International Exynos S7/Edge on T-Mobile USA - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

I hope I'm posting this in the right place, anyway I plan on switching from an iPhone 6s Plus to either an S7 or S7 edge. And from what I understand the international version of the S7 with Exynos processor is A LOT better in terms of battery life and performance and I would prefer to get this version over the Snapdragon. I know it's possible to do but I have a few questions.
1) Is the coverage the same? Will I get any dropped signals/calls?
2) Will I still get LTE?
3) What exact model of the international version will I need for the best compatibility? (there's an sm-G930F model but I know there are others)
4) Is there any way to get VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling to work?(by flashing or anything else? I've seen some people on XDA have gotten some of these features to work. I don't care about Samsung pay so if there's no way to get that working it's ok)
5) Will I have any other issues pulling this off or should it be relatively easy?

Yes it will work as bands are supported
Check yourself at
http://willmyphonework.net
WiFi calling and volte can work if you flash appropriate CSC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3392949
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Lieutenantdaan said:
Yes it will work as bands are supported
Check yourself at
http://willmyphonework.net
WiFi calling and volte can work if you flash appropriate CSC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3392949
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Ok thank you! I'm definitely switching from the iPhone.

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Wifi versions get updates faster?

Going to be buy the Notepro in a few days and debating on getting the wifi or unlocked int. Lte version. Do wifi versions get updates faster? I know that 4g versions that are locked almost never get updates. Can the same be said for unlocked 4g versions?
I had unlocked 4g version of the note 2014 10.1and the thing never got an update.
Any LTE version is going to require work by the respective carriers once receiving the update from Samsung so yes, the WiFi version should get updates far quicker and more regurally. While Samsung still makes their changes to stock Google code, it is one step closer to stock than getting through a carrier.
wingdo said:
Any LTE version is going to require work by the respective carriers once receiving the update from Samsung so yes, the WiFi version should get updates far quicker and more regurally. While Samsung still makes their changes to stock Google code, it is one step closer to stock than getting through a carrier.
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But what if I didnt get it from a carrier? I can get the LTE, unbranded version.
In that case wouldnt it be like the wifi, not affected by what carriers do?
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That i can't answer. Here in the states they are all carrier bramded.
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[Q] International (D6603) vs T-Mobile (D6616) pros/cons

For those of us who will be using T-Mobile as our carrier and are considering buying an international variant of the Z3 instead of the T-Mobile variant, what are all of the pros/cons? There's only a few that I can think of, and some important ones that we need someone to confirm if possible.
Pros:
Unlocked bootloader
Color options other than black
Cons:
No international variant with LTE Band 12 support
No VoLTE support?
No WiFi Calling support (Android 4.4.4 or Android 5.0)?
Can't use Jump! (ie. no insurance)
Although perhaps negligible, less battery life (from having more frequency support)?
16GB Internal Storage
Pretty much summed it up. The battery life difference should be negligible. T-Mobile version does have 32GB internal storage as well.
se1000 said:
Pretty much summed it up. The battery life difference should be negligible. T-Mobile version does have 32GB internal storage as well.
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There is only one thing I cannot find any clarification on, and that's whether or not the T-Mobile version as Band 12 support. T-Mobile's site says no - Sony's site says yes. Do we know which to believe?
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CollinFX45 said:
There is only one thing I cannot find any clarification on, and that's whether or not the T-Mobile version as Band 12 support. T-Mobile's site says no - Sony's site says yes. Do we know which to believe?
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I would say that the T-Mobile version definitely has Band 12, but that it isn't active yet and will be turned on when the network is ready.
CollinFX45 said:
There is only one thing I cannot find any clarification on, and that's whether or not the T-Mobile version as Band 12 support. T-Mobile's site says no - Sony's site says yes. Do we know which to believe?
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There's no debate on this. The T-Mobile version (D6616) has LTE Band 12. T-Mobile may simply not be listing it because they don't want to advertise a network that isn't up yet.
se1000 said:
Pretty much summed it up. The battery life difference should be negligible. T-Mobile version does have 32GB internal storage as well.
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Forgot about the storage difference. I've added that now.
s1dest3pnate said:
There's no debate on this. The T-Mobile version (D6616) has LTE Band 12. T-Mobile may simply not be listing it because they don't want to advertise a network that isn't up yet.
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Thanks, glad to hear it.
After the Moto X "Pure Edition" I purchased as supposedly having Band 12 and finding out it didn't, I'm overly cautious I guess! Then again, I live in the Bay Area and I think T-mo has a lot of work to do to clear up the Band 12 licenses here unfortunately.
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One think to mention of the international version is that it isn't carrier locked and that it is free from T-Mobile's bloatware. I also like a device without carrier's logo on it. Copper and White Z3s looks awesome. Happened the same with my first Xperia Z1, it was international version purple color when all other T-Mo customers has black Z1s.
se1000 said:
I would say that the T-Mobile version definitely has Band 12, but that it isn't active yet and will be turned on when the network is ready.
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There is something else that is unclear to me: • VoLTE support! I did see the T-Mobile's version having an option in settings>call settings: Enable VoLTE if available (check mark). So international version won't have this?
I don't know if the D6603 has the VoLTE menu ootion, however on a hardware level I believe it does.
abhinav.tella said:
I don't know if the D6603 has the VoLTE menu ootion, however on a hardware level I believe it does.
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Thanks. I was ready to buy an unlocked version, but I saw this thread, so I searched online yesterday for a good 30+ minutes, even Z3's white pages, specs, but nothing that would mention VoLTE. The interesting thing that I found is that Xperia Z3 Compact, does mention VoLTE support. I also emailed few people on youtube that had made videos about Z3, waiting on their reply.
Anyone able to confirm if T-Mobile VoLTE works on the D6603 model? Screenshot showing the HD icon?
I can confirm it does have volte. Now if we could just get root Haha!! __
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s1dest3pnate said:
Anyone able to confirm if T-Mobile VoLTE works on the D6603 model? Screenshot showing the HD icon?
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I had a D6603 using it on tmobile for a good week. No Volte and no Wifi calling. Thats confirmed.
This white paper PDF from the Sony Developer World website contains charts showing the differences between all the Z3 models. It also shows LTE band 12 support in model D6616.
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
Load TMobile software on a D6603 Z3??
Hey everyone. I own a international Sony Xperia Z3 model D6603 and was wondering if it was possible to load US TMobile D6616 software on it in order to enable WiFi calling/texting??
Thanks for everyone's help!
I would imagine so. Just use FlashTool and XperiFirm, but be ready to roll back with the proper files in case something goes wrong. So I'm not 100% sure, but I'd imagine you can if the hardware is similar enough. Do at your own risk, though - perhaps someone who knows more than me about this could chime in.
i just put my t mobile sim in a D6603 and can make calls, but i can't get 4g, 3g or even 2g...
what's going on? bad unit?
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gcbxda said:
i just put my t mobile sim in a D6603 and can make calls, but i can't get 4g, 3g or even 2g...
what's going on? bad unit?
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You likely need to add your APN. Should be plenty of info on how to do that online.
gcbxda said:
i just put my t mobile sim in a D6603 and can make calls, but i can't get 4g, 3g or even 2g...
what's going on? bad unit?
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Did it work eventually???

Does WiFi calling work on T-Mobile?

Anyone know if WiFi calling forks on t-mobile? I read that the nexus 6 works because Google tmo and qualcom ALL support it, so what about Sammy and their new baseband chips?
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Anyone know if WiFi calling forks on t-mobile? I read that the nexus 6 works because Google tmo and qualcom ALL support it, so what about Sammy and their new baseband chips?
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Yes WiFi calling works
Just in case you wanted a second opinion...yes, it works.
WHen I had my Note 3 and S3 (not at the same time...) wifi calling was great. But my last couple phones (Nexus 6, LG G3, HTC M8), it quality has been poor. My internet speeds have actually increased over that time too. I dont' use it anymore. I'll give it another shot on my Note 5, but I'm not holding my breath.
daftlush said:
Anyone know if WiFi calling forks on t-mobile? I read that the nexus 6 works because Google tmo and qualcom ALL support it, so what about Sammy and their new baseband chips?
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Of course it works - sorry, but this seems like an odd question - from what I know, ALL TMOBILE PHOnes have wifi calling - certainlly all of the TMO Phones i have owned have it - and they were all Samsung phones -

Tmobile customer - Safe to buy Unlocked phones? New upcoming Tmo bands?

Sorry, I'm not too much in the know, but I heard there is some sort of new update coming in the near future that will improve various aspects of the S7 like better in building reception etc.
So what do I need to be on the look out for? This deal from Target is pretty fair on top of my 5% Red Card bonus. Would this phone work with whatever update Tmo pushes out to receive the full benefits vs a tmobile puchased S7?
http://www.target.com/p/unlocked-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-g930f-32gb-gsm-black/-/A-51032209
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Nope, your link is for the international version, which won't get VoLTE, wifi calling, or updates. You want either the 930T or 930u. Anything else won't work properly.
Edit for clarification - The upcoming changes for the S7 are for more advanced LTE functionality. The extended range/building penetration are already in place, it's Band 12 LTE. The international version you linked will receive data on this band, but you CANNOT call/sms on it, as it's a data only band. The only calling/SMS that can be done on it would be on VoLTE, which you will not have.
So yeah, you'd be getting a crippled phone with none of the advantages you want.
In the last week, the rom maker below got a Note 7 port working on a 930f with T-mobile VOLTE + wifi calling + video calling. Assuming you root and want custom roms, there is an viable option in the international model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/rom-n7-rom-port-romcontrol-t3430358
That being said for the OP:
Why target, swappa is $200 less on either model.
The international model has no US warranty.
The international model is faster with a better battery life but is slighltly weaker playing games: having both for now, completely stock, the 930f is slightly faster feeling. On the other hand, it is like night and day to compare a custom/tweaked rom/kernel of a 930F to a engineering bootloader based 930t's stock rooted rom (the custom roms seem to remove video calls)
The US model (if root matters) has a root solution that can be negated in future builds.
The international model's root trips knox, unlike the US version, reducing the resale value.
entropism said:
Nope, your link is for the international version, which won't get VoLTE, wifi calling, or updates. You want either the 930T or 930u. Anything else won't work properly.
Edit for clarification - The upcoming changes for the S7 are for more advanced LTE functionality. The extended range/building penetration are already in place, it's Band 12 LTE. The international version you linked will receive data on this band, but you CANNOT call/sms on it, as it's a data only band. The only calling/SMS that can be done on it would be on VoLTE, which you will not have.
So yeah, you'd be getting a crippled phone with none of the advantages you want.
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Question TMobile (USA) network speed

I don't see 5G icon. But we got LTE+ on TMobile (usa) (VoLTE pre activated)
Download speed is fantastic. Upload is not
avetny said:
I don't see 5G icon. But we got LTE+ on TMobile (usa) (VoLTE pre activated)
Download speed is fantastic. Upload is not
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has anyone tried to unlock more bands?
following something like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-use-your-phone-globally-no-bs.2871269/
Washo4evr said:
has anyone tried to unlock more bands?
following something like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-use-your-phone-globally-no-bs.2871269/
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It is at the standard of the H.W not the S.W.
The same questions were asked of the 10 ultra. Some said hard, some software but no one posted any success in opening more bands.
Washo4evr said:
has anyone tried to unlock more bands?
following something like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-use-your-phone-globally-no-bs.2871269/
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Reasonable question man, those replies suck. It has the same modem as the iPhone 13, it's a Snapdragon X65 5G so technically you should be able to. If not in NV, you could in software programming tool of Qualcomm, might have to be the newest software though. If you could identify the modem chip number in a teardown video possibly we could find the product model number and see if it's a hardware limited or base chip limited by firmware.
That makes sense. Back in the day, I had a Zuk Z2 Pro and it worked but haven't had a phone with a snapdragon since.
Thanks Jdorman12 for replying with actual words, not a single emoji
If I end up getting a 12S, I will give it a try

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