Related
As the title says, does enabling forced 2D GPU in settings> development option decrease battery life?
alireza_simkesh said:
As the title says, does enabling forced 2D GPU in settings> development option decrease battery life?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I doubt it will make any difference; heck, it may even improve your battery life. The GPU is designed to take over for the CPU to render graphics, so I think it would take some of the strain off of your phone's CPU and save you energy. That's at least my line of thought on the subject. It may make some older apps run a little wonky, but for the most part you'll see little to no effect on battery life and improved performance all around.
I've used it for 2 weeks without, then 2 weeks with it checked, and I can say that it does make the overall phone snappier.
I haven't noticed much effect to the battery.
I see....cuz i rem i read somewhere on XDA that force 2d GPU rendering decreases battery life so i wanted to make sure.
This thread is intended to have power users post their best configurations so as to guide the rookies in optimizing their MXPs once they get unlocked and rooted. It's also intended to compare the best setups for battery, performance, gaming, multitasking, etc.
My main interest is in battery life, although lately I've been on the XDA Labs app like crazy and it's hurting my drain.
Constructive criticism welcome on how to improve the below records!
ROM: Stock MM Canadian
Kernel: Ultra Kernel R3
Governor: Smartmax
Frequencies: 200 big, 800 little
Xposed Framework modules: Force Fast Scroll, Lucky Patcher, GravityBox (duh!), Use USB For Marshmallow, Xposed GEL Settings
Best SOT: 8 hours
Best Drain (100% to 0%): 120 hours
Other miscellaneous tweaks: Shake Flashlight as a system app instead of double-chop (works great, just don't let go)
Launcher: Still figuring that out...but Nova and DarkLauncher are worthy contenders right at the moment
Voice Assist/Google Now on long-press Home: Disabled thanks to @pijes. Settings > Apps > Gear icon > Default Apps > Voice and Assist > None
Post below, power users! What's your best setup so far?
Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
ashwath230 said:
Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool man thanks. I'll try the Greenify and DS you recommend. I've seen Greenify a lot around XDA. I'm excited to try it.
Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
xtremeed2705 said:
Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
I'll post my setup. Been using it this way for like 2 weeks so I feel it's stable.
I'm currently running this:
Unlocked BL obviously
Stock Canada firmware (MPD24.65-18)
Rooted
Xposed Framework installed
Squid Kernel r14b
I have gravity box installed and that's really it as far as tweaks and stuff.
Averaging 5 or 6 hours SOT down to about 25% or 30%. Really depends on what I do and what network I use. Performance is great too.
I'm gonna mess around with some of this stuff tonight and see what I can do with it.
Sent from my XT1563 using Tapatalk
I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
Sent from my XT1563 using Tapatalk
Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
Sent from my XT1563 using Tapatalk
JohnHorus said:
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey hey. Thanks for posting!
I'm sure sweep to wake is possible on the phone in some way, likely through a combination of rooting and Xposed modules. I know that GravityBox has a double tap on status bar to sleep feature.
One of the nicest features of the X Play is the Moto Display. It's nice to have the phone screen come.on showing notifications without fully waking the phone. Check out the Moto Display app on the Play Store. It's a totally sexy feature.
I'd say this phone is absolutely worth it for the battery alone. I personally feel the camera to be laggy especially with focus, so consider that if you're a shutterbug. I am very hopeful that software updates will being out the power of the camera but it doesn't have optical image stabilization so blir happens more frequently, at least for me. That could be my shake fingers though.
Feel free to ask any further questions!
brian10161 said:
I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
Sent from my XT1563 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good stuff. Interactive does appear to handle web pages better. I did a Wikipedia search for The Simpsons and got a huge page. I flicked down to scroll it all at once and then Chrome froze. Hahahaba. Same with Lionfish though. Maybe I'm getting greedy thinking this phone is as powerful as my PC.
Lionfish was giving me great SOT results. Like I mentored in the OP: 8 HOURS! Was so happy to see that. Blew the socks off my Nrxus 4. I average between 6.5 and 8 usually, but WhatsApp and XDA Labs are hurting those scores now.
I haven't had to Greenify any apps yet - I only hsvr geeky ones installed anyway so they never keep the phone awake.
Gopinath15 said:
Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
Sent from my XT1563 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think @squid2 deserves a lot of credit for extending the X Play even further. His kernel and work on TWRP make the X Play even more attractive than it is out of the box.
I prefer Ultra kernel personally because I believe the dev for that (@technoander) takes the latest releases of squid's and adds features to them. I may be mistaken but that's my impression. I'll try to clarify and report back. I should do a direct comparison of Ultra and squid's latest to be as objective as is possible with a subjective test. Hahaha.
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
JohnHorus said:
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool - definitely report back - it would be nice to know if this is embedded in the hardware somewhere. I hope it is, unlike optical.image stabilization. Damn!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
xtremeed2705 said:
Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Row is essentially the best scheduler. Benchmarking is weird, because by design it's an optimized test case and not a use case. Use cases will always be variable, but generally with a smartphone writes aren't too latency-sensitive. That's why Read Over Write generally works the best once your phone is settled, because reading is most of what it does. Doesn't write too often.
There are lots of custom governors, not so many custom schedulers, and lots of suggestions, but generally stock *IS* best, and if you don't understand it, you should not change it. Governors are fun to play with but even they can cause issues if poorly coded. Changing governors will give you a huge impact on battery, but also a relative impact on performance. It all depends on the use context. You'll rarely get much battery life without a performance hit unless you custom-tune settings for your own use context.
As for read-ahead, that value is iconic of exactly what I'm talking about. It is the "chunks" of data that your OS reads in one go. So if it needs 2k, or 2m, it reads a different number of chunks, but each chunk will be the size set by I/O read-ahead. Google likes 512 best. I've been told by the dev for the EX Kernel that internal Motorola devs like 128 best. Benchmarks like the biggest value possible, because they present the OS a massive pile of data and ask it to read it all as fast as possible. In that context, a large chunk size saves time. In most contexts, you read more than you need half the time. So a low value like 128 saves battery and memory.
---------- Post added at 09:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:08 AM ----------
kiran91 said:
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Android pay does this too, it's a "security" feature built-in by the devs to stop hacking. Not really necessary, but then neither are smartphones, so you take what you can get I guess. No ROM developer can work around this for you. The app is detecting any modification whatsoever. Even root may cause it.
xtremeed2705 said:
Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
Hey @JohnHorus - thanks for your informative post. I'm currently trying Row 128 and will report back but I doubt I'll see any real-world difference in use. Memory and battery are two soft spots for me so I'm hopeful 128 will maintain solid performance.
Looking forward to reading about others' setups!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah in my experience it drains the battery more then doing other things for some reason. As you can see in my 9 hrs picture I only used the phone for like 2 minutes lol.
Hello , I was playing some games and not really heavy one :
-> Bubble Witch 3
-> Bravium
Some others games worked well , but these two have terrible lags , anyone can help? My previous phone (Xperia Z2) was doing fine ...
ZenChaos said:
Hello , I was playing some games and not really heavy one :
-> Bubble Witch 3
-> Bravium
Some others games worked well , but these two have terrible lags , anyone can help? My previous phone (Xperia Z2) was doing fine ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you forced your phone's resolution to 4k?
aquaboy11 said:
Have you forced your phone's resolution to 4k?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello , sorry for late answering , No I don't think that I've enabled that kind of feature (I did'nt saw this option anyway)
ZenChaos said:
Hello , sorry for late answering , No I don't think that I've enabled that kind of feature (I did'nt saw this option anyway)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, don't worry then. It's a trick you can do through ADB. But then I don't see any reason why your phone would be lagging, my XZ Premium runs Bubble Witch Saga 3 just fine without any lags. Does your phone become hot whenever you try to play them? It might be worth clearing the cache of the Lagg apps.
aquaboy11 said:
Oh, don't worry then. It's a trick you can do through ADB. But then I don't see any reason why your phone would be lagging, my XZ Premium runs Bubble Witch Saga 3 just fine without any lags. Does your phone become hot whenever you try to play them? It might be worth clearing the cache of the Lagg apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not hot , so should I put in 4k? (it will drain more energy ?)
What I've attempt so far :
-Contact game support to ask
-clear cache
-uninstall & install still lagging
ZenChaos said:
It's not hot , so should I put in 4k? (it will drain more energy ?)
What I've attempt so far :
-Contact game support to ask
-clear cache
-uninstall & install still lagging
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could try to clear the phone's cache under the storage tab in settings. Forcing it to 4k would probably just cause more issues and lag as it would have to render more pixels. It also drains more energy. If you watch a 4k video it automatically switches to 4k mode, so I'd leave it. You could go into developer settings and check gpu and cpu usage to see how much they are being used, which might give you an idea where the problem lies.
Do you happen to have stamina modus on? That will make anything laggy to save your battery for days.
Settings - Battery - Stamina mode
X10iMark said:
Do you happen to have stamina modus on? That will make anything laggy to save your battery for days.
Settings - Battery - Stamina mode
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do believe I turned most of stamina option , there is only one left (the one that tell you when your battery going to be over)
might be best to not used stamina mode during gaming session since stanina mode decreased phone performance used only when critical hours like 20% or less to prolong phones usage. here check out erica griffin s8 gpu performance though its s8 review but she did compare xz premium gou performance with riptide game and it really is a great performance. heres the youtube title sorry really dont know to used youtube link lol "S8 & S8+ Review Part 2 || Performance After 2 Months [All You Need to Know]" erica griffin
styxter said:
might be best to not used stamina mode during gaming session since stanina mode decreased phone performance used only when critical hours like 20% or less to prolong phones usage. here check out erica griffin s8 gpu performance though its s8 review but she did compare xz premium gou performance with riptide game and it really is a great performance. heres the youtube title sorry really dont know to used youtube link lol "S8 & S8+ Review Part 2 || Performance After 2 Months [All You Need to Know]" erica griffin
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I checked , everything I found about Stamina is turned off , maybe I have to wait an update since the only game that actually do lag is those saga game (I have to wait 1 to 5 sec to be able to move the arrow to aim)
Here's a link to it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-gpu-turbo-boost-t3808541
It's apparently supposed to help with battery and performance. Performance is already great for me, so I'm just wondering if anyone can test it and see if the battery is improved in games such as PubG.
Thanks.
Why not try it out and report back for the rest of us?
I just installed it. Will report back after a few hours for a more accurate review. As for now, I'm not gonna lie, rendering is being done faster, alot faster. And no its not the reboot.
According to the last few pages, the module is basically bu**sh*it. I don't have the knowledge to make my own opinion but you should be skeptical about it I think. What you can just try instead is to force gpu rendering in developer settings. It will have the same effect more or less.
Hello everyone
A few hours ago, Firmware Finder received .150 firmware update for C185 models. I personally downloaded it even though there was no change log and updated using Hurupdater. I had noticed no changes at a first glance but then i moved to settings to confirm that the phone had updated. It said GPU Turbo below my version number. I decided to check out a graphically intensive game I play called 'Honkai Impact 3rd' on max graphics and 60fps which would heat down the phone within a few missions and there would also be quite a few stutters when alot of special effects would be going on at the same time before. I can confirm that since the update that the stutters have been reduced but most importantly, the phone hasn't been heating up as much in game after an hour of playtime. Battery life has been noticeably better too as there is less drain for sure. This is just my experience, can't wait for everyone else to get it as well, so I can know what is happening (whether GPU Turbo is actually on or not). For now though, I'll be testing more games to see how the phone is doing but I'm liking this so far.
very good news
In China, there have been a lot reports of the phone getting even hotter, the battery draining faster and the camera being more sensitive to flaring (esp. in night mode). I'm curious if people here will confirm or if these bugs have been fixed in the meantime. Personally, I think I won't update to .150 when it's out, better to wait a few weeks =)
Better battery drain during gaming or even in general use?
all the pugs said:
In China, there have been a lot reports of the phone getting even hotter, the battery draining faster and the camera being more sensitive to flaring (esp. in night mode). I'm curious if people here will confirm or if these bugs have been fixed in the meantime. Personally, I think I won't update to .150 when it's out, better to wait a few weeks =)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From my experience (which is less than a full day) the phone doesn't get as hot as it normally did before the update unless I play extensively for about an hour straight. Any less and I've been seeing good heat management so far. Of course I'm still in the early stages of testing and cannot comment further until 3-4 days of testing.
lambstone said:
Better battery drain during gaming or even in general use?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So battery life definitely seems better when i was playing my regular games., I'll need some time before I can comment on regular use. I'll try updating the thread after a few days of testing.
Interesting news! Any antutu or other benchmark result?
Still waiting 130 update for C432 model of p20 pro.
Funny how some areas gets updates so much faster although same phone model.
What about normal apps specially Google photos. Is it any smoother with no lag or stutters ??
Hi, please check the slo-mo 960fps recording.... Any improvements in the alleged artifacts during 32x slow videos? Huawei is using framerate interpolation for it which throws in visible artifacts during close up slow motion...
halleyrokz said:
Hi, please check the slo-mo 960fps recording.... Any improvements in the alleged artifacts during 32x slow videos? Huawei is using framerate interpolation for it which throws in visible artifacts during close up slow motion...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would like too, to know answer on this question
Loragejt said:
Interesting news! Any antutu or other benchmark result?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i want to know too, to see at what kind of degree the update will improve the score, Antutu and Geekbench please
Loragejt said:
Interesting news! Any antutu or other benchmark result?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For everyone interested to know benchmark results, to my disappointment, results on Antutu, Geekbench and 3d mark remain very similar to those prior to the update. Which is very strange indeed as I'm definitely noticing an improvement in battery life, device heat management and fps slightly whilst gaming. It is possible that im running a test build and have not been running a full taste of Gpu Turbo, and it's also possible that Huawei's claim of 'Gpu Turbo' just means much better device thermal manamagement for more consistent FPS and battery life. Lastly, it is also possible thst Gpu turbo isn't even on since this is a test build and it's just that they've tweaked device performance and improved battery life compared to the previous version I was on (. 130). Thus I cannot judge fully and I'm waiting on an update to prove me wrong. I check firmware finder everyday and love testing new things. Although if what I'm experiencing is actually gpu turbo then I do not mind as at the very least, I see some improvement in battery life.
vodovodo said:
What about normal apps specially Google photos. Is it any smoother with no lag or stutters ??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Scrolling has been super smooth. Google photos has been super snappy. The only app I see causing any scroll lag at this time is Twitter and that I'd blame the app itself rather than Huawei. I think it's definitely more fluid than the previous version of the software I was on but it is not heavily noticeable as both were very smooth for the most part.
halleyrokz said:
Hi, please check the slo-mo 960fps recording.... Any improvements in the alleged artifacts during 32x slow videos? Huawei is using framerate interpolation for it which throws in visible artifacts during close up slow motion...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I took this opportunity to compare the slow mo performance to my Mom's S9+. I believe the artifacts are still present as I see lines and weird effects popping up randomly which I do not see on the S9+.
Gpu turbo is only for games so you won't notice any improvement other that in gaming, that's why there is an special application tor that "game suite" that you can enable the acceleration.
I'm running b150 for a few days and so far the phone is better from before in term of small tweaks here and there and i noticed the front camera is better now,not perfect but very usable.
The battery has improved a little but but it was very good before too.
I had read that the antutu would be similar to snapdragon 845. I guess it was just a lie.
gm007 said:
Gpu turbo is only for games so you won't notice any improvement other that in gaming, that's why there is an special application tor that "game suite" that you can enable the acceleration.
I'm running b150 for a few days and so far the phone is better from before in term of small tweaks here and there and i noticed the front camera is better now,not perfect but very usable.
The battery has improved a little but but it was very good before too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh thanks for the info, I actually didn't notice this and yes I see games running much nicer with the setting turned on. However, they also heat up the phone quicker and drain alot of battery life. Should you choose to turn the option off however, you notice the same games don't drain as much battery life anymore and the phone doesn't heat up as much and the battery life is noticeably better than before the update.
psycho.b94 said:
Oh thanks for the info, I actually didn't notice this and yes I see games running much nicer with the setting turned on. However, they also heat up the phone quicker and drain alot of battery life. Should you choose to turn the option off however, you notice the same games don't drain as much battery life anymore and the phone doesn't heat up as much and the battery life is noticeably better than before the update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't play intensive games just clash royal,i have the acceleration turned off, didn't test much of it but the battery seems better not sure about the heat tho.
This is my battery life this day,all day 4g and most of the time outside.
gm007 said:
I don't play intensive games just clash royal,i have the acceleration turned off, didn't test much of it but the battery seems better not sure about the heat tho.
This is my battery life this day,all day 4g and most of the time outside.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's pretty good considering you're gaming. I'm definitely getting atleast 7-8 hours of sot when I'm not going all out and about 5-6 on maxed out heavy gaming for most of the day. Even with the Gaming Optimization turned on the phone doesn't heat up alot as long as you're in a well ventilated environment. Im not much of a heavy gamer myself but definitely see better fps on Csr Racing 2 (used to lag a bit in the garage) and Honkai Impact 3rd with optimization in gaming suite on. Honkai is definitely giving me 60 fps in 90% of the scenarios so the lag is barely noticeable unlike before. As for benchmarks, unfortunately you cannot add benchmark related apps to the game optimize feature so the GPU turbo can't be turned on for them. Strangely enough, every other app (even regular apps) can be optimized.