Temporally root? - Sony Xperia XZ Questions & Answers

Is someone already looking for an at least temporally root (similar to iovyroot on lp) to make it possible backing up the drm keys?

i think that it doesn't take long time until the dirtycow exploit is used to root our device

MysticEnforcer said:
i think that it doesn't take long time until the dirtycow exploit is used to root our device
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Yes, looks like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879

But it seems to be not that easy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69306581&postcount=237

cant wait for it to happen really wanna root without unlocking BL (

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[Question][Request] Root for F8332 stock without unlocking BL?

Just as mentioned above. I dont mind waiting but just wanna ask is there anybody able to get it already? I've done some google, some pages offer a very 'detailed' instructions like just install TWRP using fastboot method then flash the SuperSU binary then bingo!! Some others state unlocking BL is required. Since to me xda is the only reliable source so I guess I will be looking for answers here.
Cheers
since the Z3+ and newer devices, root with lock bootloader is impossible at least for now.
btw, unlock bootloader is so easy for root, why not? Warranty?
tommy1616 said:
since the Z3+ and newer devices, root with lock bootloader is impossible at least for now.
btw, unlock bootloader is so easy for root, why not? Warranty?
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Well... DRM keys thing is what i concern. AFAIK im gonna have to give up some features if i lose it so...
Btw it'd be appreciated if u could share some posts about re-locking bootloader and backing up/restoring DRM keys, especially for this new Xperia XZ.
boydzethuong said:
Well... DRM keys thing is what i concern. AFAIK im gonna have to give up some features if i lose it so...
Btw it'd be appreciated if u could share some posts about re-locking bootloader and backing up/restoring DRM keys, especially for this new Xperia XZ.
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This kernel have DRM Patch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/kernel-andropluskernel-v01-t3475240
But.... If unlocked bootloader, DRM keys well loss
and no backup way in marshmallow with no root at the least
tommy1616 said:
This kernel have DRM Patch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/kernel-andropluskernel-v01-t3475240
But.... If unlocked bootloader, DRM keys well loss
and no backup way in marshmallow with no root at the least
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That's what im worrying haha. Guess i'll wait, patiently, for a talent shows up
Someone just pls pls find a way to have it rooted without unlocking BL, or just a way to back up TA BEFORE unlocking for the sake of DRM keys sh!t then nothing would stop me from enjoying root
boydzethuong said:
That's what im worrying haha. Guess i'll wait, patiently, for a talent shows up
Someone just pls pls find a way to have it rooted without unlocking BL, or just a way to back up TA BEFORE unlocking for the sake of DRM keys sh!t then nothing would stop me from enjoying root
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I've been waiting for over 3mths for some progress on backing up the ta keys on all the x range(I have the xa) I don't see it ever happening to be honest and I've made the mistake of loosing ta keys before I won't be doing it again.
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[noob question] unlocking the bootloader

Hi all.
I've got my XZ since one week now, and I'm missing the possibilities of rooting my device.
My Z2 was LB, so I never could ever try to unlock my bootloader. therefore, I don't know anything about it.
I've read a lot of thread here and there, and some points are not that clear to me.
Will the procedure of unlocking the bootloader erase everything in the phone (like photos, contacts, etc...)?
Unlocking the bootloader will kill the DRM keys forever, if I understood well. but flashing Androplus Kernel will recover them, right?
Is it possible to relock the booltloader after? if yes, will the DRM keys be restored?
Last thing, to be sure of what I should do.
1-unlock the bootloader with IMEI via sony site.
2-install TWRP via adb command
3-flash Androplus kernel.
Am I right, or do I miss something?
Thanks for your help, and sorry for the noobish questions.
sensei_sai said:
Hi all.
I've got my XZ since one week now, and I'm missing the possibilities of rooting my device.
My Z2 was LB, so I never could ever try to unlock my bootloader. therefore, I don't know anything about it.
I've read a lot of thread here and there, and some points are not that clear to me.
Will the procedure of unlocking the bootloader erase everything in the phone (like photos, contacts, etc...)?
Unlocking the bootloader will kill the DRM keys forever, if I understood well. but flashing Androplus Kernel will recover them, right?
Is it possible to relock the booltloader after? if yes, will the DRM keys be restored?
Last thing, to be sure of what I should do.
1-unlock the bootloader with IMEI via sony site.
2-install TWRP via adb command
3-flash Androplus kernel.
Am I right, or do I miss something?
Thanks for your help, and sorry for the noobish questions.
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Hey sensei_sai,
Im unsure if unlocking will erase your data but its always best to backup everything in the internal memory just in case something goes wrong.
Androplus will NOT recover your DRM keys but kernels with DRM fixes try to replicate the features that are permanently lost as a result of unlocking your boot-loader.
In the future it may be possible for you to re-lock the boot-loader but even then this wont restore DRM keys, the only way to restore DRM keys would be to back up your TA partition (This contains your DRM keys) before you unlock your boot-loader but to do this you need root access with your boot-loader still locked.
How to backup TA
Unfortunately at this time nobody has figured out a way to get root with a locked boot-loader although a newly found exploit (Dirty cow) may help us do this very soon so if you care about re-locking and keeping your DRM keys I advise waiting until a locked boot-loader root solution is around!
Sonic Dash said:
Hey sensei_sai,
Im unsure if unlocking will erase your data but its always best to backup everything in the internal memory just in case something goes wrong.
Androplus will NOT recover your DRM keys but kernels with DRM fixes try to replicate the features that are permanently lost as a result of unlocking your boot-loader.
In the future it may be possible for you to re-lock the boot-loader but even then this wont restore DRM keys, the only way to restore DRM keys would be to back up your TA partition (This contains your DRM keys) before you unlock your boot-loader but to do this you need root access with your boot-loader still locked.
How to backup TA
Unfortunately at this time nobody has figured out a way to get root with a locked boot-loader although a newly found exploit (Dirty cow) may help us do this very soon so if you care about re-locking and keeping your DRM keys I advise waiting until a locked boot-loader root solution is around!
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Thanks for your reply.
Too bad for the TA partition.
So we have two possibilities. Take the risk of loose some features forever, but benefit of the root or wait till someone make some magic to use an exploit to obtain root without unlocking the bootloader.
Risk and go... Or wait and safe... Dilemma...
Sent from my Xperia XZ
I think that the era of DRM lock is over, we've been using DRM fixes for all the latest xperia phones, the dirty cow is a bad exploit and it's more dangerous than useful.
I was unsure about unlocking the bootloader but now that I did it, I rooted and I regret nothing, the only downside of unlocking is the warranty loss, but who cares as long as the phone doesn't magically explode.
Venom71 said:
I think that the era of DRM lock is over, we've been using DRM fixes for all the latest xperia phones, the dirty cow is a bad exploit and it's more dangerous than useful.
I was unsure about unlocking the bootloader but now that I did it, I rooted and I regret nothing, the only downside of unlocking is the warranty loss, but who cares as long as the phone doesn't magically explode.
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Good point for you... I think i will take the risk.
Sent from my Xperia XZ
I'm about to....
sensei_sai said:
Good point for you... I think i will take the risk.
Sent from my Xperia XZ
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caqo71 said:
I'm about to....
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OK, so did the bootloader unlock erase your data? Did you use the sony way or Flashtool?
I wrote a complete guide just here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648
Please use the search
nathan30 said:
I wrote a complete guide just here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648
Please use the search
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Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
tempurastyle said:
Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
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Yes, it's not possible
tempurastyle said:
Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
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Yes, but it worth it!! Save all your datas and go for it!

Root/TA guide for Sony XZ - wanted??

Hello all
I am playing with idea of rooting my device which is running android 7.0 but I cant find any detailed/confirmed information about :
- howto to root sony XZ device
- TA backup/restore (and why)
- pitfalls, if any ??
It would be a great idea to have a sticky post about the steps needed for this as it would save time for all users NEW to sony devices.
castra said:
Hello all
I am playing with idea of rooting my device which is running android 7.0 but I cant find any detailed/confirmed information about :
- howto to root sony XZ device
- TA backup/restore (and why)
- pitfalls, if any ??
It would be a great idea to have a sticky post about the steps needed for this as it would save time for all users NEW to sony devices.
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not very much about pitfalls and not much on TA-restore:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70504721&postcount=2
DHGE said:
not very much about pitfalls and not much on TA-restore:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70504721&postcount=2
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What confuses me is that in order to take a TA backup to preserve DRM keys I need to root the device and to be able to do that I need to unlock bootloader, but by doing that I lose DRM which is the whole point of TA backup ?
castra said:
What confuses me is that in order to take a TA backup to preserve DRM keys I need to root the device and to be able to do that I need to unlock bootloader, but by doing that I lose DRM which is the whole point of TA backup ?
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You need to have root privileges to do that.
Look up Catch 22 (annoying - I know), exploit and temporarily.
DHGE said:
You need to have root privileges to do that.
Look up Catch 22 (annoying - I know), exploit and temporarily.
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Just downloaded backupTA_v2 and checked backupTA.sh file only to find that if I am running Nougat I need to downgrade in order to use it.
castra said:
... only to find that if I am running Nougat I need to downgrade in order to use it.
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did you bother to read my post?
DHGE said:
You need to have root privileges to do that.
Look up Catch 22 (annoying - I know), exploit and temporarily.
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I'm sorry, didn't catch that!? Am I missing something ? Please explain.
If you are reffering to this, yes I saw it.
Requirements:
Phone running a dirtycow capable OS (E.g. recent N builds won't work).
If you have already upgraded, downgrading (temporarily) should be possible.
It should work on all recent xperia phones, but there might be exceptions.
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Root on locked bootloader

His guys just got the xzp and wow what a phone my only concern is root I have a locked bootloader and it's not unlockable but to be fair I've never unlocked a Xperia bootloader due to loosing drm keys etc
So my question is will we be able to get root on locked bootloaders like we did with past Xperia phones or are we stuck unless we unlock which in my case would mead no root ever :crying:
Thanks
Probably not would be my guess. You still need to unlock bootloader on previous models such as XZ/XZS.
FartyParty said:
Probably not would be my guess. You still need to unlock bootloader on previous models such as XZ/XZS.
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Darn I love this device too but to never be able to have root might be a deal breaker
In service menu it says unlock bootloader allowed no but in developer options it give me the option to unlock the bootloader does this mean it's possible for me to unlock the bootloader
brockyneo said:
In service menu it says unlock bootloader allowed no but in developer options it give me the option to unlock the bootloader does this mean it's possible for me to unlock the bootloader
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That setting is there regardless. If it says no its not possible.
FartyParty said:
That setting is there regardless. If it says no its not possible.
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Ah OK no root for me then ever think it might have to be the oneplus 5 then I love this phone too
Wait for an Android vulnerability or someone find a way to backup the TA partition
ninjy said:
Wait for an Android vulnerability or someone find a way to backup the TA partition
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But I cannot unlock the bootloader I was hoping for a root without unlocking the bootloader like the z3 which was my last Xperia device
One question if I stay with the xzp cam I at least flash the latest stock UK unbranded room with a locked bootloader so I can get rid of my carrier stuff thanks
brockyneo said:
But I cannot unlock the bootloader I was hoping for a root without unlocking the bootloader like the z3 which was my last Xperia device
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It's what i'm saying
brockyneo said:
One question if I stay with the xzp cam I at least flash the latest stock UK unbranded room with a locked bootloader so I can get rid of my carrier stuff thanks
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yes
ninjy said:
It's what i'm saying
yes
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So what your saying is they maybe a work around getting root ect on locked bootloaders?
Thanks again
Like always, if a security breach is found on Android that allow getting root access, it will be possible to backup the DRM partition, then after if you like, unlocking the bootloader and then restore your DRM partition.
At least, it finished like this for the Z5, but you had to downgrade to Lollipop to get root access.
AFAIK, there is no known way to get root on Nougat today.
ninjy said:
Like always, if a security breach is found on Android that allow getting root access, it will be possible to backup the DRM partition, then after if you like, unlocking the bootloader and then restore your DRM partition.
At least, it finished like this for the Z5, but you had to downgrade to Lollipop to get root access.
AFAIK, there is no known way to get root on Nougat today.
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So there is the Dirty Cow exploit that seems pretty pervasive and promising.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
EDIT: Nevermind I'm an idiot, I didn't realize the dates on dirty cow.
Question still stands though, do we know if there is anyone on the XZ Premium working on it?
topherhead said:
So there is the Dirty Cow exploit that seems pretty pervasive and promising.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
EDIT: Nevermind I'm an idiot, I didn't realize the dates on dirty cow.
Question still stands though, do we know if there is anyone on the XZ Premium working on it?
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I don't think so, there will be more involved ppl when XZ1 will be released, since it's the same specs
hoping for this with the XZs updated to Oreo...
manilenio said:
hoping for this with the XZs updated to Oreo...
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It's not possible anymore. You really need to unlock the bootloader in order to root. Something about patching the kernel.

Can anyone give feedback with regards the latest One Click Root app developments?

Hello everyone so despite trying in the past and the app saying unable to root. I decided to check my Z5 E6653 this morning and to my surprise i got the message that my device can be rooted. Has anyone got this on Nougat 7.1.1 ? Did it work in the end or not? Im sceptical and not sure if i should give it a try. My device is stock with an unlockable bootloader that is still locked currently.
No.
Use / Read the topic in Android Development by Tobias Waldvogel
Duvel999 said:
No.
Use / Read the topic in Android Development by Tobias Waldvogel
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Thanks,i will and take a look.
Even if you get temporary root with some exploit, as soon as you modify the system partition Or boot partition, your device will bootloop forever because the bootloader knows that the system has been tampered.
The only possible thing would be crack the bootloader, which is (almost) impossible.
Simply backup your TA partition with Iovyroot,then unlock the bootloader and install the proper kernel that emulates TA drm protection and lets you root the Rom.
If needed you can restore TA partition and send phone to repair service like it was never unlocked.

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