For those who are on AT&T and got their Pixel, are you seeing VoLTE and can you enable WiFi Calling?
For those who use T-Mobile, we know it supports VoLTE and WiFi Calling on Nexus, so Pixel will likely follow. The important question is whether it supports EVS (Enhanced Voice Service). I don't know how you would verify. An "HD" symbol during a call would be a good start.
HD voice is not indicative of EVS. In fact, HD voice was around before VoLTE. The Qualcomm release says the modem supports it: https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/10/04/pixel-phones-made-google-powered-snapdragon-821 but I don't think that means it is able to be used on T-Mobile. I.e., tons of phones support B12 but not certified for use.
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HD voice is not indicative of EVS. In fact, HD voice was around before VoLTE. The Qualcomm release says the modem supports it: https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/10/04/pixel-phones-made-google-powered-snapdragon-821 but I don't think that means it is able to be used on T-Mobile. I.e., tons of phones support B12 but not certified for use.
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I agree, that is why I said that HD symbol is a good place to start. On Samsung phones with T-Mobile, the HD symbol often indicates EVS:WB. At the very least, it is using some sort of wide band. We know that 6P/5X do not support EVS. I am curious to know whether Pixel/XL can operate EVS on T-Mo.
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I agree, that is why I said that HD symbol is a good place to start. On Samsung phones with T-Mobile, the HD symbol often indicates EVS:WB. At the very least, it is using some sort of wide band. We know that 6P/5X do not support EVS. I am curious to know whether Pixel/XL can operate EVS on T-Mo.
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All EVS is Wideband, not all Wideband is EVS though. The HD symbol has been around for a while, it just meant the call was HD.
Bad news: No VoLTE on AT&T. Shame...
As expected, Pixel on T-Mobile has VoLTE and WiFi Calling. I made a call to another T-Mo phone (Samsung) and it showed HD on both ends. I know the Samsung phone is using EVS, but wish I can tell if the Pixel is using EVS or AMR:WB.
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Bad news: No VoLTE on AT&T. Shame...
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That's good old att for you.
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That's good old att for you.
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That really sucks big time! Why ATT?
Is there at least WIFI calling?
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Just chatted with AT&T and updated the IMEI of my Google Pixel XL in their system.
No VoLTE or WiFi Calling is available.
Specifically asked a pretty "intelligent" AT&T Chat Tech Support Rep , she came back with: Amber: "Since the device is currently built for the Verizon network, it is not currently eligible for the AT&T HD Voice network which is needed for wifi calling."
Does Sprint have anything like hd calling?
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I just realize the charge does voice over date
I didn't think that was possible.
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I just realize the charge does voice over date
I didn't think that was possible.
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It is possible, but not exactly on Verizon.
You can do voice and data simultaneously on the SamChg, as long as you have a 4G data connection. If you're on 3G data, you're also out of luck.
That said, the LG Revolution has the proper modem chipset to support VoLTE (Voice over LTE), whenever Verizon decides to implement that feature.
The SamChg does not have the VoLTE chipset, though - so what we have now is all we're going to get. But, as 4G reception becomes more available, it probably won't be much of an issue that the SamChg doesn't have VoLTE.
Cheers,
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It is possible, but not exactly on Verizon.
You can do voice and data simultaneously on the SamChg, as long as you have a 4G data connection. If you're on 3G data, you're also out of luck.
That said, the LG Revolution has the proper modem chipset to support VoLTE (Voice over LTE), whenever Verizon decides to implement that feature.
The SamChg does not have the VoLTE chipset, though - so what we have now is all we're going to get. But, as 4G reception becomes more available, it probably won't be much of an issue that the SamChg doesn't have VoLTE.
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I see. Well having it available over 4g is awesome, better than not having any option!
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I see. Well having it available over 4g is awesome, better than not having any option!
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I wouldn't own a Verizon phone until the silly lack of simultaneous voice and data was addressed. It's a fault requirement for me.
I stated with the Thunderbolt and now have the Charge as well. I'm disappointed that the Charge can't do the simultaneous stuff on 3G like the Thunderbolt, but I'm usually in 4G area so is not a huge issue. I issues it carry two phones anyways, not sure why it matters to me so much.
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The charge can simultaneously do data over 4G while on a voice call, but that's different from voice over data, as ¿GotJazz? explained.
You know, I switched to Verizon when I switched companies back in 2008, and didn't realize for well over a year I couldn't do voice and 3G data at the same time. When I first heard about it I thought, "That sucks!", but then I realized if I hadn't noticed, it probably shouldn't really matter to me.
Thought this may be of interest... I see other threads out there related to some older phones, but nothing related to the GNex5, so I thought I'd start one here.
I'm on Sprint, and apparently I can't do simultaneous voice and data with LTE or 3g during voice calls. Wifi seems to work just fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Sprint? What's the experience for those using T-Mobile/ATT? Stock or unlocked? I've also noticed that I'm unable to update my PRL or Profile (Network Error). I am unlocked and rooted at the moment. Did not notice this as I didn't tinker with it prior to unlocking.
Coming from Samsung GS3 and GN2 with Sprint where the LTE/3G radio is separated, I did not realize this was still a technological challenge... I went with this phone simply because it was inexpensive for the hardware and I don't have to renew my contract to avoid paying an arm and a leg. Have I just hit a "You get what you pay for" scenario, putting me (or anyone using CDMA) back 3 years in radio tech??
The phone has to support SVDO in order to do voice+data on Sprint. Very, very few phones do (the EVO 4G LTE did, the HTC One didn't, for example). It requires a special antenna configuration as well IIRC.
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Thought this may be of interest... I see other threads out there related to some older phones, but nothing related to the GNex5, so I thought I'd start one here.
I'm on Sprint, and apparently I can't do simultaneous voice and data with LTE or 3g during voice calls. Wifi seems to work just fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Sprint? What's the experience for those using T-Mobile/ATT? Stock or unlocked? I've also noticed that I'm unable to update my PRL or Profile (Network Error). I am unlocked and rooted at the moment. Did not notice this as I didn't tinker with it prior to unlocking.
Coming from Samsung GS3 and GN2 with Sprint where the LTE/3G radio is separated, I did not realize this was still a technological challenge... I went with this phone simply because it was inexpensive for the hardware and I don't have to renew my contract to avoid paying an arm and a leg. Have I just hit a "You get what you pay for" scenario, putting me (or anyone using CDMA) back 3 years in radio tech??
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Unfortunately no, the nexus 5 does not support SVDO or SVLTE. This means it also will only connect to one airlink at a time - when you receive a call, it will switch to 1x, pausing your LTE, similar to older handsets.
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Unfortunately no, the nexus 5 does not support SVDO or SVLTE. This means it also will only connect to one airlink at a time - when you receive a call, it will switch to 1x, pausing your LTE, similar to older handsets.
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Too bad... Found more on s4gru regarding this:
"That is what we have been told. Sprint tri band LTE devices will not support SVLTE. Whether that is due to band 26 LTE 800, band 41 TD-LTE 2600, or the combination of the two, we do not know. And the sample size is very small right now to project unconditionally into the future. But the standard expectation going forward should be no SVLTE on Sprint multi band LTE devices. Simultaneous voice and data will have to be accomplished by other means, such as third party VoIP apps and eventually VoLTE."
I are a sad sprint customer lol. Also why I went with a multi carrier phone off contract June 2014 can't come soon enough, cause I loves this phone!
This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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I hear that. My biggest issue with switching providers is that I average 5-6gb of data usage/mo on my line and about 12gb combined with the other two phones on my family plan (Ting told me not to switch lol). It's hard to beat the bargain offered for services rendered from Sprint. Nickles and dimes I suppose. Oh well, maybe 2015 will be the year of the phone... (Oh wait, we'll probably have 5g by then and tri-band will evolve to octa-band with the same problems )
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I hear that. My biggest issue with switching providers is that I average 5-6gb of data usage/mo on my line and about 12gb combined with the other two phones on my family plan (Ting told me not to switch lol). It's hard to beat the bargain offered for services rendered from Sprint. Nickles and dimes I suppose. Oh well, maybe 2015 will be the year of the phone... (Oh wait, we'll probably have 5g by then and tri-band will evolve to octa-band with the same problems )
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I still have a family plan on sprint so if my data amount becomes an issue I'll go back but for now I'll sacrifice more data for fast and always available data, and at a rate of $45 I'll take it.
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This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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I have ST AT&T service. When I am on a call though, I lose LTE. It switches me to H (HPSA I think). Speed is not terrible, but would be nicer to have LTE while on a call. Do you have the same experience? If not, do you know how I can have LTE while on a call? Thanks.
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I have ST AT&T service. When I am on a call though, I lose LTE. It switches me to H (HPSA I think). Speed is not terrible, but would be nicer to have LTE while on a call. Do you have the same experience? If not, do you know how I can have LTE while on a call? Thanks.
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Nope, that's by design. It has to do with available radios. If LTE isn't on a separate radio it can't be used simultaneously. On the upside, having less radios means better battery life overall.
Does anyone know how to check if AMR-WB (HD Voice) is enabled on our Nexus 5? And if there is a way to force enable it like on the S2 and S3?
I'm on Rogers in Canada and it certainly doesn't sound like it is enabled.
I'm not quite sure how to check, but I'm on T-Mobile in the US and notice a significant difference in call quality when calling other Nexus 5's on T-Mobile vs phones on other carriers or non-HD Voice phones on T-Mobile.
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I'm not quite sure how to check, but I'm on T-Mobile in the US and notice a significant difference in call quality when calling other Nexus 5's on T-Mobile vs phones on other carriers or non-HD Voice phones on T-Mobile.
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You mean that the quality is better or worse?
There has got to be a way to force-enable HD Voice or to figure out whether AMR-WB is enabled or not. Doesn't someone have a way of reaching the service menu on the Nexus 5?
It sounds significantly better when calling other HD Voice enabled phones on T-Mobile than when calling phones or networks that don't support it.
Do keep in mind that you need to be calling someone else with an HD Voice compatible phone on an HD Voice compatible network. So make sure that the person you are calling to test is also using a Nexus 5 or one of Rogers HD voice enabled phones.
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It sounds significantly better when calling other HD Voice enabled phones on T-Mobile than when calling phones or networks that don't support it.
Do keep in mind that you need to be calling someone else with an HD Voice compatible phone on an HD Voice compatible network. So make sure that the person you are calling to test is also using a Nexus 5 or one of Rogers HD voice enabled phones.
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I've called someone else with a Nexus 4 on my network and the quality is average. I'd really like to figure out if AMR-WB is enabled on my device.
Isn't there a Service menu we can access? It's possible to find this out on the S3...
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I've called someone else with a Nexus 4 on my network and the quality is average. I'd really like to figure out if AMR-WB is enabled on my device.
Isn't there a Service menu we can access? It's possible to find this out on the S3...
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Well, there's *#*#4636#*#* but I don't see anything in there about HD voice. AFAIK there's no way to "enable" it... if your carrier supports it, and the person you're calling supports it, it should use HD voice.
Here's some interesting news for those of us on Verizon. I wonder if this will be included in a future update from Motorola?
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/12/07/verizon-introduces-wifi-calling-tomorrow-to-the-galaxy-s6/
people on iphone for a while could use verizon messages to place wifi calls not sure about android you can try,and I would guess if verizon allows them then sure why not
what i would like to know if we are going to get it, seeing that we didn't get our phones from verizon.......
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what i would like to know if we are going to get it, seeing that we didn't get our phones from verizon.......
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We may...T-Mobile users have WiFi calling on this phone, dont they?
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We may...T-Mobile users have WiFi calling on this phone, dont they?
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Negative...
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Negative...
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Ah, damn. I was thinking they did for some reason. Is that supposed to come with the eventual Band 12 update (which sounds like it might be 6.0.1, at least for the 6P)?
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Ah, damn. I was thinking they did for some reason. Is that supposed to come with the eventual Band 12 update (which sounds like it might be 6.0.1, at least for the 6P)?
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Hope so, but I've not seen anything official from Motorola or T-Mobile.
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No reason for verizon to waste their time developing that for this phone when the have their own version of the phone to take care of.
Wifi calling is part of IMS, much like VoLTE. Doesn't really take much to go from VoLTE to Wifi calling. It just needs to be enabled. In some of the logs I have on 6.0, there are some IMS entries regarding VoLTE, VoWifi, ViLTE (Video over LTE), and ViWifi. Only VoLTE returns true back to the carrier.
Whether carriers will allow it is a different story altogether. Knowing Verizon, it'll be available only on Verizon branded devices (carrier variants). I wouldn't be surprised to see the Droid Turbo 2 getting VZW Wifi calling in 6.0.
I just got a cell signal booster from Verizon as my new house has little coverage. The rep informed me of WiFi calling coming but no exact time frame. So I had to spend $175 to purchase an already antiquated booster. Damn Verizon.
What's the difference between (carrier enabled) WiFi calling via the stock phone app versus calling someone via the Hangouts dialer app? Aren't they both essentially doing the same thing?
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What's the difference between (carrier enabled) WiFi calling via the stock phone app versus calling someone via the Hangouts dialer app? Aren't they both essentially doing the same thing?
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I have found the Hangouts Dialer to be unreliable. Sometimes it sounds like you are drowning under water to the other party. It also doesn't seem to ring on incoming calls due to an IPv6 bug with Android, that Google refuses to fix...unless you root and disable IPv6.
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I just got a cell signal booster from Verizon as my new house has little coverage. The rep informed me of WiFi calling coming but no exact time frame. So I had to spend $175 to purchase an already antiquated booster. Damn Verizon.
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I realize it's too late for you, but for others, if you're out of, or near the end of your contract, you can usually get them to send you a network extender for free. I called them a few years ago, and told them how my contract was almost up, and I was going to explore other providers, for better service. Once I said that, they offered to send me the extender at no charge.
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What's the difference between (carrier enabled) WiFi calling via the stock phone app versus calling someone via the Hangouts dialer app? Aren't they both essentially doing the same thing?
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Carrier Wifi calling extends the carrier network over Wifi, so you still receive calls/texts outside of your service area or deep underground. What they do is allow connections through untrusted Wifi APs and use a secure tunneling connection to their IMS framework via the internet. So, when someone calls your phone, it routes it back to your phone over the same connection and you get the call over Wifi.
whats the likelihood that we will get this working for us, any technical hurdles is this something once verizon gets to other phones will we be able to port it. just curious this will be the determining factor for me buying unlocked phones if verizon is going to screw us over i might just have to switch carriers.....
I will be receiving my U12+ tomorrow. Interested in everyone's opinion as to which carrier I should go to in order to activate on. I have been with Sprint since 2005 and obviously I have no choice but to jump elsewhere. What are your thoughts regarding T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T? I know T-Mobile is missing a band... what is everyone utilizing? Looking for the best experience as far as network quality and not being limited with HD video. Would like to be able to take advantage of this device's ability to produce great visuals... want to be able to watch 4K or 1080P videos on youtube etc... Thanks in advance for the assistance!
Verizon you'll be stuck to using just LTE with no CDMA fallback in areas that aren't yet converted. Also a hassle to activate apparently.
At&T you'll pretty much not have WiFi calling and maybe no VoLTE. AT&T is stingy I guess.
T-Mobile you'll have Wifi calling and VoLTE from the get go I believe. You won't have 600mhz but besides that everything else should be fine.
Verizon has done a good job getting LTE coverage in most areas. I've run into rural (practically middle of nowhere) areas that LTE is too week and latency is just Terrible. With my iPhone I've been forced to turn off LTE to get decent service off 3G.
I switched back to T-Mobile recently which gave me a reason to order the U12+ with no concerns on network. Yea I won't have 600mhz LTE, but I personally don't care. They've been doing a decent jump at meeting their timeline in converting 2G/E into LTE in most areas.
Went to T-Mobile store near me because I was told when I Switched carriers that any new phone I would need a new SIM Card. Guess what, a knowledgeable sales rep said no need. Took the Sim Card out of HTC U11 and inserted into U12 and instant connection. Wifi Calling did take awhile to connect for the first time after installing Leedroids Shortcutter, due no Wifi Calling icon in settings. Works great so far.
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Went to T-Mibile store near me because I was told when I Switched carriers that any new phone I would need a new SIM Card. Guess what, a knowledgeable sales rep said no need. Took the Sim Card out of HTC U11 and inserted into U12 and instant connection. Wifi Calling did take awhile to connect for the first time after installing Leedroids Shortcutter, due no Wifi Calling icon in settings. Works great so far.
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Are you able to get 1080p 60fps on youtube with TMobile? VoLTE?
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Are you able to get 1080p 60fps on youtube with TMobile? VoLTE?
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On 4G LTE Band 12, Earth from Space 1080P 60fps played with no hiccups.
Voice calls and surfing the Net at the same time is working too.
So...what is verdict here...TMobile > Verizon? Itching to go activate
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So...what is verdict here...TMobile > Verizon? Itching to go activate
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Well it has been stated with good reliable source that Verizon will not have VoLTE or WiFi Calling.
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Well it has been stated with good reliable source that Verizon will not have VoLTE or WiFi Calling.
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Thanks for the input...up and running on T-Mobile! Was the easiest transition from a carrier ever! Wifi-Calling works, VoLTE works, and phone is amazing!
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Went to T-Mobile store near me because I was told when I Switched carriers that any new phone I would need a new SIM Card. Guess what, a knowledgeable sales rep said no need. Took the Sim Card out of HTC U11 and inserted into U12 and instant connection. Wifi Calling did take awhile to connect for the first time after installing Leedroids Shortcutter, due no Wifi Calling icon in settings. Works great so far.
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That's really good to know, thanks. I'm switching to T-Mobile from Sprint myself. Been with them for 14 years, I've had enough.
I wonder if the sim card in my 10 will do the same thing?
I'll find out Monday when my 12 gets delivered.