fixed, or hope the widgetlocker works on ICS so I can use my volume locker to wake the screen!!
Not an official story by any means but it looks like there is definitely something going on.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/12/20/g...te-for-nexus-s-over-purported-battery-issues/
EDIT: I just noticed one of his sources links back here.

Stop constant updates

OK...I've had this phone for a month and a half and today was the third software update notification I've gotten. REALLY? I've installed both the other updates, and I don't want to be forced to install any more. "I" want to decide when to update, not anyone else. I've turned off all notifications....how do I keep the phone from auto-updating? I've learned how to get to the developer options...turned off auto updates, but they still show up. Is there a way to REALLY turn them off, or am I at the mercy of AT&T and Samsung?

How do I stop a system update while downloading?

I have an HTC 10. I have heard so many horror stories on significant battery drain issue after the Oreo update so I have not updated to Oreo yet. I have read somewhere the issue has been resolved on Android's end but there is no more update on the HTC end to incorporate this update for the HTC 10. So every time the Oreo system update prompt came up I did not allow to update to proceed. I had it set to update only on WIFI and always ask me prior.
This morning I must have accidentally hit OK when the prompt came up while I was scrolling the screen for something else and it started to update. I immediately turned off WIFI but it continued the download with my mobile data. So I turned off mobile data as well on my phone. Right now I am at:
Software Update: 3.16.617.2 (1.32GB) Download is paused because your data connection was lost.
Shows a status bar at 3%.
I cannot find a way to cancel or stop this download and subsequent update. Is there a way?
I tried long press on the download screen, the Updater only has options of: Block all, Show silently, On the lock screen, Override do not disturb, all having to do with notification presentations but nothing to cancel the download altogether.
I went into Settings > Apps and popped up Device Configuration and did a FORCE STOP. that didn't do anything. There is an option there to UNINSTALL UPDATES but I didn't touch it since the update hasn't started yet and not sure if this app even deal with system updates.
Just tried a Wipe Cache Partition and rebooted. The system download is still being queued. There is no way to stop this?
I am surprise it will continue to download this huge file even with WIFI off. I had it set to not download any updates unless WIFI, but I guess now I understand it means this is only checked when download started, once it started it will download on my cellular network if WIFI goes out of range? This is a poor design.
Now if I let it download, is there a way to stop the update once the download is completed?
I went ahead and turned on WIFI to allow the downloading to complete. Once it completed it asked me about installing with two options:
Install Now
Install Later
I selected Install Later and it gave me a choice of being reminded again in:
30 minutes
1 hour
2 hours
4 hours
So I selected 4 hours and dismissed it for now. It will ask again in 4 hours, I assume there is no way to dismiss it for a month or a year.
So now I have two questions:
(1) Is there a way to disable this reminder prompt?
(2) Where is this downloaded file? Can I find it with a file manager and delete it? and if it is deleted will it trigger an auto download again or will it go back to just prompting me to download once in a while like before?
miamicuse said:
I went ahead and turned on WIFI to allow the downloading to complete. Once it completed it asked me about installing with two options:
Install Now
Install Later
I selected Install Later and it gave me a choice of being reminded again in:
30 minutes
1 hour
2 hours
4 hours
So I selected 4 hours and dismissed it for now. It will ask again in 4 hours, I assume there is no way to dismiss it for a month or a year.
So now I have two questions:
(1) Is there a way to disable this reminder prompt?
(2) Where is this downloaded file? Can I find it with a file manager and delete it? and if it is deleted will it trigger an auto download again or will it go back to just prompting me to download once in a while like before?
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There may or may not be a method to disable the update notification but it will require root. You'll probably have to figure out how to disable the notification for yourself.
Try doing a Google search for:
"Disable update notification (your model number)"
Or
"Disable update notification on android"
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well,it just get better and better LOL.
I didn't want to install the system update, but it happened, accidentally. I was out and about, and was in a middle of texting someone, and for a split second while I typed, the system update screen popped up. Since I was in the middle of typing, it took my typing as a confirmation to "Install Now" and began the update. Never mind I only had 31% of battery left at that time and never mind I was not even home and needed the phone. I just can't imagine Google never even bothered with a "Are you sure you want to update now?" prompt. Incredible.
So after it finished the update, a good 30 minutes later, it rebooted, then did more updates, rebooted, and eventually, it started up again, and a lock screen pattern dialog popped up. I put in my pattern and it says it is not recognized. I am certain the pattern is the one I set. Yet something caused the correct pattern to not be recognized. So now I no longer can access my phone. It says I have 28 more tries before it deletes all phone data.
So now I am totally crippled without a chance to even back up all my data.
Anyone know of a way to bypass the lock screen pattern?
If I have to factory reset in order to access my phone again, will the reset bring back Android 7 (original delivered version of the phone) or will it be Oreo (new updated version)?
miamicuse said:
well,it just get better and better LOL.
I didn't want to install the system update, but it happened, accidentally. I was out and about, and was in a middle of texting someone, and for a split second while I typed, the system update screen popped up. Since I was in the middle of typing, it took my typing as a confirmation to "Install Now" and began the update. Never mind I only had 31% of battery left at that time and never mind I was not even home and needed the phone. I just can't imagine Google never even bothered with a "Are you sure you want to update now?" prompt. Incredible.
So after it finished the update, a good 30 minutes later, it rebooted, then did more updates, rebooted, and eventually, it started up again, and a lock screen pattern dialog popped up. I put in my pattern and it says it is not recognized. I am certain the pattern is the one I set. Yet something caused the correct pattern to not be recognized. So now I no longer can access my phone. It says I have 28 more tries before it deletes all phone data.
So now I am totally crippled without a chance to even back up all my data.
Anyone know of a way to bypass the lock screen pattern?
If I have to factory reset in order to access my phone again, will the reset bring back Android 7 (original delivered version of the phone) or will it be Oreo (new updated version)?
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If you want to keep all of your data intact, root the device, then try this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620456
Or this:
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/change-remove-lockscreen-pattern-pin-password-adb-android-oreo/
Or, you can factory reset via recovery, it will wipe all of your data though.
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I have found myself in almost the same situation as the OP.
Like the OP, I don't want to upgrade to Oreo, but somehow did something that my phone interpreted as asking it to start downloading the update. Since my system update is set to download only on WiFi, turning off WiFi stopped the download at 0% done.
*Unlike* the OP, my phone is still in the state of having not yet downloaded the update, so I'm still (for now) securely on Nougat. But my notification bar icon now shows the animated download arrow, and the notification shade shows my system update as "Queued". I'm guessing that this is causing extra battery drain, and it's also really annoying.
I've tried a web search on cancelling a scheduled Android update, and found some interesting information suggesting that I stop the DMClient app. But this wasn't specific to either my phone or to a 7-8 upgrade, and I couldn't find an app by that name installed on my phone. I think I found something else recommending that I stop the Google Play services app and clear its cache. I *do* see that app, but I don't feel like experimenting with random web advice, and so thought I'd check here.
Here are two questions:
1) Is there anything I can do to stop my phone from trying to download and install the Oreo update?
2) If I do a factory reset, which Android would I be on after the reset?
Thanks for any help!
LLGreenGuy said:
I have found myself in almost the same situation as the OP.
Like the OP, I don't want to upgrade to Oreo, but somehow did something that my phone interpreted as asking it to start downloading the update. Since my system update is set to download only on WiFi, turning off WiFi stopped the download at 0% done.
*Unlike* the OP, my phone is still in the state of having not yet downloaded the update, so I'm still (for now) securely on Nougat. But my notification bar icon now shows the animated download arrow, and the notification shade shows my system update as "Queued". I'm guessing that this is causing extra battery drain, and it's also really annoying.
I've tried a web search on cancelling a scheduled Android update, and found some interesting information suggesting that I stop the DMClient app. But this wasn't specific to either my phone or to a 7-8 upgrade, and I couldn't find an app by that name installed on my phone. I think I found something else recommending that I stop the Google Play services app and clear its cache. I *do* see that app, but I don't feel like experimenting with random web advice, and so thought I'd check here.
Here are two questions:
1) Is there anything I can do to stop my phone from trying to download and install the Oreo update?
2) If I do a factory reset, which Android would I be on after the reset?
Thanks for any help!
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Flash the marshmallow firmware for your device via PC using your devices specific flashtool. It will remove everything and put you back to what you had before triggering the update.
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Droidriven said:
Flash the marshmallow firmware for your device via PC using your devices specific flashtool. It will remove everything and put you back to what you had before triggering the update.
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Thanks for the response, Droidriven.
I actually figured out a way to stop the phone trying to download the update, which I'll describe below, but first I have two questions about the solution you offered: Is there a reason you said to flash Marshmallow firmwaer rather than Nougat, since the update I'm trying to avoid is the one to Oreo? And, if I did that, how would I get back to Nougat?
But I said that I figured out a solution, and I hope that it may help if someone else finds themselves in my situation. Here is what I did:
1) I determined that the app trying to perform the update on my HTC 10 is a system app called "Updater"
I found this by long-clicking on the notification shade item about the update, and selecting more information. The phone displayed notification options for the Updater app.
2) I cleared cache and data for the Updater app
I went to Updater's app info page via via Settings >> Apps >> All apps. Updater is a system app, so I had to use the kebab menu in the upper right corner of the All apps screen to tell the phone to display system apps. Once there, I went to the "Storage" screen and cleared cache and data.
3) I restarted the phone, and "cleaned up" after what I had done
When my phone powered back on after the restart, there was *nothing* at all related to a system update in the notification bar. I turned on cellular data (but left WiFi off), and went to Settings >> About >> Software Updates. The phone checked for a few seconds, during which I could see (behind the "checking" popup) that the box for downloading only over WiFi was clear. This made sense, since this setting must be an option for the app I had just wiped. After maybe 15 seconds, the phone displayed a screen offering me the 3.16.617.2 system update. I used the back button to close that window, which left me on the screen where I could re-check the option to download system updates only over WiFi. Naturally, I re-checked this option.
That's it. My phone is now once again displaying a notification bar icon offering me the Oreo update, but it no longer thinks I told it to proceed with this update. I have been on WiFi a couple of times since doing this, and the phone has not tried to start the download.
I'm guessing that I could get this notification bar icon to go away by hiding notifications for the Updater app, but have not yet done so.
Thanks again, Droidriven, and I hope what I figured out is helpful to someone else.
LLGreenGuy said:
Thanks for the response, Droidriven.
I actually figured out a way to stop the phone trying to download the update, which I'll describe below, but first I have two questions about the solution you offered: Is there a reason you said to flash Marshmallow firmwaer rather than Nougat, since the update I'm trying to avoid is the one to Oreo? And, if I did that, how would I get back to Nougat?
But I said that I figured out a solution, and I hope that it may help if someone else finds themselves in my situation. Here is what I did:
1) I determined that the app trying to perform the update on my HTC 10 is a system app called "Updater"
I found this by long-clicking on the notification shade item about the update, and selecting more information. The phone displayed notification options for the Updater app.
2) I cleared cache and data for the Updater app
I went to Updater's app info page via via Settings >> Apps >> All apps. Updater is a system app, so I had to use the kebab menu in the upper right corner of the All apps screen to tell the phone to display system apps. Once there, I went to the "Storage" screen and cleared cache and data.
3) I restarted the phone, and "cleaned up" after what I had done
When my phone powered back on after the restart, there was *nothing* at all related to a system update in the notification bar. I turned on cellular data (but left WiFi off), and went to Settings >> About >> Software Updates. The phone checked for a few seconds, during which I could see (behind the "checking" popup) that the box for downloading only over WiFi was clear. This made sense, since this setting must be an option for the app I had just wiped. After maybe 15 seconds, the phone displayed a screen offering me the 3.16.617.2 system update. I used the back button to close that window, which left me on the screen where I could re-check the option to download system updates only over WiFi. Naturally, I re-checked this option.
That's it. My phone is now once again displaying a notification bar icon offering me the Oreo update, but it no longer thinks I told it to proceed with this update. I have been on WiFi a couple of times since doing this, and the phone has not tried to start the download.
I'm guessing that I could get this notification bar icon to go away by hiding notifications for the Updater app, but have not yet done so.
Thanks again, Droidriven, and I hope what I figured out is helpful to someone else.
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Yeah, I actually, meant to say nougat, lol.
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Preventing/Stalling System Updates

So last night, I must have received the TMob version of OOS 9.5.6, and it caused my entire phone reboot overnight. Unfortunately, this also prevented my alarm clock from going off in the morning! I definitely cannot have that happen again. I'd like to install the updates on my own schedule.
However, when I got into system update options, there's no setting to disable this? In developer options, there's a setting to disable automatic installation upon reboot, but that doesn't sound like the same thing. I've never encountered something like this, as every phone I've owned before this always allowed you to control how updates were received. Any clues?
Only thing I can think of is the first toggle in the screenshot I've attached.
rickysidhu_ said:
Only thing I can think of is the first toggle in the screenshot I've attached.
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Yep, that's the one I toggled. It sounds like it only prevents the installation upon reboot, and not something to actually stop it from rebooting. I'm unsure.
I believe that it will not download and update the phone until you go in to software updates and tap the download and update button.
smo69 said:
So last night, I must have received the TMob version of OOS 9.5.6, and it caused my entire phone reboot overnight. Unfortunately, this also prevented my alarm clock from going off in the morning! I definitely cannot have that happen again. I'd like to install the updates on my own schedule.
However, when I got into system update options, there's no setting to disable this? In developer options, there's a setting to disable automatic installation upon reboot, but that doesn't sound like the same thing. I've never encountered something like this, as every phone I've owned before this always allowed you to control how updates were received. Any clues?
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It was like that on 6t as well. TMobile force installs even if you turn off automatic updates.
Alot of people were reporting using the phone then out of nowhere random reboot then "congratulations your software has been updated to whatever"
twinnfamous said:
It was like that on 6t as well. TMobile force installs even if you turn off automatic updates.
Alot of people were reporting using the phone then out of nowhere random reboot then "congratulations your software has been updated to whatever"
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This is a major dealbreaker for me. I merely wanted the TMob version so that I could use the HD calling without issue, but I can't just have automatic updates going off when they feel like it.
I will have to convert to global version. Good thing I'm like a 20 year customer and the phone is completely paid for.

Location of System Update Download?

I'm coming from OnePlus devices where this was never an issue for me in 6 years.
Is anyone else still on A10 and rooted, getting hard pushes from Google to update to A11? I've disabled both Dynamic System Updates and Factory OTA Mode apps to try to block updates from occurring and also stop getting pestered about it. After having to factory reset my device once, and re-load all my backed up apps and data, I continue to get push notifications to install A11. The one I just received was a normal-looking notification in the notification shade with a button to push to start the update process. This is something I could have easily accepted by accident. This already happened to me once, apparently.
--------Does anyone know in what directory Google stores a downloaded OTA update?
I have a feeling it is on my device now and I want it off. I have root and can get to hidden system folders. I assume it's in one, I just don't know what to look for.
--------How do I block from every automatically updating, permanently?
I have the system update on reboot unchecked in developer options, but is there something else I can do just kill this process?
Edit - I found the notification to turn off in Google Play Services so that should stop, but I'm still nervous about the OTA lying in wait to install on my phone.
digger16309 said:
I'm coming from OnePlus devices where this was never an issue for me in 6 years.
Is anyone else still on A10 and rooted, getting hard pushes from Google to update to A11? I've disabled both Dynamic System Updates and Factory OTA Mode apps to try to block updates from occurring and also stop getting pestered about it. After having to factory reset my device once, and re-load all my backed up apps and data, I continue to get push notifications to install A11. The one I just received was a normal-looking notification in the notification shade with a button to push to start the update process. This is something I could have easily accepted by accident. This already happened to me once, apparently.
--------Does anyone know in what directory Google stores a downloaded OTA update?
I have a feeling it is on my device now and I want it off. I have root and can get to hidden system folders. I assume it's in one, I just don't know what to look for.
--------How do I block from every automatically updating, permanently?
I have the system update on reboot unchecked in developer options, but is there something else I can do just kill this process?
Edit - I found the notification to turn off in Google Play Services so that should stop, but I'm still nervous about the OTA lying in wait to install on my phone.
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Look here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83691963&postcount=17

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