Hi guys can you say to me how I can run f2fs file system on s6? and is worth comparing vs ext4 on s6?tnks :highfive:
marceloz5 said:
Hi guys can you say to me how I can run f2fs file system on s6? and is worth comparing vs ext4 on s6?tnks :highfive:
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Firstly you need to have a kernel installed which supports f2fs, I think only arters kernel supports it right now. The process involves converting the different partitions from ext4 to f2fs within twrp, so like data and system, if you look at benchmarks f2fs is better than ext4 but I've never done it personally so cannot give too much info, but the above is a quick rundown in what's involved
sofir786 said:
Firstly you need to have a kernel installed which supports f2fs, I think only arters kernel supports it right now. The process involves converting the different partitions from ext4 to f2fs within twrp, so like data and system, if you look at benchmarks f2fs is better than ext4 but I've never done it personally so cannot give too much info, but the above is a quick rundown in what's involved
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but its stable or secure/safe do it?
marceloz5 said:
but its stable or secure/safe do it?
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It is safe to do, but as with all mods there maybe instances where you might get hiccups. Just be aware that you are formatting the partitions so you will lose data, so make sure you do a full back up
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Just flash in clockwork and it will format your system and data partitions back to ext3. Faster than dealing with nandroid restores.
Useful for reverting from installs using Dragon or Trinity kernels that convert you to ext4.
NOTE: This FORMATS your partitions, you WILL lose all data held on them. Your phone will NOT boot until you install a ROM ZIP file or restore a nandroid backup. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
CREDIT: @paulobrien from Modaco wrote this for the O2x. I just changed the partition names to match our setup. I left his original banner in there as a result. My change amounts to about 4 bytes. If you have issues, please don't bother him, post here.
This is great...I always hesitate trying out updated or experimental kernels because of the amount of time it takes to nandroid....the cm7 kernel has been really good as of late so I've been sticking with that
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Hmmm Let the confusing questions begin in 5,4,3,2....
Thanks man!
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Reminder: NONE of my kernels and ROMs require the use of this utility. All of my kernels and ROMs are ALL NATIVE EXT3 only mounted as ext4.
faux123 said:
Reminder: NONE of my kernels and ROMs require the use of this utility. All of my kernels and ROMs are ALL NATIVE EXT3 only mounted as ext4.
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wow, i never knew that. so if we are using one of your cm7 ext4 kernels and then flash a new nightly/kang we could go back to using the stock cm kernel and wouldn't have to necessarily flash your kernel again?
mattyg151 said:
wow, i never knew that. so if we are using one of your cm7 ext4 kernels and then flash a new nightly/kang we could go back to using the stock cm kernel and wouldn't have to necessarily flash your kernel again?
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Yeap... should be no issues.
Is there a difference between this and just wiping, formating system and data, in cwm?
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billydroid said:
Is there a difference between this and just wiping, formating system and data, in cwm?
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cwm is set up to keep whatever format you have at the time you run it, so if you are on ext4, the format command will format to ext4. It makes sense, you wouldn't want to write an ext4 fs onto a partition with vfat on it, for example. Not automatically anyway. And most users wouldn't know what to tell it to use if it were to give you the option. The forum would be full of "What file system do I use?!?!?"... The usual method is to restore a nandroid backup from stock or a stock file system. This is significantly faster.
It is of somewhat limited usefulness as many kernels/roms don't change the filesystem. However, as I switch around a lot with running tests for the cm guys, my own stuff, etc., it's nice to have a fast way to deal with it.
ttabbal said:
cwm is set up to keep whatever format you have at the time you run it, so if you are on ext4, the format command will format to ext4. It makes sense, you wouldn't want to write an ext4 fs onto a partition with vfat on it, for example. Not automatically anyway. And most users wouldn't know what to tell it to use if it were to give you the option. The forum would be full of "What file system do I use?!?!?"... The usual method is to restore a nandroid backup from stock or a stock file system. This is significantly faster.
It is of somewhat limited usefulness as many kernels/roms don't change the filesystem. However, as I switch around a lot with running tests for the cm guys, my own stuff, etc., it's nice to have a fast way to deal with it.
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Thanks
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EDIT: nvm. looked over the files and got my answer.
Works great thanks for putting this together. Will come in handy.
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is this utility gonna wipe out all my data (meaning I will have to install all the apps again, setting up my phone again, signing in to google again and stuff) ?
te_quiero_forever_girl said:
is this utility gonna wipe out all my data (meaning I will have to install all the apps again, setting up my phone again, signing in to google again and stuff) ?
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Yes it will wipe.
Upgrading EXT3 to EXT4 will preserve data but downgrading from EXT4 to EXT3 won't.
With cm going ext4 this is priceless.
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xsteven77x said:
With cm going ext4 this is priceless.
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A nandroid of ext3 is the same thing also I have installed an ext3 rom over ext4 works great
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Why do we people want to go back to ext3 when ext4 is much faster and stable than all the other filesystems.
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Is this just a different type of recovery? If so, is it better to have the clockworkmod? Or is it personal preference? I seen a post somewhere that a guy was using a ext4 rom. Is there roms made for each type of recovery? And can you have ext4 and clockworkmod installed at the same time?
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schunter1226 said:
Is this just a different type of recovery? If so, is it better to have the clockworkmod? Or is it personal preference? I seen a post somewhere that a guy was using a ext4 rom. Is there roms made for each type of recovery? And can you have ext4 and clockworkmod installed at the same time?
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Yes its a different type of recovery that has ext4 support so you can install roms that support ext4 on ext4 partitions. It's personal preference but I use 4ext because it has more options than cwm. You can not have both installed. Also backups from one may not work on the other. Any rom can be flashed with either but only 4ext will allow you to change your partitions to ext4.
I also believe that all ROMs now have EXT4 support. Also be aware that if you're going to use Gene's tool to unroot, you need to be ext3 and not ext4 for it to work. Other then that I agree with gizmoe, a lot more features built in which makes it much more convenient. EXT4 recovery has the check md5 sum built in which is a neat feature I find myself using a lot!
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Yes its a different type of recovery that has ext4 support so you can install roms that support ext4 on ext4 partitions. It's personal preference but I use 4ext because it has more options than cwm. You can not have both installed. Also backups from one may not work on the other. Any rom can be flashed with either but only 4ext will allow you to change your partitions to ext4.
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EXT4 is the default for CM7 on the Ace so I don't think it is limited to 4EXT recovery. The CWM that gets compiled with CM7 has support for EXT4, but I'm not sure if there's an option to toggle this in recovery. I believe it is ony an option in the edify scripting.
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I also believe that all ROMs now have EXT4 support. Also be aware that if you're going to use Gene's tool to unroot, you need to be ext3 and not ext4 for it to work. Other then that I agree with gizmoe, a lot more features built in which makes it much more convenient. EXT4 recovery has the check md5 sum built in which is a neat feature I find myself using a lot!
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EXT4 is being used by a good many ROM cookers, but EXT3 is the default for anything that is factory HTC. CM7 went to EXT4 (for some unknown reason) and many ROM cookers thought that this was somehow the way to go, but EXT4 is really only useful in high-end multi-core server farms and/or super high-speed (15K +) SCSI disks; neither of which the Inspire has. I've heard that EXT4 is slightly faster at full disk transfers (like an update.zip package) and that's why I believe CM7 moved to this--to speed installation--but, in my opinion, you'll never really see any other benefit on an embedded device with a serial pipe to a rather slow eMMC ROM disk.
I read about f2fs partitions format, that its faster file system than default. Is it worth a play in formatting? Are there any visible results?
I have Tab 2 5100 10" 3G
luxpiotr said:
I read about f2fs partitions format, that its faster file system than default. Is it worth a play in formatting? Are there any visible results?
I have Tab 2 5100 10" 3G
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i haven't tried it but one of my friend tried and and said that he did not saw much improvements
sharingan said:
i haven't tried it but one of my friend tried and and said that he did not saw much improvements
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I'm after trye. I can say it couse more problems than improvments. I found problem with camera - cant connect to hardwere, problems with internal memory. I back to normal ext4.
F2FS fine, but hoping for BTRFS
My usage is much more minimalistic than perhaps yours, but I recently completely formatted by GT-P5110 to F2FS (apart from my microsd) and while I have yet to do any comparative benchmarking I have also not experienced any problems on Codename Lungo with AGNI's kernel. Phoronix has done plenty of benchmarking between EXT4 and F2FS with each providing benefits over the other is certain areas. To be honest, I would much rather get BTRFS onto Android and play with that. I have used it extensively on Arch Linux and it can be dialed in very well for flash and further can provide compression and will eventually support in-band deduplication.
I tried F2FS with CM11 and Blackhawk kernel and I got too many problems (no stability, no camera) and didn't see improvments (mainly in benchmarks). Then I'm back to EXT4.
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So I'm pretty sure I have my Wingray Xoom updated and using the new partitions because I have the new CM installed and running. But my issue is when I went to do the BigPart procedure the data partition wouldn't mount after switching over to F2FS so I have it in ext4. How do I get it over to F2FS because without it the tablet seems to run slow and choppy.
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So I'm pretty sure I have my Wingray Xoom updated and using the new partitions because I have the new CM installed and running. But my issue is when I went to do the BigPart procedure the data partition wouldn't mount after switching over to F2FS so I have it in ext4. How do I get it over to F2FS because without it the tablet seems to run slow and choppy.
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I'm am nowhere near an expert, but my understanding is that, while the BigPart TWRP is F2FS compatible, there are not yet any Xoom ROMS (or kernels???) that are F2FS compatible. Therefore there is no way to get F2FS to work on the Xoom at this time.
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So I'm pretty sure I have my Wingray Xoom updated and using the new partitions because I have the new CM installed and running. But my issue is when I went to do the BigPart procedure the data partition wouldn't mount after switching over to F2FS so I have it in ext4. How do I get it over to F2FS because without it the tablet seems to run slow and choppy.
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slow1234 said:
I'm am nowhere near an expert, but my understanding is that, while the BigPart TWRP is F2FS compatible, there are not yet any Xoom ROMS (or kernels???) that are F2FS compatible. Therefore there is no way to get F2FS to work on the Xoom at this time.
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F2FS needs support in the kernel. F2FS is currently only supported in 3.0+ linux kernels. As I'm sure you are both aware we have a 2.6 kernel which is now prehistoric!
BRD looked into it and from what I gather said it couldn't be done without extensive work, schischu was looking into it last month I believe and deciding whether to take on the task.
We haven't heard anything since.
I would assume we will not get F2FS but we can always hope
Well even if there aren't any ROMs or kernels that support F2FS why is it that I can't mount data partition after re-partitioning it. Shouldn't I be able to format it and mount it anyway?
Beeko said:
Well even if there aren't any ROMs or kernels that support F2FS why is it that I can't mount data partition after re-partitioning it. Shouldn't I be able to format it and mount it anyway?
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That's probably an indication that the repartition went wrong. Hop over to the bigPart thread and ask for assistance there. You may want to start over.
Does the data partition formatted to F2FS cause random reboots? I cant seem to narrow it down to anything else. Every nougat rom i tried so far seems to random reboot 3-4 times a day with clean installs. What file format is recommended for custom roms on this phone?
you need a custom kernel for that i think, i thin firekernel has support.
idk tho i dont have experience with it
I believe that ext4 is the stock filesystem type for the data partition, I've never changed it.
Actually, the stock ROM has the data partition formatted as F2FS. It's one of the factors in making the lower end processor seem as fast and snappy as it is.
You can check it in TWRP recovery. Go to advanced wipe and check the formatting for the data partition.
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Actually, the stock ROM has the data partition formatted as F2FS. It's one of the factors in making the lower end processor seem as fast and snappy as it is.
You can check it in TWRP recovery. Go to advanced wipe and check the formatting for the data partition.
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Hmm... Your right, a quick look at mount in the terminal confirms that. Sorry, my bad.
Now that we know that, I guess the F2FS file system type is probably not the cause of your issues.
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Hmm... Your right, a quick look at mount in the terminal confirms that. Sorry, my bad.
Now that we know that, I guess the F2FS file system type is probably not the cause of your issues.
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Yes. I've tried different combinations of partitions formatted to f2fs and it would only work using data as F2FS. Im using the newest aosp extended. Maybe this rom will fix my reboot problems. I am new to this phone coming from a falcon. I know one thing, i am not enjoying moto display. The screen seems to turn on when you dont want it to all the time. I miss my notification LED.