So I was playing a game Critical Ops and I invited my friend to play it (he plays on iPhone SE). Most of the time, phone gets 50-60fps with lag spikes every minute or so. But my friend doesn't experience anything like this; he gets 55-60 without any lag spikes. So I've began to wonder if my phone is bad. So we made AnTuTu Benchmark and GeekBench and results were similar (about 130K in AnTuTu and about 5500 multi-core score in GeekBench). After this, I went to supermarket because there was a shop with phones that you can try. So I tried playing with shop's S7 (G930X), and I saw that it was running as same as my friend's iPhone did (55-60 without lag spikes) in the same graphics settings. I installed cpu monitoring app on my phone to see what's happening and I saw that CPU wasn't maxed out. 2 or 3 (I think stronger cores) weren't working. So I thought that they are corrupted or sth. so I did a benchmark with monitoring on and I saw that only then all cores were working(didn't test the S7 that was on shop though). So what it can be? Do I need to root my phone or is the phone itself bad? Please help.
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Actually I have exynos S7 G930F variant I use to get lock ups playing Bloons TD 5 but after clearing recents and leaving that game still running it fixed the issue and got full speed no lock ups try clear recents before running games (I'm on superman rom and super kernel with default settings)
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Well I play BTD Battles(a little more intensive game than BTD5) and getting no problem, even in 30th round. I clear the recents and use Smart Manager widget to get some free ram before running a game.
I see you are rooted right? Do I really need to root my phone? It's only about 2 weeks old and I worried a little for the warranty but if there's no solution for without root then I will manage to make it at some point.
P.S. I think you are secured from this happening because you have a root and a custom rom and kernel so you can manage everything
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Exynos G930F comes to a crawl at level 100+ on BTD5 with so much on screen
Don't forget that you have 4 times more pixel than the iPhone SE.
yea this might be the case but its got better battery life so you give and you get some
If possible, I will try to make a video on the shop's S7 and my s7's performance.
P.S. I wonder if G930X has Snapdragon because I can't find any info about this model in internet. If yes then everything's solved I guess
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DarkLTU said:
If possible, I will try to make a video on the shop's S7 and my s7's performance.
P.S. I wonder if G930X has Snapdragon because I can't find any info about this model in internet. If yes then everything's solved I guess
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https://compubench.com/device.jsp?b...D=Samsung+Galaxy+S7+(SM-G930x)&testgroup=info
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Thanks man!
Then everything's solved in this situation, but another question comes up: why CPU in Exynos version isn't maxed in game Critical Ops? Because if SD version has 4 cores and it works better than in my phone it means that something has to do with cores.
Can it be the game's problem and i need to report this problem?
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Possible the game need optimising for 8 cores, but I think the SD S7 has slightly better graphics scores than the Exynos too
Ok so I reported the problem to developers now I need yo wait for their response.
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New update rolled out yesterday so I updated and C-ops works pretty smoothly(better!) but still lag spikes.
But now I downloaded Minecraft: Pocket Edition and IT'S NOT 60FPS! It's SOMEWHAT smooth BUT sometimes I see 20-30fps in scenes that aren't showing much of a landscape. And I tried playing HearthStone, NFS:No Limits, GTA:SA and Alto's Adventure (because it was lagging for some people but it works good for me) and I don't see 60FPS from them either. What the hell Samsung. FYI, I tried turning off App power saving in Settings>Battery>App power saving.
P.S. I have read some articles and people said S6 (8 core phone) has worse performance BUT in Marshmallow, not Lollipop so let's hope it will change in Nougat.
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Exynos variant has a weaker GPU than Qualcomm so most games will have lower FPS. Exynos does have a stronger CPU and better battery life but that doesn't help out so much with gaming.
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Exynos variant has a weaker GPU than Qualcomm so most games will have lower FPS. Exynos does have a stronger CPU and better battery life but that doesn't help out so much with gaming.
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But what about iPhone SE then? It has garbage GPU (let's be honest) but CPU is very strong but still performs a little better than my phone. Maybe resolution helps.
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I am thinking, should I sell my S7 for another phone? What do you guys think? Do you have any recommendations for another phone?
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I wouldn't sell my S7 just because a single game won't reach 60 Fps, sure, the Adreno 530 on the SD Variant is a bit stronger but that doesn't mean the Mali T880 is weak by any means. I'm guessing it must be the software optimization probably because the developers were using an Adreno GPU or a Qualcomm developed gpu. Either way, try tinkering with the settings ( disabling Vsync and anti aliasing ) and see if that would work. You could also try overclocking the GPU if you want.
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After seeing dozens of vids i started to notice in Russians vids (Exynos Version) UI transitions seems to be more snappier than vids using S600 version.
In russians vids all in S4 seems pretty smooth and fast (like here and other vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ymXQHSxOh4).
In s600 vids seemed to me have seen something clawing here and there.
Someone more have notice this or is just a placebo effect i have.
Thx.
I'm dying to see 2 versions face to face.
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Placebo it's probably using the a7s anyway when UI browsing
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Placebo it's probably using the a7s anyway when UI browsing
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That may be true, but the GPU is more power full so it could be faster due to that. I don't know, they both look good to me.
Also dont know, as i said after seeing many videos I found myself looking preferably Russians videos because what i saw in their S4 screens looks better to me than no Russians vids, although in beginning didnt associated they use Exynos version.
I hope is placebo effect because here we only have S600 version....arrhhhh SAM.
wish it could've been subtitled. I couldn't understand at all.
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It's possible. Neither has the final SW out and Samsung has been working on the Exynos version before they realized they'll need the Snapdragon to meet all the demand. How quickly they managed to adapt with all features to a different SoC only means they'll improve it further upon launch and then some, but I can't say I've seen any lag on either version in videos.
The only thing's bothering me is the home button lag cause it waits for double input, can you turn it off?
Also, is there a way to make AirView pop-ups instantaneous like mouse hover instead of waiting a second over the content?
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The only thing's bothering me is the home button lag cause it waits for double input, can you turn it off?
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Rude and unhelpful, when i dont understand what someone is trying to say i dont do such kind of comment.
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I don't think there was any intent to be rude in his statement. There is a beta caption translator built into YouTube which gives you a rough idea what he is saying if you enable it.
Still delaying my preorder/early upgrade because of this (although most likely placebo) and other reasons. Really hope the i9500 someone makes it here to the UK so I can get rid of my temp-phone BlackBerry! :crying:
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I don't think there was any intent to be rude in his statement. There is a beta caption translator built into YouTube which gives you a rough idea what he is saying if you enable it.
Still delaying my preorder/early upgrade because of this (although most likely placebo) and other reasons. Really hope the i9500 someone makes it here to the UK so I can get rid of my temp-phone BlackBerry! :crying:
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Thanks, I hadn't realized that.
At first glance it seemed to be referring to my post, @emylia777 might have added that was referred to youtube vid.
@emylia777, In that case i apologize.
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That may be true, but the GPU is more power full so it could be faster due to that. I don't know, they both look good to me.
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The Adreno 320 should be similar performance to the SGX544MP3 on the Exynos. Both of the chips GPU are clocked higher than stock, we know the SGX544MP3 is at 533Mhz. Plus in theory the Adreno 320 still should perform better due to better intergration in the GPU. The Adreno 320 has more to offer than the SGX544MP3 in the long run such as OpenGL 3.0 and Open CL 1.0, which should make the UI smoother.
Anyways, I won't be surprised in the Exynos version is more optimized, the A7 CPU is a lot slower than the Snapdragon 600, so they'll have to make it optimize for the Exynos chip than the S600.
With 2 GBs of RAM, who knows how many things are running and what is on the priority list. Those are things we don't get to see in these videos.
I wonder if lets say having 5 memory intensive apps open would bog down the CPU priority list and slow the device down a bit.
First comparative says the Octa version delivers 10% better benchmark performance to the Snapdragon 600 variant
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and better battery life.
http://www.galaxy-s4.info/galaxy-s4...os-5-octa-detailed-review-by-russian-websites
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Hi all, for those of you interested, I shot a video focus on the GT-I9505 performance while running cpu/gpu intensive games like Real Racing 3, Need For Speed Most Wanted, Asphalt 7, Dead Trigger, etc
http://youtu.be/Ibj_o5YahhM
Ciaoooooo
Very nice video!
One concern that I had, and now after watching this video is an even bigger concern, is gaming performance. Overall all games are somewhat lagging, I believe that this is due to the high resolution, that not only it has to process more pixels, but also requires additional video memory, which I believe is shared with the system memory.
I got very excited to buy this phone after S4 GE announcement, but now I'm skeptical, I have seen the Nexus 4 running games a lot smoother than this and I'm worried I will have to upgrade again soon in the future for a phone with a better GPU like Adreno 330 to be able to play newer games in 1920x1080 while the Nexus 4 could still play the same game smoothly.
What do you guys think? are you also disappointed with gaming performance?
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Very nice video!
One concern that I had, and now after watching this videos is an even bigger concern, is gaming performance. Overall all games are somewhat lagging, I believe that this is due to the high resolution, that not only has to process more pixels, but also requires additional video memory, which I believe is shared with the system memory.
I got very excited to buy this phone after S4 GE announcement, but now I'm skeptical, I have seen the Nexus 4 running games a lot smoother than this and I'm worried I will have to upgrade again soon in the future for a phone with a better GPU like Adreno 330 to be able to play newer games in 1920x1080 while the Nexus 4 could still play the same game smoothly.
What do you guys think? are you also disappointed with gaming performance?
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Frankly speaking, I'm disappointed for the whole performance experience with my GT-I9505. The whole system it's not perfectly smooth and there's some stuttering here and there. The same issue obviously happen during games, although it's not so noticeable.
To be honest, any device I tried with the recent Qualcomm architecture (I mean both APQ8064 and APQ8064T Snapdragon 600), screen resolution apart, was not completely smooth during games like NFSMW or Real Racing 3. And, just to give a term of comparison, I had: PadFone 2, Nexus 4, Xperia Z, Optimus G, HTC One and Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505). On Android OS, I could just see the Galaxy Note 2 (Exynos and Mali of course) running almost perfectly smooth Need For Speed Most Wanted. Then, I wouldn't be that worried about games and even more about general performances of GT-I9505. Samsung it's relatively new to APQ8064(T), then I guess it can only get better in the next updates.
Any game not running perfect on this phone just needs optimization that's all. The soc is relatively new in most regards, and aside from the mali-t6, has the most capable graphics card out there. The mali 400 used in the s2 through the note 2 handle every game just about prefect.
Swyped from a minimalist S2
how abouti9500 one and is it better:? they gave me this version im so sad and i forced to chose this phone
I think octa is more for gamming, gpu have more Power, some games really need optimizations
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I think octa is more for gamming, gpu have more Power, some games really need optimizations
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Dont think so
The 320 is on the same level as the power vr , according to some sites , the adreno is little bit better
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Playing real racing and fpse and had never a lag and a slow down.
Most people which say s4 is slow use the crappy touchwiz interface.
I can tell you guys its not the phone or the hardware which is laggy,its just touchwiz.
Get rid of it and you will never have a lag,launcher redraw or a slow down anymore
Edit:
I run a superslim deodexed and pre rooted 4.2.2 rom and have no lag and perfect battery life.
Just try it guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
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Any game not running perfect on this phone just needs optimization that's all. The soc is relatively new in most regards, and aside from the mali-t6, has the most capable graphics card out there. The mali 400 used in the s2 through the note 2 handle every game just about prefect.
Swyped from a minimalist S2
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Yeah I think it's this and a combination of the Touchwiz interface and other bloated apps / processes.
optimising games for the phones hardware will increase performance in terms of average fps and that sort of thing but these random dips and microstutters we see are caused by background processes and services. Touchwiz is the main culprit but not the only culprit.
kamranhaghighi said:
how abouti9500 one and is it better:? they gave me this version im so sad and i forced to chose this phone
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The 9500 uses the Octacore. It's a little bit more powerful than the APQ8064T you can find into the 9505.
On the other side, you will just have HSPA modem, not the LTE one. Only in korea for what I can remember, Samsung release an Octacore version together with an LTE modem.
If you don't need or you can't use LTE, you should have a slightly better device than the 9505.
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The 9500 uses the Octacore. It's a little bit more powerful than the APQ8064T you can find into the 9505.
On the other side, you will just have HSPA modem, not the LTE one. Only in korea for what I can remember, Samsung release an Octacore version together with an LTE modem.
If you don't need or you can't use LTE, you should have a slightly better device than the 9505.
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in iran we dont even have 3g we have 2g or edge that max speed is 10kb/s! that means 80kbps! seems they are alsmot same anyway i dont ahve performance probelms and happy whit my s4 expext I FORCED TO PAY a lot of money i was goign to buy nexus 4 they gave me wrong version (8gb) they told me w dont have the 16gb so i forced to chose that! btw it wroth screen is freakigna wesome and thin and light (i dont care about weight and thin!)
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Dont think so
The 320 is on the same level as the power vr , according to some sites , the adreno is little bit better
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Both have their advantages. Power VR can push out more FPS but the adreno has a better hexagon fill rate. The adreno 320is the newer chip and unfortunately many games are not optimized for it yet. The power vr on the I9500 is older and thus why some games will play more smoothly. If you try a game like real racing 3 you will see what I mean. However, a game like asphalt 7, both devices should handle well.
But why should Asphalt be no problem? I played it and it plays smooth Like it should. The game Epoch is running smooth but a simple game as carmaggedon has frame drop. Epoch is unreal powered and looks awsome.
Could this be because of optimizing games? I sure hope so. I love the device.
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Any owners of p900 model?
Mine is coming and im looking for some guidance on how to make the most of the device / and or possibilities of customisation.
There are tons of postings here for you to go through
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Any owners of p900 model?
Mine is coming and im looking for some guidance on how to make the most of the device / and or possibilities of customisation.
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Rooted users are bridging the gap in developement with Xposed mods etc.
Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!
If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button.
Some reviews question the performance of the exynos model... Have there been samsung software updates addressing the issues? Im also confused as to whether the 8 cores are simultaneously used or not in 5420( HMP feature , or whatever its called),
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Some reviews question the performance of the exynos model... Have there been samsung software updates addressing the issues? Im also confused as to whether the 8 cores are simultaneously used or not in 5420( HMP feature , or whatever its called),
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The Exynos 5420 currently runs as a dual quad-core cpu. Either the four A7 cores are active, or when more performance is needed, the A7s turn off and the four A15 cores get enabled. From what I've read, HMP (having all 8 cores enabled simultaneously) will be enabled with a new kernel.
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Some reviews question the performance of the exynos model... Have there been samsung software updates addressing the issues? Im also confused as to whether the 8 cores are simultaneously used or not in 5420( HMP feature , or whatever its called),
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Apparently Samsung has some optimization work to do, with its octacore processor.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review...ote-Pro-12-2-LTE-SM-P905-Tablet.113712.0.html
Basically i am getting worried about the exynos version as in reviews there have been reports of stuttering or lag. Can that be mitigated by the user? Has there been any software update seen launch ? What were the changes / improvements, if any?
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Basically i am getting worried about the exynos version as in reviews there have been reports of stuttering or lag. Can that be mitigated by the user? Has there been any software update seen launch ? What were the changes / improvements, if any?
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Do you already have it in hand or is it still being shipped to you? Do you plan to root and debloat it?
Every use case is different but I can't say that I have much to complain about in terms of lag on this device. Maybe chrome but even there with some tweaks things can be improved.
Apparently, it will be shipped tomorrow and will arrive in a couple of more days thereon.. Thanks Any more feedback will be appreciated
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You didn't mention your intention to root or not. IMO it will make a difference. Totally understandnot wanting to at first though. Using a third party launcher and adjusting animation scale in developer options helps too.
Between freezing applications in titanium backup and tweaking things using xposed modules or multi window app tweaks I've done so many tweaks to my device I don't know if I could name them all. Throughout it all the tablet performs admirably. I'm no gamer though.
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Not rooting at first due to warranty considerations. I guess no samsung updates since launch? Im just wondering whether they are gonna optimize things for exynos etc and support it properly
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Yeah my advice would be to not worry too much about benchmarks. Up until now I haven't run any on this device but I did install linpak and quadrant this morning to check. Both results are inconsistent with the article that was linked earlier in this thread. Linpak was consistently over 400 and got as high as 477 (each time claiming inconsistent results in its report) and quadrant showed a very low score of 11,000 or so.
Unless you game heavily though I'm sure things will work out fine for you.
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The note pros expos 5420 actually outperforms the snapdragon 800 in cpu
Power. The four in the snapdragon is a bit faster though. All in all the processors are practical equals in performance. The note pro wifi exynos 5420 is powerful enough to run any app or game you can download at high settings (minus those games specifically optimized for the snapdragon or tegra) I am pretty picky with devices and the note pro wife stock is one of the smoothest devices I have ever used. It certainly outperforms any tablet and only barely falls behind its little brother the note 3 in speed. The note 3 is smoother but I think this is due to the lower pixel count on the screen lowering the go load. The note pro wifi version will run emulators better than the snapdragon as well. Rooting will also do a lot for your performance by removing bloatware.
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I dont suppose there are ways to safely overclock exynos?
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I dont suppose there are ways to safely overclock exynos?
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There is really never a safe way to overclock any type of CPU or GPU the max safe setting IS what it is already set at 9 out of 10 times according to most CPU manufacturers IE Intel and AMD. Therefore, I would logically assume that since they recommend NOT going over the recommended settings, because you technically CAN fry out the CPU if not careful at any setting past the max safe setting the CPU is at stock no matter how little the tweak its possible. Not saying it will happen, but just saying its always a risk there is nothing safe when overclocking.
Hey Geeks,
Recently my friend purchased this phone but is facing ridiculous lag while trying to play "Nova 3", truely speaking this game is not playable at all. Even the game videos that come in between stages tend to lag. While i saw couple of gaming review videos where Nova 3 Runs smoothly on this phone except for one user who was also facing heavy lags. My friend got this phone couple days back and there is no software update avaialble for the phone as of now. Spec wise, phone should be able to run this game flawlessly as even xiaomi phones with meditek processor clocked lower are able to run this game smoothly.
I was wondering if anyone could suggest some solution for that.
please clarify if Problem is with the handset itself or some software update screwed it or some tweaking is required to rage CPU to be able to handle this game smoothly.
FYI:Its a 16GB internal, 2GB Ram Version
Regards
Can I have some reply please
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Play it on your 1+1?
There's no custom kernels out for oc support so no way to boost performance. I would clear recents and before playing or maybe a full restart to clear out your ram. Re-install app?
Star Wars uprising runs pretty good on my moto g3... few hiccups but overall pretty good.
I don't think overlooking is required at all coz Cpu seems capable enough as I already mentioned that lower spec xiaomi phone can run this game without lag ?
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Hi. After a year of having my S5 mini I am done. It is old and using 2012 processor in 2016 is not a good idea. So I looked at the phones and I decided to buy S7(Exynos model) for a quite some time.
BY YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE, can you say:
Will it run 3D (like C-OPS) games on max graphics on 60FPS?(Or 60FPS at all?(with low graphics etc.))
What are the most common bugs/glitches/problems on it?
Are they that bad that you would recommend to avoid S7?
If the device is not good by your opinion, can you suggest a different one?
Is it worth the price?
Why do I ask these specific questions? Because I don't have enough money to change the phone every year or even earlier so I want to have high end device that would handle minimum 2 years.
P.S.(if it will help) I can pick it up at electronics shop in my country for 400 euro(discount!).
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I think the phone is worth the price, but you also have the one plus 3.. s7 runs all games on max graphics easily.
Im in love with the phone and im sure that it will last few years
And.. I bought it one month ago and until now i had 0 bugs and errors.. non rooted btw
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Get the Edge for the extra wow factor
drummerman said:
Get the Edge for the extra wow factor
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Well it doesn't have discount on my market that I buy (and others don't too) and I don't want to buy because of bigger screen (I prefer smaller phones).
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DarkLTU said:
Well it doesn't have discount on my market that I buy (and others don't too) and I don't want to buy because of bigger screen (I prefer smaller phones).
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Worth every penny.
hi
my only problem with the S7 is the HEAT. but U cannot buy phone nowdays, what will remain cold. I cannot found any.
tiborprogmed said:
hi
my only problem with the S7 is the HEAT. but U cannot buy phone nowdays, what will remain cold. I cannot found any.
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I found my s7 overheating at first but then I under clocked it a bit(STILL VERY FAST AND SMOOTH) and my issue was solved. You can also try coolify.
If you ask me, yes, it is worth buying if you have a 3 year old, slow smartphone, due for an upgrade and features like 'Better Low Light Photography' and 'Water Resistance'. The phone definitely looks promising enough and looks absolutely beautiful. Consider your pros and cons budget wise, but I think it's definitely worth the buy.
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I found my s7 overheating at first but then I under clocked it a bit(STILL VERY FAST AND SMOOTH) and my issue was solved. You can also try coolify.
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it needs root.
I will not trip my knox. I do not understand the new sd821, they overclocked the WARM, HOT CPU.... It get hot, after 5 min of gameplay. completly useless the power it gives us, if u cannot use in warm conditions ( hot summers)
p.s.: my sd810 Z5 only last for 1-2 min of gameplay, SO s7 won this match, BUT.......with minutes
tiborprogmed said:
it needs root.
I will not trip my knox. I do not understand the new sd821, they overclocked the WARM, HOT CPU.... It get hot, after 5 min of gameplay. completly useless the power it gives us, if u cannot use in warm conditions ( hot summers)
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I mean you could try some of the cooling apps on the play store.
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I mean you could try some of the cooling apps on the play store.
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Those apps are all bull****, stay away from such stuff. The only way to lower heat is to lower performance, some apps might be able to underclock the CPU or change governor but those that claim to lower heat without root are just shady apps.
on topic: I bought the flat s7, exynos variant too and well, I'm not disappointed at all so far. Screen is amazing as expected, wifi/data speeds are top notch, battery is surprisingly good and most bloatware can easily be disabled now even without root thanks to this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro (careful with what you disable, some apps are obviously necessary for the phone to function and disabling them can result in features not working or even bootlops, make sure you know what it is you're disabling)
as for cons, well the price will always sting so there's that, it also seems like the GPU on the exynos variant is slightly weaker than the one in the snapdragon variant but I'm not a big gamer so I can't comment much on that and it can occasionally stutter a bit if you're performing certain tasks, like having multiple apps updating while gaming or right after you apply a new theme but those are special occasions where the CPU is obviously being stressed. Day to day usage, there's not much if any lag at all.
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Those apps are all bull****, stay away from such stuff. The only way to lower heat is to lower performance, some apps might be able to underclock the CPU or change governor but those that claim to lower heat without root are just shady apps.
on topic: I bought the flat s7, exynos variant too and well, I'm not disappointed at all so far. Screen is amazing as expected, wifi/data speeds are top notch, battery is surprisingly good and most bloatware can easily be disabled now even without root thanks to this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro (careful with what you disable, some apps are obviously necessary for the phone to function and disabling them can result in features not working or even bootlops, make sure you know what it is you're disabling)
as for cons, well the price will always sting so there's that, it also seems like the GPU on the exynos variant is slightly weaker than the one in the snapdragon variant but I'm not a big gamer so I can't comment much on that and it can occasionally stutter a bit if you're performing certain tasks, like having multiple apps updating while gaming or right after you apply a new theme but those are special occasions where the CPU is obviously being stressed. Day to day usage, there's not much if any lag at all.
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I never use cooling apps but for people who don't have root there's not much you can do.
Just pour water on the phone to cool lol ?
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What about RAM? How much is left for the user? I heard that's only 1GB... Now you will say "That's enough RAM!" It is. But the fact that 4GB RAM device leaves only 1GB free is unbelievable.
My Windows 8 PC x64 uses only 2GB when no apps are running. And my old Vista x32 used 900MB only! Even my S5 mini with Touchwiz when no apps are running uses 800MB or even lower. I even got 563MB RAM using only some time in its life. I don't know what the problem is but I think this is all Samsung's fault. Like why the hell they need to modify Android so much?! Just create a slightly modified Stock ROM with some additional apps like Smart Manager and Galaxy Apps and change to Samsung wallpapers and that's it.
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What about RAM? How much is left for the user? I heard that's only 1GB... Now you will say "That's enough RAM!" It is. But the fact that 4GB RAM device leaves only 1GB free is unbelievable.
My Windows 8 PC x64 uses only 2GB when no apps are running. And my old Vista x32 used 900MB only! Even my S5 mini with Touchwiz when no apps are running uses 800MB or even lower. I even got 563MB RAM using only some time in its life. I don't know what the problem is but I think this is all Samsung's fault. Like why the hell they need to modify Android so much?! Just use Stock ROM with some additional apps like Smart Manager and Galaxy Apps then change wallpapers and that's it.
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You can't compare ram manager of Windows and Android systems, very different! In Android free ram is a wasted ram! So..... more stuff in ram....more quickly it opens app or background process, if the user needs more ram to open a hungry app the system will close other stuff to satisfy the user needs. Is this really important in the rom....ram manager! Samsung have to do a good job to give us a very tune and balance ram manager for the system running smoothly.
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DarkLTU said:
What about RAM? How much is left for the user? I heard that's only 1GB... Now you will say "That's enough RAM!" It is. But the fact that 4GB RAM device leaves only 1GB free is unbelievable.
My Windows 8 PC x64 uses only 2GB when no apps are running. And my old Vista x32 used 900MB only! Even my S5 mini with Touchwiz when no apps are running uses 800MB or even lower. I even got 563MB RAM using only some time in its life. I don't know what the problem is but I think this is all Samsung's fault. Like why the hell they need to modify Android so much?! Just use Stock ROM with some additional apps like Smart Manager and Galaxy Apps then change wallpapers and that's it.
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Where did you get that from?
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Where did you get that from?
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Can you comment then how much RAM is free?
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Can you comment then how much RAM is free?
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Yes.
You have Smart Manager in TW. It will tell you current usage and provide a facility to reclaim RAM if needed.
I have between about 1.6 and 2.3 gb free, depending on usage.
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Yes.
You have Smart Manager in TW. It will tell you current usage and provide a facility to reclaim RAM if needed.
I have between about 1.6 and 2.3 gb free, depending on usage.
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You are talking about Snapdragon(US) or Exynos(EU) variant? Because that's what I am going to buy because I don't live in US which is kinda sad.
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You are talking about Snapdragon(US) or Exynos(EU) variant? Because that's what I am going to buy because I don't live in US which is kinda sad.
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Doesn't matter. Both run the same TW.