I have searched here, and only (for the g-tab) found answers that point to apps to disable the unlock bar. I would like to turn it off. Permanently.
On my Eken M001, there was a setting in scriptcmd to toggle the "slide to unlock" bar. Of course, using it required re-flashing the rom.
Is there a way to accomplish the same thing here, with the same effect?
I am using TnT lite 5. Oh and BTW, Roebeet: you are awesome. Please never stop doing that voodoo you do.
Dan
why?
just curious as to why you would want it disabled
This may not be what you're looking for, which I'm guessing is just bypassing the lock screen entirely, but WidgetLocker (not free) allows you to use a press of the back key to unlock -- you can determine how long the press needs to be. Does a lot more than that actually, but since the custom sliders it uses don't seem to work well with a tab, I use the back key to unlock on mine.
I use switch pro. Comes with a bunch of toggles including this.
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Os Money said:
just curious as to why you would want it disabled
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Because I put my tab down often, and pick it up often, and past experience has told me I dislike 'needing' to unlock it. With my Eken, the choice to 'slide to unlock' or not was mine without using an app, or the resources it consumes.
I'll look for switch pro. Widgetlocker has been a major resource hog on my phone, so I'm not likely to go that way.
But, as I said, if there is a hack/mod, I'd prefer that.
"No Lock" app does this
I am running Dman's rooted stock UCLB3 with Entropy's DD and Voodoo Lagfix. I love the setup but one this is really bothering me: I can't set the screen security time. I like the screen to go off in 15 - 30 seconds, but I want to be able to decide how long it will be until I have to use the security unlock. Now, there used to be a setting for this under Location and Security, but for some reason it is no longer there. Is it this ROM or is this missing from all 2.3.6 builds (i.e. stock)?
In case you aren't following me, I am attaching two screenshots, one from Samsung's website, the other from my phone. As you can see there is no "Timeout" menu on my phone. Was this somehow stripped from Dman's ROM (not impossible since the android.policy.jar file - the one that I believe is related to this menu - sometimes encounters issues from deodexing) or is this feature just gone from the phone? If it was stripped, how might I go about getting it back?
This is driving me mad right now, so I'd love to hear a definitive answer.
The setting that you are looking for can be found under Settings / Display. It wasn't stripped, you're just not in the correct menu.
No, that is a different setting. You'll notice that the display setting is to determine when the display will go to sleep (when it will automatically turn off), the setting I am talking about determines when the screen will lock after the screen turns off.
There are two programs with similar functions: Delayed Lock and JuiceDefender Ultimate. However, I suspect that the phone setting is still partially alive somewhere because both programs seem to wreak havoc with whatever settings are now default.
Oh, okay, now I understand. That feature isn't available in stock UCLB3, and there were no issues when deodexing.
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Thanks. That's basically the answer I wanted. I've been poking through the guts of both the stock and rooted builds trying to find out what happened. It is really irritating that it's not there (well, for me it is!) because the security screen seems to have a mind of its own, particularly if you introduce alternative lockers into the mix.
For anyone who may be interested, you may be able to set the timeout by editing values in the android.policy.jar file in framework folder. Search around, you'll find instructions. I haven't tried this.
The two apps I have found that enable this functionality are Delayed Lock and Juice Defender Ultimate. However, neither app works well with 3rd party security locks such as Go Locker. The lock delay apps trigger the system security screen lock so you may have to go through as many as 3 screens before you get to your home screen.
Sorry, there is one other app: Password Delay. I did not try this because I want to use a pattern lock. PD does not work with patterns.
Yeah, join the club lol. I just learned to deal with it after a while. But I hear you. Tried looking for some alternative ideas... and I just kept unlocking everytime.
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What do I need to do to have the pattern lock be the only lock screen I have? I removed the sense lock screen but that puts the ics lock screen first and then the pattern unlock which is a complete waste of time.
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Sense lock and pattern
Unfortunately I don't see a way to disable the HTC Sense lock since it it the only thing that protects the phones from input. You will have to unlock Sense before you can use whatever security settings you have applied.
The only thing I could see as a possiblity is removing the HTC Sense software but then what is the point of having the HTC One S? Most likely a custom ROM will be the only way to get the results you are looking for.
It is very easy to remove the sense lock screen. As I indicated, I already did that. Now the ics lockscreen comes before the pattern which makes no sense (pun not intended)
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I know this might sound like a pain, but using the facial recognition will also work, if the recognition doesnt recognize it goes to a pattern unlock.
You still need to unlock using the sense unlock or the ics unlock first.
OP, I'm not really sure how this is supposed to work, and I've never seen this behaviour on any ROM, ICS or Gingerbread. The problem is, how is the phone supposed to know that you want to unlock if there is no lock screen?
Let's say the phone is sleeping and the screen is off. No way to unlock right now. So then I press the power button to wake the phone. That doesn't necessarily mean I want to unlock it. Maybe I want to check the time, or see if I have any notifications. There needs to be a further action to tell the phone I want to unlock, which is the purpose of the lockscreen.
The pattern lock is not designed to BE a lockscreen, it is designed to prevent people unlocking your phone who are not authorised to do so.
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You still need to unlock using the sense unlock or the ics unlock first.
OP, I'm not really sure how this is supposed to work, and I've never seen this behaviour on any ROM, ICS or Gingerbread. The problem is, how is the phone supposed to know that you want to unlock if there is no lock screen?
Let's say the phone is sleeping and the screen is off. No way to unlock right now. So then I press the power button to wake the phone. That doesn't necessarily mean I want to unlock it. Maybe I want to check the time, or see if I have any notifications. There needs to be a further action to tell the phone I want to unlock, which is the purpose of the lockscreen.
The pattern lock is not designed to BE a lockscreen, it is designed to prevent people unlocking your phone who are not authorised to do so.
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I completely disagree. If you press the power button, you want to use your phone. If you want to check the time, do that in the status bar or the fact that it displays on the pattern screen regardless. There is no point in having an action to tell the phone I want to unlock it.
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I completely disagree. If you press the power button, you want to use your phone. If you want to check the time, do that in the status bar or the fact that it displays on the pattern screen regardless. There is no point in having an action to tell the phone I want to unlock it.
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You can disagree, but that's not the way that Android works, and it never has been. It's also not the way iPhone works, for that matter.
The fact that it has been this way "forever", isn't an argument for keeping it this way. What if we had to press the power button 20 times to wake it up? Would you like to keep it that way because it had always been that way? No, you would've said it was useless.
I want to use some sort of security, but I don't because the way it is now it just takes too much time.
If anyone made a lockscreen that way, that UI designer would probably get fired pretty quickly.
The fact is that the trend is going in completely the opposite direction of what you want; the trend as you can see from HTC's lockscreen and also the ICS lockscreen is to display more information on the lockscreen without having to unlock the phone (time, weather, notifications, music etc). That decision is the result of customer feedback and market research.
So the way the phone designers are looking at it is (in the case of using a pattern lock or face lock):
Step 1) Information screen (lock screen)
Step 2) Security screen
I think the closest to get to what you want to do is install something like volume wake + volume unlock, so you can press the key twice in quick succession to wake the phone and skip the first lock screen, and go to your pattern as fast as possible. There is no way that I know of to completely get rid of the lock screen totally.
It takes about 1/2 a second to swipe the ring to get to your pattern lock, so I think "it takes too much time" is a bit of an exaggeration.
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You can disagree, but that's not the way that Android works, and it never has been. It's also not the way iPhone works, for that matter.
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That's not true, the lock screen as he described it is exactly how my nexus one worked in Android 2.1-3. It is far simpler and provides all the information needed to either power off the screen or continue to unlock, in one step.
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That's not true, the lock screen as he described it is exactly how my nexus one worked in Android 2.1-3. It is far simpler and provides all the information needed to either power off the screen or continue to unlock, in one step.
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I have always used a hidden lock screen with gesture unlock. So when I hit my power button, I see some basic information. No indication it is a security or lock screen, until I enter my special gesture to unlock the phone.
I agree with the OP, there needs to be more options. Can't wait for CM 9...
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You can disagree, but that's not the way that Android works, and it never has been. It's also not the way iPhone works, for that matter.
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Android has NOT always been this way, CM7 definitely had this behaviour. Ie no pattern unlock = ICS lock screen. If you have a pattern lock, the ICS screen does not get used.
So + 1 for the op on this, I really can't stand having to unlock twice to use my phone, but I still want the security of the pattern unlock or the number lock or the face unlock.... Pleeeease!
OK, I admit: I was completely wrong. Very sorry.
I tried this on AOSP Gingerbread and ICS, and in both cases, the pattern lock is part of the lockscreen that comes on when you turn on the screen, as OP said.
The problem that you have is that the pattern unlock HTC's pattern unlock app, it is not the normal Android pattern unlock (you can tell by the icon design, fonts etc). So it can't integrate with the stock lockscreen.
The only way to do what you want is to get rid of Sense 100% (not just hiding it), and that means use an AOSP-based ROM such as CM9, AOKP or "JollyRancher".
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OK, I admit: I was completely wrong. Very sorry.
I tried this on AOSP Gingerbread and ICS, and in both cases, the pattern lock is part of the lockscreen that comes on when you turn on the screen, as OP said.
The problem that you have is that the pattern unlock HTC's pattern unlock app, it is not the normal Android pattern unlock (you can tell by the icon design, fonts etc). So it can't integrate with the stock lockscreen.
The only way to do what you want is to get rid of Sense 100% (not just hiding it), and that means use an AOSP-based ROM such as CM9, AOKP or "JollyRancher".
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Thats what I hear! LeeDroid told me pretty much the same.. I normally would have jumped to go AOSP, but Sense isnt so heavy now and I quite like the framework, i.e the copy paste stuff, the browser seems to be more capable with handling frames etc.. I have changed my launcher, so I now get pretty much the best of both worlds!
But damn that forced lock screen!
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The answer is already there at the end of my last post. What you want is not possible on a sense rom, so go install CM9.
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Hi, those of you who use WidgetLocker Lockscreen by TeslaCoil Software app will notice than every time when you unlock your phone from the replacement lock screen, you will see that the phone will flash the default lock screen for a very short period of time (less than a second, but this can be really annoying), but it will generally be able to bring it to the screen where you enter your password or pattern. However, sometime it will fail to bring you to the *"simplified version" of the lockscreen, and will just bring you to the default lock instead.*(I mean "simplified version" because unlike the default lockscreen where you can also have the option to use the Emergency Call Option, they only give you the pattern lock or the password lock. (Those who use this software will know what I mean!)). And here's an idea that comes out of my mind: Can we actually disable the default lockscreen while using the WidgetLocker application?
And one more question: Sometime even WidgetLocker brings me to the right lockscreen and I draw the right pattern, it will just simply say that the pattern is not correct and I need to enter it for several times before it accepts it and sometime after many failed tries, I even need to wait for 30 seconds before trying to entering it again. Can someone also fix this problem? Thanks a lot.
My device Atrix 4G ME860 HKTW version is rooted, so feel free to give suggestions that involve root access
I can't be the only one wanting this, right? I am someone who doesn't use screen lock. I like to just quickly swipe to unlock my screen.
But sometimes at work when you keep your phone on your desk and want to go to the toilet, you want to quickly lock the phone just in case. Or you are charging your phone and need to step away for a minute. You want to quickly lock it up, and quickly unlock it again with a PIN. Android (and Samsung) do not make this easy, because going through the Settings page to enable and disable the screen lock is troublesome. It takes quite a few steps. I just need an app (or even widget) that quickly toggles a phone lock. It doesn't even need to use the Android system's screen lock.
There are plenty of apps that let you lock down individual apps. But I can't find one that locks down the whole phone just like the stock screen lock. I can understand this is not easy to program, but I think it is possible. Because I see apps like this that can keep you in the lockscreen until a certain time limit.
https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.teqtic.lockmeout
If Android Pie had a quick toggle for changing screen lock type (e.g. PIN / swipe), that would be perfect. I can't believe the developers haven't considered this. I mean, they even made a toggle for flashlight...
I don't want to use a custom launcher because I really like Samsung's One UI, and I don't want to install something like Tasker because I don't want to give it excessive permissions or root my phone.
Does anyone know of an app or a method to achieve what I described?